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Upon seeing Timber Spruce and Twilight hit it up so well, Flash begins to realize that the likelihood of him being with either Twilight was becoming slim to none. Though it pains him, he's ready to give up on her. But, when a certain someone comes and surprises him, he may reconsider.

Set during the ending of Legend of Everfree. Minor spoilers.

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7598068 You're literally everywhere I go on this site and it's amazing.

YES! I needed this after that moment in the movie. I still stand that Sunset was being a jerk to Flash by just telling him to "get over" Twilight, he needs more support than that. I hope Flashlight stay strong, it is way better than Timberlight.

Eh... even as a Flashlight fan, I do kinda see Sunset's point, even if she could have worded it a bit more sympathetically than she did.

Even as you admit in this story, Flash and Twilight basically have everything and the kitchen sink going against their relationship. So, as much as they like each other, it's not very likely they're going to be able to keep any sort of relationship going for an extended length of time, and it's just not healthy to pine for someone you're not going to get.

So, yeah... Flash really should try to get over her. Still, the 'not just yet' idea you've brought up here seems like a good middle ground.

Why am I kinda upset about Sci-Twi and Timber?... am I so much of a SunLight shipper?

Reading this brightened my mood. Thank you :twilightsmile:

While I can understand that Sunset wanted to help, she could've easily just been stabbing him through the heart and twisted the knife.
It was even made worse when Flash reaches out to her and she just runs off. With no follow-up and no closure :fluttercry:

I'm still rooting for him and Twilight, even if the ship is officially all but wrecked at the moment...

I can definitely see this scene as an additional part of the movie.

Well done! :twilightsmile:

this was very bitter sweet. flash deserves to be happy. I do hope that the thing between twilight and timber is just a summer love thing and that she and flash do end up together.

I don't hate timber but I don't think he's right for Twilight

Is it actually established in the movie that Flash understands that Human!Twilight and Princess Twilight are two different people?

Yeah it was. Flash talks to her a little in the beginning of the film and awkwardly says "they don't know each other very well," and he later admits that he shouldn't be jealous that Sci-Twi is attracted to Timber because he knows she isn't "his" Twilight.

7600108 Okay, thanks. Unfortunately, that pretty much kills my idea for how things could be turned around. I really shouldn't be making such a big deal out of this since I already killed that particular ship in one of my own stories (albeit under completely different circumstances), but it really bothers me that so many people are talking about how the FlashLight ship is "officially" sunk because of this, especially since Flash apparently understands that SciTwi is not the same Twilight he likes, and he would technically just be moving on from the former. I know that the FlashLight ship has a lot going against it in-universe, but it is not totally impossible, as several authors such as Darth Link and myself are happy to point out.

Of course, if things really don't work out between them, I would love to see him paired up with Sunset. More than anything, I just want to see him get some development and respect.

On the bright side, what you just told me confirms that everyone's memories of the magic wasn't erased in the movies. I hated how the novelizations tried to make that a thing.

7600007 I haven't seen the movie yet, so I can only agree with you from the point of view of a Sunset/SciTwi shipper. Once I've actually watched it, I'll be able to make a more informed opinion on the matter.

This was good and I really like that you had them bring up the point of if their relation is going to work one would have to give up everything. It's both difficult for Flash to do and near impossible for Twilight.

I have to admit I didn't really like how they handled Flash in the movie. Better than Friendship Games, but I felt the writers we're still low blowing him. I just don't understand why they seem to struggle with the character when they can write a character like Diamond Tiara into a likeable one and flesh out Big Mac in a single episode. But that's a personal grievance for another time.

Kudos to you on an excellent story.


I just don't understand why they seem to struggle with the character when they can write a character like Diamond Tiara into a likeable one and flesh out Big Mac in a single episode.

It's a mystery we all ponder--especially since a lot of us have managed to create a totally awesome profile for him. Oh well, there's always the next movie.


Sadly, I think this comes down to two things: Lack of appreciable want for such a thing, and lack of material to work with.

With Big Macintosh, you have arguably the most popular male character in the show's roster, and one who's been around since literally the beginning of the show. His fanbase probably rivals some of the Mane 6's, and there's even rumors that there always were plans for him to have a larger role or his own episode before he finally got one. There's basically always been a want for him to be fleshed out and he finally was. Flash Sentry, while he does have his fair share of fans (myself included), has never been a hugely popular character and was the subject of quite a lot of hate for some time after the first movie aired. Even then, his inclusion in the story seems almost like an afterthought and has shades of a mandated thing that none of the writers really had all that much interest in, meaning there was never a large amount of want for him to be a major character.

With Diamond Tiara, there's material to work with as to why she's a bully like she is, even if it is a bit on the cliched side, and the show itself really loves its redemption stories. Plus, at this point, there really wasn't much more use they could wring out of her character as a bully, so finally making her sympathetic and friendly toward the CMCs was good for at least one more episode (I really doubt we'll be seeing her or Silver Spoon in a major role again now). With Flash... there simply isn't all that much to work with, I'm afraid. It's why those of us who write him have an easy time fleshing him out; other than his relationship with Princess Twilight, his only real characteristics are 'plays guitar' and 'is kinda a dork'. He's basically only a step above most Background Ponies, and even then it's not a very large step. He really doesn't offer then writers much to work with in terms of contributing to the plot without adding in more traits, which is rather difficult after 4 movies of him being as... well, for lack of a better term, bland as he is.

Would I enjoy seeing Flash getting more fleshed out in canon? Absolutely; hell, I'd just like the guy to catch a freaking break at this point, since it honestly seems like the only canon character who even gives him the time of day is Derpy/Ditzy/Muffins. I just honestly can't get my hope up to high for this happening anymore.

7599073 There is always the 5th EQG movie, so hold on my fellow Flashlight-shipper

7601720 Thanks. I'll try :twilightsmile:

7601767 glad I can help:pinkiehappy:

Flash huffed, "For a little while. Then I realized that she just wasn't the same. She's like you in many ways, and unlike you in a lot, too. And, no offense to her, but I kinda prefer you."

I imagine she feels the same about PONY Flash Sentry.

"Who's Timber?"

I'm sincerely surprised Timber's counter part didn't show up in Equestria and met Princess Twilight.

Personally I felt Flash being told to simply get over Princess Twilight and no one bothering to tell Princess Twilight felt wrong. They should be the ones to decide to say goodbye.

7599073 Assuming I'm remembering the movie right, her running off was tactically the right move (and Sunset tends to think tactically), but it was a bit irksome that it was never followed up on. I was hoping Flash would... well I actually wanna write my own fic on that idea so I don't think I'll let that one out of the bag just yet.

7619861 Yeah... If you were to tell someone to get over a person they like, followed by putting their friendship on hold because of something far more important, you'd at least be considerate enough to remember that someone when things eventually calm down.

7620454 We don't know that she didn't? But the writers apparently didn't think it important enough to mention... That said, I am a fan of... what would their ship name be? Sunflash? Just wish it had been handled better. Sunset was not paying attention at all. For good reason, but Flash didn't know that.

7620467 Good reasons all around, I'll admit that. I just wish they could've done more.

Unless they have something really special planned for him in the next movie (or the next one after that...), I really hope it's a good one. They could at least have him sing one song. He is a musician for crying out loud!

If they decide to green-light the SunFlash (which I find kinda sweet, funny and ironic because it's Sunset) I will have no objections to it. Just as long as it's genuine. Sunset hasn't really shown that she likes him enough to even go that far with him.

And there's still Princess Twilight to consider...

7621305 True. I get the impression that Flash actually did like Sunset back when. Heaven knows why as she was a jerk back then. She did show remorse in Rainbow Rocks over that in particular, but that's not surprising.


I get the impression that Flash actually did like Sunset back when. Heaven knows why as she was a jerk back then.

When she and Flash were dating, I can only assume that he got a "better" treatment, until he realized how bad she treated everyone else and how he was nothing more to her than merely a token boyfriend to make her look good.

7621916 Oh that's right, he broke up with her, didn't he?

...Hmmm... one COULD read Sunset's tone in her denial of liking him as wistfulness as she did have SOME feelings for him. There were other jocks around. Or regret for toying with him of course. Or both.


It's debatable at best. Given that she's a unicorn from Equestria, the odds of her having any actual love for someone of a different species was (and probably still is) pretty slim.

As mentioned, she only dated him to look popular. And smart as she is, she undoubtably sought out one that was both good-looking and whom she could easily manipulate.

We can't really say for certain if she developed anything during that time. But what is certain is that she does have emotions for him now. But is it love, guilt or pity?

7621993 Guilt at minimum.

We don't know how long she was in that world before she started dating him. There's debate as to how attraction works with that form of shape-shifting. Physical responses, at least (as opposed to psychological ones) may alter with form. There are suggestions that this happened to Twilight. I mean Flash barely did anything, compared to what he and Sunset have at this point been through. (It's different for EG Twilight as she really is a teenager: Pony Twilight is mentally a young adult.)

Really good story!^_^

This inspires me to write a story!^_^

Can I use a link to yours in mine? It'd take place sometime after yours when Flash graduates high school and decides to move to Equestria.

Let me know. Thanks!^_^

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