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Aryanne moves to Ponyville, things go as expected.

Content Warning: Nazi pone, stupid


Should Fimfiction add an Aryanne character tag, or ban any content featuring her? Can't it be both?

Please be as polite as possible if you're going to discuss things in the comments.

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darf #1 · Jul 2nd, 2020 · · 1 ·

we're very sorry for writing and posting this and will probably regret it when we wake up

thank you <#

Hah! You got the upper hand on TittySparkles xD

oh noez

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I guess we'll see if the other Great Horse Repository caves.

Now that was something

But what happened to the pony who was standing on top of a pile of mud? Did they slip and fall? Are they still to this day trapped on top of the slippery pile crying plaintively for help never certain what to do for fear of falling?

You absolute fucking Mad Lad.

Bless.

Pretty much an accurate depiction of today's political society.

I don't believe that ethnically diverse people are inferior, but i also don't believe that all Nazis are 100% evil. There will always be people that don't get along with eachother it's part of what makes us human.

But when the good, and the just, and the politically correct stand on their soap boxes and force thier opinions and world views down the throats of an otherwise unconcerned majority, they become much like the very nazis they have condemned for having different beliefs.

And before you label me a Nazi sympathizer, I don't believe genocide of any kind is acceptable, (I personally rather enjoy diverse and interesting foreign cultures) that having been said if we were to erase Nazism from history or the present day just for the sake of political correctness would we realy be any better than the Nazis we set out to destroy?

Pause #9 · Jul 2nd, 2020 · · 12 ·

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Too late. You have an opinion that extends past Nazi bad.

That's no longer allowed in today's society.

I kek'ed hard in some places. Perfect recap of the current situation.

I mean rhubarb.

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Im not realy sure I was ever realy allowed in today society in the first place.

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Nobody knows. One needs a stock ticker that constantly feeds information about the ever changing hierarchical nature of wokeness.

I think there should be a tag for her. She is cute.

For a filly whose house was burned down and who cannot even go to school without the whole town erupting over how this will influence the children and censorship principles, she's really doing her best studying history and laughing at cartoons.

Rhubarb! Rhubarb rhubarb?

RHUBARB!!

Just as a reminder:
Aryanne is an idiot in and of herself.
She's an Earth pony who looks down on Earth ponies because Aryanne thinks she's a Unicorn, hence way she calls them "Mud Trackers" and "Flying Diseases" Again, this because she's an idiot; she has no idea what notsees are, but she spouts their propaganda because it's her cutie mark.

I wish I could say I did Nazi this coming. :facehoof:

Bojack H #19 · Jul 2nd, 2020 · · 10 ·

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Not that I'm attacking your opinion but Nazis literally revoked the personhood from an entire ethnicity. There's no political discourse to be had with a group that believes certain groups of people aren't people. There is no compromise that works, everybody is either fully a person or you allow one group to arbitrarily impose their will on others

Georg #20 · Jul 2nd, 2020 · · 1 ·

10313171 Ouch.
10313103 Shows that Bonbon is an actress. (during crowd scenes, the extras quietly say "Rhubarb rhubarb" to simulate conversation)
10312959 Accurate, complete to the point where politicians try to occupy both sides of a controversial topic.

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I would rephrase one bit.

but i also don't believe that all Nazis are 100% evil.

I would say not all Germans were Nazis, Nazis' were the ones who believed the propaganda and participated in the actions against the victims of the holocaust. Like how the SS were the ones who primarily ran the concentration camp. Not every soldier those ideals, look at the Battle of Itter Castle.

Terego #23 · Jul 2nd, 2020 · · 26 ·

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"I don't believe all Nazis are evil"

And people wonder why there are problems in the MLP community.

Oooh, boy.... You know things have gotten bad when people start writing stuff on FIMFiction about it.

But Pinkie Pie, nopony could bake 6 million cakes in 5 years!

Devy #26 · Jul 2nd, 2020 · · 4 ·

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Surely you reckon that the "100%" qualifier you dropped in your quotation is rather important for the meaning of the whole phrase. Nazism, in its ramifications if not in its core tenets, is what you may call evil, but an evil set of believes does not revoke all the good qualities of a person, or disable them from having otherwise productive or appreciable conversations, especially conversations that help to have a more open and beneficial set of viewpoints. Purposefully othering people for something they didn't say is one of the easiest ways to stoke the flames of useless arguing and you are leaving nothing that qualifies as a helpful statement to explain what stance you are actually disagreeing with, unlike FaNarchy right before you.

10312959 You don't believe genocide or non-personhood of other human beings is acceptable.

But you do believe it's acceptable to believe such things are good (i. e. to be a Nazi/fascist).

Do you even see the problem here?

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I'm not advocating for banning any content. However, I wanted to respond to something I find very distressing.

I also don't believe that all Nazis are 100% evil.

I don't believe all people who murder infants because they think it's fun are necessarily "100%" evil, but they're evil enough that I absolutely do not want to associate with them. The same is true for people who support an ideology of racism and genocide. I want nothing to do with those people.

But when the good, and the just, and the politically correct stand on their soap boxes and force thier opinions and world views down the throats of an otherwise unconcerned majority, they become much like the very nazis they have condemned for having different beliefs.

I understand what you're trying to say, but the Nazis tortured and butchered eleven million people, including infants and children. Trying to paint that as equivalent to people discussing or pushing for social changes you disagree with is absolutely appalling. I think you're detached from the reality of how horrifying an ideology this is, and you're not acknowledging how spreading those ideologies obviously makes minority groups feel unwelcome in a community.

...if we were to erase Nazism from history...

Wow, what a straw pony. Zero people are trying to do this. Taking down statues of Hitler is not "erasing Nazism from history", but just the opposite: they're not allowing history to be whitewashed and recast villains as heroes. The need to keep Nazism in history is why we have Holocaust museums and textbooks that showcase those things (like statues and photographs) in context. People who oppose Nazism (like Jewish people, for one) want museums and textbooks to have information on Nazism. They vigorously oppose removing that information from school curricula. What you're implying here is totally false.

You're being a Nazi apologist when you say they're not "100% evil" and call people opposing Nazis Nazis as though the ideology is on-par with its antithesis. This is vile behavior, and though I may not support your removal personally, I can fully understand why many people in the community want people like you to leave.

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now that's a s p i c y m e a t b a l l

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They have made peace with the mud, and now live in harmony with it. The Grass however is not so amicable about it.

The thing that annoys me most about this story is this: in show canon, we see that cutie marks are never imposed on a pony. Instead they reflect an integral part of the pony's personality- the core aspect, the thing the pony cares about most.

There is simply no way a pony could ever get a swastika cute mark innocently. This pony would not have that mark unless she not only believed in fascism, but made it the single most important aspect of her existence.

Nazi symbols do not happen innocently- not in pony life any more than in real life.

who cares about nazis? there free game to mock

Isseus #33 · Jul 2nd, 2020 · · 7 ·

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I understand what you're trying to say, but the Nazis tortured and butchered eleven million people, including infants and children. Trying to paint that as equivalent to people discussing or pushing for social changes you disagree with is absolutely appalling. I think you're detached from the reality of how horrifying an ideology this is, and you're not acknowledging how spreading those ideologies obviously makes minority groups feel unwelcome in a community.

And that is why calling someone a Nazi because they don't conform to your opinion of liberal utopia is so disgusting.

Just because someone doesn't think everyone should be allowed to cross into your country with no supervision ARE NAZIS.
Everyone who thinks that there might be some problems with BLM ideology, despite them having a very important message, then you ARE A NAZI.
Everyone who thinks that because every significant influenza epidemic and/or pandemic in the last three decades has started in China, there might be something that could be done about it ARE NAZIS.

I know history. I live in a country that was on the side of the Nazis in WW2. I know what they did. I'm disgusted by anyone calling anyone else a Nazi in this day and age for disagreeing with them on anything political. And that's why I immediately stop listening to anyone who uses the Nazi card.

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Wait... is this true? Like, is that an actual established thing about her character? If so, that just makes all of this nontroversy seem even more silly.

Isseus #35 · Jul 2nd, 2020 · · 2 ·

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Oh, how dare you think there are more than two sides to an argument? How DARE you think that if someone isn't 100% agreeing with you, they are 100% against you in everything? Us or them is the only option. No compromise, no talking things over, no trying to understand the other side.

That would only lead us to a non-partisan world where people actually tried to accept each other instead of "tolerating" and live together instead of shouting on opposite mountain tops on how wrong the others are instead of living in the valley between. And understanding that sometimes, some cultures just don't mix and should thus not be pushed together forcefully if neither side wants to integrate. Understanding and peaceful coexistence is possible, but hating is so much easier.

We don't want that! We want more drama! More trolling! More memes and arguments and triggers! :facehoof:

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The difference between Nazis and the people that they are against is quite simple.

One of them wants the other dead, enslaved, and/or beneath them. To be a Nazi is to believe in that definition of superiority. THat is part and parcel of the "So you Want to Be A Nazi" starterkit. It is intrinsically tied to it.

They are not excellent BBQers who just so happen to think that. They ARE that first and foremost in their thoughts and actions.

See, there's this thing called compromise. It's great. People disagree on something, they find a middle ground and agree to have it at that.

But there are somethings that are uncompromiseable.

These things are a little something call life, human rights, and existence.

There's this great quote on Twitter that's been going around.

The unjust man tells the just man to meet him in the middle.
The just man steps forward and the unjust man takes a step back.
Once more, he says, "Meet me in the middle."

I don't doubt that Nazis can be good people. They can be good and kind and just as lovely as the rest of us. It's just that to a very specific set of us they decide that they want them dead.

One side wants to exist and have the same rights. One side wants them dead.

You're trying to equate both sides as if they're similar.

AccidentallyOffensive, I @ed you because I wanted to explain why this stance is problematic. You can let free speech and thoughts happen, but to a point. And that point has to be telling people that some things are unacceptable.

There are liberals who take it too far. There are feminists who go completely overboard and call for castration and the death of all men. And there are people who try to force thinkboxes. But just because of the vocal minority does not mean the movement as a whole is irrelevant.

Kris, I @ed you because I just wanted to say hi and also that i agreed with you. Also I noticed that your comment got a lot of downvotes and I think it's because people didn't understand your point.

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Last time I checked the history books we didn't "let" the Nazis do a Damn thing, we stoped em. but when you start hunting down a people for thier beliefs no matter how flawed it makes you no better then them.
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Thank you that's exactly what I was trying to convey.
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Read that back to me and show me where I said good
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Your not wrong, but as FaNarchy pointed out my comment was poorly worded, i dont believe all soldiers that marched under the banner of nazi germany were evil, or nazis
So yeah all Nazis were are evil
Do people realy want me to leave? My comment was wrong and Im sorry. I can leave if you want but I'd rather stick around and read about ponies.

10313821 First: don't use "were" when talking about Nazis. There are houses in the county seat where I buy groceries with Nazi flags flying over the front porch today. They have not gone away.

Second: I said that you believe it is ACCEPTABLE for someone else to believe that racial superiority, de-humanization, ethnic cleansing, purity culture and genocide are good. Yet you also say all these things, in and of themselves, are not acceptable.

The problem is this: if you accept that people can hold these views and still be accepted in society, then YOU HAVE ALSO ACCEPTED THOSE VIEWS into the society. You have said, "This is a legitimate position, and we should consider adopting it."

If you actually believe that Nazi views and symbols are unacceptable, that means you CANNOT accept those who spread them. And if you accept those that spread Nazi teachings, you've basically made peace with those teachings; even if you don't agree, you're not going to fight them.

The white supremacists know this, which is why they are always the loudest to cry out for tolerance and free speech... for themselves. And then, once they've taken a space over, they make it utter hell for everyone else, until they have that space all to themselves, because they're not interested in playing fair, or having a polite discussion, or being respectful, except where it gives them a lever.

And from where I sit, several people here are giving them a mile-long prybar.

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Well spoke, Trick. You speak for me as well, measuredly and specifically. :duck:

For all the uneducated, Nazi Germany only stole the Swastika symbol. It had been in use for far longer than Germany had even been a thing.

Don't believe me? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swastika.

Pause #41 · Jul 3rd, 2020 · · 4 ·

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Second: I said that you believe it is ACCEPTABLE for someone else to believe that racial superiority, de-humanization, ethnic cleansing, purity culture and genocide are good. Yet you also say all these things, in and of themselves, are not acceptable.

He didn't say Nazis (the ideology, not the people ) are good.

He said he doesn't believe they (the people) are 100% evil. That's two different things.

This either/or stuff has got to stop.

The problem is this: if you accept that people can hold these views and still be accepted in society, then YOU HAVE ALSO ACCEPTED THOSE VIEWS into the society. You have said, "This is a legitimate position, and we should consider adopting it."

No it doesn't and you're stretching. I can acknowledge that people hold the terrible views of Nazi ism. That doesn't mean I accept those views. Acknowledgement and acceptances are two different things. But I can reluctantly accept a person into society if they positively contribute to society as long as they keep those shitty views to themselves/don't do harm.

Between a person who holds bigoted ideals but somehow manages to do good work and keep they views mostly to themselves and an asshole on twitter that doxxes children and young teenagers because they made an edgy joke and sends the faceless hordes of the internet against them. I would rather take the bigot.

If you actually believe that Nazi views and symbols are unacceptable, that means you CANNOT accept those who spread them. And if you accept those that spread Nazi teachings, you've basically made peace with those teachings; even if you don't agree, you're not going to fight them.

By this logic does that mean I can no longer accept violent video games, particularly ones that primarily feature guns?

But seriously, are we going to pretend that people on the internet haven't been memeing and shitposting offensive edgy humor for decades now? Oh, anyone that does it MUST be trying to spread Nazi teachings. Really?

The white supremacists know this, which is why they are always the loudest to cry out for tolerance and free speech... for themselves. And then, once they've taken a space over, they make it utter hell for everyone else, until they have that space all to themselves, because they're not interested in playing fair, or having a polite discussion, or being respectful, except where it gives them a lever.

Wow, the parallel between the white suprmacists and the "woke" crowds are scary.

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But seriously, are we going to pretend that people on the internet haven't been memeing and shitposting offensive edgy humor for decades now? Oh, anyone that does it MUST be trying to spread Nazi teachings. Really?

White supremacists have been doing exactly that, yes.

The kind of shitposts you're talking about are trial balloons- feeling out how far they can go in expressing their views openly, recruiting like-minded people, then moving on to worse material using "It's only a joke!" as a shield.

Even those who don't actually believe in white supremacy, by offering up those Nazi-friendly jokes, provide cover and protection for those who do.

And, in the process, they make it clear to those who the supremacists target that they are not welcome in that community- that the community has room for Nazis, but not for them.

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I didn't say any of those things...at least I don't think I did?
I was just trying to say if we hunt down all the Nazis and persecute them for their beliefs (No mater how wrong they are) it kinda makes us nazis

Pause #44 · Jul 3rd, 2020 · · 2 ·

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So all memers and shitposters who use that offensive imagery are white supremacists.

No. Just no.

10313950 No, it really doesn't.

There is a marked difference between calling for the criminalization, depersonization and elimination of people of color, LGBT people, non-Christians, and foreigners as a matter of public policy on one side, and throwing people who advocate those policies out of otherwise inclusive groups on the other. There really is no comparison.

10313953 They either are white supremacists, or they're creating a space where white supremacists can thrive, expand and organize.

And in any case, it doesn't speak well of any person when they think the fear and anger of threatened minority groups is enjoyable.

Pause #47 · Jul 3rd, 2020 · · 3 ·

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No. They are not and you're making a massive exaggeration.

Derpibooru had people memeing and shitposting this stuff for nearly a decade and the amount of white supremacist's were non-existent. I guarantee you 99% of the people minimum were doing for the lulz.

Actual white supremacists will be in their own little dark clubs on the internet, or Facebook, but something about this new progressive wave seems to love seeing enemies and bigots practically everywhere.

And in any case, it doesn't speak well of any person when they think the fear and anger of threatened minority groups is enjoyable.

Out of everything, this is actually the first offensive thing I've seen here. If you don't like offensive, edgy humor. That's you and you do you. But get off your high horse and shit talking people because they like humorous content you don't.

But, hey I guess it doesn't speak well of me and many other people who willing picked the Terrorist side when playing a game like Counter-Strike or the million of people who play games like Grand Theft Auto.

FFS. That actually made me mad.

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You have very clearly defined Nazism (all though I must admit that I didn't understand the BBQ part)
I believe my original comment was poorly conceived, and poorly worded. I never meant to justify nazism.
I just thought persecuting them for thier beliefs was wrong, if they were to once more act on those beliefs and harm the innocent then i believe they need to be stopped.
Thank you for not twisting my poorly worded comment and using it as a weapon against me.

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The problem is this: if you accept that people can hold these views and still be accepted in society, then YOU HAVE ALSO ACCEPTED THOSE VIEWS into the society. You have said, "This is a legitimate position, and we should consider adopting it."

This particular piece of text right here sounds a bit dangerous to me, and actually sounds very similar to what the Nazis themselves thought about the Jews. It's not nearly on the same level, but it "rhymes" enough that I think that this thought process might be a step in the wrong direction, or at least a bad way of looking at the situation.

10313987 Not so. Telling Nazis to pound sand is a response to a belief and an action- a thing the Nazi chose to do, and a thing the Nazi could stop doing at any time. The Jews were persecuted and maligned for a condition of birth, and nothing they ever said or did would ever make them acceptable to the Nazis.

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