This Is Not An Analogy For Anything
It was a grey morning in Ponyville, and there was a new filly in town named Aryanne. She had a golden mane the same colour as wheat at the peak of its harvest, and a clean, white coat. She also had a cutie mark of a swastika, an odd-looking four-armed shape which had somehow become the official logo of a group of folk interested in making sure other groups of folks never existed. Aryanne didn't understand everything about it, but she knew it had caused problems in the past, and was hoping a recent relocation to the quaint town of Ponvyille would prove just what she needed to move away from a complicated and messy past. Also the ponies in the town she used to live in had burned down her parents' house and chased the entire family out into the woods, so it was important for them to find somewhere to sleep where they wouldn't wake up covered in mosquitoes and rain-water.
Today was Aryanne's first day of class at Ponyville Elementary, and she was very nervous. One thing Aryanne found interesting was that apparently not everypony in the entire world had a little voice inside their head telling them what to do. Aryanne had a few in hers, though she'd hesitate to call them 'voices', really, they were more like script-readers, or writers, they'd spell out the things she was going to say on a line of paper and she'd recite them. Sometimes she agreed with what they had to say, other times, not so much. But she didn't have anypony else telling her what to say, so the voices in her head would have to do.
Usually they were pleasant and co-operative. Often times they'd recommend keeping quiet and staying near the back of the crowd, observing and letting things go by as they came. But sometimes, for whatever reason, and it was of particular interest to Aryanne, even though she'd repeatedly failed to understand it, sometimes, the voices got very, very loud, and started to yell about things, and wouldn't stop until Aryanne co-operated and yelled with them. Usually that happened when somepony was talking about Aryanne's cutie mark.
For one thing, Aryanne didn't know if she should wear something over her cutie mark on her first day of class. She knew that someponies would know what the symbol meant, and others wouldn't. She hadn't learned what it meant until her third birthday, and even then, her father's lecture had left her more confused than comfortable with her heritage. Apparently it all involved something about being better than everypony else, but not having a good or convenient way to show that. Then little Aryanne appeared into the equation, a bundle of joy delivered by the Equestrian stork or the birthing mirror or whatever contrivance of reproduction was currently in vogue. Aryanne had requested a reiteration of the explanation more than once, and yet failed to come out with much more of a concrete understanding. Most of her attempts at conversation on the topic ended abruptly with her father offering to take her clothes shopping. It bothered her at first, but not much anymore.
All of this was all well and good, but how did it come together?
Well, before Aryanne could arrive to her first day of class, or rather, as she arrived, she encountered a delegation of protesters outside the school-house, maybe about half the population of town, holding signs with pictures of Aryanne underneath a red crossed circle. Many more were of her cutie mark under the same red crossed circle.
Mayor Mare was standing on a podium in front of the protesters. She had a large microphone, which she checked a few times. Then she cleared her throat.
"Good afternoon, everypony," she began.
"Get that nazi pony outta here!" somepony yelled from the crowd.
"Nazi pones, buck off!" somepony else yelled. A volatile contingent of surrounding ponies joined in behind them.
Mayor Mare cleared her throat loudly into the microphone and adjusted it to accompanying feedback.
"Now now," she said. "There's no reason to be disrespectful. This is an open discourse, and no matter the differences in opinions, if we all try our best, I'm sure we can—"
"No swastikas, but Starlight's cutie mark fascism gets a pass?" somepony with a caustic sounding snark asked from the front of the crowd.
"They start by erasing the bits they don't like, and soon there'll be nothing left to learn from!" shouted another.
"I'm standing on a very large pile of mud, and if somepony doesn't help me, I'm going to slip and fall!"
"Please, everypony," Mayor Mare said, struggling to be heard above the clamour of the crowd even with the aid of her magical microphone's amplification. "The foundation of any courteous intellectual forum is politeness. Even though these are highly emotional matters, remember there's absolutely no cause for—"
"Horse-fascists!"
"Censoring scum!"
At the back of the tumultuous throng of protesters, Aryanne had managed to slip into the crowd, and was standing with her saddlebag and the black hat her father had loaned her. Other than that she looked mostly like a normal, uncontroversial pony, save the unmistakable mark on her flank. Her face gave away barely a hint of emotion as she watched the exchange between Mayor Mare and the unsatisfied rabble on both sides.
The voices in the crowd had blurred together into a tumultuous swirl of noise, such that it would have been impossible even with very good hearing to pick out the message Mayor Mare's assistant whispered in her ear. Aryanne watched the mayor closely from far away, the knowing nod and the steely glint in her eyes glancing back to her assistant.
"Everypony," Mayor Mare intoned into the microphone, the amplified frequencies cutting through the undulating murmurs. "As the lead representative for Ponyville on all matters political and otherwise, let me assure you all that we are taking every step possible to ensure this new and sensitive matter will be handled with the utmost car and concern..."
"Are you gonna let that nazi pony go to school with our foals? I have half a mind to march straight to Princess Celestia and let her know what kind of town you're running!"
"Oh, and our unquestioning allegiance to a sun goddess who imprisoned a child in stone is so much better. If we can't study the past, we can't learn from it, and that child—"
"She's not a child, she's a piece of fascist propaganda!"
"She's a living breathing pony with feelings, and you're starting to sound less committed to friendship by the second!"
"Friendship is an egalitarian buzz-word for—"
"Do you think anyone's noticed I'm just saying 'rhubarb' over and over again?" Bonbon asked.
"QUIET!" Mayor Mare yelled into the microphone, so loud it blew out the hearing horn of that one really old pony who's always in the background of inconsequential shots.
After a while, and some physical encouragement from the on-site pony police task force, the crowd quieted down. Mostly.
"I want you all to know I've just received the final deliberation from our council of ethics," Mayor Mare said. And, after an infinite sea of dead-eyed stares: "Yes, Ponyville has a council of ethics."
Somepony in the crowd cleared their throat loudly.
"Yes," Mayor Mare said. She adjusted her mayoral tie and cleared her throat as well. "Regardless. The verdict is in. I am pleased to announce that the filly known as Aryanne... will not be welcome at Ponyville Elementary."
Mayor Mare set down the piece of paper she'd received and breathed a sigh of relief.
The crowd, in general, exploded into reaction.
As the fervor began to grow, Mayor Mare shot a desperate glance to the side of the stage, but her assistant was nowhere to be found.
A single, blonde-haired filly extricated herself from the brewing riot and began to wander quietly back home, where she could have a discussion with her mom and dad about the historicity of various Equestrian conflicts, specifically the casualty numbers resultant from those conflicts. Her daddy liked arguing about those.
Despite the fact that half the crowd or more seemed to respond positively to Mayor Mare's decision, a dedicated mob had splintered off from the front of the crowd like an angry, undulating amoeba, and were approaching the mayor and stage while holding flaming torches, pitch-forks, and other implements of general rabble rousing such as might be found in the background of a play about similar events. One of them had a wooden bat with a nail in it, for character.
"Um, n-now, everypony," Mayor Mare said, aiming in the general direction of the microphone but mostly missing as her attention was focused more on backing away from the blunt and pointy objects. "Please, remember this is a, s-sensitive matter for everypony, and the moment we regress to, t-to name-calling and violence, we're no better than the, the..."
The mayor's speech trailed off, as did her gaze, into the rich, brilliant flame atop the many torches held in front of her.
Perhaps she'd been too rash.
"Well, uh, perhaps, after some, er, consideration... too hasty in our decision, that is, er..."
The group stared ahead wordlessly, some ponies tapping their implements against their hooves.
Mayor Mare cleared her throat again. She grabbed at the microphone, which was miraculously still functioning.
"Upon further reflection," she said into the microphone, her voice wavering and wobbly, "it has occurred to, er, the, uh, Ponyville ethical council, that, that, um... that banning any pony from attending school, may be, uh, grounds for consideration, and, that is... after a necessary probationary period, of course—"
Mayor Mare had been staring down at the wood beneath her hooves. She looked up, and saw the wooden bat.
And the nail.
"Aryanne is no longer banned from attending school at Ponyville Elementary," Mayor Mare said quickly, just loud enough that it carried over the crowd. "She will receive a comprehensive ethics re-education course, with the finest—"
Once again, the crowd responded. Variably, largely, and in borderline violent degrees. It was a contained explosion, and again a miracle that nopony had been hurt. Yet.
At home, finding her parents gone on errands, Aryanne had plunked herself down in front of the television and started watching cartoons. She'd made herself some strawberry toaster-pastries with icing swirls on them, and was eating them with a glass of pure, white milk. She laughed as she watched the cartoons on the T.V., and little crumbs of pink strawberry pastry flew from the corners of her mouth and landed in her butter-yellow mane.
Back to Ponyville Elementary, where Mayor Mare was seriously rebuking herself for firing her bodyguards and reallocating their pay to fund her addiction to pictures of her human OC wearing a suit and a top hat.
Just as the flares and pointed implements of one side of the protest had vanished, so had emerged the opposite end of the throng, surging menacingly towards the stage with the same look of well-intentioned violence burning behind each steely gaze. In all the fuss of the day's protests the school had yet to start a single class, and the foals who were missing their education had congregated into a generalized blob of youthful chaos that spun of its own accord around the nearby playground.
Furthermore, she'd better remember to fire that assistant, if a one piece of paper delivery was all you could expect out of her.
"I'm terribly sorry," Mayor Mare said into the microphone, barely able to find a hint of her usual public speaking lacquer to apply over each word. "It seems there's been some kind of, of, of a miscommunication... Aryanne will be... banned, that is. Oh, my, I left the most important part out..."
Grr. A growling herd of ponies emerged from the right side of the stage.
"And, by, 'will', I of course mean, 'won't'..."
Grrr. A growling group of angry horses, approaching from a leftwards motion.
"That is to say, perhaps she'll, um, be simultaneously banned and, er, not banned..."
Whatever ambient grumblings there were boiled over collectively into full-on uproar. Instances of 'rhubarb' increased vociferously in volume and could not be coaxed back down.
The final straw strummed, the last potential moment before the crowd surged over the stage and swallowed it whole, Mayor Mare kicked open the emergency hatch adjacent her podium and dove inside, disappearing to the dank network of underground wooden tunnels long-since wallpapered by spiderwebs. Mayor Mare kicked herself with every crawled-by inch, reminding herself above everything else not to hold political conferences first thing in the morning, especially before she'd had her coffee...
It was a grey morning in Ponyville. Alone in her house, Aryanne finished her breakfast and went upstairs to write in her diary.
Dear diary, she began, in all actuality, the widely reported figure...
The end.
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Hah! You got the upper hand on TittySparkles xD
oh noez
10312836
I guess we'll see if the other Great Horse Repository caves.
Now that was something
But what happened to the pony who was standing on top of a pile of mud? Did they slip and fall? Are they still to this day trapped on top of the slippery pile crying plaintively for help never certain what to do for fear of falling?
You absolute fucking Mad Lad.
Bless.
Pretty much an accurate depiction of today's political society.
I don't believe that ethnically diverse people are inferior, but i also don't believe that all Nazis are 100% evil. There will always be people that don't get along with eachother it's part of what makes us human.
But when the good, and the just, and the politically correct stand on their soap boxes and force thier opinions and world views down the throats of an otherwise unconcerned majority, they become much like the very nazis they have condemned for having different beliefs.
And before you label me a Nazi sympathizer, I don't believe genocide of any kind is acceptable, (I personally rather enjoy diverse and interesting foreign cultures) that having been said if we were to erase Nazism from history or the present day just for the sake of political correctness would we realy be any better than the Nazis we set out to destroy?
10312959
Too late. You have an opinion that extends past Nazi bad.
That's no longer allowed in today's society.
I kek'ed hard in some places. Perfect recap of the current situation.
I mean rhubarb.
10312988
Im not realy sure I was ever realy allowed in today society in the first place.
10313000
Nobody knows. One needs a stock ticker that constantly feeds information about the ever changing hierarchical nature of wokeness.
I think there should be a tag for her. She is cute.
For a filly whose house was burned down and who cannot even go to school without the whole town erupting over how this will influence the children and censorship principles, she's really doing her best studying history and laughing at cartoons.
10312840
I ain't even mad.
Rhubarb! Rhubarb rhubarb?
RHUBARB!!
Just as a reminder:
Aryanne is an idiot in and of herself.
She's an Earth pony who looks down on Earth ponies because Aryanne thinks she's a Unicorn, hence way she calls them "Mud Trackers" and "Flying Diseases" Again, this because she's an idiot; she has no idea what notsees are, but she spouts their propaganda because it's her cutie mark.
I wish I could say I did Nazi this coming.
10312959
Not that I'm attacking your opinion but Nazis literally revoked the personhood from an entire ethnicity. There's no political discourse to be had with a group that believes certain groups of people aren't people. There is no compromise that works, everybody is either fully a person or you allow one group to arbitrarily impose their will on others
10313171 Ouch.
10313103 Shows that Bonbon is an actress. (during crowd scenes, the extras quietly say "Rhubarb rhubarb" to simulate conversation)
10312959 Accurate, complete to the point where politicians try to occupy both sides of a controversial topic.
10313078
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But really, I'll be sure to check yours when it's done, too
10312959
I would rephrase one bit.
I would say not all Germans were Nazis, Nazis' were the ones who believed the propaganda and participated in the actions against the victims of the holocaust. Like how the SS were the ones who primarily ran the concentration camp. Not every soldier those ideals, look at the Battle of Itter Castle.
10312959
"I don't believe all Nazis are evil"
And people wonder why there are problems in the MLP community.
Oooh, boy.... You know things have gotten bad when people start writing stuff on FIMFiction about it.
But Pinkie Pie, nopony could bake 6 million cakes in 5 years!
10313313
Surely you reckon that the "100%" qualifier you dropped in your quotation is rather important for the meaning of the whole phrase. Nazism, in its ramifications if not in its core tenets, is what you may call evil, but an evil set of believes does not revoke all the good qualities of a person, or disable them from having otherwise productive or appreciable conversations, especially conversations that help to have a more open and beneficial set of viewpoints. Purposefully othering people for something they didn't say is one of the easiest ways to stoke the flames of useless arguing and you are leaving nothing that qualifies as a helpful statement to explain what stance you are actually disagreeing with, unlike FaNarchy right before you.
10312959 You don't believe genocide or non-personhood of other human beings is acceptable.
But you do believe it's acceptable to believe such things are good (i. e. to be a Nazi/fascist).
Do you even see the problem here?
10312959
I'm not advocating for banning any content. However, I wanted to respond to something I find very distressing.
I don't believe all people who murder infants because they think it's fun are necessarily "100%" evil, but they're evil enough that I absolutely do not want to associate with them. The same is true for people who support an ideology of racism and genocide. I want nothing to do with those people.
I understand what you're trying to say, but the Nazis tortured and butchered eleven million people, including infants and children. Trying to paint that as equivalent to people discussing or pushing for social changes you disagree with is absolutely appalling. I think you're detached from the reality of how horrifying an ideology this is, and you're not acknowledging how spreading those ideologies obviously makes minority groups feel unwelcome in a community.
Wow, what a straw pony. Zero people are trying to do this. Taking down statues of Hitler is not "erasing Nazism from history", but just the opposite: they're not allowing history to be whitewashed and recast villains as heroes. The need to keep Nazism in history is why we have Holocaust museums and textbooks that showcase those things (like statues and photographs) in context. People who oppose Nazism (like Jewish people, for one) want museums and textbooks to have information on Nazism. They vigorously oppose removing that information from school curricula. What you're implying here is totally false.
You're being a Nazi apologist when you say they're not "100% evil" and call people opposing Nazis Nazis as though the ideology is on-par with its antithesis. This is vile behavior, and though I may not support your removal personally, I can fully understand why many people in the community want people like you to leave.
10313488
now that's a s p i c y m e a t b a l l
10312919
They have made peace with the mud, and now live in harmony with it. The Grass however is not so amicable about it.
The thing that annoys me most about this story is this: in show canon, we see that cutie marks are never imposed on a pony. Instead they reflect an integral part of the pony's personality- the core aspect, the thing the pony cares about most.
There is simply no way a pony could ever get a swastika cute mark innocently. This pony would not have that mark unless she not only believed in fascism, but made it the single most important aspect of her existence.
Nazi symbols do not happen innocently- not in pony life any more than in real life.
who cares about nazis? there free game to mock
10313488
And that is why calling someone a Nazi because they don't conform to your opinion of liberal utopia is so disgusting.
Just because someone doesn't think everyone should be allowed to cross into your country with no supervision ARE NAZIS.
Everyone who thinks that there might be some problems with BLM ideology, despite them having a very important message, then you ARE A NAZI.
Everyone who thinks that because every significant influenza epidemic and/or pandemic in the last three decades has started in China, there might be something that could be done about it ARE NAZIS.
I know history. I live in a country that was on the side of the Nazis in WW2. I know what they did. I'm disgusted by anyone calling anyone else a Nazi in this day and age for disagreeing with them on anything political. And that's why I immediately stop listening to anyone who uses the Nazi card.
10313136
Wait... is this true? Like, is that an actual established thing about her character? If so, that just makes all of this nontroversy seem even more silly.
10312959
Oh, how dare you think there are more than two sides to an argument? How DARE you think that if someone isn't 100% agreeing with you, they are 100% against you in everything? Us or them is the only option. No compromise, no talking things over, no trying to understand the other side.
That would only lead us to a non-partisan world where people actually tried to accept each other instead of "tolerating" and live together instead of shouting on opposite mountain tops on how wrong the others are instead of living in the valley between. And understanding that sometimes, some cultures just don't mix and should thus not be pushed together forcefully if neither side wants to integrate. Understanding and peaceful coexistence is possible, but hating is so much easier.
We don't want that! We want more drama! More trolling! More memes and arguments and triggers!
10312959
10313478
The difference between Nazis and the people that they are against is quite simple.
One of them wants the other dead, enslaved, and/or beneath them. To be a Nazi is to believe in that definition of superiority. THat is part and parcel of the "So you Want to Be A Nazi" starterkit. It is intrinsically tied to it.
They are not excellent BBQers who just so happen to think that. They ARE that first and foremost in their thoughts and actions.
See, there's this thing called compromise. It's great. People disagree on something, they find a middle ground and agree to have it at that.
But there are somethings that are uncompromiseable.
These things are a little something call life, human rights, and existence.
There's this great quote on Twitter that's been going around.
The unjust man tells the just man to meet him in the middle.
The just man steps forward and the unjust man takes a step back.
Once more, he says, "Meet me in the middle."
I don't doubt that Nazis can be good people. They can be good and kind and just as lovely as the rest of us. It's just that to a very specific set of us they decide that they want them dead.
One side wants to exist and have the same rights. One side wants them dead.
You're trying to equate both sides as if they're similar.
AccidentallyOffensive, I @ed you because I wanted to explain why this stance is problematic. You can let free speech and thoughts happen, but to a point. And that point has to be telling people that some things are unacceptable.
There are liberals who take it too far. There are feminists who go completely overboard and call for castration and the death of all men. And there are people who try to force thinkboxes. But just because of the vocal minority does not mean the movement as a whole is irrelevant.
Kris, I @ed you because I just wanted to say hi and also that i agreed with you. Also I noticed that your comment got a lot of downvotes and I think it's because people didn't understand your point.
10313274
Last time I checked the history books we didn't "let" the Nazis do a Damn thing, we stoped em. but when you start hunting down a people for thier beliefs no matter how flawed it makes you no better then them.
10313306
Thank you that's exactly what I was trying to convey.
10313478
Read that back to me and show me where I said good
10313488
Your not wrong, but as FaNarchy pointed out my comment was poorly worded, i dont believe all soldiers that marched under the banner of nazi germany were evil, or nazis
So yeah all Nazis
wereare evilDo people realy want me to leave? My comment was wrong and Im sorry. I can leave if you want but I'd rather stick around and read about ponies.
10313821 First: don't use "were" when talking about Nazis. There are houses in the county seat where I buy groceries with Nazi flags flying over the front porch today. They have not gone away.
Second: I said that you believe it is ACCEPTABLE for someone else to believe that racial superiority, de-humanization, ethnic cleansing, purity culture and genocide are good. Yet you also say all these things, in and of themselves, are not acceptable.
The problem is this: if you accept that people can hold these views and still be accepted in society, then YOU HAVE ALSO ACCEPTED THOSE VIEWS into the society. You have said, "This is a legitimate position, and we should consider adopting it."
If you actually believe that Nazi views and symbols are unacceptable, that means you CANNOT accept those who spread them. And if you accept those that spread Nazi teachings, you've basically made peace with those teachings; even if you don't agree, you're not going to fight them.
The white supremacists know this, which is why they are always the loudest to cry out for tolerance and free speech... for themselves. And then, once they've taken a space over, they make it utter hell for everyone else, until they have that space all to themselves, because they're not interested in playing fair, or having a polite discussion, or being respectful, except where it gives them a lever.
And from where I sit, several people here are giving them a mile-long prybar.
10313488
Well spoke, Trick. You speak for me as well, measuredly and specifically.
For all the uneducated, Nazi Germany only stole the Swastika symbol. It had been in use for far longer than Germany had even been a thing.
Don't believe me? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swastika.
10313830
He didn't say Nazis (the ideology, not the people ) are good.
He said he doesn't believe they (the people) are 100% evil. That's two different things.
This either/or stuff has got to stop.
No it doesn't and you're stretching. I can acknowledge that people hold the terrible views of Nazi ism. That doesn't mean I accept those views. Acknowledgement and acceptances are two different things. But I can reluctantly accept a person into society if they positively contribute to society as long as they keep those shitty views to themselves/don't do harm.
Between a person who holds bigoted ideals but somehow manages to do good work and keep they views mostly to themselves and an asshole on twitter that doxxes children and young teenagers because they made an edgy joke and sends the faceless hordes of the internet against them. I would rather take the bigot.
By this logic does that mean I can no longer accept violent video games, particularly ones that primarily feature guns?
But seriously, are we going to pretend that people on the internet haven't been memeing and shitposting offensive edgy humor for decades now? Oh, anyone that does it MUST be trying to spread Nazi teachings. Really?
Wow, the parallel between the white suprmacists and the "woke" crowds are scary.
10313914
White supremacists have been doing exactly that, yes.
The kind of shitposts you're talking about are trial balloons- feeling out how far they can go in expressing their views openly, recruiting like-minded people, then moving on to worse material using "It's only a joke!" as a shield.
Even those who don't actually believe in white supremacy, by offering up those Nazi-friendly jokes, provide cover and protection for those who do.
And, in the process, they make it clear to those who the supremacists target that they are not welcome in that community- that the community has room for Nazis, but not for them.
10313830
I didn't say any of those things...at least I don't think I did?
I was just trying to say if we hunt down all the Nazis and persecute them for their beliefs (No mater how wrong they are) it kinda makes us nazis
10313942
So all memers and shitposters who use that offensive imagery are white supremacists.
No. Just no.
10313950 No, it really doesn't.
There is a marked difference between calling for the criminalization, depersonization and elimination of people of color, LGBT people, non-Christians, and foreigners as a matter of public policy on one side, and throwing people who advocate those policies out of otherwise inclusive groups on the other. There really is no comparison.
10313953 They either are white supremacists, or they're creating a space where white supremacists can thrive, expand and organize.
And in any case, it doesn't speak well of any person when they think the fear and anger of threatened minority groups is enjoyable.
10313971
No. They are not and you're making a massive exaggeration.
Derpibooru had people memeing and shitposting this stuff for nearly a decade and the amount of white supremacist's were non-existent. I guarantee you 99% of the people minimum were doing for the lulz.
Actual white supremacists will be in their own little dark clubs on the internet, or Facebook, but something about this new progressive wave seems to love seeing enemies and bigots practically everywhere.
Out of everything, this is actually the first offensive thing I've seen here. If you don't like offensive, edgy humor. That's you and you do you. But get off your high horse and shit talking people because they like humorous content you don't.
But, hey I guess it doesn't speak well of me and many other people who willing picked the Terrorist side when playing a game like Counter-Strike or the million of people who play games like Grand Theft Auto.
FFS. That actually made me mad.
10313819
You have very clearly defined Nazism (all though I must admit that I didn't understand the BBQ part)
I believe my original comment was poorly conceived, and poorly worded. I never meant to justify nazism.
I just thought persecuting them for thier beliefs was wrong, if they were to once more act on those beliefs and harm the innocent then i believe they need to be stopped.
Thank you for not twisting my poorly worded comment and using it as a weapon against me.
10313830
This particular piece of text right here sounds a bit dangerous to me, and actually sounds very similar to what the Nazis themselves thought about the Jews. It's not nearly on the same level, but it "rhymes" enough that I think that this thought process might be a step in the wrong direction, or at least a bad way of looking at the situation.
10313987 Not so. Telling Nazis to pound sand is a response to a belief and an action- a thing the Nazi chose to do, and a thing the Nazi could stop doing at any time. The Jews were persecuted and maligned for a condition of birth, and nothing they ever said or did would ever make them acceptable to the Nazis.