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LoLo June
A friendly pegasister who loves making friends. I occasionally write stories. *^-^*
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is a proud pone Nicely done, Lo
This is a fantastic and well-written story. I'm excited to see what else you write, it's sure to be amazing!
Ohhh, really really did amazing with the whole, thrill of the hunt atmosphere of this. And then on with the very, very hawt kinkyness. A great first story!
Why is this in "Rape" under the "Dungeon" group?
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Because it is rape.
8510649 "Your rape isn't rapey enough, stop calling it rape!"
Grats on becoming a fully official CTS author LoLo! Complete with a ceremonial visit from the Consent Totally Sucks troll.
Well done!! I enjoyed reading it!
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Thank you! I'm glad you did.
I'm so excited to see you post my dear! Congrats!
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Thanks Ember!
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And seraphim, don't be a dick.
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I am assuming that she meant rape-play. Which honestly I'd still put in that folder. Most people even would prefer to avoid that subject entirely.
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Or rape roleplay. But yes, thank you. I still don't think it should be in the same category imo.
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Eeeeh I got no complaints from the group admin when I did it with crystal Queen so I don't think he quite minds.
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And there's Lunar Ravishing, too. And Rainy Day Play has been in there for ages (maybe years?). Wouldn't seem like they mind.
Where? I saw 2000+ words of rapefic with some Stockholm syndrome at the end. If it is consensual, please show it in the story. She said "no" and "stop" and he ignored it, that either needs explanation or it is non-consensual.
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Do you not know what the Clocktower Society IS in this universe?
This is a ROLE-PLAYING SESSION. In a SAFE environment, between SANE, CONSENTING adults.
Please go read a few lines from the main CTS story "guidebooks". They explain what the Clocktower Society is, how the collar/mask coloring system works in regards to fetishes/sexual preferences, and anything else you might think up while trying to figure out why this is NOT a simple rapefic.
8512761 A fic should stand on its own hooves. If it is just a chapter of a larger fic, it should be part of said larger fic, or at least link it as a sequel.
If this is roleplay, then show it. Don't make it a fakeout.
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1. It is a Clocktower Society story where consent is implied by how the setting and society work.
2. Stop. No. Are words very commonly said during any kind of BDSM play, that is why safewords exist (even in real life). If she really wanted to call a full and proper stop she would have used her safe word. Saying no during roleplayed rape, which is what this was, is a very common thing because it adds to the excitement of the scene you are playing out.
8512740 Well, 8512761 Beat me to it, but yes, it's covered under Setting: Clocktower Society
The collar is direct evidence that this was in play, and unless she used a safe word, any 'no' etc... was simply her acting in character. The end bit was how they really feel and him taking care of her after their play.
And Wendy explained it better anyway, but yeah think you get the idea.
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Hi. This isn’t meant to be a chapter of the main fic, but a story set in the same setting. I hope that clears things up!
8512765 Consent should never be "implied".
BDSM was not shown, ever. This makes no attempt to justify any of the normal standards of BDSM safety.
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It isn't really a chapter of a larger fic, merely a seperate story set in that universe.
8512769 Okay, but as a stand-alone story, it would be great if you could show why it isn't rape. Simply having him complementing her on not using her safe word would have worked, or even (during the scene) double checking that he isn't hurting her. It doesn't take much to change "assumed consent" to "actual consent".
8512764 Have you never heard of a shared setting before?
Hell all MLP fanfics outside of some AU's is itself a shared setting.
Clocktower Society is an established shared fic universe, each one is it's own separate story, but all work off the same worldbuilding and rules, allowing for short stories like this to simply use those, rather then spending time explaining things that are simply intrinsic to the setting. Everything you need is contained in "Setting: Clocktower Society" complete with a link to click to learn just what that is.
8512779 Then why doesn't this have the AU tag on it?
Even if there is required reading, crafting actual consent into the story wouldn't have taken much work. As I said above, hinting that there were safewords would be a good start.
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Usually we compliment folks for using safewords, for knowing their limits and stopping things before they get too far. Complimenting someone for not using a safeword is counterproductive.
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Correct, but in this case, nothing was implied, it was explicit in the setting. Her having the collar she did, and the lack of any usage of the Clocktower safewords were explicit forms of consent within the Clocktower. Just because you were unaware of them, does not make them non-existent. It is the fundamental foundation on which things were built in this story as detailed in the core CTS fic that was linked as a way to find out more.
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I assume you've only seen very mainstream examples of BDSM. It can be done in many ways that don't involve whips and chains. I've actually done something similar to this in real life. I'm not going to argue it with you in the comments but this is a story set in the CTS Universe, which means that it is happening in a controlled environment where someone can be called by saying the correct safeword.
I would advise not commenting about something if you don't actually know the setting itself. It makes you come off as uninformed when leaving comments like your original one.
8512788 I was not commenting on the clock stuff, but this story. It is a story that is marked as not being an AU (so should reside in normal MLP-verse), and claims consent and safety where none is shown.
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Clocktower is set in a normal MLP setting. There is nothing substantially different in the normal pony world.
8512780 Because CTS isn't an outright AU, but works to keep up that 'plausible deniability' angle of things just happening off screen. And, it does say very clearly
Setting: Clocktower Society
CTS isn't so much an AU, as simply a very large BDSM club in this case, with the rules etc... established that make this work. As has been pointed out many times. The facts are there, you are the one choosing to not seek them out.
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Are you really going to focus on it not having the AU tag? Because you're going to hate me if that is what you are going to focus on. It clearly says Setting: Clocktower Society. Which is even includes a link to the main story. and much as 8512795 pointed out CTS itself is not really an AU.
8512807 No, what I am focused on is that this story is a fragment, not complete. If you want it consensual, show it.
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Again, it's called a shared universe, the story is a fully complete narrative in every possible meaning of the term. The you are choosing to ignore fundamental facts of the setting, that are objectively established within the stories Narrative by stating this takes place in CTS and thus governed by that settings rules, that is 100% on you.
8512809
The story, is part of a larger setting. So if it feels fragmented that's kind of expected if you don't know the setting. That's like picking up a Fallout Equestria one-shot and expecting it to explain everything about the setting without it taking away from the story the author wants to tell and focus on.
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Could I maybe also point you to the last scene where there is aftercare? Or are we going to pretend that Stockholm Syndrome happens over night? :D
8512829 Stockholm syndrome did indeed happen overnight. The reason it is called Stockholm syndrome is because it happened in a bank in Stockholm, where the standoff lasted for a few days.
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In that case my dear think whatever you want to think and have a nice day.
8512833 You too!
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So, it can happen 'overnight' because it's named after an event, that lasted a few days? Also, it just means someone identifies and connects to their captor, finds a reason to not hate them, even want them to get things together. LOOOONG cry between that, and being as close as they were in the aftercare section.
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I'm not quite sure how to say this, so I'll just ask if understand what fanfiction is? You do understand that literally nothing on this website is standing on its own, right? I wouldn't call any given fanfic a chapter or sequel to what it's derived from, so, according to your argument, I should judge fanfics solely on their own content and disregard any established canon from the source material.
In that case, I would have to say that this entire website is filled with nothing but poorly characterized garbage. Almost nobody takes any effort to establish a setting, who these characters, are or their motivations. (This is sarcasm; just so you know.)
No, just no. Fimfiction is a fanfiction website; implied canon from source material is practically mandatory, and in this case that source material is not only MLP:FiM, but also Clocktower. It's the same way a lot of fics use the established Fallout: Equestria setting, except Kkat hasn't said the only other story considered canon is a one-off clopfic.
8513593 Absolutely! Basically everything on this site assumes canon from one source, the show.
If you wish to claim that this source is different, or that there are other external sources, you need either the AU tag or the Crossover tag, respectively.
Now, since this (at my time of reading) had neither, I can only assume there is one source, My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic.
If it had the Crossover tag, or the AU tag, I would not have read the story.
By the way, your hyperbole is adorable.
Your last paragraph sums up my problem: coming to this site I assume that any and all lore and canon from the show is what the story is dealing with, except when they have AU or Crossover tags. You know those Fallout fics that everyone was claiming as defense? They have the Crossover tag, meaning I would need more knowledge than just MLP:FiM to appreciate. If this Clocktower Society source is so important, and makes things so different from the canon show (I think involving three of the four adult rulers in a secret sexual/political society is a significant modification), then this should be tagged AU.
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Your point about the AU tag is fair and completely legitimate. (This is not sarcasm.)
I honestly didn't notice the lack of the tag due to the explicit statement of an alternate setting in the description. I guess we look at different thing before choosing to read a fic. I barely look at the tags myself; to me, they're there to tell who is in any given story. I understand that is not how everyone uses them, but still, without variety life would be rather dull.
8513610 Oh indeed. I had a similar bait-and-switch pulled on another fic I was reading, this time it was Crossover. One minute it was a cute pony on Earth setting, and the next minute it was all Stargate upped. I have nothing against Stargate, but I wasn't after a crossover fic in that 'verse.
I only made this account so I could ask about the consent angle in this story because it seemed so strange that its description was so adamant about it being consensual, but it didn't even go on to mention any of the consent or safety. After skimming the clock stuff, I see that it has magical consent bells as a must for safety (and even those were not mentioned here), as well as safe words, but without presenting any of that you have to see how this would look to someone just picking this fic up and reading it?
I might just delete my account and go back to reading fics; feedback seems quite unwelcome here. Have a good day!
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Hi again. To clear things up, this story isn’t set in an alternate universe. It is set in modern day normal Equestria with Clocktower having been added to the world. There is also no canon characters in this story to have altered either, only original characters, which is a tag I do have.
That was quite an enjoyable read.
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Thank you! ^^
I’m not into Clocktower stuff (people seem to be enjoying this story, though, so good job I guess), but I just had to comment because both of these are now stuck in my head...
I listen to too much music.
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It's fine lolz