The Last Duel
The twenty-fifth annual Grand Galloping Gala would be boring, as always. Usually, Celestia would be frustrated by the monotony, but this year she hoped to use the celebration as an excuse to distract herself from the upcoming parliamentary meeting. Being surrounded by the ponies she needed to convince had the opposite effect.
Last week, Celestia had asked Luna's advice for turning their opinion to pass the law she had drafted.
"A ban on duels? Art thou mad, sister? The nobility loves nothing more than its traditions. Removing one of the oldest ones is a terrible idea. Truly, thou should know better."
It didn't matter that Celestia had shown the staggering statistics of duel deaths, that most of those ponies were maimed or killed over laughably minor offenses. Luna had stayed firm. Duels were a part of the world. No one would want to change them. How else are ponies supposed to resolve their differences?
She'd mulled over the problem since then, and determined that she wouldn't propose the law until the nobility's opinions had shifted. As much as it pained her to admit it, Luna was right. Not one member of the parliament even entertained the idea that duels could be done away with. How could she convince them that there was another way
Now that all the guests had arrived, she could spend her time probing their opinions. She wandered the room, listening to fragments of conversations.
"The changelings won't stand for it, even with the threat. If the counter-attack..."
"She was absolutely wonderful. Truly a delight. Really, I pity those who didn't get to see..."
"An invitation. Personally addressed to me. From Luna herself, no less."
Celestia turned to the stallion that had spoken. He wore an ascot over his gray hair, silver mane reflecting light in an irritating way.
"Truly? What hast thou done to catch her attention?" a mare asked him.
"I don't know. It arrived only three days ago. I had to suspend all my affairs to make it. After all, how could I ignore the wishes of a princess?"
Celestia cleared her throat. He turned to face her.
"Your highness!" he said. He and the mare bowed.
"What is thine name?" Celestia asked.
"Silver Leaf, your highness."
"Thou claims to have an invitation from Luna?"
"Yes, your highness. I have it with me right here."
His horn glowed, and a piece of paper floated out of his pocket. It was Luna's signature, all right.
"Have thou spoken with our sister before?"
"No, your highness. I was as surprised as anyone to receive this. As I was just telling my friend here—"
A trumpet blared to the royal tune. Celestia had entered many rooms accompanied by this music. Luna must have arrived. Sure enough, the crier declared her presence, and everyone except Celestia bowed at the entryway.
Luna was great at looking like a princess. Instead of a dress, she wore a black tunic with a decorative sword strapped to her belt. Despite the simple outfit, no one could mistake her for a commoner. The way she held her head and glided through the room left no space for doubt.
She walked directly to Celestia.
"Sister," Celestia said, with a curt nod. They hadn't spoken since their argument last week.
"What art thou doing with this cur?" Luna asked. She gestured to Silver Leaf the same way one might point to a pile of vomit.
"Excuse me?" Silver Leaf asked.
"Come, sister. He is not worth our time."
Luna turned and walked away, clearly expecting Celestia to follow. For a moment, she considered staying, to spite her, but they needed to put on a unified act in front of the nobility. She caught up with Luna.
"Thou invited him," Celestia whispered to her sister. "Why the hostility?"
Luna either ignored her or didn't hear.
Celestia kept her irritation at bay. Luna should know better than to insult somepony she personally invited to the gala. The nobles paid attention to what the princesses said. Before the night was over, everyone at the party would know Luna had called him a cur. They loved nothing more than their gossip.
She shot a glance back at him over her shoulder. He busied himself guzzling down a tankard of cider. She closed her eyes for a moment, hoping to find peace. Instead, she heard the voices all around her.
"...trust Luna? Surely, she wouldn't have done this without a good reason. A princess should..."
"He's only a baron. What is he doing here, making her so upset? I would think..."
"His daughter was injured last week. Hasn't the stallion suffered enough? Why would..."
And so on.
Celestia snapped out of it. Luna had led her to the back of the room. The two of them lorded over the party like... well, like princesses.
"We didn't expect thee to make an appearance," said Celestia.
"Thou expected wrong," said Luna
The guests went about their business, only giving the princesses occasional glances. Celestia knew from experience that most of them would want to talk to her for some reason or another. Her current place in the room made her seem unapproachable. To engage a princess in conversation, a pony would need to walk a considerable distance and prostrate themselves in front of everyone. If they said anything wrong, all would hear it. Most ponies would look for a less harrowing opportunity. No one would bother them up here.
If Celestia weren't still annoyed with Luna, she would have thanked her. She needed time to herself, and standing before the nobility, she had no responsibilities other than looking regal. She'd done that for so long she didn't know if she could stop. The two of them standing there all night would almost count as an evening off in her book.
The party went as she expected.
For a while, anyway.
At some point Luna walked into the crowd, so abruptly Celestia didn't notice at first. She didn't bother following her this time.
Luna always moved with purpose, and Celestia guessed what that purpose was well before she approached Silver Leaf.
He was partway through another glass of cider when he looked up and noticed her.
"Princess," he said in a much louder voice than earlier, "to what do I owe the pleasure?"
"Why art thou still here?" asked Luna.
"Whatever do you mean? You invited me, remember?"
He waved the invitation in her face. She grabbed it with her magic and ripped it in half.
"A forgery. Tell us, why would thou do such a thing?"
Celestia frowned. If the invitation were a fake, then it was a good one. Still, Luna would know if she wrote it or not. Perhaps Celestia hadn't examined it close enough.
Silver Leaf looked like he'd been punched in the gut. "I... I didn't know, princess. I received the invitation in the mail, and thought it was genuine. I'm truly sorry."
"Sorry isn't good enough, thou bespawling dalcop. Bow to thine princess, and beg forgiveness."
The room had fallen silent.
Silver Leaf looked like he didn't understand what she had said. He stood there, dumbstruck.
"Art thou deaf as well as dumb?"
That got through to him. He bowed, forehead on the floor.
"It must be comfortable, down in thine natural habitat. Don't worry, we won't judge thou for being a rakefire. There are plenty of other deficiencies for us to point out."
Celestia heard some murmurs from the crowd. The stallion had apologized as ordered, and she would continue to insult him?
"We know that a raggabrash like thou won't understand our words, so we will say it simply, so a child would understand. The key to fixing thine faults is such a daunting task that it will remain a great mystery for generations to come. Perhaps a solution could be found in a million years.
"Of course, that hardly matters, considering that were thou given the opportunity to improve thine wretched soul, thou would turn away, preferring to be a pediculous fobdoodle for the rest of thine days. Of course, that is too generous, as if thou chose to be useless, it would be an improvement from thine current station. Even such a simple thing is beyond thine ability."
Luna was going too far. Celestia approached her to intervene.
"Truly, to become a cumberworld is the best thou can hope for. Though, before thou leaves our presence for good, perhaps thou would like to tell us what really broke thine daughter's leg last week? For we know it wasn't the staircase, as thou proclaimed. So, tell the good ponies who is responsible for the injury."
Celestia stopped moving. A few murmurs came from the room, and Silver Leaf looked up from his bow.
She could see the hatred in his eyes. With that accusation, Luna had ruined his life. The word of a princess is the most respected of witness testimonies. Everypony would consider it the truth. If he didn't object, his best hope for the future was to live in exile for the rest of his days.
There was nothing left for him to do but slink away like an injured dog.
Instead, he stood up.
"How dare you?" he said. "I have done nothing to deserve this. A princess should know better than to slander her own subjects."
"Art thou doubting our word?"
"Of course I doubt it! It's false. I will prove it."
Luna leaned forward. "How?"
"I challenge you to a duel!"
The room was dead silent. No one dared make a noise.
Luna seemed unperturbed. "Very well. Draw thine sword."
"What, now?" he asked.
"But of course. As the challenged party, we have the right to declare the time, place, and weaponry. We will fight thou here and now, with swords."
With the glow of her horn, Luna's sword flew out of its scabbard with an impressive but wholly unnecessary flourish. Its sapphire hilt complimented the dark glow of her magical aura. She floated it in front of her face, point toward the ceiling. The traditional pose to hold while waiting for an opponent.
Silver Leaf looked at the sword, sweat dripping down his brow. He stammered incomprehensibly, nervously glancing around the room until his eyes locked with Celestia's.
"Princess Celestia! Surely, this is highly unusual. Please, put an end to this."
Celestia scanned her mind for a law Luna had violated.
"No seconds have been named," she said. "It must be done before—"
"Our sister will be our second," Luna declared. She glanced to the side of the room, met eyes with one of her night guards. "Thou will be his second."
"Yes, your highness," the guard responded.
"Now we have seconds," said Luna. "Draw thine sword."
Celestia would give Luna a stern talk about her manners in private. Hopefully, this nonsense would be over soon and she could get back to her important business of standing regally.
She cleared her throat.
"Luna has not violated any law. We will intervene if she does."
It was the truth, and everyone knew it. While it was common for challenged parties to set the duel date days or weeks later, that was only tradition. There wasn't anything stopping the challenged from demanding the fight immediately.
Silver Leaf would probably drop the charge and apologize. While ponies would call him a coward and a fool for revoking a challenge right after giving it, he had nothing left to lose. His reputation was already in shambles.
Instead, he drew his own sword, mirroring Luna's pose. It was a simple weapon, pristine with its steel shine.
A few gasps came from the crowd. Clearly Celestia wasn't the only one who thought all his talk was bravado.
Though, now that she gave it a second thought, she understood why he would do this. His life had been ruined by Luna. Maybe, in his mind, dying here would be more honorable than wasting away in exile. And, on the off chance he won the duel, her accusation against him would be considered slander. Legally, he would win the argument, and it could never be used against him again. He was brave, stupid, or drunk to gamble his life on such a slim chance.
It was no secret that Luna's skills with the sword were exceptional. Celestia had never bothered learning the art of the duel. She figured she could depend on her magic in a fight. It was more reliable. Luna usually fought with her magic as well, though she dedicated considerable time to learning swordplay. Celestia had asked her why she bothered, and Luna had said at least one princess must develop this skill. What a strange reason.
"Sister, will thou judge us?" Luna asked.
All eyes turned to Celestia. Of course they would depend on her.
"Very well. Start on our mark."
The crowd moved to the fringes of the room, giving the duelists a wide berth. Luna and Silver Leaf stared at each other, paying their surroundings no notice.
"Three..."
Luna's face was calm, poised. She looked like she was pondering an existential question.
"Two..."
Silver Leaf's chest rose and fell rapidly. He wiped a bead of sweat from his forehead.
"One. Begin."
Luna walked toward Silver Leaf, keeping her eyes on him. Once in striking distance, she slammed her sword down. He intercepted the blade at the last second, clearly struggling under her strength.
She feinted to the right, then struck left. She sliced his side. He cringed back, glancing at his wound. It didn't look deep. He could keep going.
Luna paused, staring him down. She wanted him to make the next move.
He took a deep breath, then took a step towards her. The moment his hoof hit the floor she attacked again, a flurry of strikes he barely kept up with.
Silver Leaf was clearly outmatched. Luna really should have won already. Celestia had seen her sister in combat enough times to know her ability, and this, while impressive, was not her full potential. She must be holding back for some reason.
Why?
The fight continued in this vein. Luna completely dominating Silver Leaf, then letting him recuperate before assaulting him again.
This gave Celestia hope that she wouldn't kill him. The pauses must be there to give him time to reconsider. Duels officially ended either with a death or when one party conceded. Luna, for all her hot-headedness, must be going for a victory by forfeit.
Celestia breathed a sigh of relief. Killing a party guest in front of everyone was generally considered to be impolite.
Occasionally, Silver Leaf would fail to parry a blow. He accumulated a few scratches around his body, but nothing seriously debilitating. That must be on purpose. If Luna wanted to kill him, he would have been dead already.
His breathing was harried, his posture hunched. He took a moment to examine his surroundings. All eyes on him. Judging him. If the other ponies thoughts were anything like Celestia's, they considered him a fool, a monster. Everyone knew Luna would win. Nopony was on his side.
With a sigh, he tossed his sword to the ground.
"This is ridiculous," he said. "I con—"
Luna stabbed him in the throat.
He looked at the sword sticking out of his neck as if he didn't quite believe it was there. He fell to the floor, blood gushing from the wound.
Celestia ran over to him. He was dead by the time she arrived.
Luna picked up her sword and put it back into her scabbard without wiping it. The blood seeped through, leaving steady droplets like a leaky faucet.
She spread her wings, flew above everyone, landed in front of an open window, then paused. She looked over the crowd, posing majestically, as if she had just accomplished a great deed. For a moment it looked like she would say something, but ultimately flew off without a word.
Celestia turned her attention back to the corpse on the floor. She levitated a tablecloth and placed it over his body. Blood seeped through its pristine stitching.
Now, everypony looked at her.
"The gala is over," she declared.
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Celestia barged into Luna's room. She sat in a chair, clearly expecting her.
"What was the meaning of that?" Celestia asked. "Such a display is unbecoming of a princess. Thou should know better."
"Thanks aren't necessary," Luna said.
"Thanks? What would we ever thank thou for?"
Luna gestured to the table. Celestia saw her draft of the law banning duels sat there.
"We looked over the data, and thine arguments. The logic is sound. We lose too many nobles and commoners alike for petty reasons. Does thou know of the baron killed for calling a juniper tree an elm?"
"Of course we do. We compiled those examples."
"They are convincing. Thou should propose the law tomorrow."
"Don't change the subject. Thou just murdered a noble in the middle of a party."
"No. We dueled. Thou of all ponies should know that, while unorthodox, nothing illegal occurred."
Celestia took a deep breath. "We know. That doesn't excuse thine behavior. If thou wants duels outlawed, why would thou do this?"
Luna's expression looked the same as when she fought Silver Leaf. Contemplative.
"These examples aren't enough to convince the nobility," she said. "They needed something more... concrete."
"What art thou saying?"
"Imagine tonight's events from their perspective. At the gala, one of the princesses invited a baron under false pretenses, accused him of a crime, goaded him into a duel, and killed him while he tried to concede. Tell us, what would thou think, in their place?"
That duels are dangerous. That the princesses could kill me any time they wanted, on any whim, well within legal bounds. That my life wasn't as safe under their rule as I thought it was.
"Thou wanted them to question duels on their own, before we proposed it."
Luna nodded.
"Thou should have informed us of this plan, sister. We would have stopped you."
"That's exactly why we kept it to ourselves," said Luna.
"So thou went behind our back to help us."
"Yes."
"It's improper and dishonest. Thou never should have done such a thing."
Luna scoffed. "Please, sister. How long would it have taken thou to convince the parliament to approve thine law? Years, at least. In the meantime, ponies would keep dying, legally. Once we were aware of this, we sought to fix it. This will be the last duel. Thou will propose the law tomorrow, and it will pass. We have demonstrated every flaw with the system tonight. No one can object now."
"Unless they try to reform the law. Make the tradition of waiting law, or some other half-measure. Thou didn't think this through."
"Nonsense. We will make it clear that we will exploit any loophole they try to throw our way. The only option is to outlaw the practice. All it took was one more death."
Celestia paused. "Tell us, that crime thou accused him of, was it true?"
"Of course. We learned the truth through his daughter's dreams. She will take over the barony. Her mind is good with numbers. The region should prosper under her rule."
"And she won't resent thou for killing her father?"
"Whose idea did thou think it was to make him the target? We have earned a loyal subject for life."
It seemed so tidy. Luna had thought of everything. Celestia had her reservations, but she knew that this push would get the law passed. Even if the methods were wrong, she couldn't ignore the opportunity. Still...
"Why does thou play to their fears? All this duplicity... it isn't the sister we grew up with."
Luna gazed out the window. The twinkling stars were clear in the night sky.
"They love thou more than us. Don't try to deny it. They respect the sun, and fear the moon. If we can't change their minds, then we might as well play to their expectations."
"Is that what thou wants?"
Luna waited a moment before responding. "What I want doesn't matter."
Celestia couldn't remember the last time Luna forgot to use the royal we. When they were fillies, maybe. How many centuries ago had it been? She had a hard time keeping track.
"Luna, please understand—"
"There is nothing to understand. We play to our type. Thou are loved, and there is no room for a second. The only noble thing to do is accept our place in the hierarchy."
"There must be another way."
"Really? What is it, then?"
It wasn't Luna's fault that Celestia was more popular. Really, if it bothered her the problem could be easily remedied.
Probably.
"Not killing ponies would be a good place to start."
"We did that for thine benefit. It is what thou wanted."
"Not like this."
"Of course our methods displease you. We are the pariah. We sacrificed our reputation for thou, and have nothing in return. Thou knows of all we do for the good of Equestria?"
"There in no point in martyring thine self."
Luna scoffed. "The only reason thou art able to be self-righteous is because of thine delegation of all the dirty work to us. We swim in the blood so thou can stay clean. A simple acknowledgment of this fact would be appreciated, at least once."
"But it's unnecessary!" said Celestia. "What thou does can only be noble if there are truly no other options. That wasn't the case here. Thou bloodied thine sword much too soon."
Luna sighed. "Sometimes, we wonder how thou can bear to rule. Please, Celestia. We are not unreasonable. Enlighten us as to why we are wrong to do what thou wanted."
Celestia looked at Luna. The princess of the night, the swordmaster, the general, the ruler of Equestria. Her sister. She knew Luna needed her. There must be something she could say to make her feel better. She searched for the right words and couldn't find them.
Instead, she said, "We will search for an answer suitable for a princess."
Luna didn't respond. Celestia left the room without glancing back at her.
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"Princess! Look what I found!" Twilight said after bursting into Celestia's office.
The princess set down her quill and looked at the filly. When she saw what she held in her mouth, she resisted the urge to gasp.
"Where did you find that?" Celestia asked.
"In the vault!"
"I told you not to go in there unaccompanied. There are dangerous magical artifacts that could cause you serious harm."
Twilight looked at the floor. "Sorry."
Celestia took the sword from Twilight, levitating it in the air. The sapphire handle had chipped and dulled with time, and the scabbard looked old and rusted. Apparently, Luna had never wiped off the blood.
"Why did you bring this to me?" she asked.
"It's your sword, right?"
"No."
"Oh. I thought this was the sapphire sword that you used to fight the last duel."
Celestia froze. "The last duel? What are you talking about?"
"You know, how you fought hundreds of ponies to end dueling."
"I... haven't heard this story. Could you tell me?"
"How have you not heard it? You lived it!"
"I want to hear how you'd describe it."
Twilight beamed. She loved telling stories.
"Long ago, ponies dueled each other, and lots of them died. Then, you decided that dueling had to end, so you said that you would be anyone's champion. If they were challenged to a duel, you would fight for them. You fought hundreds of duels, and never lost. So nopony ever wanted to challenge anymore, because they knew they'd fight you, and you'd beat them. So dueling ended. The end."
"That was a nice story," said Celestia. "Where did you hear it?"
"I read it."
"Do you remember what book?"
"Yeah! Do you want it?"
"Fetch it for me later."
Twilight nodded. "So, this is the sword, right? The one you used to fight all those duels?"
"Twilight, I have never fought a duel."
The filly looked crestfallen. "What? Never?"
"Never. The story you heard was a lie."
"But I read it in a book!"
"Not every book tells the truth."
She looked confused by that.
"But then... how did the duels end?"
"I proposed a law, and the parliament passed it."
"Really?"
"Yes. It was a standard meeting, nothing very exciting."
"But... what was the real last duel?"
Celestia looked at the sword again. An ancient relic from a forgotten time.
"I don't remember. It probably wasn't very interesting."
"Aw. I wanted to know!"
Celestia looked down to console Twilight, but stopped when she noticed the rust stains on her lips.
"Why didn't you pick this up with telekinesis?"
"It was too hard to use magic!"
"Let's get you a tetanus shot."
"I don't want a shot!"
"Too bad. You should have thought of that before you put rusted metal in your mouth."
She called for a guard and ordered him to get Twilight to a doctor. He escorted the filly away while she protested the whole time.
When she was alone, Celestia examined the sword again. It seemed wrong for her to be levitating it. Luna's magical aura had looked so beautiful with the sapphire hilt.
It made her nauseous. She tucked the sword away in a drawer and tried to push it out of her mind.
When Nightmare Moon had emerged from within Luna, she had monologued at Celestia. Taunting her, saying that she would never have the courage to kill her own sister. She had been right, in a way. Celestia had found a loophole, and managed to spare Luna and vanquish the Nightmare all at once.
Still, she had lived long enough to know that a loophole couldn't always be found. Sometimes, no matter how distasteful, she would be forced into a decision she didn't want to make. Of course she had made mistakes. Of course she had regrets. Of course she couldn't always do things the right way, the way she wanted. To count all the times she had compromised her integrity...
Thinking about it for too long gave her a headache.
Fortunately, there was an upcoming parliamentary meeting she could focus on. She'd been tinkering with a new law, trying to make it palatable for the representatives, but couldn't figure out how to make everyone happy. Dealing with politicians was brutal.
She glanced at the drawer.
It could be worse.
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Unless Equestrian dreams are vastly more accurate and factual than ours, this seems like Luna took a giant risk on sketchy investigation. It'd be interesting if it turns out the daughter had tricked Luna, and the deception went undetected for some time. Then, when Luna finds out, she snaps and spirals into the Nightmare.
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Going by the way she descried her "selection process", the dream was just what tipped her off and she actually talked to the filly to confirm the series of events were accurate.
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Dreams in Equestria have been shown to be extremely accurate. I assume this is because when Luan visits dreamers they become lucid.
Oof. This is a well done, and tragic window into the past, Decaf. Good work.
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Whose
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they CAN become lucid ^^;;; It's simply that all we see we have Luna interacting with the pony. But they don't become lucid as soon as Luna arrives.
It's funny how 'thou' can throw reading off. Because anything less than the rules I know is distracting, but at the same time I know that there are more rules I don't know (ye, and some conjugations), and to someone who does know them, failure to comply with them would be distracting.
Of course, you aren't wrong, just right in a way that tickles my brain: old Equestrian is just distractingly similar to middle English.
Oh well. The story survives this. Nice job.
Hmm, that epilogue seems kinda jarring. Was it originally at the beginning as a prologue and segued into the memory?
Like:
celly trying new law
Twi brings in chekovs gun
Cue story body and correction a la Princess bride
I enjoyed the luna / celly scene
This was really good! The dialogue was a little rough to work through, but the message wasn't unclear.
The underlying plot was brought out well, though I think some work on the last section could be done. Perhaps a little more actions before/between Twilight and Celestia speaking.
Overall though, very good!
Interesting.
*Thee
*thou art
*of thine delegation of
Time does not heal all wounds.
That was a fun little read! I like that Luna's plan was perfectly thought out along with her entire plan to just accept being the bad cop. The only thing I'm unsure of is what form the characters take. I got about 20% in before I checked the tags just to check and there are none so I suppose they're ponies, but it didn't seem like it. It would be fantastically hard for a pony to put their forehead on the floor, also I can't imagine a standard tunic on a pony although that's just a personal problem. It would also be weird to see something coming out of your neck with a muzzle and with the throat being more horizontal than vertical on ponies. Anyways I'm just nitpicking, good read for sure.
I liked this story, even with the Old "Equestrian" errors. Using it is a bugbear but the effort is appreciated because it sets the mood. It would be nice to have an epilogue where an adult Twilight, before or after ascension, learns the Truth about "The last duel" and the sword that caused her to get a tetanus shot.
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Thanks for telling me about those errors. I have fixed them.
I can't help but think this was inspired by current events. In that many people are resistant to change the law, until a worst-case-scenario makes apparent the deep flaws within the system.
EDIT: Wait, never mind, this was published over a week ago. I guess the author is just very wise.
there is so much wrong with Celestia in this story it's actually kind of sickening. she shows herself to be ignorant and self righteous to a positively ridiculous degree and even denies Luna even the passing glory she deserves in the interim. don't get me wrong this story is great if only because it highlights the problems with celestia and what the world must have been like for Luna pre-banishment.
celestia really is a terrible person in a lot of ways.
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) That said, interpretation is up to the readers. I have, in general, been thinking about politics a lot lately. I don't really want the comments to turn into a political debate, but to whatever extent an MLP fanfiction can say something serious about the world we live in, I don't know if this story would benefit or suffer from looking at it through this lens. Still, I am flattered that anyone could think something along those lines. Getting people thinking is what I hope to do with my stories. Thanks for the comment.
This was mostly inspired by too much crusader kings. Most of the editing i did in the past couple days was trying to get all the thous and thines correct. (And I still made a bunch of errors
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Thanks for the comment. I'm happy to hear you liked the story!
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Yeah, I had enough of that on the site this morning. Setting aside politics, I like how you contrasted the Sisters here.
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Thanks! I'm always happy to hear people found something worthwhile in my stories.
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I would argue the point of self-righteousness and ignorance. Luna's choice here was brutal, and Celestia shows distaste for such brutality. Both have valid points. Celestia didn't consider killing a noble to be necessary to passing her law (Which is true, and is acknowledged in-story), while Luna thought that taking one life would speed up the process and result in a better Equestria (Also true, and also acknowledged). Neither is wrong, but the methods are different.
Luna's Method is, perhaps, more efficient. But the efficient choice isn't necessarily the moral one.
In the end, I think this story poses the following question: Is killing one person, even a criminal, to save others a morally acceptable choice? My answer is that it can be, but not always.
You had my interest at "fobdoodle" You had my admiration with the final scene.
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my issue is that celestia wouldn't even bother to acknowledge Luna's burden when it was brought up and years later didn't even try to correct the official story that was circulating. you can argue lunas brutality all you want but the point that is clear as day is that celestia was selfish in pretty much all things here.
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Luna was in the moon as Nightmare moon during the Twilight segment since I'm pretty sure she is talking to filly Twilight. Twilight didnt even know Luna, (aka Nightmare Moon) was real so why should Celestia say what really happend. You are acting like Celestia is wrong for not telling Twilight that a, at the time, made up folktale ended duels.
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It's funny, I had this idea for this story brewing in my head for about a month before I wrote it, and when you published Rarity Wins A Duel Against Princess Luna I had a mini heart attack, worried that someone else had beaten me the the punch. (That's a great story, by the way.) Fortunately, you took it in a different direction, and I came to the conclusion that the two of them are distinct enough to warrant space on the same shelf.
Thanks for the comment!
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Lol nah. Most of my requests are comedic.
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She tricked someone into foolishly dueling her, and refused him mercy when he tried to concede.
He shouldn't have called duel, he knew the consequences, but she arranged to murder a pony...to prove a point.
I don't see the glory in something this planned out and...well, easy. He was doomed.
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I disagree entirely. It's not ignorance for Celestia to find Luna's method distasteful, or even self righteousness. Luna found a way to legally kill someone and did it in cold blood to make a point; whether or not the pony deserved it, she killed them to accomplish a goal rather than any sort of justice. You can certainly argue Celestia is wrong to believe it was unnecessary, but it's a bit much to say her position makes her detestable somehow.
And I'm not sure what you're talking about with denying glory. She wouldn't view the immediate act as positive at all, nor does Luna, and it would surely be hard for her to not associate the accomplishment with the murder that achieved it. When she spoke in the future to Twilight that was pre-return; she can't tell the truth because she's still keeping Luna a secret. It's not like the truth paints Luna in a very positive light, particularly not to a presumably more pacifist modern Equestria that she's trying to convince her sister isn't a monster.
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you are accounting for the fact that Celestia would not have been able to even approach getting her law through without Luna's actions right? that clues in?
the path Celestia suggested to try and counter Luna's logic is what would happen to her ironically, they'd adjust the laws to dodge Celestia and nothing would be accomplished. the nobility needed to realize such laws could be used against them for her proposal to even have a chance at working.
and my issue was that Celestia essentially lets herself be glorified for ending the dueling either by what she told twilight or by not bothering to make sure the correct historical account was taken down. the legend as twilight read it in the first episode doesn't say Luna didn't exist. that means Celestia didn't need to scrub out all evidence of her existence. the mere fact Celestia would be willing to leave her sister as nothing more then an obscure legend in history proves that she really took nothing away from the nightmare moon incident. there needs to be accountability for Celestia's actions or inactions as well yet it seems like the entirety of the problem falls on Luna.
This gives depth to Luna that was never in the show, and I like that sort of thing. Nice story.
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Yes of course it does. Luna is the one who turned evil and attacked her sister, she is the one who tried to take over the land. She is the one doing the wrong.
Why should Celestia be punished for this? Because she didn't notice/didn't go out of her way to please Luna's childish fantasies for glory and attention? That isn't how law works and I PRAY it never does,
Newsflash Luna, millions of people go their entire life without fame. That doesn't excuse rampant treason.
Also, Celestia DID have consequences. Her consequence was losing her sister for 1000 years.
"Long ago, in a distant land, I Aku, the shapeshifting master of darkness, challenged Princess Luna to a duel... and immediately regretted the decision."
Oh I adored this! Excellently written! I even read most of it in their voices, and it is something I can see happening in Equestria of yesteryear. I also really love the nod to Luna's slow but steady motions towards becoming Nightmare Moon. The ending was a delightfully intimate moment that really solidified the nuance of the conflict.
10/10!
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Thanks for letting me know about these. I have fixed them.
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Thanks for the kind words! I'm happy to see so many people found something worthwhile in this story.
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Happy to help, meine Freund. Always pleased to help with such a quality story.
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now that is childish logic, attempting to simply cut out the concepts of familial and ethical responsibility from the situation. you don't get to remove cause and only observe the effect.
Lunas fall was not slow nor was it secretive, Celestia had a responsibility as co-ruler to at least attempt to raise her co-ruler in the eye's of others to at least attempt to make things even hell it could have easily been done, a few nights of publicly coming out at night and give some praise to the night sky and things would have started evening out relatively easily. Celestia failed to even give personal attention do to her own sister on a sibling level. Hell we have an actual episode that demonstrates that things haven't changed. Celestia expects praise for making breakfast well Lunas fighting dream monsters and helping people solve psychological issues. Celestia likes attention and is quite frankly willing to sacrifice friend and family member to maintain it.
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Ooor maybe Celestia would rather let her sister fade from memory than let her be rememebered for her worse actions? If anything, Celestia would look better if she kept the public well versed on Luna(and Nightmare Moon). Instead, she lets all the fear fade so that when she returns the public has nothing to fear?
It's a foolish and dishonest decision but I don't feel a (entirely) selfish one.
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Just because Celestia made mistakes, does not equal she should be punished.
Luna's fall was all on her own shoulders and only she can be blamed for the actions she took.
You don't look at a murderer and go "How can we punish his siblings for this?" do you?
Ok. this is just all around bullshit and you know this.
Either
a) you never seen the actual show, in which case your opinion is 100 % invalid.
b) read too many fanfics and become deluded, in which case your opinion is 100 % invalid.
c) is just a Celestia-hater, in which case your opinion is 100 % invalid.
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you do look at a murder and go 'what lead to that?' quite literally we devote an entire section of society and the legal system to this venture. the main fact that you put the entire thing on Luna is a lack of reasoning.
lets try your method then:
A) I referenced the actual show and a legitimate instance in an episode which calls into question if you've seen it making your opinion 100% invalid.
B) you live in a magical fairy land where good and evil are clearly drawn out and there is not intersection of fault amongst those involved making your opinion 100% invalid.
C) just a Luna hater making your opinion 100% invalid.
your response is childish at best this method of reasoning would assure nothing was ever accomplished in human history. if your not going to attempt actual reason don't respond to a comment.
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your shitty example was 'Celestia expects praise for making breakfast well Lunas fighting dream monsters and helping people solve psychological issues.'
First off, she didn't expect praise, so you are objectively wrong already. She just wanted Luna to enjoy the breakfast, rather than not eat it at all. At most, she wanted a thank you, which is not really out of the ordinary, nor too much to ask for when someone makes you a large breakfast (Or pre-sleep snack) every day.
Secondly, she had NO idea how difficult it was, just like how Luna had no idea how difficult Celestia's job is. So no, you didn't reference the show. You took something out of context and altered it to fit your wrong world-view.
Guess what, that is the real world. When someone is an adult, like Luna, they are 100 % responsible for their own actions and no amount of 'MUH HURT FEELINGS!' or 'WAAH! CHILDHOOD PROBLEMS!' will stop punishment from striking you down hard and swiftly. At most, it can get your sentence reduced, which is why Luna was only banished and not completely destroyed by the elements of harmony like Sombra was.
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no but in a real world the why matters. people are brought into account for the role they played in others actions just as much as the person who committed the action. you obviously haven't heard the term criminal negligence and other such related terms. rather you like it or not Celestia holds fault for nightmare moon as well something the elements of harmony realized hence why Celestia lost her connection to them when she banished Luna.
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And neither have you.
Celestia is LITERALLY, by definition and law, not guilty of any criminal negligence. She didn't react recklessly, nor did she create the risk or cause bodily injury. The only one who got hit in their fight was Celestia and Luna was the one causing the risk.
And unless you are implying no one BUT Luna is a reasonable being in Equestria, then the second doesn't fit either, as no one really stood up for Luna. No one in the entire land.
Is literally every single pony guilty of 'criminal negligence'?
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Dude you gotta stop reading those Celestia OOC stories.
Luna is love. Luna is life.
Embed SupaHotFire clip here.
I admire your dedication to adhering to the canon depiction of Celestia
This and everything by Luna before it is a masterpiece of characterization and plot. You definitely deserve your place at the top of the boxy boy for this.
Ah, I love the theme of historical events getting distorted to fit the perceptions of the present, and Twilight’s particular vulnerability to it. It is done great here.
And a perfect ending.
This is a really well-crafted story. I wish I had more words, but all I can do is just blather on about how I loved your characterization of Luna here, and your use of a good political complot that ties into her character and motivations. It’s something I hope I will be able to do as well in my future work.
Really looking forward to the rest of your cartoon pony fanfiction career!
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The thing about spelling an grammar police is that they don't acknowledge that a speaker may not always speak perfectly all the time.
It is as if they are saying that no-one ever uses wrong words, ever.
The same applies to spelling mistakes.
I've stopped caring about 'mistakes' as they show that characters are not perfect.
*Duel of The Fates intensifies*
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It's always nice to see long comments like this. It's interesting to know what parts stick with people. I'm definitely gonna be publishing some more stories soon, so you can look forward to that.
Thank you very much!