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"From the moment I picked your book up until I laid it down, I was convulsed with laughter. Someday I intend reading it." Groucho Marx

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Rainbow Dash has been caught playing pranks again. Punishments haven't stopped her in the past, so Twilight and Starlight try a creative new solution.

It involves hypnosis and a Tulpa.

Also, she might get in on the hypnotist action herself at some point.

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I'll admit, when I read the description, I simultaneously dreaded where it was going and became curious enough that I had to read it.

And so far, I'm glad I read it.

Also... is this based on the idea I sent?

This is such an amusing little story so far! I hope you continue it. :twilightsmile:

It's not often I find a curious little story like this. Bravo on the story so far.

I dont think hypnosis works like that where you stop paying attention half way though. I mean you would go into a trance and you would pay attention untill they told you to stop. Still interesting idea.

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Yes it is. I'm not surprised you needed to ask. I know I took a lot of liberties with the execution.

“I’m starting to think you’re a bad influence on me!”

You're only just now thinking that? :rainbowlaugh:

So this hasn't gone at all like I feared it might (which is good), so I'll bite and see where this goes next. :twilightsmile:

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I don't think hypnosis works like that where you stop paying attention half way though. I mean you would go into a trance and you would pay attention until they told you to stop. Still interesting idea.

Even with normal hypnosis, it is normal for the person in trance to not remember much of the details.

Remember, real hypnosis isn't that much different from a daydream, you just have someone directing it for a purpose instead of random thoughts from your mind. The trance state is basically physical relaxation, plus a focused mind, plus some sort of imagined sensory input -- that's typically visualizations for most people, sound or touch for blind, etc.

How often do you have recall over the details of your daydreams, let alone your night dreams?

Applejack, Rarity, Pinkie, and Fluttershy all agreed to meet us in one of the school auditoriums. I told them I had an awesome presentation that would totally convince them not to expel Gallus. Which I guess is true.

Oh hold on! I went into this chapter expecting some sort of hypnosis on Gallus, to see what a counter tupla would be like.

And, yes, we've have real hypnosis in-canon, so we can't even say that's too far fetched.

But ... Hypnotizing the rest of the staff without permission? Didn't her tupla warn ... oh, right, this was the tupla's idea.

Err ... good job with mind control Starlight? :=-)

Ok, if you have to have non-consensual hypnosis, this is ... probably the least harmful? Lets face it, they did not want to expel him before, now they're just working to find a way to keep him in. But ... leaving a deep trigger implanted? In fairness, I don't really know how effective triggers like that actually are in reality after just one session, especially when a person isn't in agreement with it.

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For the next couple of ours,

Hours

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My point was that the story is implying that because RD stoped paying attention she didnt catch everything Twilight said meaning that not all of what twilight said went into her head, resulting in the hypnosis not working as intended. While It is normal for somone not to remember some or all of the trance, the idea of her getting bored during the trance and that causeing not all of the hypnotic sygestions to go in is less believable. Again though it is still a really interesting concept.

“I was thinking,” said Pinkie, “maybe you can use your presentation skills,” wink-wink, “to inspire Applejack, and help her find her inner Rarity.”

oh, no, no, no, no.

Pinkie, what are you doing?
Rarity, listen to your inner voice of reason.
Starlight ... why are you smiling with a hoof pointed up?

This story is like a train wreck in progress. I can't not read what comes next just to see how much worse things will get.

What will Twilight say when she finds out what's happening?

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You're not wrong.

My point was that the story is implying that because RD stoped paying attention she didnt catch everything Twilight said meaning that not all of what twilight said went into her head, resulting in the hypnosis not working as intended.

Stories tend to overpower hypnosis. It just works, and when things do go wrong, it's usually a case of characters taking their programming too literally. In my opionion your arguments only support fictional hypnosis, which we've seen so much of, that yes I bucked the convention.

Have you ever looked into recovered memories; UFO's, past lives, that sort of thing. There's some eerie stuff out there, but most subjects either can't be hypnotized, or they'll tell a story even when they should have nothing to tell.

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Have you ever looked into recovered memories; UFO's, past lives, that sort of thing. There's some eerie stuff out there, but most subjects either can't be hypnotized, or they'll tell a story even when they should have nothing to tell.

Last I checked the research, it was pretty much "Close to everyone can be hypnotized". The researchers didn't want to claim 100%, but there was no evidence of a non-hypnotizable person.

Now, not every induction method works on everyone. And people can be hypnotized without realizing it (there are indirect methods, no I'm not skilled with them).

I think the biggest problem is that people don't know what hypnosis is; what we see in stories is not accurate for most (well over 66% :-) of real people.

It's always harsh to discover how things were done centuries ago...

Village elder: "My fellow equine, thou hast been found guilty of a misdemeanor of moderate foulness. The venerated Radiant Whiskers of the catsune tribe shall implement your punishment so thou mayst see the severity of your crimes." *holds up nine-tailed cat to criminal's face*
Whiskers: "Maow." *whaps criminal with fluffy tails*
Village elder: "Thus has penance for your crime been achieved. May the mild burning of your eyes, itching of your nose and cat hair stuck between your teeth be a lesson to you as to us all."
(Female townspony in background: "Over here, Mr. Whiskers! Come to mommy! Someone's earned himself a nice big bowl of milk when we get home. Who's mommy's good little purveyor of righteous justice and balanced harmony? Thou art, yes thou art~"

It was a dark and dreary times.

I think you did an excellent job with the induction text! it would have been wonderful to read about how Dash chose to influence any given character, but I understand leaving it up to their own imagination as well.

Hope to see more!

How is stealing clothes sexual misconduct, when they never wear clothes normally anyway?

Hope this updates some time. Im very curious to see what happens next.

Comment posted by Babbling Brook deleted Jul 29th, 2021
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