For his hard work to the Crown, the Royal Engineer of Equestria has been honored with a retinue of VIP bodyguards who protect him everywhere he goes. Their ordinary, everyday adventures together wind up being anything but ordinary.
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Sorry if Its been asked but is the greentext still getting updated ?
Got fully up to date yesterday and while I'm glad for the readers on this site only as there's still a fair bit of content to cover and a lot of hype moments to come.
Its still seems like we're barely near the end and Its gonna be soul destroying if its not getting finished.
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It's still updating, but TheManFromAnotherTime's life has gotten considerably busier since he began writing, and there are stretches where updates are a little slow in coming.
Armored scouts? You sure that's not the motto of the Lupins Highwaymare Guild?
I loved this chapter. Very fine professional talk. Indeed heavy armor makes sence after knowing purpose and have the biggest variations possible.
After that done they need to talk weapons.
Don't they usually put beryllium in steel for hardness ?
I take it "Brunnie" is short for Brunhilde? Real original.
Is everything plate in that shop? Surely chain and ringmail are known, even if steel isn't. A hauberk over a doublet would be best for the torso. Especially if they know of any magically-conductive alloys that would allow for magical faraday shielding.
Anon you dumb idiot. Steel is easy!
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As long as you don’t care about the grade steel can be made by passing oxygen through semi molten pig iron. The process was evidently discovered by an eccentric aristocrat who spent much of his time experimenting with chemistry and metallurgy.
I don't know much about it but I hope none of those metals are toxic to his skin, all those examples are for individuals with fur, or scales in case of dragons, but what about bare skin? Because I know that there are certain metals that you need to be careful when in direct contact, or if they rust because those could poison the user. And I think bronze is one.
That is why knights and soldiers used like 3 layers, one normal cloth, another made of leather and one final one that has a mini chains under the cloth, all before the armor. All this for security and resistance but also to prevent infections and metal poisoning like tetanus.
And we are not even factoring the chemistry of Equestria, for all we know bronze there could had a different composition although that one is more of a stretch. Bottom line, dealing with armor is more than just put metal on top of the body
Poledouris Anvil of Crom is mandatory background reading music for next few chapters. Either the original or the Prometheus edition recording with more prominent anvil-like metal percussion. Or the live concert, which kind of overdid it with said anvils (more the lousy recording's fault than the musicians).
And then the Wheel of Pain when Anon is jogging in his new duds to break them in. (Actually, one of my top IRL workout tracks.) I actively dislike the Prometheus version, since they cut out the crucial string screeching 'rusty chains' bit.
I never understood why the lyrics during the villain banquet/orgy scene invoked Hephaestus. Surely he and Crom would be buds, along with Hachiman and the Morrighan. Were Hephaestus and Crom rivals in the original Howard stories or something?
Of course, the lyrics in that scene being in Latin, for the distant "Hyborean age" doesn't make any sense in the first place.
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Bronze, an alloy of copper and tin, isn't a problem unless the alloy has any sort of notable lead or arsenic content, in which case you won't want to eat with it, but barring copper allergies, there shouldn't be a problem.
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Bronzehorn did state that Anonymous would require an arming doublet to wear under his armour to prevent chafing and overheating. I assume similar precautions would be needed for the rest of the body, which even other species might use.
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A perfect, good to know.
Wait a goddamn minute, you're telling us that Equestria hasn't even figured out steel? And somehow they managed to build Manehatan with thier own version of Statue of Liberty, pray tell how?? and magic isn't an answer.
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Creative Liberties with Alternate Universes.
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Fair enough, care to elaborate more on that? like is it more medieval, is Manehattan even a thing?
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Quite true.
The prospect that a soft protective layer, like gambeson, was not made due to the layer of fur on ponies is actually an interesting thought. However, Bronzehorn did mention some protective clothing to prevent overheating and chafing, so soft layers underneath armor do seem to exist in this world.
On another note, it is nice to see that the author knows what they are talking about. From the names of the armor parts to the practicality of said armor, I find myself enjoying the world being built more every chapter.
I'd love to see what he could do with aluminum and titanium.
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Hello again, EdBoii
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Pro tip: don't ever go inside any of those buildings.
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agreed and even if you dont know the ratios for the fannier alloys most catalogs order steel by if is mild carbon 1% or less or high carbon 1%-2% carbon by weight.
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I'd love to see the look on any of their faces if Anon rocks up to the fight in a set of ebony plate armor. Love the styling of the Skyrim set. Even if it was just steel blued or darkened it'd look damn imposing to any Equestrians.
I once got curious about steel and looked up some of the variations. And my God, it was kind of stunning to see how many varieties there are. You'd think it would be one of those things where there's a million possibility different types, but only a handful ever really get made or are useful. But no, not even that. There's a mountain of different variants of steel, and they're all used for slightly different things. It does give one a bit more appreciation for materials engineering.
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We meet again, Hotpants!
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Even within the same hunk of steel, variations can be immense. A katana has several distinct layers of hardness, achieved by folding different ways, and spreading patterns of clay on so very precise zones are heated slower or cool faster than adjacent areas.
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Not to start any katana vs. European sword debates, so refrain from any "acktually, mythbusters proved..." junk. Eastern steel aside, It's my personal opinion that a good langseax is superior to anything those silly English knnnniggits every carried.
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Seems like socially it’s around the high Middle Ages but some parts of Equestria society are early medieval or even classical/ancient era for us.
Wait, Equestria doesn’t have steel?
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Society is quasi-Victorian, while technology is a hybrid of Victorian and Bronze/Iron Age; Magic has changed the investments in skilled trades compared to human history.
Well that kicks the estimated technological period back a ways doesn't it? If they've never heard of steel at all, and Bronzehorn would know if anyone would, then anonymous has far more work ahead of him.
"znakomaja" - "acquaintance" yeesh rough In all shapes and fronts, but understandable as Artemia not a native speaker. At least use "tovarish" - "comrade".
Ah so steel finally gets mentioned. Curious to see how that will interact in this iteration.
Didn’t the Vikings make a primitive steel by heating their swords over the bones of animals they killed?
Please tell me he's going to look like a Bretonnian Knight.
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I prefer the European springsteel cruciform sword, though there is still a lot of variation within those parameters.
Steel discovery and production has been quite sporadic throughout human history and across the globe, the Haya people of Africa, the mysterious Indian producers of Damascus steel, the tamahagane of Japan, European spring-steel, rare relics like the 600 B.C. Vered Jericho sword and oddly enough steel jewelry. About as long as people have had fire hot enough to make iron workable we've been making steel, accidentally or otherwise.
"znakómaja"
Okay, wut?
Russian guy barging in here, this translates literally as "someone I know". And contextually makes wee bit little sense.
Is the intended context a word like "bud/pal", a less formal way of saying "friend", with the undertone of "I don't really know you but we are on friendly terms"?
Because then it's better be 'podruga' (feminine noun of 'friend'), since it"s rather neutral in context.
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As the Royal Engineer mentioned, it was mostly after bronze became too rare/expensive to make on Earth that humans eventually adopted iron and later transitioned to Steel as they discovered how to create it reliably in large quantities. Equestria's landscape might simply have an overabundance of copper and other materials used to produce high-quality bronze, meaning its inhabitants never felt the need to abandon their favourite material for a new one.
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Joking aside, your question did make me wonder and I had to go look for answers to the possibilities of such tall buildings without the use of steel.
From the show, I mostly remember Manehattan looking two different ways. One would be mostly brick roads and buildings resembling a modern 19th-century city (which would fit how the Military Structure of Equestria seem to be), and the other one would be like a more modern Manehattan, with skyscrapers and similar structures.
While ponies in the story might not have steel to rely on for building and design, I think with the existing need, a tiny bit of magic at their disposition to supplement their lack of industrial manufacture, and some ingenuity they could be able to use the resources they have (Brick, Concrete and Bronze alloys) to be able to build Manehattan as seen on the show.
Makes sence in context. You need higher temperatures for iron/steel than you would need for bronze or other copper alloys. It was discovered by humans in the bronze age but was only more used after better furnaces were build and securing more sources for bronze became more difficult.
If equestria has easy access to copper and tin they would not need iron so much als humans in for example europe.
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I'll wait for TheManFromAnotherTIme's input on intentions here; I assumed that the original text would be fine, but I guess not!
... now, why do I suspect that the wife knows some form of Steel?
Or maybe some kind of Titanium alloy?
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Their geology definitely seems to be different, what with the plethora of shallow surface gemstones.
I’m actually more curious how they managed to get an operational railway system assembled without steel. While I’m no expert by a long shot, I’m less than wholly convinced (given that bronze swords could apparently get bent out of shape just in battle, although they supposedly also weren’t hard to straighten back out) that bronze rails could actually stand up to those kinds of loads and stresses for long...and also, just how plentiful are this Equestria’s supplies of copper and tin, anyway? On Earth and in particular in the crust (so near the surface where we can actually get at them), those two are actually pretty scarce -- for some quick and dirty numbers, Wikipedia has iron being several hundred times as abundant as copper (exact numbers varying with the cited source) and tin is even more outclassed -- and not necessarily found closely together for easy convenient bronze-making, either, which makes one big reason to switch from bronze to iron and steel once we’d unlocked that achievement the simple economic one.
When you can enchant armor to higher protective tolerances, base material likely becomes less a drive.
Still, the Riddles of Steel are a mark of progress into metallurgical mastery. Even bog iron can be a huge step forward.
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And a higher concentration of the copper-tin-silver ores, my guess. Possibly gold and even platinum as well, given pre-Hearthswarming Princess Platinum.
Come to think, Equestrian geology models well for a high-mana planet between that and the high amount of large, distinct crystalline content. Slow cooling and a lack of large amounts of "cold" iron to bollix things.
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Likely not, Bronze is soft enough that bronze chainmaille was not unheard of, but rare, and I'm not sure if ringmail was a thing in that era.
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No, just no. Neither Iron, Steel, Bronze or Brass are toxic to humans. You need to study chemistry some more. This is NOT the reason why men-at-arms and knights wore thick layers of PADDING between them and their armor. Yes, improperly cared for armor can rust and tarnish, but that is more detrimental to the armor than the wearer. The only reason why padding is necessary when wearing armor is to reduce bruising from impact. I personally have fought in chainmaille with only one layer of linen - Do not try this at home - it is completely possible to do.
Also, Tetanus isn't poisoning, dude.
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DO NOT use Al or Ti as combat armor. Aluminum is too brittle to use as armor, the amount (in thickness) is too great to make up for the weight savings. Titanium does not resonate when struck and instead transfers kinetic energy linearly, meaning getting hit in armor only stops penetration, and does nothing to protect against the actual impact of being hit.
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I see somebody is familiar with armour. Tbh yes, maille WOULD be an better option, best balance of protection/Weight/Flexibility compared to the plate being offered.
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They used multilayers... for protection.
Metal armour does NOT stop blunt-force trauma- so you have padded armour as the base layer.
Maille, is amazing to prevent slashing attacks. But not that effective against thrusts.
Plate, is good at dealing with slashing and most thrusts, but it's joints are vulnerable and the armpits are often fully exposed.
As such, you wear idealy at least the padding and the other two. At minium, you want the padded armour and at least one of the metal armours.
It was recorded by the local Islamic states during the First Crusade how the "Franks" (who did not have plate) were covered in arrows but were unharmed (because the maille took the blunt, and any that penitrated failed to perice the padded armour or failed to cause any major injury).
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Less that it was too rare (Tin was in plentiful supply within Europe till the late Victorian era), more just iron was just eveywhere (relativity). Once people discovered ways to produce Iron, it was simply easier & cheaper than having to import Tin. Bar two mines, all tin came from well outside the region of the Bronze Age civilisations.
It also helped that Iron was a better metal for tools & war-gear due to durability and hardness (not to be confused with rigidity).
TheManFromAnotherTime, I didn't realize this story would include PORN in it. Seriously, after suffering through so many stories where the author doesn't know dick about armor, this is almost orgasmic. Here, take this, it's dangerous to go alone.
Oh Brunnie, I'm hoooommmeee
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Couldn't resist, thanks for the update!
calling it now, she a dragon.
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Padded armor is amazing for how unappreciated it is. Some experimental archaeolgy led by Professor Gregory Aldrete* of the University of Wisconsin Green Bay created a Roman Linothorax using homegrown, hand gathered, hand prepared materials and constructed using historical methods (or the best educated guesses thereof). The results are quite interesting.
*Edit: started with a student of his, Scott Bartell