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This story is a sequel to Pulse


Celestia betrayed Twilight's trust. Even after begging and demanding Celestia to kill her, Celestia stole Twilight's mortality from her again. Forced to stay alive, and a student under her unwilling tutelage, how will Twilight cope with watching her world die again?

Thanks to SpiritOfDancingFlames for making the cover art, and for helping me in editing the remaster of this fic.

Chapters (7)
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Comments ( 259 )

well....Celestia is a monster....

Another good story once more good sir.

and I like how you left the ending open for the reader to decide. very nice touch.

An excellent read and a good sequel to Pulse.

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well....Celestia is a monster....

Well think about it. Sixty years is a long time to be trying to do what you think is right, only for someone to spit in your face about it every time.

Another good story once more good sir.

Thank you! :twilightsmile:

and I like how you left the ending open for the reader to decide. very nice touch.

I always do that when I can, I find that a lot of my inspiration comes from stories with open ends. It's like giving room for fanfics of fanfics. ...Which I don't really see happening with mine, but just in case. That's why I left Pulse so open ended at the end, and why it's a stand alone story. I didn't want to cement it to this one. So if anyone wanted to use it as a base for a fan fiction, they wouldn't have to deal with my head canon of it. :twilightsheepish:

An excellent read and a good sequel to Pulse.

Thank you, but don't think it's over. At least three or so chapters left in this one.

6954622 yes but trying to force her after one time and her explaining, I can defiantly see why Twi thinks what she does.

as for more chapters all I can say is.

ALRIGHT! SWEET!!!!!!!!

BRING THEM ON!!!!!!!!!!

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I mean, can you truly say that Celestia is a monster though? Her intentions are (at least when they started were) Good! But the whole quote about roads and Hells being paved by good intentions... It's like... Seeing your daughter and her begging you to kill her, could you do that?

Not to say I'm pleading her innocence. I'm not picking a side here. It's meant to be morally ambiguous.

as for more chapters all I can say is.
ALRIGHT! SWEET!!!!!!!!
BRING THEM ON!!!!!!!!!!

Will do! :rainbowdetermined2:

6954644 I know she started out fine, but it soon was twisted into a thing of darkness.

At first she wasn't a monster but she became one.

that comment was more towards what she did near the end there.

6954674 Oh yeah, I'm not saying that she's a fluffy ball of goodness and rainbo–Well... She has a rainbow mane... You know what I mean. :trollestia:

6954686 hmm can't argue that last point. :rainbowderp:

6954644

I mean, can you truly say that Celestia is a monster though?

Yes. (no emoticon, I'm serious)

Well think about it. Sixty years is a long time to be trying to do what you think is right, only for someone to spit in your face about it every time.

Curiously, I'm of an opposite opinion for this kind of issues: what is a decade more or less to an extremely long-lived/immortal?

No apparent spelling mistakes, not too hard to realize whose PoV is on each section, there's enough plot progression for ~3k words... I think you got your objective with your chapter, I'll give you that. I can't like it however.

(If you answer, please no joking; your story already left me in a very bad mood and a queasy stomach... barely enough to be noticeable, but still counts)

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Curiously, I'm of an opposite opinion for this kind of issues: what is a decade more or less to an extremely long-lived/immortal?

True, but Celestia is still only a pony, even if she lives a very long time. Not to mention she has more of a reason to do this that will be revealed later. And she's a lot younger than Twiligjt by comparison.

No apparent spelling mistakes, not too hard to realize whose PoV is on each section, there's enough plot progression for ~3k words... I think you got your objective with your chapter, I'll give you that. I can't like it however.

Thanks! ...I think.

(If you answer, please no joking; your story already left me in a very bad mood and a queasy stomach... barely enough to be noticeable, but still counts)

Might I ask why? I appreciate any feedback, good or bad. :twilightsmile:

I can't help but wonder how Present!Twilight is going to react to this. Or does she already know about Future!Twilight? Also, why can't Future!Twilight kill herself? I mean, it seems kind of odd that she needs someone else to do it for her. Finally, a part of me honestly wants Celestia to win, just to prove to Future!Twilight that it can be done. And also because Future!Twilight strikes me as being kinda arrogant.

Well Celestia's lost it and is resorting to twisted actions to benefit herself.

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So Celestia crosses into full blown villain territory. At least she's competent at it this time.

Isn't it pretty out of character for Celestia to put Twilight over Equestria? She literally banished her sister for the good of the many and is implied to have made several other hard choices to benefit her ponies at her own expense. It seems weird that she'd risk everything for one pony even if that pony is Twilight. Really this all seems more like something Luna would do honestly.

Nothing would please me more then Twilight killing Glowheart and going all out with revenge. The timeline as Twilight knows it is already messed up, so what does she have to lose?

6955769 She bet the entire Crystal Empire on the hope that Twilight wouldn't have an anxiety attack when she encountered dark magic. :ajbemused:

6955769 I think Celestia altered the timeline when she went to the future so it altered her as well and is causing all sorts of issues that are very very small but will grow over time and the time line unravels more.

Well, Celestia has gone down the "Insanity" route.

6955545 I never said she was perfect. She might have implied it though. :raritywink:

6955710 What if it only appears twisted and evil? :trollestia:

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This time

:rainbowderp: How many other times has she gone full villain?

6956557 Patience my child, patience. :pinkiecrazy:

6957317 Aren't we all a little insane?

6957467 That depends is she holding an innocent third party hostage to force Future!Twilight to stop trying to get Celestia to off her?

6957517 you forgot holding the entire future hostage and purposely altering it despite knowing what sort of damage it could do..

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Well you haven't considered the fact that Celestia is seeing this as someone with less experience in time anomalies and also as someone trying to stop the apocalypse by what she thinks is necessary.

6957545 so....Celestia is being an idiot.

i know what your saying but frankly i don't think there is very many ways to see what Celestia is doing except in a negative lite as either a monster or an colossal idiot for thinking she knows more then a being that has lived far longer then she herself has and has seen far more and study things Celestia has never even dreamed of.

6957559 Celestia thinks she knows best, even if Twilight is her elder. At this point in time, she is the ruler of Equestria so it's her responsibility to decide it's fate. And while, yes, Twilight is older. Celestia is just as arrogant. I think that arrogance is the by product of immortality. No matter how much they don't want to admit it, though Twilight is very blunt about it, Celestia, Luna and possibly even Cadence see themselves as above other ponies.

At least that's how I see it.

6957619 Somewhere around there you're not far off.

6957545 Well this certainly isn't the way to go about it. I don't even need to be 1000+ years to see that.

6957470 Other fanfics. Popular concept.

6957829 Oh. ...Duh. I thought you meant in canon. :rainbowlaugh:

6957737 Well, maybe you'll understand, not agree, but understand her decisions when you see her entire plan. :rainbowlaugh:

6957948 Maybe, but don't hold your breath.

6957953 takes a very deep breath :rainbowkiss:

6957950 Somewhere like I said. Just gotta search a bit more. :twilightblush:

6957956 Better get typing, Captain Lung Capacity.

6958323 i must say i found that statment amusing. :rainbowlaugh:

Guess you decided not to listen to the advice about taking more time after all.

I've got little to complain about in terms of the actual writing. A few things don't make any real sense in a "those words in that order do not mean anything" sense, like this one here:

The fact she allowed this dark mage to hold me in his magic was beyond any strings attached to sanity.

I'm pretty sure that's not any kind of actually existing idiom. Otherwise, it seems pretty clean.

Celestia's motivations are as obscure as the last time, though. Why is she so absurdly dead-set on saving a suicidal future version of Twilight that shouldn't even be here when she could be investing that effort into making sure the actual, contemporary Twilight that she has right there will never end up becoming that person? She's messing with the timeline already anyway. She cares to an excessive degree and it's really not particularly clear why.

Also, that scene where Twilight casually murders the necromancer just struck me as not really her, especially because of all she's gone through and of how much she cares about preserving the timeline.

Finally, logic hole: Celestia still has no idea how many years into the future she went, yet she not only manages to return from there, but to go back to the same point in time and gather Future Twilight's notes. Somehow.

6957559 6957534 In this case, causing damage to the timeline is a good thing. The reason that It is usually avoided is because it could change the future or present, but in this case, any possible change to the future will be beneficial, because nothing could be worse than the future that's in store.
So in this case, they should try to change time and possibly create a paradox. They should explicitly seek to do what almost every other time traveler tries to avoid. Because they should try to change the future as much as possible.

6958746 Well no, the thing is: this chapter was posted and approved for like an hour already by the time you gave me the advise. :twilightsheepish:

I've got little to complain about in terms of the actual writing. A few things don't make any real sense in a "those words in that order do not mean anything" sense, like this one here:
The fact she allowed this dark mage to hold me in his magic was beyond any strings attached to sanity.

I have no excuse other than, "I wanted to put a fun little jab at Celestia in there!" :ajsleepy: I edited in something that might make a tad more sense though.

Celestia's motivations are as obscure as the last time, though. Why is she so absurdly dead-set on saving a suicidal future version of Twilight that shouldn't even be here when she could be investing that effort into making sure the actual, contemporary Twilight that she has right there will never end up becoming that person? She's messing with the timeline already anyway. She cares to an excessive degree and it's really not particularly clear why.

In due time, all will be revealed.

Also, that scene where Twilight casually murders the necromancer just struck me as not really her, especially because of all she's gone through and of how much she cares about preserving the timeline.

Funny fact is, originally I had her teleport him away too. But I decided that due to her past issues with dark magic, it might bias her decision. But I'm no where near an authority on this subject. :twilightsheepish:

Finally, logic hole: Celestia still has no idea how many years into the future she went, yet she not only manages to return from there, but to go back to the same point in time and gather Future Twilight's notes. Somehow.

I just kinda figured after sixty years she figured out how to date Twilight or somehow linked Twilight to the Cutie map to follow her time signature or something. ...But yeah, I should actually say that in the writing at some point.

6959141 and possible end the world even sooner, or cause reality itself to collapse and kill the universe.

her action could cause the end of the world to happen next week for all she knows and it could be a much worse fate. we don't know how the world ended, as Twi hasn't told us. for all we know it could have been quick and painless while Celestia's interference could cause it to be a slow agonizing end.

saying that any other outcome is beneficial is to ignore the fact you can make it far worse or even happen much sooner then it did.

6959141 Well... it has more of an impact than only changing the future in my logic. But you'll see soon enough.

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