• Published 15th Aug 2017
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When all else fails, blame the gods - chris the cynic



For the first, and possibly only, time in the DSP chronicles, Sunset Shimmer is able to use her BS and manipulation skills to avoid the blame.

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This is probably a very bad idea

Author's Note:

It is highly recommended that you simply read The Consequences of Good Intentions first as this picks up where that leaves off, but if you really don't want to, here are the key things you should have in mind:
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After Sunset Shimmer, leader of the Drunken Sex Party (DSP), was elected Prime Minister in Equestria her human friends convinced Principal Celestia to let them visit Equestria as a senior project, citing the unprecedented opportunity to study an alien culture first hand. They simply didn't mention what DSP stood for.
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Them being hosted by the Drunken Sex Party went about as well as you might expect. In fact, due to the wonders of magic, even though the only participants were female, five individuals were left pregnant in the wake of the Drunken Sex Party hosting the kind of (stoned) drunken sex parties that gave the political movement its name.
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Thus, upon their return, everyone joined for a meeting in Principal Celestia's office. The two Luna's spent it giggling and generally not taking anything seriously, Princess Celestia has been silent, the various students and their pony counterparts have been mostly silent, Principal Celestia has long since lost her cool and just finished a rather energetic rant.
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She ended her rant by asking all pregnant individuals to raise their hands. (It's possible, though not certain, that Rarity is pregnant by Rarity.)

That the farm-pony Applejack was pregnant was significantly overshadowed by the sight of Princess Luna looking smugly at her sister, holding up one hand and cupping her still flat belly with the other.

The last two times Sunset had been too mortified to really think things through, but the longer she stared at Luna, the more the gears started to turn in her mind. Luna would have a child, something had been unthinkable for the previous thousand years, give or take.

Luna would have a child which was only possible because of the elements of harmony as part of a thousand year long plan by Celestia.

Celestia had set in motion a plan that caused six of those present to become element bearers, which indirectly caused another six to do so as well due to the nature of parallel worlds, and the target of the plan was Luna. That covered everyone who was involved except for Sunset herself, and she was Celestia's –figurative– hand picked student.

Just like that, Sunset saw the way out. She saw it as clearly as she saw how to tear apart the population of the school with flimsy lies that would never stand up to an ounce of doubt or skepticism. She just had to present the version of the the situation she wanted in such a way that other versions weren't even considered.

She slowly turned back to Principal Celestia.

“I know this seems like an irresolvable mess and I know you're probably worried that the school-board will have your head or that a certain ex-Principal from Crystal Prep will use Twilight's pregnancy as the centerpiece of her campaign to get revenge on you.

“But there's actually a very simple solution,” Sunset said –she paused long enough for that to sink in, but not long enough for anyone to to actually respond to the statement– “and I don't mean having the three natural born humans pretend they didn't get pregnant until after graduation. That might seem like a good idea at first since it's basically impossible to pin down exactly when a child is conceived using the means available in this world, but lies like never stand the test of time.

“At the very least suspicions would be raised when three students announced they were pregnant so soon after graduation, and questions would arise that everyone would have a difficult time answering.

“No, the solution here isn't lies or slight of hand, it's presenting the truth in a way that will be believed. After all, this isn't your fault; you just need to be able to convince the school-board and any other interested parties of that fact without getting into the finer points of inter-dimensional travel, magic, or otherworldly duplicates.

“All you really need to do is give them someone one else to blame and just enough truth, no more than that, to actually believe that person is to blame. Ideally this would be someone who will cross over after the incident and never be seen again, thus escaping from any unpleasant consequences of taking the blame upon themselves.”

“Are you offering yourself up as a sacrificial lamb?” Principal Celestia asked.

“That wouldn't work, as your student I'd be considered your responsibility and people would pin the blame on you all the same. Even if we were just looking for a scapegoat, with no thought as to who happened to actually be responsible, we'd need to pick someone who could have reasonably undermined your authority without making you look like a bad leader.

“As such, it can't be a student. It has to be someone from outside of the school's power structure who can reasonably be seen as leading students astray in a way that doesn't besmirch your competence as a Principal.

“Fortunately the person who bears the lion's share of the responsibility meets that description perfectly.” Sunset Shimmer held up her hands in a gesture of 'wait' and added, “I'm not saying any of the fifteen of us are blameless, mind you, it's just that not everyone is equally to blame. Some bare more responsibility than others.”

That had bought her some more time to talk, which was important because she was counting on this being a monologue. That way she could control the flow of information and the directions it led. She needed to make sure her idea got out in full before anyone had a chance to entertain alternatives.

To that end she'd be relying mostly on shock and confusion. Right now she was running with confusion. Six pony element bearers, six human ones, one Sunset Shimmer, and Princess Luna only added up to fourteen. By saying "fifteen" she wasn't just opening up the possibility of laying blame on one of the others later on, she was distracting the remaining three from offering objections by forcing them to wonder which one of them she was referring to.

Vice Principal Luna had certainly acted the part, but it was hard to come up with a scenario where she was to blame and Principal Celestia was not. Sunset had already said that the situation wasn't Principal Celestia's fault, but it was certainly possible to bear partial blame for something that wasn't ultimately one's fault. Princess Celestia was Prime Minster Sunset Shimmer's superior and the ultimate authority over Equestira, but for most in the room it would be unthinkable for Sunset to blame Celestia. Beyond the obvious, hadn't she spent the previous two incidents desperately trying to maintain Celestia's approval?

It was something to think about, and while they thought about it Sunset could go on uninterrupted.

“Now I know you would never consider placing the blame on someone who didn't actually deserve it, so I'm going to tell you details that none of us would ever disclose to authorities outside this room so that you can be completely confident that you're placing blame on the right person and do it with a clear conscience.

“Obviously what we tell to the school-board will have to be extremely edited because there's no way that telling them about a dimension full of cute magical ponies would go over well.

“Now, for the full truth that doesn't leave this room:

“This all started with a series of accidents and coincidences years ago which when combined had the effect of causing a large number of ponies, and it was only ponies at that time, to make increasingly bad decisions as their own judgment became more and more impaired. Things snowballed rather spectacularly.

“In the aftermath two key players emerged. One of them was mortified, the other embraced what happened to the point of choosing her husband and life-calling based on it.” Now the Princesses Twilight and Celestia were staring at her aghast. Good, let them be too shocked to speak. The message here was for Principal Celestia. “These two ponies represented two very different perspectives on the event and different roads forward for Equestria.

“You know half of how that turned out,” Sunset said. “I was apologetic and desperate to do something to atone for what happened, that led to me being chased from my native plane of existence and dumped in your lap in such a way that left me bitter and vengeful.

“What you don't know, because it's never really had cause to come up, is that the other player was embraced, made into a role model, and raised to the level of co-ruler of Equestria. At that point in time Princess Luna was still serving her sibling-enforced thousand year prison sentence on the moon and Princess Twilight hadn't even started on the path that would eventually lead to her position, so this pony was second only to Celestia in terms of both her power and her position as a national exemplar all Equestrians were encouraged to emulate.

“This Princess of 'Love',” Sunset's tone and her gesture of finger quotes were enough to let Principal Celestia know that Sunset considered the term to apply to something more physical and less emotional than the word implied, “spent the intervening time planning to reproduce the original event point for point by intentionally replicating every accident, every misstep, and every bad decision, and then push the reproduction far further than the original had gone. It is not an exaggeration to say that she worked to figure out any and all ways to make the participants of the second event more drunk, more high, and more horny for years.”

Now even more people were looking at Sunset in shock. Whatever, this was just the preamble.

“I remind you that this pony was chosen to be co-ruler and role-model for the entire country.

“When I learned that there was nothing I could do to stop the second event, which was much more potent, I attempted to at least make sure it broke as few laws as possible. It was in the course of this second event, personally planed and overseen by the Princess of Love, that the Drunken Sex Party was created,” by accident, but Sunset wasn't going to say that; it was better to stick to a conspiratorial tone. “And when I had fully returned to my senses the only reason I didn't disband the DSP or drop out of the race for Prime Minster was because I had been assured, by the Princess of Love, that the other candidates were bad choices who would be terrible for the country, with the only silver lining should either win being that Princess Celestia would be able to use her position as undisputed God-Ruler to limit the power of the democratically elected government.”

Principal Celestia shot a questioning look at Princess Celestia and the casual affirmation from the Princess did not seem to put the Principal at ease.

That was good. What wasn't good was that the Principal wasn't caught off guard enough for her to continue her silence.

“So you're claiming you were railroaded by this Princess of Love?” the Principal asked with all appropriate skepticism.

“While it certainly is tempting to blame this all on Cadance,” Sunset said, noting that the human versions of Celestia and Luna were both shocked enough to ensure neither would be interrupting soon, “especially given that creating inter-dimensional couplings would be the next logical step for her and that the corresponding implication of Crystal Prep would dilute the blame aimed at Canterlot, I am not blaming anything on Cadance, Princess of Love.

“I instead propose that the blame be laid at the hooves of the one who was encouraging her, enabling her, and pulling her strings the entire time,” Sunset said.

And there it was, every pony-born individual in the room was looking at her slack-jawed. Including the one she just set up for the fall.

“I know that from a human perspective it's hard to believe such manipulation can be pulled off, but I would remind you that she is a literal god who is responsible for the very existence of most of the people in this room. She set up a thousand year plan that ended with Twilight Sparkle meeting Pinkie Pie, Applejack, Rainbow Dash, Rarity, and Fluttershy in a single day –a very specific day– making friends with them all in record time, going to a specific place the following night, and magically defeating Luna in a certain way at that place. The plan went off without a hitch.

“A thousand years, that's some fifty generations,” technically fifty human generations, and the 'twenty years to a generation' standard was under a lot of well deserved fire, but why get bogged down in technicalities, “meaning the plan was put in place forty-nine generations before any of them were born, and yet, somehow, a thousand years later the exact ponies she wanted were in the exact place she wanted doing the exact thing she wanted.

“Even I was a part of this long game, a test subject to see what would –and rather notably what wouldn't– work when it came to the grooming of Twilight Sparkle. It's no accident that Twilight comes near Sunset and Sparkles tend to Shimmer. The mind boggling eugenics and indoctrination program made me as close a facsimile of the intended element bearer as possible, right down to my name.” Ok, this was probably complete bullshit. But in the end she had served as a prototype, intentional or not, for Twilight.

“The six human teenagers are no doubt a result of the parallel entanglement property of the two universes. Otherwise how could one explain them appearing here when they were only a result of her scheming there?

“Anyway, is it so hard to believe that the eugenics and manipulation continued to the fifty first generation instead of stopping at the fiftieth?”

Spouting absurd nonsense was a good way to keep everyone too off balance to respond, and it wasn't as if the nonsense served no purpose.

“She dumped me in your lap and encouraged you to keep me here even though we all know I don't belong, all the time guiding Princess Cadance through the steps that would lead to the creation of, continued existence of, and majority rule by a political party led by her hand picked student,” Sunset pointed at herself, “and whose members,” Sunset pointed to the pregnant Applejack and the presumed 'fathers' of the the human pregnancies, “would give birth to a new breed of foal and child, unlike any seen before in either universe, and finally yield an heir to the throne,” Sunset gestured to Princess Luna, “thus removing the key component of every assassination attempt or kidnapping plan aimed at her in well over a thousand years: the belief that without a clear successor Equestria would be thrown into turmoil by the removal of Princess Celestia or, when she deigned to allow her sister to share power, the removal of Princesses Celestia and Luna.

“At every key point of this entire mess, Celestia was there encouraging it to continue. From when she chose Cadance, the one Tartarus-- sorry, Hellbent on on repeating and surpassing the largest drunken stoned orgy in the history of Equestria as exemplar for all Equestrians, to when she drove me into your world, to when she basically walked Cadance through the planning and execution of the event that created the DSP, to when she encouraged you to allow me to stay here, and me to continue to come here, when it would have been far more reasonable for me to leave school here and concentrate on my job as Prime Minster in Equestria, to when she allowed six human teenagers to come join the Drunken Sex Party in Equestria.

“As Prime Minster my powers are limited. It's not like I could issue a decree that Princess Luna should let the element bearers from two universes, along with the only individual shaped by spending years in both universes, try to impregnate her.

“Only one person, pony or otherwise, outranks Princess Luna. I wasn't in charge of what happened, Luna wasn't in charge, this all happened under Princess Celestia's oversight, and the consequences –good and bad alike– are her responsibility.

“That is absu–” Princess Celestia started to say.

“Of course you can't say any of that to the school-board,” Sunset said, and took a small joy in cutting the Princess off. She had a little bit more satisfaction with the fact that Princess Celestia couldn't interrupt her again without making everything a massive waste of time by allowing the rambling speech but preventing her from reaching the actual point. “But what you can do is present them with this woman who looks just like you and tell them that the entire time your students were acting irresponsibly they were under her power she was calling herself 'Celestia'.

“It's entirely true. We were her responsibility, we were under her rule, and she certainly was calling herself 'Celestia'.

“If the school-board happens to jump to the conclusion that we were tricked into thinking she was the real Principal Celestia and taken advantage of, instead of recognizing that we were all part of one of her numerous Rube-Goldberg-like long schemes . . . well that's their problem.

“The key point is that they learn, by seeing with their own eyes, that you weren't the one being irresponsible with the students in your care. It was this other woman who was calling herself by your name. So much the better if Princess Cadance shows up and corroborates the fact.”

Cadance would be happy to help, and the key point really had nothing to do with the conspiracy theory.

It had everything to do building up the idea of Princess Celestia as an all powerful ruler, whom her subjects looked to in the way that 'everything happens for a reason' people in this world looked up to their God, thus emphasizing the power she wielded that made her ultimately responsible, while also pointing out that she wasn't above micromanaging the relationships of her subjects, thus making her lack of intervention appear as a choice rather than an oversight.

“No one can blame you for not anticipating the arrival of an irresponsible person who looks and sounds just like you, and given that she used the same name too . . . well, how could anyone see that coming?” Easily, but the answer didn't somehow invalidate rhetorical effect of asking the question.

“Are you quite finished?” Princess Celestia asked.

“Ye-- wait, no, one more thing,” Sunset said to the Princess. To the Principal she said, “When she,” Sunset pointed to Princess Celestia, “disappears off the face of the earth before anyone can try to bring her to account for what happened it'll just make her look guilty and you look innocent.

“You don't get punished for other people being irresponsible, no one gets punished at all. You keep on doing your job with your reputation untarnished and when the Twilights and I do make breakthroughs that will bring prestige and funding to the school we'll make sure it can't be tied to the mess that happened in Equestria.

“Now I'm finished.”

“It is absurd to think that I planned all of this out as part of some kind of centuries long eugenics program.”

“So you weren't planning on having the element bearers free your sister from the force that had overtaken her, clouded her judgment, and filled her with hate?” Sunset asked. “That's even colder than sentencing her to a thousand years of solitary confinement for the crime of saying that the night is pretty too.”

Celestia was probably going to kill Sunset, but she wouldn't do it right this moment, and Sunset was getting caught up in the feeling of being in complete control of a situation for the first time since she was hit by a rainbow at the Fall Formal.

“Of course I was planning–”

“A thousand year scheme that relied on getting six ponies who weren't even close to born yet–”

“That's completely misrepresenting–”

“STOP!” Principal Celestia shouted.

They did.

“As Princess you are superior to the Prime Minister, are you not?”

“That is neither here nor there,” Princess Celestia said. “The sexual antics of Equestria's Prime Minster are not my concern.”

“Even when they include your citizens bedding the entire delegation from another country?”

And Sunset had won this round. Granted it was the only round she'd ever win, granted going against the Princess like this could probably be interpreted as some form of treason or other, granted her future probably included a nice long trip to Tartarus, granted she'd just destroyed her entire life as she knew it, but just this once she'd won. She'd won because the only one who could beat Celestia was Celestia and that was where this was about to go.

The Princess seemed to be carefully considering her response. That was a mistake.

“Hell, let's not think of this in political terms,” Principal Celestia said. ”Sunset Shimmer is my student. You're undeniably the closest thing she has to a legal guardian. When were you planning on telling me that she spent her time at home drunk, stoned, and having sex with your sister?”

Principal Celestia paused long enough for the Princess to think she'd have an opportunity to speak, but not long enough for her to actually speak. Sunset loved that move.

“Don't you think that it would have been a good idea to warn me, before I authorized an extended school-sanctioned sleepover in your home, that you, your sister, and your niece had turned that home into a den of drugs, alcohol and wanton sex?

“Or would you like to go back to the political ramifications of inviting a bunch of teenage girls into your country just so that a member of your royalty, who is almost unimaginably older than all of them combined, could bed each and every one of them?

“Or perhaps some middle ground between the political and the personal? We're both leaders of our respective institutions and while Sunset Shimmer may be highly placed in both she's in charge of neither. I'm in charge of Canterlot High, you're in charge of Equestria, and when I authorized seven of my students to briefly transfer from the former to the latter as part of a good faith visitation program you took those students, some of my best, and put them in an environment where they'd get high, drunk, laid, and --in 42.8% of cases-- pregnant.”

“They made their own choices,” Princess Celstia said, her perpetual calm fraying a bit.

“They were your responsibility!” Principal Celestia fired back.

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The Lunas led the others out of the room as soon as they were sure the two Celestias were too caught up to notice anything but each other.

Sunset's mood dampened when the thrill of finally winning faded and what remained was that she'd pissed of Princess Celestia again, and this time hiding in another universe might not be enough to save her.

“I'm doomed,” she mumbled.

“Perhaps,” Princess Luna said, “but bear in mind that you will have three princesses on your side.”

“I'm not convinced I am on her side,” the Equestrian Twilight said. “What possessed you to blame Princess Celestia in the first place?”

“If we want to identify one person as the most responsible she's the only logical choice, she does have a history of making extremely convoluted plans that somehow manage to work out how she intended in spite of all logic and reason stating that they shouldn't, her embrace of Cadance and rejection of me after the original –non-political– drunken sex party was pretty damning given our respective attitudes toward it and reactions to it, and by having the one to take the fall be Principal Celestia's double everything can be blamed on the double instead of the Principal because there's no way to prove that any given piece of evidence points to the Principal instead of the double,” Sunset said. “The fact that her double happens to be Princess Celestia who was sole ruler of Equestria for almost a thousand years is really a non-issue. Besides, it did happen on her watch.”

“All of this is very interesting, I'm sure,” Vice Principal Luna said, “but in the event you're not as quite as doomed as you think you are, Sunset, I was wondering if we could talk about the future.”

And Sunset was at a complete loss: “Um . . .”

“Like my sister said, one week until the end of the school year,” Luna continued. “I've been thinking about what I'll do over vacation and I was wondering, Prime Minister Sunset Shimmer, if you would allow me to visit your delightful country.”

Most of the students, and the Equestrian Twilight, shot disbelieving looks at Vice Principal Luna.

“I don't know that I'll be allowed to make those kinds of decisions going forward,” Sunset said.

“Given that in some senses she is the same as myself,” Princess Luna said, “fairness dictates that I recuse myself from such a decision. My sister and niece would be morally obliged take the same course of action, for similar reasons. It is not unreasonable to assume that the end result would be the decision being delegated to Equestria's Prime Minster.”

“If that should come to pass,” Sunset said to Vice Principal Luna, “I'd be overjoyed to welcome you to Equestria.”

Sunset glanced at the Rarities, then refocused on Vice Principal Luna and said, hopefully too quietly for the Rarities to hear, “Wait, you aren't planning on having sex with,” Sunset pointed a Princess Luna, “yourself, are you?”

“I'm sure the DSP offers many opportunities entirely unrelated to the royal family,” Vice Principal Luna said reassuringly.

Comments ( 33 )

Snerks, "Somehow I can't see this working, but wholly crap it was funny to watch. Two thumbs up... uhh, hooves.... something."

Oh dear. Oh dear, oh dear, oh dear...

The first section is an elongated story description, not an introduction. Firthermore, it spoils everything to come. After that, you manage to work in a second recap of the previous stories, which is so much filler. Then you fill the rest of the story with telly, long-winded prose both in and out of the dialogue, sounding stilted and unnatural in both. And then...

She had a little bit more satisfaction with the fact that Princess Celestia couldn't interrupt her again without making everything a massive waste of time by allowing the rambling speech but preventing her from reaching the actual point.

Why exactly would that stop Celestia? Cutting off your opponent after she's had that much time to make her point while still failing to do so is a devastating move. This is emblematic of the artifically asymmetrical argument that takes up the majority of the story. Sunset wins not because of her own cleverness, but because you let her win.

This is a sequel to a series whose stock in trade is ludicrous, hilarious escalation spiralling into delightfully ridiculous punchlines. It does not follow suit in any of these regards. You definitely have a strong sense of what you want to see in a story; now you need the storytelling chops to make that happen without so nakedly shoving the advantage into one corner. That can only be done with practice and experience. In other words, keep writing! I'm sure you'll improve with time.

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The first section is an elongated story description, not an introduction. Firthermore, it spoils everything to come.

Yup. Probably an object lesson in why you shouldn't have a classicist adapt a comment into a story. It's no accident that the first nine lines of the Odyssey spoil the entire story in detail, it's a style. Then again, if I'd studied Shakespeare instead that would have taught me to open with the spoiling in-story summary, and Shakespeare is really damned recent.

As for where "adapt[ing] a comment" comes in, it made sense to have an introduction the comment since a comment doesn't have a separate story description. But the invocation doesn't work as a stand alone story description because it assumes that the reader is completely up to date on the entire DSP universe, which isn't necessarily the case. Obviously I could have dropped it, but that's where we go back to classicist.

Just be happy that I didn't have the fact that I'm also a mathematician on display. Could you imagine if I'd had Sunset deliver a formal proof?

Why exactly would that stop Celestia? Cutting off your opponent after she's had that much time to make her point while still failing to do so is a devastating move.

That depends on the situation and your desired endgame. They're not in a debate, they're sure as Hell not flyting (though it would be epic if someone did write a Lokasenna-esque work where these characters were all sniping at each other around a giant feasting table), they're not trying to sway the masses to their cause. They are in a meeting called by Principal Celestia and Sunset's entire rambling takes the form of presenting a plan of action to that specific constituency of one.

She said at the outset that she'd tell why the plan should be adopted before she got to how it should be implemented, and indicated that the "Why" section would be unedited and thus rather longer. If she gets cut off when switching gears from "Why" to "How" that doesn't make her look bad. She wouldn't be assumed to be able to psychically know not only that someone would interrupt her but also exactly what would happen.

On the other hand, the person cutting her off (in this case Princess Celestia) knows very well that they are cutting her off. They're assumed to be responsible for the consequences of that action by default. The only way that this isn't making all of the time Sunset spent speaking a waste of time is if cutting her off takes the form of "Get to the point!" but that would be redundant since Sunset just said she was getting to the point.

If the Princess prevents Sunset from saying the "How" after letting her go on so long about the "Why" then she, not Sunset, is the one who made the time spent on the "Why" a waste of the Principal's time.

Plus, letting someone talk and talk they're about to start the conclusion and then stopping them before they can say it is generally considered a sort of assholic thing to do. If you're not going to let them finish, you don't wait until they get in spitting distance of the finish line and then stop them there as a surprise move, you stop them rather sooner. Maybe before they get out of the starting gates, because that saves time and doesn't let them think they'll be allowed to finish.

Sunset wins not because of her own cleverness, but because you let her win.

The original comment had a note to that effect, actually. I agree that several of the characters are out of character by virtue of staying silent. There are, after all, seventeen people crammed into the room. The thing is, look at how many author's notes there are. I didn't think it needed one more.

Though I will point out that it is possible to render people speechless by being sufficiently absurd. In truth, though, it would probably take a lot more than, "Princess Celestia is promoting drunken stoned orgies as part of a convoluted plot to make inter-dimensional babies!" to pull off silencing the various personalities in the room.

The point, recall, wasn't to convince the Principal to believe all of the stuff Sunset was spewing, if that were the case then Sunset could have stuck to the verifiable non-BS and done a reasonable job. Of course, if she had tried to point a calm, well reasoned, coherent argument then she wouldn't be able to count on the sheer absurdity of things shocking people into silence.

But, yeah, realistically she shouldn't be getting this much solo speaking time without having to put significantly more work into keeping everyone else too off balance to form a response.

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Heyas! For what it's worth, I think the idea is pretty funny. Blame Princess Celestia for everything! I read the original comment, but didn't comment on it myself because I was on my phone and my phone sucks for doing stuff on FIMfiction, and I forgot when I got home later (been crazy busy this week catching up on classes).

I don't want to tell people how to write their stories, but if I might make a suggestion: take out the bit starting "Invocation" all the way to "Naturally, it didn't happen in Equestria.", because it's very different from the rest of the story and is a just recap of what you already covered in the Author note. It worked fine when your story was a comment, but doesn't work so well when published as a story. Start with "That the farm pony Applejack...", which (honestly) is where your story actually begins. Also so you don't spoil your own story. If you like, you can have another character call Sunset out on totally fast-talking her way out of trouble later on (I like Applejack for this role) and Sunset admitting that this is the first time she actually had the opportunity to do so.

You can keep the Author Note at the top. Normally I don't recommend having an A/N right at the beginning, but your story does kind of require reading PrincessColumbia's to first understand. You might want to spoiler-tag the summary of our stories, for those who want to go read them.

Of course, since this is your story, not mine, you don't have to listen to my silly suggestions.

Lastly, you really ought to have told me that you were publishing this - I don't mind if you don't, but if you did, I could have told all my readers about it! People who favorite the original story only get a notification if a sequel is written by the original author. If you told me, I could have made a blog post and your story could have had a bunch more views!

I don't want to jump the gun in case you don't want that extra attention, but if you like, I can still make that blog post and tell people about your story.

Cheers for your first story, and keep writing!

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If you think it's worth promoting, then definitely promote it.

As for the invocation, yeah, my tastes are way old fashioned (say about 700 BCE) and I could tell it wasn't working but went ahead with it anyway. I'll get rid of it.

And thank you very much for saying something. May sound silly, but one of my greatest fears is writing to the void. Comments let me know that people are actually reading. Views tell me how many people came to the page, comments tell me that people actually read the thing and had some kind of reaction.

Another great addition to the DSP series. Totally needs another sequel! :rainbowlaugh:

Brilliant!!

Also wall oh text discussions. Insert God kills a cat girl, reality, anime characters moment here.

I love this. Literally blame her sister/mentor/God-Empress.

Okay, this was hilarious and awesome at the same time, and that ending was priceless!

Ya know, moral implications of wanting to bang your students very soon after they graduate and cease actually being your students aside, I can't really blame VP Luna for wanting to get with Sunset after witnessing that masterful act of fast-talking, maneuvering, and subterfuge!


Edit: also how long before there's another story/comment on THIS one and we continue further down this rabbit hole of madness and drunken sex?

Sunset at the start of this story.


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OH GOD! Please, PLEASE keep this going! :rainbowlaugh: :rainbowlaugh: :rainbowlaugh:

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I totally take all the blame. All of it! I'll hoard it until they find it in one of my abandoned lairs with a family of racoons living in it!

...that went off the rails a bit.

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Totally needs another sequel!

Well . . .

also how long before there's another story/comment on THIS one and we continue further down this rabbit hole of madness and drunken sex?

Somebody get on it already.

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Somebody get on it already.

I would try but I already have too many projects on my slate. :twilightblush:

If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with bullshit.

Congrats. That is literally the only time I have come across a "parlor scene" that both made perfect and almost no sense.

You know after reading this again for the....5th or 6th time, I still want to see a sequel to this. Particularly, I want to know what is going to happen between the baby daddies and baby mommas when the blessed day arrives for them to give birth to their precious bundles of crossbreeded joy. I also would like to know how many of these children will be born with naturally occurring actual pony ears and tails.

I'm almost tempted to add my own two cents to this delightful universe. But, I think I want to see what the rest of you who have added to this might come up with.

That was the most ridiculously convoluted thing I’ve ever read and you must be a genius to have come up with it.

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A genius... Or a politician...

*squints suspiciously*

more please and i want it to be true that the celestia is to blame for every thing i love it

Ok, this was probably complete bullshit.

Pretty much how I felt about trying to slog through this mess. I'll be honest; this is how you kill a joke.

There's this joke, it's about a guy who wakes up after getting wasted the night before. He's making breakfast when the cops start pounding on his door. He asks the kids sitting at the table what the cops want...then remembers he doesn't HAVE kids.

The joke ENDS there. That's what makes it FUNNY. If you think too hard about it or keep on going with this guy trying not to go to prison for the rest of his life, it kind of stops being funny.

That's what this is. You've overtold the joke. You added stuff to the end of a joke which was told PERFECTLY, and your additions are just a rambling, unfunny mess with no sense of pacing, timing, or frankly humor.

I'm not even sure this should have a Comedy tag, honestly.

Sorry, this just didn't do whatever you meant it to.

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This might just be personal preference but the story made me laugh quite a bit, thus I hope that the author ignores you

This needs more! I say Discord wants Sunset as his daughter.

Not as funny as what came before, but still worth the read.

Sunset Shimmer confirmed to be a great devil's advocate as well as one of the biggest bullshitters among Equestia and the human world.

I didn't think I'd ever see a follow-up to that story, as the potential to continue in the same tone seemed to me to be killed by the multiple pregnancies (which don't really need to just be a final punch line, but do make it hard to continue the theme of Sunset's bad decisions skating into mostly positive consequences). I am impressed.

More monologue than I'd like, but it's probably necessary. It's extremely hard to be succinct while also saying different but important things to multiple people, even more so while you have to constantly note the relative speciousness of everything you're saying. Sure, this is an argument Princess Celestia could readily win, but she's got very little real reason to beyond conversational reflex, and she's being reminded on one hoof her sister's happier these days at the same time as on another hoof that in this continuity there's a lot from Cadance that very much happened on her watch and the differences from canon make her treatment of Sunset rather worse. (Depending how much of the original Sporktacles we're going with about the history between Sunset and Celestia, there's potentially some nasty subtext buried in there Sunset might not even be aware of yet.) And presuming the PM job involves managing as much noble-wrangling as I'd presume, merely being able to improvise this monologue in itself represents an argument to take the option which keeps Sunset around and enabled.

Principal Celestia probably would be inclined to blame her counterpart a good deal even if the entire story was honestly yet fully laid out. And she's a Celestia. If she can get what she needs with adequate assurance she's not doing an actually bad thing... And while there really ought to be any number of conversational triggers right now for the other occupants of the room (as presented in the preceding story), they're mostly avoidable simply by staying away from any of the details of what actually happened that night - just what conclusions will be shared about the events. Princess Twilight really should be all over Sunset's speech, although there are also people there who'd reasonably be restraining her. And I could believe she's either too hung over to promptly respond and/or still dwelling on something really embarrassing or revealing which happened, thus distracted. Everyone else... has their own issues right now to be focused on. I can believe there's a lot of comedic potential in exploring just what those are, just like there are any number of outside events which could break the monologue up, but until the basic point is addressed about how we're going to make the multiple pregnancies in the room at least a plausibly long-term okay thing, going anywhere else feels like derailment.

Impressed. Really.

I love it! I want MORE of the DSP AU!

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I'm honestly amazed by how many people like this.

When I wrote it, which wasn't as a story in itself but instead a comment fic, I expected the response, if any, to be far more along the lines of what MythrilMoth said here than anything positive. I definitely wasn't expecting people to encourage me to post it as its own story, and when I did I figured that the positivity bubble would burst and the response would be almost universally negative.

Instead it's still getting support.


I have actually thought about writing a new installment, but I don't think I can sustain it. The idea would be to have it set in the aftermath of the MLP movie (so you can see how old the idea is), take place in Equestria, and have Cadence respond to an existential threat to Equestria with a plan that amounted to:

  1. Grab Sunset
  2. Crash anti-Equestria Summit
  3. Reveal she's brought canabis
  4. Let the magic happen, and watch as the situation resolves itself

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Quite possibly because I never put a story into a group until last Monday, and I left it at just the one story in just the one group until today. I'm not sure whether or not I'm going to try to actually go through my stories and put them all in the relevant groups. This only went in today because I was putting my new story somewhere it belonged (Sunset Shimmer group, comedy folder) and this also happens to belong there.

This was amusing. Not quite as utterly mad as the other entries in the 'verse, but amusing nonetheless.

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