Twilight asks Princess Luna about her recent harsh treatment of Starlight and Trixie.
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Very interesting story , it had good characterization, as well some good dialogue keep on writing .
As bad as Twilight was to Starlight and Trixie she's been a thousand times worse to Discord. If he didn't have skin thicker than tank armor and actually cared what she thought about him it probably would have ruined everything. *beat* Just putting that out there.
And nothing was learned.
I think... this is the first story I've seen since the episode aired that didn't push all the blame on Twilight.
It's a nice change.
I would be interested in seeing what happens in Trixie's dream.
Well done so far.
Great story. Especially when it came to all the Twilight/Starlight talk.
Lovely little story here.
Twilight was REALLY out of character in that episode. I hated her in it, and she's usually my favorite character. She claimed to have forgiven both Trixie and Starlight, but treated them worse than Discord, who's still a jerk 90% of the time. I also wondered "Why did she stop forgiving bad ponies? UNICORN NON-PRINCESS Twilight would have just forgiven them and trusted them like friends". Good story, and glad Luna was the one to show up. After all...if she can't forgive Trixie for some attempts at one-upping her, how could she forgive Nightmare Moon?
Thank you so much for adding this on. I was so hoping to see how that day affected Trixie.
You know... I'm really waiting for a story where the usual dynamic of "Celestia tears into Twilight because she didn't trust smug and antagonising Trixie" is subverted.
This is already nice since it's not so one-sided. But I think one where Twilight fights back against having the blame just put on her would be a welcome change as well.
This was a great read.
Well done.
Good job.
7219425 Correction, Twilight AND her friends (save Fluttershy) treated Discord WORSE than Trixie and Starlight Glimmer. Both Trixie and Discord did less damage than Starlight Glimmer and they still get the evil eye. Starlight Glimmer on the other hand nearly ruined the whole time-space continuum and she's forgiven too easily. She should be in jail. The way that Discord and Trixie are lashed out at for creating misery and that Starlight Glimmer could have done ten times worse and becomes Twilight's student... that's when the series literally stopped making sense. If no one gets that or understands that (heaven forbid you people should read into it a little deeply), then whoever doesn't is living under a rock. I'm sorry, but it's fact that it doesn't make sense. That's how bad it is.
7247089 Do you think the incident where Twilight and her friends (excluding Fluttershy) treated Discord rather poorly would trigger an accusation fic?
7248641 Definitely, but which incident? There's like eightykajillionbillion to choose from.
7248646 I was referring to the mane 6 (minus Fluttershy)'s behaviors and actions from Keep Calm and Flutter On.
7248847 That does warrant an accusation fanfic. In my fanfic "Sunrise", I happen to address this in the early chapters, if you're interested. But what I'm basically saying is EVERY TIME Discord is on screen and those Mane 6 (minus Fluttershy) give them the evil eye, the once over, or sideways glances, whatever they are, every time it happens warrants an accusation fanfic. "Keep Calm and Flutter On" does have Fluttershy openly state to her friends that they're not giving Discord a chance... like, once, I think.
7248858 So does that mean "What about Discord?" is another dishonorable candidate for Accusation fanfics?
7248862 I should think it warrants an accusation fanfic because Twilight was being a dick to Discord. Again. If it's ANY of the Mane 6, minus Fluttershy, it warrants an accusation fanfic, even more so after the Season 5 finale because Starlight Glimmer could have done a million times more damage and she's forgiven far too easily. Yet Discord still gets the "rotten" treatment, last I checked.
Wait a minute. Where does Princess "Tantabus" Luna get off telling anypony to just move past their flaws? She more than anyone should know that character growth is a lie, that ponies are never anything but who they are in their worst moments, and that holding themselves to any kind of standard is futile.
After the season finale, it's become clear that Trixie indeed is still keeping the grudge against Twilight alive, even if Twilight is reaching out to her. I think Trixie did plan to use Starlight against her. I thought that from the beginning, and what happened made it even more likely.
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Agreed, her actions made no sense.
I'm pretty sure that's a lie.
Good choice on adding that second chapter.
It sealed the story.
And Trixie's words cut true.
This is so late, but seeing all these comments makes my blood boil. Sorry y'all but twilight isn't to be blamed here.
Of course I would do what she did. if my friend who wants to make another friend chose (oh so conveniently) to be buddy buddy with someone (UNREPENTANT) who banished me out of my home and away from my friends all because she was jealous I was better than her. Like wow petty much?
It would be worse if Twi acted like that after Trixie actually showed remorse, but since she didn't, what reason do you think Twi would have for trusting her? And SHE WAS RIGHT, as always lol.
I personally wouldn't want MY friend to be friends with a person who is just using them to win against me.
And DISCORD!
Oh boy. Yes flame twilight for not fully trusting an EXTREMELY POWERFUL AND DANGEROUS being of chaos. I seem to recall that every single time twi and discord butt heads, it's always discord as the instigator.
And when they were attempting to reform him, OF COURSE twi would still be cautious of him. Better to be safe than sorry as they say. SOMEONE needs to be the cautious one, and if it had to be her, and if she made herself out to be the villain at the end (as every single episode since starlight came has been doing to her) then it's worth it for the safety of her friends.
"But twilight trusted starlight and took her under her wing when she did worse stuff than discord and Trixie! She's a hypocrite!"
STARLIGHT WAS REPENTANT FOR HER ACTONS, THOSE TWO WEREN'T. and in the case of discord, he's more dangerous than both of them combined ×100. If twilight DIDN'T treat them as the threats to her friends that both of them are, I'd, and literally every single other person, would call her a naive idiot. Which she isn't.
The fandom likes to treat twilight like the infallible, perfect friend, who always has to be smiling and being kind to her friends and enemies even though she shouldn't because she's the princess of friendship.
And when she makes a mistake, even though she has good intentions, and the best interests of her close people in mind, the fandom decides to flame her. It's made even worse with the fact that she's the main character.
(It's Bloom (from winx) hate train all over again.)
But I do seem to remember a certain episode where they very explicitly say (a whole song actually) that they AREN'T perfect.
Twi may be the princess of FRIENDSHIP, but she isn't gonna be everyones friend, and she isn't gonna be the perfect friend all the time either. that's impossible.
Just like how cadence isn't gonna be in love with everyone, even though she's the princess of LOVE.
What matters at the end is that twilight learned a valuable lesson, (to all the people saying she didn't learn anything, YES SHE DID. JUST BECAUSE YOU DONT SEE HER BEGGING TRIXIE AND STARLIGHT FOR FORGIVENESS DOESN'T MEAN SHE DIDN'T LEARN ANYTHING) AND she apologized at the end. Which makes her far better than both Trixie and Discord combined.
"But she nearly drove Trixie to suicide!"
Again, twilight isn't perfect, and no matter how many time pinkie tells you, no, Twilight isn't psychic either. She had no way of knowing what her actions would lead to nearly happening. No hindsight, no nothing.
It's like blaming someone who "snitched" on the person doing something illegal, which lead to them going to jail, and their regret caused them to nearly take drastic measures. See how that doesn't make a lick of sense?
As they say, do the crime, do the time.
Anyway, any accusation fic using this episode as a stomping ground for twilight automatically gets a dislike from me.