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7899646
Click the picture in this story! Its great!
Read it. Liked it.
A little too fast at the beginning, but nice enough. I like that you leave it up in the air how dark this is. I also liked the banter, with the exception of one very ooc line from Twilight, but its a porn story and it's maybe a mind controlled Twilight, so who knows how she's supposed to act.
All in all pretty good.
7899797
clearly they cast mind control spells on each other, as is tradition between kinky mages with social anxiety.
As a matter of fact I have. We were on a blind date. Unfortunately, she never returns my calls. Says I'm too creepy.
Sorry. I couldn't help myself
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7900011 It's not mind control so much as a magical freeing of inhibitions. Bit like being drunk without the dulled mind or hangover.
Hah, delightfully ambiguous.
7900217
eh, same deal. point being, if both mages are socially stunted, then the only way they would feel comfortable with letting their libido come into the light would be through objective affirmation of mutual inhibition loss through magic spells.
that way. there is no worrying about trust or awkwardness.
7899646
On DeviantArt
With a picture like that, I reckon it needs a dark tag. In lieu of that, I will simply leave my dislike and move on.
7900763 Gotta love baseless dislikes!
I wonder what will happen on the next morning...
7901586
That depends on what you define 'baseless' as. I see, in the picture, a Twilight who is very much unwilling and not okay with what Moondancer is doing to her. That, combined with the author's warning, puts me off and makes me unwilling to read, and willing to condemn. I believe that is a valid basis for a downvote,
7901686 I don't. You downvoted based on context. You didn't read the story. The vote system is to determine if a story is 'good' or not. Leaving a dislike on preference does nothing but hurt the author's story and bring its rank down, which could drive away possible readers who may actually be interested with the story's context, but stray away thinking it to be of poor quality.
I've seen a-plenty of stories that are very well-written with either equal or above dislike to like ratios that got that way purely on context alone.
7901699
Then we disagree on the use of the system. I very much hope it hurts the author's story when I leave a dislike (It doesn't, really) because I am of the belief that there are stories that should not exist. This story in particular would not have gotten a dislike from me if it wasn't so ambiguous as to its content, but alas.
7901717
You're observant.
Well; you win I suppose. Since there aren't any official guidelines on how to use the system, its up to the users interpretation.
7901717
I like some of your stories. I've even favorited a few. But this is alarming. Some stories shouldn't exist? I get that it's your belief and all, but damn. I would say I have no words but I honestly do.
Stories have a long and fabled history of being fucked up reflections of humanity. From the earliest tales passed down through oral tradition to ancient legends that became the basis for pantheons and mythos throughout the ages, stories have been dark. They've been twisted tales of warning, words of wisdom, funny vignettes, erotic adventures, and tragic epics since at least 1200BC. The Iliad, Paradise Lost, Shakespeare's Sonnets, and Lolita, are considered literary classics that have helped us understand entire cultures and would likely fall under your definition of "should not exist." Humanity is ugly, so you want to smash the mirror? Really? That's your solution? As an author and an avid reader I am utterly appalled.
I'm not saying this piece is a literary classic, or that future generations are going to use it to understand us, but I am saying it could have value to somebody. I understand it might not have value to you, and that's just fine—downvote away. But never say, or imply, it shouldn't exist. Somebody spent time, effort, thought, energy, and at least a little bit of love on this. By telling them it "Should not exist" you're telling them that a part of them should not exist. Let me clarify why that is fucked up in a way that might make more sense.
Many of your stories touch on same sex relationships, and to many people that's offensive and considered corruption. In many countries, writing about something like that could send you to jail! I think we both agree that's backwards, but the point is that some people would be deeply offended by even your light hearted stories. They might feel like your stories shouldn't exist, and that you are harming people by writing them. Does it feel like you're harming people with your stories? I don't believe you are, personally, but that part of you that thinks this is okay "should not exist" to these people. That part of you that is okay with same sex relationships is just as, if not more, abhorrent to them than the honestly playful content in this story.
So should that part of you not exist? Should your stories not exist because entire cultures find them destructive?
I don't think so. I think there is room for your light hearted stories and room for the dark twisted pieces around the internet as well. More than that, I think they are necessary. I would love to live in a world where they look back and think "How barbaric! How could they even imagine such obscenities!" but I don't. I see and have seen terrible, awful things for years in real life. And probably will for at least a few more years. My stories are merely a reflection of my mind. I sometimes wish it wasn't as fucked up as it is, but it is. I have seen some shit, and writing different shit is one of the ways I cope. I sometimes mention that my stories are psychic vomit. Well, let me throw another word out for what I mean.
They are therapy.
If dark and terrible stories could never exist, I could never feel better. I would have these demons in my head and they would drive me insane. Instead, I throw them down and let them run around on the internet. It's soothing being able to see that I'm not the only one, that other people are fucked up like me. These stories need to exist for people like me who have no other avenue, and finding them is crucial for people who think that they are alone and cannot afford the same tools I can. The same is true for your stories. There arre people that need stories like that to know that they are not alone, that they are normal. People that might feel one way or another, be it love, hate, disgust, or any other human emotion that is hard to discuss, can find solace in our stories. Just because the characters are experiencing wicked things doesn't mean the story itself is wicked.
I do agree that every story is not for everybody. What I call therapy others might call a "trigger". It's the same thing for more physical therapy techniques. One person getting treated for arachnophobia gets exposed to spiders as part for theirtreatment, another does not. Every human being is vastly different, and that is what makes us beautiful. Aside from one recent experiment, I don't make any effort to really market my things; people looking for them will find them. Proper tagging is important, and I think this story is properly tagged.
Do you honestly feel that stories shouldn't exist? I postulate that stories could be better tagged, better written, and more accurately advertised, but should absolutely exist. Do you disagree?
If you do not, can you help with that venture?
If you do, I'm curious as to your justification for the "should" in "Should not exist." As you are an author, I assume it's not baseless. Your stories are well constructed, so I assume your thoughts to be similarly so.
I also feel the same way about art, but am less personally invested in it.
ambion... I'm sorry I vomited all over your story page. I'll delete it if you want me to. I'm just livid that somebody implied this story "Should not exist." I think it's pretty good for what it is. I wouldn't call it excellent, but it's more than enough to be entertaining and certainly fulfills its purpose as a short bit of pornographic distraction from real life. This story has no dark tag, and doesn't need one. It's only dark to people with already dark minds.
7902446 I think it's fair to say that some things probably shouldn't be published. The problem is when you try to say something can't be published.
Here's the thing. There's a lot of stories on this site I find personally distasteful, and I'd rather they not be published at all, because just seeing them makes me cringe. And I have every right to publicly proclaim that I don't like a thing, and I wish I'd never seen it, and that I kinda wish no one else had to see it either. My saying that does not remove the story, it doesn't keep any other user from enjoying it, it's an opinion. In your long comment, you seem to be saying that I don't have the right to that opinion, and shouldn't state it. I'm sorry, but you're wrong.
So yeah, while I don't have a special problem with this one, I can understand the sentiment. I'm pretty sure if you think hard enough you'll think of one or two stories you really wish you'd never seen, too.
7902693
I'd like to clarify something. I never said they were wrong, merely that I disagreed with them and thought that posting that is fucked up. I also used reasons for explaining why I felt that way. Additionally, I asked them to think about my reasons, and see if that influenced their beliefs. I doubt it did/will, I know how internet arguments go. However, I am fully allowed/right to disagree and state my reasons, just as you are fully allowed to disagree with me. Everybody has their right, and that was never something I wanted to contest.
I agree that it's dangerous to say some things can't be published. As for the rest, I have some alternative facts.
I fully believe in your right to state your opinions. I am not saying that they "shouldn't" state an opinion. I don't believe in "should". I think the word "should" is silly. Who am I to mandate an individuals behavior? What I am saying is that the opinion is/can be potentially dangerous, so I want to ensure they know what they are saying and implying. I'm not telling them to stop, or even suggesting it. People are allowed to wield weapons and I'd never try to take that away from them. I just want them to understand the gravity of their words. Even at the end, I end with the statement that if they disagree I'd like to know why. They have reasons, just as you do, and just as I do. And I'm always curious and willing to learn.
As far as stories, well... not really actually. I've read stories that made me sick to my stomach, that left me in a cold sweat, that left me confused, or even a few that have felt painful to read. The worst are those that I feel like wasted my time. But I don't regret reading them. For example, what got me started writing on this site was the fic In the Chapel (NSFW/LIFE/YOURTIME). It was awful from every single angle. (It got a minor overhaul at some point, but it's still bad) I read that, and thought "Fuck. I can do way better than that." That awful thing became the inspiration for my most popular story. I looked at it and learned. Every bad experience is an opportunity for me to learn, and I never step down from that or regret it. So... no. I'm not going to say your wrong, but I am going to disagree with you about my experiences. I have not regretted reading a single story on this site.
On that track, I feel like stories could always be better, but some moreso than others. The only stories I feel that "should" not be published, are things that don't work as a story. But that's due to the author not putting in enough effort to make them a story. When things like grammar, structure, and basic narrative get in the way of the story to the point it's unreadable, It's not a story anymore. I don't want to read things like that, and I don't think anybody else does. But if I can't understand it, I don't count it as a story.
I will re-state that not every story is for everybody, and stories absolutely need proper tags/descriptions. If it's well written, somebody wants to read it for some reason. I guarantee it. So why wish to deny those people?
Sorry! Arguing again. I just wanted to clarify what seemed like a misunderstanding. When I get upset I write so much that I confuse people as to what my original intent was.
7903216 Well, I suppose I can understand that. Really, this comes back to a longstanding problem in the functionality of fimfiction: filters. We have all of these lovely tags, but no way to filter them from our view. We can do a search that filters them, but there is no way for me to have say... the gore tag blocked from my view. If we had filters we wouldn't have people leaving dislikes on things they'd normally just have blocked.
That chapter title tho.
7903303
Actually, I think it might be this.
https://youtu.be/6lFxGBB4UGU
And I couldnt be happier.
Edit: Apparently i need to work on my reading comprehension! I missread your comment. Still, this is the title...
I was wondering if this story would prompt a discussion in the comments. That said, the discussion I imagined was not the discussion I got.
Letdown aside, the one I got is still interesting.
7899797 I'm glad you liked it. I wasn't sure I wanted to publish this writing of whimsy at all, but a prereader encouraged me to get off the fence and do it. I'm curious as to which line you find stuck out? I consider writing dialogue a particular weakness of mine, so the oppurtunity to strengthen that is always nice.
7900011 I neither agree nor disagree that this is the truth. I'm simply glad that you've come to your own conclusion about what's happened. That's what I wanted.
7900204 Your hair is crazy enough for two people! And a Best Princess. That's three whole people! She's clearly missing out: you're a keeper.
7900217 I also neither confirm nor deny this position either. These two comments are the root of the discussion I entertained fancies of
Also, hello Steel!
7900343 I'm known to enjoy mind
lessful sex-nanigans, time to time. Glad you liked it.7901618 That is a very good question to ask.
7900763 I'm okay if you don't want to read the story and I appreciate that you've given a reason as to why you felt to leave a dislike. Every story picks up a few mystery downvotes in its existence that nobody claims or explains, so this is already several degrees better. Thank you.
The irony is the dark tag was left off after some deliberation precisely because I did not want to scare away readers on presumptions that the story is darker than it actually is.
Now for the annoyed bit: It's a little feckless of you to reckon you've figured out which tags apply or not over the person who wrote, read, re-read, proofed and discussed the story. If you read the silly thing and still think I've got it wrong, that I can get on board with. That's where informed disagreement happens. As it is, it's just judging a story by the cover art.
I invite you to read - I genuinely am interested to know more of your thoughts and if the story shapes up to be similiar or different to what you expected. Honestly, it's mostly just sex anyway
7902446 I don't want you to delete your comment. We all get incensed over things at times and this comment has your thought, your time and effort. It has value. Your last sentence is most telling: This story has no dark tag, and doesn't need one. It's only dark to people with already dark minds. I'm glad you enjoyed the story, doubly so that you understood that, for being small and abrupt and able to be read entirely read superficially, the story has that bit of a ethics question hidden in the foundation, for those that decide to see it.
7902693 This would be more my stance myself. What can be usually outweighs what should, if we take the wide view. It's a on odd sensation to be on the receiving end, though.
7903231 It's always been a bit lonely on the Settings dropdown, truly.
7903303 I like to feel clever
Especially since it's a little bit of a hint as to what happens.
7903363 You're both right!
7903549
7903231
If you pick a tag and click it so it's on a red background that will filter the tag.
7903549 All thanks to L'Oreal: because I'm worth it.
I'm pretty sure this joke has been overdone
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7904163 I'm aware of how to filter a tag during a search, M. I mean permanently filter a tag so you never see it again.
This is my fetish
Well written, look forward to a reading of this.
7903549
Without going into personals and specifics, I tend to err on the side of caution when a story 'could be' dark. The cover art is, I think, the main problem it very much makes this seem as though it should have a dark tag.
7902446
My perhaps somewhat overly strong reaction aside, by which I mean that this story probably isn't one of those aforementioned stories, yes, I think there are very much things that should not exist. There are things that do nothing but 'break down' people for lack of a better word, spread misinformation and incite hatred. Those thing should not exist, and the world would be a better place without them.
I understand where you're coming from with your comment, but I have to admit I wasn't even really thinking in those terms when I wrote my earlier comment. It had become less about the story and more about defending myself and my position, which, I guess, is a good lesson as to why I shouldn't open my mouth in the cess-pit that is fimfiction.
Worry not, the lesson is learned. Next time I will simply down vote without saying anything.
7903549
Well... Specifically the line "You cheeky bitch!..." just doesn't feel like something Twilight would say, even inebriated. Or mind controlled. But it's not too distracting, and drives the point home that there is *something* going on with her. So maybe it's intentional? Dunno. Everything else seemed fine dialogue wise.
7905290
Please don't avoid commenting. I actually think your initial comment was fine! It stated the reason you downvoted in a non aggressive manner, and provided information to the author. The information was "If you want people like me to read your stories, and not automatically downvote, don't use covers like this." We could spend all day arguing back and forth on if that's a right attitude or not, but the fact remains that there are people out there like that. It might not feel like it, but it IS helpful to post things like that. Most people wont, and every comment is helpful for an author that wants to improve. You got a lot of downvotes because people disagreed with you, not because you were wrong. In fact, the immediate response to that was completely unhelpful as a contribution to the discussion, or as a comment on the story. I downvoted that one.
Even your response at this point was mostly fine. You explained yourself, and your reasons. You also provided more information. Now it includes the story description. You might have been a little strong "condemning it", but hey. It's your life and your tastes.
The next bit wasn't an attack, but an explanation of how they felt. I thought it was a step in the right direction. They provided information on why they disagreed with you.
Up until this point you were nothing but helpful. After that, you eloquently stated that you had, in fact, intended things as an attack and then said the thing that made me angry. I don't think you understand why it makes me angry, but that's fine. I still don't understand why you feel that way, and likely will not since you don't want to explain.
Anyways, my point was that I think you were fine in your comments and it would be a shame if you avoided commenting because people on the internet got angry. You're never going to see us, so why worry about how wrong we are? And by leaving comments explaining why you didn't like a story, you actually might see more stories that you like, and more to the point, less stories that you don't. Even if your comment got 100 downvotes, somebody who's not posting could have read it and been moved by it.
Disregarding emotion, commenting helpfully can only improve your FIMFiction experience, and maybe make it feel less like a "cess-pit." And why get upset over strangers on the internet?
Hey pot, it's me kettle! I'd love to continue discussing, but I really don't want to gunk up ambion's story page anymore. PM me maybe? I'd love to continue the discussion. Disagreements are how people like me grow!
7905573
In short: Because it impacts me more than it probably should, and that every time I get 'angry people' commenting on my comments, I am a little less willing to remain in this godforsaken world. Thanks for the eloquent responses, but sadly, they are few and far between, and not worth slogging through the shit most people spout.
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dammit moon dancer.
7903751 You inspire me. Not least of all with that musculature.
7905011 Your comment matches your avatar pretty perfectly.
7905048 Thank you
7905290 I wouldn't want you to be silenced - your perspective is worth having. For my own stories - if you ever feel it better for you to message a comment privately, I'd be happy to oblige that. It is frustrating to deal with the mess of things, I respect the struggle.
I think some of the drama in the comments could have been avoided with the use of proper description tags. Not genre tags, those are so up for interpretation that it literally caused part of the whole argument, but actual content tags placed in the description.
As far as I'm concerned every single violent and/or sexual work of fiction should have specific content tags so that people understand what they're getting into. If people understand what they're getting into, the smart ones will just leave and not bother anybody. Some of the dumb ones will read anyway and still leave stupid comments, but I didn't necessarily see that in this case...
For instance, this fic is: F/F, cunnilingus, face-sitting, power play, implied mind-control, non-con. You can even get more specific if you want, "juicy orgasms, minor breath play" etc etc.
Bam, donezo. No vagaries, everybody knows what's gonna be in it. If they don't like F/F, they can leave, if they don't like power play, they can leave, if they don't like MC, they can leave, if they don't like rape, they can leave.
On the more positive side of things, a lot of people that read clop are looking for specific kinds of clop. Putting content tags in your description means that you're going to get views from people that used the search function to look for that kink that they love oh so much. I'm not much for MC myself, but you had an interesting take on it with the continued higher functions and the drunk analogy. Who knows, maybe someone looking to get off on some Mind Control would love that kind of thing, but they won't find it by searching for it because you didn't tag your fic like that.
Tag your fics Mature authors. It'll save you some headache, help your readers, and it takes a minute tops, depending on your fic.
7909315
This whole thing has been a learning experience and your words are really smart. When you put it like that, it all seems very simple. Thanks for weighing in.
7909351
Just remember that you'll never be able to please everybody, and just do the best you can.
Even if you do start using tags, some people will complain that it spoils things (even though it really doesn't), and some people will complain that you don't have "enough" tags (people will find anything to get "triggered" by). The important thing is that you don't actively try and offend people, and it's nice to give reasonable people the option to bail via tags.
Best of luck with it going forward!
I don't real find this a bit dark. Dark for me is like drinking blood and stuff like I hate drinking blood and stuff fanfics like that just no
7910989 There's certainly different flavours of darkness, to be sure.
I wouldn't have thought you had it in you. :O
Is there a sequel?