History Pt.2: Canterlot
I’ll admit when I formed Canterlot shortly after my sister fell. I wanted to get as far away from the leeches that were ‘the nobility’, as well as plenty of my subjects. So something hard to get to was a must. Then it needed to be strong and able to survive millennia, while at the same time easily defendable. I wasn’t the militant my sister was, so I needed something that others would have a hard time penetrating. Thus my choice for Mt. Canterhorn.
I’ll admit that at first I wanted to do it alone, but I knew that I would need all the help I could get if I were to build a new capital far away for the memories of our old castle. So, why yes, I can see that I might not have mingled with earth ponies all that much prior to Canterlot’s creation, I did when it was formed … didn’t I?
I know that I brought unicorns to do the heavy lifting, mason work, and construction, and pegasi to cart ponies up and down the mountain. As well as bring up materials … no. No earth ponies then, although I did hire that tribe for quarry work to get marble, and precious ores. Even a few petriculturalists for the gems used in enchanting. It was a good decade for unicorns and pegasi though. Until the unicorns built a lift system that went up the mountain. Then it just meant more unicorn jobs.
I believe it was one of my advisors that suggested rock sculpting Canterhorn Pass. Allowing the easier transport of earth pony goods, and travel of the citizenry. Rather than the labor intensive lift … I wonder if I could repair it. It would be an amazing experience for the little ones who visit to see what it was like back in the days.
*sigh* So no. Even when it first formed Canterlot was mostly unicorns. Especially when the leeches found out how to get here. Of course I couldn’t just toss them off the mountain. I had to be the good, loving princess, who was happy to sacrifice my happiness for the happiness of the many.
But after the pass, we did get earth ponies, and with them came agriculture which cheapened the cost of food somewhat. Which meant that we needed weather which I was happy to create, and let our … my little ponies use what they needed.
But with Luna … gone. I felt a great sense of melancholy. I missed raising and watching over her. I missed the fun that I was no longer able to enjoy now that our nation needed me to be serious and dedicated to the nation. So I built my school. Celestia’s School For Gifted Unicorns.
It’s not tribalist to have made it. I was the Element of Magic. I loved magic. I had a horn. So thus any other potential Element of Magic needed to have those things also in a thousand years. That and I never connected with the other races, now that I think about it. I was just a retiring, introvert, with a love of knowledge and magic. A very … what’s the term nowadays … cerebral. Yes, I was a very cerebral pony. Which unicorns as a whole are. There are no magics the other races can do that a unicorn can’t do also. They can do more, and make more than the others with nothing more than their will imposed upon the tapestries of creation.
Earth Ponies … can do alchemy I guess. But anyone can do that if they can follow directions. Their communication with animals, ability to grow things, and their magics that enhance themselves are useful. But slow, and takes ages to do.
Pegasi, can do weather magic, and that’s all. I believe. I’m sure Twilight is exaggerating about Fluttershy’s stare and Pinkie’s Pinkieness.
But nonetheless, when I made my school it was for ponies that I knew I could teach and nurture. Sure there were a few ponies of the other tribes that tried joining, but I had to turn them away. I feel a bit bad, but can you imagine an earth pony coming up to you and saying there Cutie Mark is a magic one? I know that everypony feels a magical bond with their Cutie Marks but that doesn’t make it magic.
I let out a groan. Hearing that thought after thinking of my past till then, I can see how ponies could think I was a tribalist. I mean I didn’t even check to see if the ponies who came who weren’t unicorns could do magic. Even thinking about my sister’s saviors, looking back at my previous thoughts. I judged them by the stereotypes of their race. I meant no offense, they are beautiful mares, but still I can’t believe that a pony such as myself would have let such a problem grow to such levels. Even now my sister suffers because of my blindness. I can fix that later, now I just need to see how bad things have gotten.
Still the school was a good thing. With the school being funded and taught by myself, and future graduates in the earlier years. It ensured a good, well paying job. With a solid future, regardless of a ponies station at birth. It was my first step to stripping power from the nobility and giving it to commoners.
Then of course with good jobs meant the need for more businesses to keep them working, which meant that more unicorns were being registered, which only grew the unicorn population in Canterlot as more unicorns gave birth here, and more moved in, in hopes of getting a better life. If not at the school then at the castle where magic could always be a helpful service.
Although unlike my school. I never turned away the other races who entered Canterlot, and tried to ensure that there were jobs open for any race. But the other races had their own little cites, and I don’t hear anyone complaining that Manehatten is mostly earth ponies, or Appleoosa is almost all earth pony. I never understood why I get sniped at for this being the only major unicorn city. Things happen.
I think my first marem of non-unicorns was shortly after I made the school to be honest. Me turning away non-unicorns created quite a stink. But I couldn’t build a school just for the other races. Pegasi had Cloudsdale, and the Academy. This was when they were still a more militaristic race of course. As for earth ponies, they were busy with subsistence farming and taking over family businesses. So making anything for them would’ve been redundant, and I wouldn’t have been able to help them like I could unicorns. Great, just add more nails to the coffin.
I can’t remember the logic at the time. I think it was something along the lines of, ‘if it makes my ponies happy to show them that I care about all the races. I’ll just get a few mares that I think are attractive. Have a few foals, and show them I can be a loving as well as attentive alpha for my herd. Then when they grow old and die. Mourn their loss so others know I do care, and those losses were hard. Especially when they left for the great beyond. Leaving me alone again. But best of all, have some foals and grand foals to dote on.
Of course unlike the few times I had a unicorn herd, I did parade them. Make flashy and showy gestures. Show off that I wasn’t bothered by their lack of a horn, and I did learn that pegasi wings were rather fun during sex, and earth ponies could do things that most unicorns could never dream of with their bodies. Sometimes I wondered if they were as magical as a unicorn in their own way. And yet another accidentally tribalist thought. Congratulations me. I wonder if I can get a trophy?
You know what, I think I’m going to skip the next few hundred years. I really don’t want to go over the next few fiascos, although the Cloudsdale Weather Charter was a stroke a brilliance. It was the first corner stone to allowing not only non-unicorns into governance, allowed commoners to own their own land and businesses, but by creating “private businesses” I put less burden on the crown while increasing the nation's economy.
It was something that I’ll be forever proud of, to be brutally honest with myself. While the cornerstone I used to stave off “I’m not a tribalist” remarks. Although I should have used words more than sex to show that I cared about the non unicorn tribes. They might’ve fared better, but then I would never have gotten interested in the Smith family, now the Apple family when planning the village that became Ponyville.
To think Word Smith and mine’s descendants would be seed collectors. Still when they arrived and mentioned in passing that they were looking to settle down someday. I knew opportunity struck. I needed a town near where my sister was going to return to, and I needed a place where potential element bearer’s would gather. Who the bearer’s were I could calculate later, but I had a century till it was needed, that and they had the same fire in them that Word did. It was what made her so attractive, other than her literary prowess.
I think, it’s time for me to think about more recent times. After all the past is filled with ghosts, and I’ve pinpointed all that I need to do to start working on myself to be a better princess to our little ponies, although I need to make a few apologies in private later on.
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Even if you make the claim that she isn't tribalist, some of her inner thoughts show that she definitely has a severe bias in favor of unicorns. That's she's kinda dismissive of Twilight's claims on her friends and doesn't seem to be willing to look into the abilities of the other two tribes to see if there is anything more is really bad.
I think you meant Stallions not mares...
It's impossible for same sex to have foals...
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Oh. That's not my claim. It's hers XD. Although it's a question to be posed. I mean she does have those Earth Ponies and Pegasi that she either does or has loved. She's not above helping either of those tribes out. But on the other hoof ... as you noticed her actions and inner thoughts speak volumes. Even if she's not intentional about it
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6987294 Unless Celestia is actually a guy!
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You're forgetting one important thing.
Celestia has access to magic. I don't really like repeating this across multiple fics but nonetheless here's the logic:
1) In nature, there are creatures that can partially or fully change gender. Heck there's a race of lizzards who're all female, who impregnate themselves (dry humping eachother to stimulate the biolgical process to impregnate their own ovaries. [Whiptail Lizards in Arizona].
2) Science has made breakthroughs in creating creating proto eggs / semen. From opposing gene-bits [eggs to semen, semen to eggs].
3) Magic can alter genetics to the point that Plant and Animal DNA can coexist and not kill the thing off instantly. Nevermind the fact that Cell Walls [plant] and Blood Cells [animal] are complete opposites.
3b) This shows that genetic alteration and transfiguration is possible.
3c) This also gives credence to thousands of futafics, or fics where magic is used for one mare to impregnate another.
4) It's cannon. Mares are more than stallions. By 1.85 to 1. This includes forground and background ponies. From all nations shown in Equestria. The show.]. So magic that'd allow those mares who can't enter a herd [especially now that most ponies are monogamous] the ability to carry on their genetics lineage. Female to Female, even Male to Male, impregnation. Is not only plausible but doable.
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5) Magic! Magic is a science. Nature supplies ways for females or males to impregnate the same gender with full or partial sex change. Either for a short amount of time, or longer. All a Y Gene is, is an X gene with one of the X bottom parts wrapped around the other. So gender bending, via magic. Is with all the genetic alterations they are capable of. Is within the realm of possibility.
6987335 sorry to know you have to repeat what you say. Thanks for the information, it would be nice to have Celestia have a few stallions for herself.
Hey maybe that's why all her Royal Gurd are male...
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It's all good. It's mostly after the fortieth time stating [mostly in other writers fics], "Yes, this story has two females in a relationship and one is doing futa. Here's how it can be possible." ... it gets a little stale XD.
But yeah, it could be that's the reason [although since all their armor is enchanted to make them look the same. IDK?]. Although Celestia's preference is for several reasons.
1) Mares are more alright with going one way or the other. And don't mind getting pregnant. A stallion, no matter how active his lovelife might be. You'll rarely find one who wants to do the equivalent of passing a football through his nose. After 11 months of carrying around another pony in his belly.
2) Getting pregnant herself is a risk (being a national figurehead and having a constant spotlight on her). But getting others pregnant means that all her herdmates can have her foals, rather than waiting 11 mo. each for every one to have a turn in her womb. [thus less jealousy. Most of the time.]
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3) Stallions are great at times, even though most of the good ones are taken all too soon. But are incompetent (unless they are villains). Mares on the other hand are more capable and less likely to bring ruin down upon her ... that and mares are more sightly and approachable.
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You're... seriously going with "Stallions are just incompentent unless evil" for this story?
Oh, Celestia, you really are tribalist! Shame on you.
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Nope. That's cannon for 99% of all males. [Just like you have some mares who're evil, and / or incompetent. It's not all 100%. But such a vast majority that it's common knowledge.]].
Royal Guards. The Best Trained Soldiers in Equestria. Constantly, and utterly pwned. [by the same forces that get pwned by teenagers / those barely adult. Civies with 0 training]. Are always the first to get blasted and defeated swiftly. Like a perpetual Worf Effect. It happens without fail. Not to mention they also fail at stopping anyone who isn't Fluttershy. And these are the manliest men in Equestria.
That's just one group / example. But a majority of males [even Shining Armor [big time], and Big Mac [face hooving moments]] have shown that they have massive streaks of incompetence or lack of intelligence from time to time ... to time. Not that those ones are evil. There are a few like Fancy Pants and Hoity Toity [even if the latter is a snob] who're alright. Just like you have Spoiled Rich who's evil and stupid, and Starlight Glimmer who's redemption arc was utterly stupid and banal as she was an evil commie bastard.
6987642 It is sad there aren't many smart males in the series. I do agree what you explain, I hope we'll actually see a smarter male character one day In the show.
Why do they make it like that, I always see this in Male characters for any entertainment. We aren't that dumb... Right?
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Well speaking as a male myself. No, we aren't. I mean our race had Nicoli Tesla and Poincare' [never mind their works were stolen and downplayed by Edison [the greatest theif and blackmailer in history. For Tesla and many others.], and Einstein [the king of plagiarism. For Jules Poincare' and Lorentz.]].
Still ... with Equines. Stallions are mostly used for fighting and breeding in horse herds. With mares being the ones who rule the herd [Boss Mare], deciding where they go, what they do, the rules their herd follows. So I guess in a way. it's IRL-ish? Although with them being human like in culture and technology. You'd think that there'd be at least more intelligent stallions. Rather than those who make me embarrassed to share a gender with them.
oh Celestia,Celestia,Celestia...
Dear sweat Flutters and Pinkie are among the most terrifying of the elements. The yellow one can rend your mind if her animal army doesn't get you first but she's far too kind to ever due anything like that surely... ah and the pink one is a mini Discord not to mention her sister if Pinkie were harmed .. (shiver)
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How things will bite you in the ass i don't to even think about it
6987748 That's true and I'm with yea, it does bother me at times when the male characters (either front or background) become dumb at times.
It does make me wonder what happens when there is a Male Alicorn?
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Nikolai Tesla was actually hugely popular and influential in his time. And now he's still hugely popular. I mean most people can name maybe two scientists from that time, and Tesla is one of them. Edison may be the other one, but heck, these days I hear more about Tesla than Edison anyway. While I believe Edison was a cutthroat businessman, Tesla was also sorta actively negligent in his business sense, and made definitely bad decisions which led to the situations where Edison (who was very canny in business and money) wound up more prolific and profitable.
I get what you mean when you say you wish there were more respectable stallions but... I don't think that makes it "canon" that almost every single stallion is useless or more pathetic than the girls.
Especially since there's a laundry list of completely bonkers, irresponsible, and downright psychotic things that the girls did. Like that one time one of the girls dressed up like a person they weren't, making a total fool of herself hoping to sway someone who had a crush on one of her friends. Or that one time that one character couldn't figure out what to send to her teacher, so she brainwashed half the town? Or that other time that one of them smashed an important factory because they couldn't get over how their pet was going to hibernate for a few months.
Good times.
I mean, if you're gonna write it like that, you have to remember there is one male who's been written worst of all: that dumb ole dragon. He's selfish and incompetent if there's no mare around to lead him by the nose, after all. You'll have to write him like 2 or 3 times worse, since what he's mostly been good for is fetching books and taking notes, and being selfish whenever nobody else is around.
Or you could take all of that with a grain of salt, chalk it up to the weird priorities of writing a child's show starring almost exclusively girls, so things like "military might" and "sensible magic power levels" and stuff like that is hardly realistic or believable.
And remember that Shining Armor set up a clever scavenger hunt from another country.
6987642 Well, the Mane 6 are kind of equipped with Character Shields...
♫ I think everypony's a little bit tribalist sometimes,
Doesn't mean we go around committing hate crimes... ♫
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He might be popular now. But Tesla in his time. After Edison ran him through the mud. Bastardizing AC energy to promote DC energy, by stating how dangerous it was. Along with a lifetime smear campaign. Left Tesla destitute. Being a eugenicist, Tesla saw himself as genetically inferior and refused to have children. Since he didn't see himself as worthy enough.
Let's not forget about how had plans that big business wrecked, for giving mankind free energy. Not via Cold Fusion, or other such nonsense. But via shooting ions into the atmosphere, and beaming electricity to homes and businesses. So yeah. People knew of him. But he wasn't the god he is today.
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Yeah. We already get episodes like that with Spike. Honestly they flip flop him so much it makes me want to strangle the writers with their intestines. I mean we could get a reasonably decent main character male. But he's a "baby dragon" (never mind he's CMC age), and it's alright that after destroying his childhood, making him as smart as Twilight, and a proverbial slave. Turn his hyper competence, into super incompetence at the drop of a hat.
And if he gets greedy, or jealous. Well he's a dragon. Noone expects him to be be a good guy ... wait what was that? He saved their lives and all of Equestria twice? Nah! Let's give him a handle bar mustache and have him drown himself in pudding after forgetting how to walk. It'll be a laugh. *punches writers in the throat repeatedly*.
But yeah. The Mane 6, are insane. I won't doubt those moments. But their shining moments are awesomeness / competency are higher than any stallions in the show.
And as I said. It's not all of the Stallions. But a large enough degree [in all manner of Equestria] that it's an unfortunate truth. Even if it's not 99 or even 80%. We just don't get that many Stallions [other than Dr. Hooves, Fancy Pants, Hoity Toity, Mr. Cake, Doughnut Joe, Party Favor, Double Diamond] who're competent.
Just as not all mares are competent or not evil. A lot of good villains were female. And all Earth Super Villains are female [ever notice that? in EQG it's a total flip from Equestria. If you're male, you're good and competent. If you're female, there's a high chance you're evil / super stupid [*glares at Principle Celestia*]. Again. It's not a catch all. 100% this or that thing.
Nothing in reality is absolute. It's bits and pieces, heres and theres. And both mares and stallions can be good or evil. Competent or incompetent. It's simply like IRL earth horses. Stallions are low on the pecking order / more likely to be incompetent. While mares are naturally better [but just as flawed as everyone else. You'll never here me say none of the Mane 6, or mares are perfect. Hell I've said all over this site the flaws of everypony. Except for Scootaloo, or Sweetie Belle.]
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Hellz yes! That song needs to be ponified.
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And yes the EoH really do give them a great shield. Although in Pinkie's Case I think she simply warps problems away ... unless she goes into crazy mode and starts shipping Madame La Floure' with Tom. Who makes Rocky jealous, so he hires Sir Lintsalot to "take care of Tom" ... only for Sir Lintsalot to take Tom out to dinner and give tips on how to woo the Madame. Since he misunderstood what was meant by "take care".
So clearly we're in unreliable narrator mode, which I always enjoy in stories. It's interesting that Celestia starts with the cliched "all the nobility are useless and evil," since this is the era before mass education, she needed the nobility to govern the country. If the nobles all moved to Canterlot (which they kind of had to, since somebody had to be the chancellors and treasurers and all the intermediate work since not even Celestia could do the governing at once) and Celestia created a elite school that became the secondary focus of Canterlot...and the power of the nobility shifted to graduates of the school.... doesn't that mean the almost all CSfGU graduates must have at least some noble pedigree? I mean obviously Twilight does, but this suggests the entire Amending Fences gang are at least Marquis or something.
We know that earth ponies have some kind of advanced school now, since that's where Maud Pie is getting her Rockterate, I wonder if Celestia is involved with that school at all?
Kind of a bit heavy-handed, don't you think? I don't really think anyone could literally say "I'm not racist, unicorns are simply just factually better" to themselves and not notice what they're doing. Could have done with being phrased a bit more obliquely. People are good at lying to themselves, but that means they have to tell themselves a version of story they'd actually be willing to believe. Celestia can't be possibly be that oblivious.
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Interestingly, that's surprisingly unimpressive - humans already share about half their DNA with bananas.
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Not quite on the CSFGU. Sure originally most of them came from nobility. With others coming from those few non-nobles who could afford the cost to travel over there, get a job [the school and city still needed bakers, construction workers [who were unicorns there], medics / doctors, etc. [basically built around that school were unicorns who weren't nobility [or at least directly. Since Clover the Clever, and Starswirl weren't nobles. But important [and ], and hope that their child would be able to pass through the schools hallowed halls. Which of course meant that over time, that the commoners were more than the nobles who attended.
Well at least those noble houses. who're now considered commoners [like a majority of unicorns like Hondo Flanks and Cookie Crumbles, or Minuet, or even Trixie. The school is built off of those who have the power and skill to pass. Or who show great promise. In the early years. That was the nobility, but as time grew on, more and more "commoners" came in. Which Celestia did her best to ensure became a thing.]
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You're talking about an Alicorn. Upon seeing her niece was acting strangely, didn't know certain details, and strange things were happening around her. Upon it being called out, and brought to her attention by the filly she practically raised for a lot of her life. Not only treated her with disdain, but told her "she had a lot to think about."
You're talking about an Alicorn. Whom knowing her student. And whom knowing the type of Xanathos Gambit champion Sombra was. Told Luna that she wasn't to help Twilight, and that it was a test for her [one she had faith that she, and she alone could do. Changed her rules afterwards, but nonetheless].
It's said that a student's actions are a reflection of a teacher. After all they know what their teacher knows.
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4:46 [4:56 is when she gets on her soapbox] - 5:23: That's what they state is magic in the school. And Celestia's view point on what is magic. Then their's a pony's tribal abilities. Pegasi have weather magic. They make the weather, and they can fly. Both are awesome, and needed, and Equestria wouldn't be what it is without those businesses dedicating so much [heck one of the proudest moments of her life she states was the Cloudsdale Weather Charter.]. Earth Ponies grow things. Others can be rather strong / fast [not necessarily stronger than non-earth ponies [after all we have Dash who has a healthy rivalry with AJ]. But their magical talents are passive.
The stare hasn't happened around Tia, and Pinkie Pie, well if Twilight can't explain it. How would Celestia understand it? Especially if she hasn't seen it first hoof?
It's simply common knowledge as far as ponies go [not with Pinks and Flutters], or seen as an exaggeration / modern tall tale / urban legend. Things that crop up from time to time, but doesn't mean that it's to be taken completely at face value.
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The list doesn't show his reference. And links to a page that no longer exists.
But that's only bananas, who's genetic structure is weird. Here's a Banana Cell:
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We still have cell walls, but they aren't as rigid as lets say:
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but nonetheless:
They have different cellular make ups. Animals / Reptiles / non-plants have Cell Membranes only, and have different little bits that make up the cell and what the cell runs on. Plant Cells have a Cell Wall first, a Cell Membrane second [that needs a different food source than Fauna DNA], and it's insides are completely different than animals.
So I find it hard to imagine that IRL a person could have both animal and plant cellular structures, and both flora and fauna genetics interacting in a way that'd not be lethal to the animal. Seeing as how they form, act, and live differently.
As for that link. That's as much as a common myth like Carrots improve eyesight, or Spinach has massive amounts of iron / protein and will increase your strength.. We might share nucleotides, but not DNA XD.
6988907 What you're saying makes a lot of sense, but if most unicorns live in Canterlot for generation after generation, and they all attend the CSfGU together (except the dummies), and the CSfGU graduates always get the high-society positions, then at this point the nobility and the commoners would have interbred to the point where basically every unicorn is around 1/16th noble or something. Notice how nobody but Prince Blueblood actually has a title anymore? Even Fancy Pants is referred to as "that's Fancy Pants!" Not "That's Duke Fancy Pants." I bet Blueblood is mostly noble, but most of the other Canterlot elite are probably the same mixed blood as the rest of the city, except the elite are the ones who got top jobs because they had the best grades at the CSfGU. Kind of like how the Canterlot elite is half earth pony these days (watch "Pony Every Pony Should Know" to verify this).
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They're also better than almost every mare in the show. Even the positive supporting characters aren't as great as the main six. About the only other mares that do other important or amazing things are the princesses, Maud Pie, and Zecora. I can't really think of any others that reasonably compare to the main cast in terms of feats, and Maud might still not if "being ridiculously strong and tough" doesn't actually count. Zecora only inches in because of what she did in alternate timelines. All the others are screwups, panicers, villains, or just regular people with regular problems.
I think that you're just blowing the fact that Shining had to be saved twice, and the fact that stallions are less common to be featured in the show than mares out of proportion and extracting a trend from it. And not just a vague trend (although it looks like you may be backing into that) but a solid one that justifies the attitude all the way down to "males are unsuitable for Celestia to marry because they are pretty awful."
And, the thing is, if you knew this was clearly just your headcanon, or it was just interpretation you were using for this particular story, then I would... accept it. Still wouldn't like it but... would accept. But this seems like you earnestly think this is unquestionably canon, and it... sorta isn't.
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Alright, fair point there. Still, I think you're writing her as just too much of hypocritical idiot for it to work with the function she has in this story. Making her out to be a straight-up unicorn supremacist is counterproductive here because it makes her look like a caricature, not like a realistically flawed person. If the story was played as black comedy, that kind of thing could work, but in a story that sells itself as drama, it just means everyone else needs to be unrealistically gullible and oblivious by default for there to even be any kind of story at all. "Unicorns are superior and there's nothing anyone else can do that they wouldn't do better" kind of doesn't leave a lot of room for interpretation or conflicted feelings. It's pretty much setting her up as a strawman to dismantle, rather than a believable character who'd actually be interesting to see deal with that kind of unflattering revelation about herself.
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That's the thing though. Until she started looking into her thoughts. She never saw unicorns as supremist. Nor did she see herself as thinking unicorns are better. Now that she's looking at her past. She's noticing things. Heck she even points out a tribalistic thought that she had.
And a lot of the things that you can point out as hypocritical, or supremacist. Can also be pointed out as she herself doesn't see herself, or how those thoughts could be tribalist, or hypocritical. I mean technically nothing she said was wrong. And if it's something she never saw herself, of experienced personally. Her ignorance, and subconscious bias, can cause ponies to do many stupid things.
Hell. Twilight herself says that magic is something that you control, and will into being. That's what magic is to a learned unicorn. The Stare isn't something that Fluttershy just whips out willy nilly, just when she feels as if she has no choice to do so. And it's not something common, or well studied. As for Pinks. Well ... her skills are rare in the world. Extremely, extremely rare. So rare that even Twilight, a scientist, is forced to accept it as something beyond the realm of understanding.
If Twilight is ignorant. Until her world views are pushed, and comes in contact with X. What does that say about Tia who hasn't had that physical interaction, or had much reason to challenge common knowledge that everypony knows as facts?
Pegasi, can do weather magic, and that’s all.
Which means if Pegasi ever got clever, they'd realize they can manipulate water, air, and electricity in any combination they please.
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Since some fellow named Starswirl is pretty much running laps around all of the princesses in terms of power... I'm going to reject the claim how male ponies are naturally inferior and substitute my own, which is Celestia not only being tribalist, but sexist as well.
Oh, and likely also ungrateful towards the ponies who helped her govern during Luna's absence, whom Celestia calls "leeches" and whose service she didn't deserve. Really, this Celestia is a terrible person, isn't she?
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She called them leeches because they did not help her and just tried to suck up to take luna's place.
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Pretty much what 9198726 said. As well as the fact that Nobility really doesn't add to the world around them. They throw parties to show off their wealth, look down on those outside their caste, but don't really add on to things. Outside the very small minority, unlike the predecessors when Equestria was young.
As for Starswirl running laps around the Princesses, one alicorn could do what it took Starswirl + a group of unicorns to do. Although he was more powerful than any non-alicorn, and I will agree that outside of Celestial Magic, was more prolific and skilled than the princesses in terms of spell creation, and magical skill.
But yes. Celestia is tribalist, and sexist (since even I'll admit that while mares are in charge of things as equines are want to do, neither sex is truly superior to the other. Each tribe and gender has its own strengths and weaknesses.).
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Yep. Any state of water, wind and electricity (as well as a form of light manip (Rainbow / Prism manip)). Means they are potentially one of the most OP tribes with a little bit of ingenuity.