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season 5's ending was bad , i made it better....


season 5 ending was the worst episode of the entire series to me , in fact i consider it a disgrace to intelligence that the writers would produce such ass of an episode , i instantly thought of so many better ways this concept could have been handled , and they were so easy too , so easy that i made this....

this takes place starting from when starlight confronts twilight , and does a different take on what could have been done with the episode from there.....

this fic was proofread by revolver's dusk
http://www.fimfiction.net/user/Revolvers+Dusk
and even though i felt like i had more corrections to make on the fic after the proofread than before , he was a big help to me for the entire duration of writing this , without him this fic would have far worse off....

if you enjoyed this fic then plz share it with others , as that will probably be the only way people will see it....

omg the mare in the moon is wrong in the cover image , or did the animators from the show just mess up on that too? cause it's mirrored in the episode so i thought that was actually a neat attention to detail they added....

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a week after posting this now i have made a blog post detailing why season 5's ending was bad , so that would be a better place to discuss that if it doesn't also have something to do with the fic specifically....
http://www.fimfiction.net/blog/591730/season-5-end-discussion

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this was amazing X3

you say season 5 had a bad ending, i think season 5 was bad in it self, like Discord and Twilight despising each other, it's like season 4's ending never happened

6862330 wow that was fast for a first comment on my fic , it was only up for a couple hours :o ...

glad you liked it....

i think i liked season 5 over all a bit more than the previous 2 , maybe not the episodes themselves but the messages they tried to convey , like the manehatten one that had coco brought back for it , really liked that gathering of the community they went for , and showing some real character beyond him being big and reserved with the lengths he went to to try and be a big brother that apple bloom could count on when aj wasn't around , those were nice....

but yeah now that you mention it , what was discord's motivation for trying to make twilight feel bad that she couldn't share in experiences with her friends all the time? that's not even a 'he's still not good at being friends thing' , that's just an obvious fact of reality , but again i still like that they tried to make an episode about that thought cause it is some interesting stuff to think about.....


also , 6 down thumbs already eh? even though im getting so many notifications of ppl adding this to their favorites....

im guessing that's because people hate starlight that much eh :D ? eh i guess my fic doesn't do a good job at making her character likable , oh well....

Maybe if you toook the time to understand it, you'd see it wasnt as bad as you think. It was rather good in my opinion.

6862606 i didn't hate season 5, i just think they didn't look at the old episodes, one of my fav episodes is in season 5, that be Slice of Life, i love that one, how they show more of the other ponies

i would of liked the episode with, i would like the where Discord picked on Twi if it wasn't Twi he was picking on, i can think of 2 ponies who fit better then Twi as Twi was the one who showed Discord true friendship and got him to open his hart in the last season 4 episode, the ponies are Rainbow Dash and Rarity.
have it that Dash does not trust Discord yet as what did and who he is and have it she slept through the day and missed it all. i got this idea from how Dash didn't trust Twi when she know Nightmare Moon so this could work with Dash.
with Rarity she could have had it she was doing a big order and she missed out on it all, the idea for Rarity is because Discord can be very messy and doesn't think of other ponies when he does messy things.

i also don't like them giving Twi old friends, Twi never had old friends until that episode, she used to say they where a wast of time, meaning she left them years ago so Moondancer should angry at Twi years ago also in Amending Fences when you see the flash back, Twi still didn't tweet them as friends, she tweeted Moondancer as an class mate, it just seem right to me

as for the 6 down thumbs well that's the new fandom for you, there not that good of people, this one person was kicked out of a mlp convention because he asked why two comedians why they where on stage if they knew they where not funny and note the comedians where not funny and none of the bronies laugh at there jokes but he asked that and the bronies got him kicked out for attacking them with the questions
the person also talks about how the new fans don't like honesty and the sad he was right, if i could find the vid, i would show you it

season 5's ending was bad

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What if I told you there were people who liked it?

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No, that is not the reason in the slightest why people downvote a fanfiction. People downvote because they didn't enjoy what was offered to them. As a matter of fact, by giving feedback from downvoting, this would actually mean that people were willing to express their opinion, just as what AnimatedJames, like in your example, did.

Also, AnimatedJames does not relate to the downvoting. He got kicked out not for giving critsizm, but because he asked an increadibly rude question and flat out insulted them. It's just like seeing a bad fanfiction, and saying "This fanfiction sucks, so don't write", instead of actually telling them what was wrong with it.

For me, I haven't read this yet, but I felt the need to address this comment beforehand.

Because there isn't much criticism to the content of this story already, I felt the need to go ahead and make a review. Now, for a message to the author, a good writer can take criticism and learn from it, instead of wiping it aside as "hate".

Let's do this.

Oh yeah.

Potential spoilers.

better season 5 end

Oh god. Don't make this the title. Not only does this seriously give people doubts about the quality of the fanfiction in the first place, it can get people to make assumptions that the author is naive and arrogant, claiming that he can outdo the show upright. I'm sure that it isn't the case with you, but seriously, that title leaves much to be desired. There's a reason why "Star Wars: The Force Awakens" isn't named "Star Wars: I did better than George Lucas". (Which actually, wouldn't have been that hard...)

season 5's ending was bad , i made it better....

Yeah, it was bad, but claiming that you have improved upon it,

right in your description

is a very, very long stretch of a claim.

season 5 ending was the worst episode of the entire series to me , in fact i consider it a disgrace to intelligence that the writers would produce such ass of an episode , i instantly thought of so many better ways this concept could have been handled , and they were so easy too , so easy that i made this....

You know, there is something contradictory about your claim that is right on the fanfiction itself.

It's rated T for teen.

My Little Pony is rated TV-Y, which means that fighting is toned down, there is no swearing, blood, or especially an impending sense of death. However, the show's writing more than makes up for that, as that is why so many people fell in love with it.

Having an alternate ending rated T for teen doesn't make it better, it simply gives you more leeway to what you can add in there. If you were truly going for an "improved ending", this would have been rated E.

this takes place starting from when starlight confronts twilight and does a different take on what could have been done with the episode from there.....

Sadly enough, this is the closest thing to an actual story description we get, and it doesn't explain much to us for what we can expect in the story.

this fic was proofread by revolver's dusk
and even though i felt like i had more corrections to make on the fic after the proofread than before , he was a big help to me for the entire duration of writing this

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This was proofread?!

Okay, I'm not trying to insult whoever proofread this, but this fanfiction doesn't appear to have been proofread in the slightest. There are grammar and spelling mistakes in literally every single sentence, and this is just on the story description itself.

without him this fic would have far worse off....

Okay, okay. I haven't gotten into the story yet, but your description, title, and more or less, the "cover" of your story already lowers my expectations. Then again, the saying "don't judge a book by its cover" still applies to me.

However, fanfictions have a plethora of information on their "cover", compare to books.

"What are you planning? What's this all about?" {Why don't i have any guards?}

Because she and her friends are literally the most powerful ponies that have existed in all of history, possibly rivaling, if not even more powerful than the Princesses themselves? If Starlight Glimmer teleported in, then how could she do that? From what I have gathered, teleportation can only be done to a place that you have physically visited (unless you have been overload by pony god magic). Twilight didn't need guards. She need to remember to lock the door.

Oh, and I was wrong to assume that the story itself was not proofread. There are far less grammar mistakes that are apparent, but please just fix up that description.

Starlight gave the smuggest look. "Welcome home Twilight," she said back with a sneer while picking up a scroll from under the table, "Enjoy your last precious moments in it!"
"What are you planning? What's this all about?" {Why don't i have any guards?}
"Oh you know, the usual. Just walking into your home, taking away everything from you, and forgetting about you. HEY, kinda like you did to me! Funny how that works..."
"Im sorry about what happened in that village, but you have to understand what you were doing to those ponies wasn't right! You lied to everypony to give up their cutie marks and be your friend! That's not what real friendship is about. We couldn't just leave and forget ever seeing that." Twilight tried to reason with her, but Starlight wouldn't have it.
"We were all perfectly content to keep living our humble lives in our little village until you came and ruined everything. And you think that just because you're the "Princess Of Friendship" everypony has to conform to being friends the way you think they should? " She yelled back.
"That's not what i meant at all!"
"Well it doesn't matter what you meant! What matters is what you did, and what I’m going to do to you! I WILL have everything I want. And right now, I’m wanting some revenge. Using this scroll, I'll get rid of your friendships and have my revenge!" Starlight began to cackle while waving the scroll in front of her.
"Oh no you don't!" Twilight instantly called on her magic and zapped the scroll in front of Starlight to destroy it.
BIG mistake.
Instead of the magic blasting the scroll to bits, most of kind of just bounced away or was neutralized; but having given direct contact to the scroll through her magic, her essence was now imprinted on it's memory along with Starlight's, a small mark appeared on it showing her connection to it.
"Hahahah sigh, so predictable, twilight." Starlight laughed.
Twilight tried again, only this time she aimed for Starlight hopping to knock her out and stop this before it got out of hand, but to her surprise Starlight deflected the blast with her own magic with ease.
"Par for the course," Starlight said amusingly. It was then that Twilight noticed something a little different about Starlight, her mane wasn't just tied back at the top but at the bottom as well in more of a ponytail fashion, with what appear to be amulets...magic enhancing amulets just like the Alicorn amulet!
"Like them? I always have a backup plan, my magic was already stronger than most other pony's, and with these magic enhancing amulets, I'll easily be able to keep up with anything you throw at me," She said with another smirk.
"What happened to my magic!? Why wasn't the scroll destroyed?"
"Oh did i forget to mention? This is a type of scroll and spell designed by Star Swirl, it's not so easy to destroy it with magic, and once somepony comes into direct contact with the scroll it will remember them, and will call to them when it's activated, speaking of which..."
Starlight used her knowledge of the enchantment to activate the power of the scroll, it began to cause whirls in the room as it ascended. "This scroll will connect to another dimension, and it will send us to it, it's identical to our own world though don't worry, I'm not a monster, I've just made a tiny little adjustment."

Well jee, nothing has really changed from here on.

Actually, I may not have to look through the entirety of this story, since it's pretty much the same until the ending compared to the episode. The only advice I could give is please do a better job checking your spelling mistakes and grammatical errors. Use google docs to type the story first. It's got a much better spellcheck function. However, if there was a difference in the story compared to the episode I have missed from this point, let me know, please.

Okay, so from what I can digest, Starlight makes a deal with Nightmare Moon to stop/destroy Twilight Sparkle. Honestly, it's not a bad concept. I like it a lot. However, there is a flaw to this.

Nightmare Moon is hated by all. If this was the Starlight from the normal universe, then she should know why it's a bad idea to trust Nightmare Moon.

Also, something else for you. Please break this down into smaller chapters. It's so painful to read all of this in one go. Making multiple chapters allows a reader to take a break from reading. 12,860 words, for me, is just too much. I'm very sure others would agree.

"Getting what I want. You made me feel bad, about myself. I've never felt bad about myself before. This cannot go unpunished. So now I'm having my revenge on you."

Instead of expanding on Starlight's character, let's just make her even more shallow.

"I thank you for sharing the remaining identities of the element bearers with me. Once I've taken care of those ponies from this world, I will no longer have any reason to keep you around." The Nightmare bared her fangs. "Pleasant dreams, my little monarch" She said before dissipating into mist.
NONONONONONO!
The shock caused Twilight to wake in a panic. She was back in her cell again. Alone. She had dreamed about her friends to comfort her saddened soul, and in doing so betrayed her trust with them to reveal their identities to the watchful nightmare.
She would have cried herself to sleep again, but the guilt she was feeling would keep her up all night now...

Holy crap. That was actually pretty clever.

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Okay, reaching the end of this story, I can see that with refinement, this story can easily hit the popular stories section. The concept is fascinating, and honestly, if you really worked hard on this story, fixed up the mistakes, don't type in call caps when a character is screaming, and get a REALLY talented editor, and split this up into multiple chapters, then this story would definitely be in my favorites.

For now, keep on writing, and improve.

Also, do not delete this comment in fear of what people might see. I have spent a fair amount of time on this, and by deleting someone else's comment, other people will view it as you not being able to take an opinion.

-ShadowFall

6864112 oh ok, i don't understand why people don't like it, i have seen a lot of fanflics on here get mostly good when the writing bad, no passing and the idea was good but was ruined and season 5 end made me ask question and the only answer it gave just made Starlight out to be a very bad villain

all AnimatedJames ask was if you know you weren't that good then why do sand up, he just wanted to know and he tried to see it in there eyes so i don't get big deal of banning him

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oh ok, i don't understand why people don't like it, i have seen a lot of fanflics on here get mostly good when the writing bad, no passing and the idea was good but was ruined and season 5 end made me ask question and the only answer it gave just made Starlight out to be a very bad villain

Yeah... I have no idea what you are talking about.

AnimatedJames, himself, admitted that this wasn't a good thing to say, and that he worded his question very wrong, and has since admitted himself to be a bad person. However, I know he didn't mean harm.

6864642 I'm saying there are some flics on here that have other 50 thumbs up and 6 or 7 down when it's really bad and yet i seen some which are ok that get nerelly nothing but down (not defending this one, i do understand the hate but i still think it's ok and a fun idea )

ohh ok X3 sorry about what i said, it was meant to have a ? because i was asking as i wasn't there or am i watching him, sorry about that

6864690 No problem.

Remember, stories are in the eye of the beholder. My story got featured twice, but there are certainly those who don't enjoy it, and that's okay with me.

6864794 my problem isn't the fact that some oks get bad ratting, my problem is there are some bad ones that get love

6863365 what's to understand? what did season 5's end accomplish that wasn't done better here?....


6863923

i got this idea from how Dash didn't trust Twi when she know Nightmare Moon so this could work with Dash.

she didn't trust twilight in episode 1 because she completely knew to ponyvile and dash thought she was a spy for nmm cause she knew so much , that wouldn't work at all with their characters now , but sure that could work with rarity , certainly couldn't be any worse then with twilight....

i also don't like them giving Twi old friends, Twi never had old friends until that episode,

except she did :l , that's literally in the first episode of the show , it shows twi has some classmates who think of her as a friend , at the time she obviously doesn't think the same way though , and later once she realizes how much friendship means to her she goes to correct it , amending fences is actually like the best episode of the season....

as for the 6 down thumbs well that's the new fandom for you,

wow really? that's fucking retarded , and im not even old enough to remember when people had standards and heckling was common practice to make sure those standards were met , people paid money to go to that so if they aren't satisfied they have every right to complain is how that system was supposed to work....

lol even you got a downthumb for saying that XD , have an upthumb :twilightsmile:


6864028 no need for you to tell me , they're already telling me themselves :rainbowlaugh: ....


6864112

People downvote because they didn't enjoy what was offered to them.

you must be one of the new fandom people then...
no , from what i see the majority of people downvote cause they don't like the subject mater , or in this case the character involved , reading isn't necessary to give downthumbs......

ok decided to make the response to your review it's own post to make things more manageable....

6864190

I felt the need to go ahead and make a review.

a review of a fic in the comments of that fic? is that a thing? shouldn't you like post a dedicated blog for that and just link to it in the comments or something? either way neat i wasn't expecting to get a full review at all :pinkiehappy:

Now, for a message to the author, a good writer can take criticism and learn from it, instead of wiping it aside as "hate".

no need to explain that to me , im not retarded unlike most people....

Oh god. Don't make this the title.

it's the best title for the fic though , which is probably another reason why it's getting a lot of down votes right away cause you're right retarded people will think that , i don't care what retarded people think though so that doesn't matter to me they could infinity downthumb it for all i care....

claiming that he can outdo the show upright.

i absolutely claim that here , just so we're clear......

that title leaves much to be desired.

it's a title :l , that's what the description is for , if people don't like the title they can copy the fic and name the text doc something else lol.....

It's rated T for teen.

i put that as the rating cause i thought any violence in a fic meant it had to be teen , but trying to look now i can't actually find any info at all at what the different ratings mean....
and since fim is full of violence that would make it teen rating as well getting rid of this perceived conflict altogether...

Having an alternate ending rated T for teen doesn't make it better, it simply gives you more leeway to what you can add in there. If you were truly going for an "improved ending", this would have been rated E.

nonsense , as the revers is true as well , having the content stay at e rating cause that's what the source material is doesn't make it any better either....

that's an irrelevant discussion though since literally the only thing my fic did that wasn't done in the show was a failed execution scene , here's some things that fim did that my fic doesn't do though
-slavery
-war
-genocide

this is a completely insane self defeating losing argument you're trying to make here :rainbowhuh:

However, the show's writing more than makes up for that, as that is why so many people fell in love with it.

that used to be the case , but after that catastrophe of an ending im actually not going to bother watching any new content from them unless they get some new writers....

Sadly enough, this is the closest thing to an actual story description we get, and it doesn't explain much to us for what we can expect in the story.

the purpose of this fic is so handle the characters and plot better than the show did , so either a person coming to the fic to see it has already seen the episode and knows what happens thus doesn't need me re-explaining it to them , or they haven't seen it and can go in blind , as they will already know all the context necessary to understand what's happening if they've watched the show at all (specifically including season 5's opening that it)
if they haven't , what are they doing reading fanfics about the show for then?.....

if it would make you happy i could paste in the synopsis for the episode though....

This was proofread?!

3 times over in fact he told me....
he gave me this guide to use which helped me fix a lot of the formatting....
http://eznguide.neocities.org/

and this is just on the story description itself.

.....OHLOL YOU WERE TALKING JUST ABOUT MY DESCRIPTION :rainbowlaugh::rainbowlaugh::rainbowlaugh: , did you SERIOUSLY think the mods would publish a fic if it was written in the way i type? :rainbowlaugh:.....

Oh, and I was wrong to assume that the story itself was not proofread.

toplel.....

Twilight didn't need guards.

Because she and her friends are literally the most powerful ponies that have existed in all of history,

that didn't stop the previous "most powerful ponies that have existed in all of history" from having guards....

please just fix up that description.

no
because fuck english that's why :eeyup: , fucking garbage language....

Actually, I may not have to look through the entirety of this story, since it's pretty much the same until the ending compared to the episode.

(wow i fucking had to add the i in brackets thing just so it made the copied letters appeared slanted again , formatting like this is such a hassle isn't there a better way it can be done?...)
if that's how you feel then im sorry , i could try and explain all the sublet adjustments i made the narrative if you like....

The only advice I could give is please do a better job checking your spelling mistakes and grammatical errors.

my browser has a spellcheck , so if something's wrong with spelling it's either bad spellcheck or i purposefully wrote it that way for better effect....
for grammar though we tried our best i guess , if you wanna offer your proofreading services by my guest....

Nightmare Moon is hated by all. If this was the Starlight from the normal universe, then she should know why it's a bad idea to trust Nightmare Moon.

ok why is everyone commenting here so ignorant of the deep pony lore from the pilot episode???

as of the first episode literally nobody in current day equestria knows about nmm aside from celestia (cause she fucken fought and banished her sister) and twilight (cause she read it in a book) , and only the ponies of ponyvile know of nmm cause she appeared in front of them all , aside from them nobody else has knowledge of nmm's existence , and specially not some ponies in a backwater village on the outskirts of equestria....

WAIT WAIT WAIT I EVEN HAVE STARLIGHT IN THE FIC SAY "Whoa, who's that?" when she sees nmm for the first time indicating she has no prior knowledge of who nmm is , and all twilight tells her is that she wanted eternal night and got power to get it , just like what starlight's doing , no reason to think she's much different than celestia , who nmm directly tells them is her sister......

Please break this down into smaller chapters.

i actually debated doing that for a bit , but decided to keep it as a single unbroken story since that's what the plot for the original episode actually is , the cut off for the second part of the episode is just due to scheduling confliction , a confliction i don't have here so i didn't break it up into smaller chapters....

if it's too much for you then i would suggest reading other stuff and building up your reading capabilities till it's not , i usually don't like reading really long things either , but when they're really good stories the longer the better as far as im concerned , here's a perfect example of such.....
http://www.fimfiction.net/story/52588/who-rules-travels-and-travesties
(nom's who rules series is fucking amazing i recommend it if you haven't read it yet.....)

Instead of expanding on Starlight's character, let's just make her even more shallow.

WOW :facehoof::facehoof::facehoof::facehoof::facehoof::facehoof::facehoof::facehoof::facehoof::facehoof::facehoof::facehoof:

that IS the expansion of her character , of which before she didn't have any , the natural build up to her realizing that she has empathy (which is why she felt bad) , and that that's important , expands her shallow character to being something more...

she's still shallow and selfish , but now she understands not being a fucking prick to others to get what you want is important too.....

Holy crap. That was actually pretty clever.

you think so? i actually thought it was super cliche , but was far to easy and important a plot device for me to pass up....

honestly, if you really worked hard on this story

i really did :l , took me about a month to make this....

fixed up the mistakes

you haven't pointed any out....

don't type in call caps when a character is screaming,

that's what caps are for though....

and get a REALLY talented editor,

again if you wanna improve it be my guest :l ....

then this story would definitely be in my favorites.

i see lots of others already doing that in my notification feed :coolphoto:

Also, do not delete this comment in fear of what people might see. I have spent a fair amount of time on this, and by deleting someone else's comment, other people will view it as you not being able to take an opinion.

i fucking hate it when assholes do that , i often back up any large comments i make in fear of all that effort being wasted cause some dipshit decided it would be a good idea to waste it....

again , im not retarded , or an asshole , your comments are safe with me....

For now, keep on writing, and improve.

part of the reason i made this was to test how well i could write , cause i've had an idea for a much grander fic brewing in my mind for years , i'll be still waiting on more feedback before i decide if im gonna commit to doing that though , cause it would be a huge commitment since i clocked in like an average of 1k words per 3 hours of trying to write , so since this is 13k words long that means i spent at least 40 hours making this (and like 3 hours replying to you lol) , i don't even put that much time into most games......


now , with all the said , did you enjoy the fic c: ?....
(pinkiesmile isn't working for some reason?...)

6865471 i know, it's just where i got the idea, i don't mean to be mean about it

classmates and friends are different things, from the 1st ep, they tried to make friends with her but Twi didn't want it

6865471 based on your ratings, this seems a LOT worse.

6865521 im pretty sure the implication of that scene was that they were enough of friends for them to invite twilight , but i guess it's not made exactly clear so it's up for interpretation....

6865527 ratings from people who didn't read it and just hate the starlight character enough to downthumb anything that has her in it....

what do you think about it though?....

I couldn't exactly say if I enjoyed the story or not. The concept is pretty interesting, seeing of how one universe out of the many can determine the very fate of the main one.

However, the game "Evolve" had a good concept. Look how it's doing now.

It's neither a like or a dislike from me, as to why I didn't give a thumbs up or down.

Oh, and large reviews in the comments aren't a very rare sight on this website.

6865609 well Twi did basically say friends are a wast of studding time and she had to be thinking that for years so even if she was there friend, she stopped going to b-day parties for a very long time also who goes that down hill after one friend does not turn up, i think that was also dumb

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seeing of how one universe out of the many can determine the very fate of the main one.

?....

what do you mean by 'how evolve is doing'? the game looks functional balanced and super fun , that's all it needs to be , hope you weren't trying to bring in something as meaningless as profits or popularity into the discussion....

oh well , sry you didn't enjoy it...

i know huge comments talking about fics aren't rare i've done that a lot myself , but i never declared my comments ahead of time to be a review for the fic lol...

wait , you weren't the one that downthumbed my previous response to you are you?....


6865696 anything specific you wanted to discuss?...


6865743 i will agree with you there the breakdown was an over reaction given the circumstances , but im willing to let it slide for the message of the episode to be told.....

6865787 i like messages but i think story is more important

My god the mountains of comments are ridiculous I'll be sure to check this out

6865517

no

because fuck english that's why :eeyup: , fucking garbage language....

I can't stand for this. The rest I can ignore, but I will not stand for you trampling over my mother tongue. Write what you want on your own computer but don't insult the language just because you're too lazy to use it properly.

6865972 see? down thumbs that are given are always dumb , and i'll never understand the mentality of a down thumber.....
have an upthumb instead on the big post....


6866846 ridiculous? there's only 25 comments and like 5 of them are from me :applejackunsure:....


6867099 watch the first bit of this

and get back to me on that....

6868135 haven't you seen the length of these comments well except mine I try to keep it a little short.:facehoof:

6868140 well to be fair half of the length of his large comment was copy/paste of the fic text , and then i made a big reply back....

You are the worst example of the entitlement this fandom often shows. Failing to understand that there is no "good" or "bad", objectively speaking, when it's about certain ideas for an episode, only "I like this idea" or "I don't like it", and then having the chutzpah of claiming to be able to make it better and writing a fic where you say exactly that.
Right on top of the foodchain there. You should ask DHX and Hasbro for a job as writer and see what they say about it once you send them the first draft.

6868716 and this is an example of a retarded comment like i was talking about earlier in case anyone was wondering , let's examine the logic of each statement and how they relate to each other shall we?...

You are the worst example of the entitlement this fandom often shows. Failing to understand that there is no "good" or "bad", objectively speaking,

ok first off it's hilarious how you present 2 mutually exclusive notions literally 1 sentence after the other and play it off as if you're assertion is correct , you state "there is no "good" or "bad", objectively speaking" , which is correct , but then state how im objectively the "worst example" of something (and by that you meant i am the best example of the thing you're explaining you don't like here , but because this language itself is also retarded that was the way it was worded) , 0 self awareness right off the bat that's a 'good' start.....

when it's about certain ideas for an episode, when it's about certain ideas for an episode, only "I like this idea" or "I don't like it", and then having the chutzpah of claiming to be able to make it better and writing a fic where you say exactly that.

because the fic isn't about ideas i like more or less , it's about not being retarded , this video is a good example of just how far the level of retard gets in the season final which i recommend to all....

You should ask DHX and Hasbro for a job as writer and see what they say about it once you send them the first draft.

ok so obviously the implication here is that "DHX and Hasbro" are the arbiters of quality to you , and that they would reject anything i would send them because it wouldn't be good enough for them , but wait isn't there "there is no "good" or "bad"" though? guess you better go tell "DHX and Hasbro" that so they'll stop being "the worst example of the entitlement this fandom often shows." thinking what they create is better than what i or anyone else could create , but wait do they actually think that though? or did you actually just project your own perception of what it is you ""I like this idea" or "I don't like it"" to imply that what "DHX and Hasbro" makes is "good"?

seems to me that it is you that is

the worst example of the entitlement this fandom often shows. Failing to understand that there is no "good" or "bad", objectively speaking,

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i encourage you to rethink things and try again though....

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and this is an example of a retarded comment like i was talking about earlier in case anyone was wondering

Every time someone you argue with uses the word "retarded", you know that you are right with everything you said about that person.
It's like a magical keyword to recognize uncivilized people like you. I even could have stopped reading your comment after seeing this word and it wouldn't have changed anything about understanding it for me.

let's examine the logic of each statement and how they relate to each other shall we?...

Ah, more arrogance. Good. Gooood. Let it flow through you.

you state "there is no "good" or "bad", objectively speaking" , which is correct , but then state how im objectively the "worst example" of something

There is no good or bad in regards to episodes of the show, but there's certainly a possibility that someone is worse than other people. I have seen a lot of entitlement in this fandom where bronies claimed episodes to be "bad" because there's something in it that they didn't like or that they didn't understand, but rarely ever I see anyone who writes a fic and says "lol, this episode was so bad, here, lemme make it better!". You are only the second case where I see this.
Which makes you, in regards to fandom entitlement, worse than almost any other brony who ever called an episode "bad" for unjustified reasons.
I find it very fascinating how people like you, once criticized for their bad attitude, always try to defend it, which often happens in that way to leave out important parts of one of the opponents sentences to make it look like he said something else.
You always think it works too.

this video is a good example of just how far the level of retard gets in the season final which i recommend to all....

"Retarded" Counter: 4

ok so obviously the implication here is that "DHX and Hasbro" are the arbiters of quality to you , and that they would reject anything i would send them because it wouldn't be good enough for them , but wait isn't there "there is no "good" or "bad"" though?

The implication here is that, while you might have an idea for an episode that is good, you won't be able to execute it as well as the show's creators who have many years of writing experience and know this show better than anyone else does as the actual creators of it, so the chances that they would hire you and accept a script by you is very slim.
The really important quintessence of what I said, though, is that your arrogant behavior doesn't make you look like you have any talent behind you, because this is behavior that only talentless people show off. They are the only ones who have to rely on arrogant bragging.
In fact, how you claim that you can make it so much better, it makes you look like you're jealous of the excellent quality of the episode and that you want to have some fame on your own by picking on the episode and badmouthing it.

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I even could have stopped reading your comment after seeing this word and it wouldn't have changed anything about understanding it for me.

that is also retarded , whelp guess there goes the rest of my response to you according to you....

There is no good or bad in regards to episodes of the show,

mmk thanks for making that distinction before hand........

but there's certainly a possibility that someone is worse than other people.

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you can't just exclude some topics to scrutiny like that , that's not how logic or reality works , either it's applicable to all or it's not , unless you can explain logically from the ground up the perimeters from which it's restricted , but i don't think you can do that....

I have seen a lot of entitlement in this fandom

entitlement is a perspective , it's not something you can 'see' , someone has to tell you that's what they think in order for you to make such a statement , you wouldn't happen to have any such exmaples on hand would you?....

I find it very fascinating how people like you, once criticized for their bad attitude, always try to defend it,

i haven't 'defended' anything in our conversation , all i'e down is point out logical inconsistencies in what you've said....

which often happens in that way to leave out important parts of one of the opponents sentences to make it look like he said something else.

wow you really do have 0 self awareness don't you?
here i'll spell it out for you , since you seem to not have noticed , but my previous response to you quoted and responded to everything you said in your comment , literally not a single character you put in your comment was left out of my response , so why you're mentioning that here is beyond me.....
.....or maybe it's because that's what you're doing here now?....

The implication here is that, while you might have an idea for an episode that is good, you won't be able to execute it as well

ok , nice implication , now where's your proof?....

as the show's creators who have many years of writing experience

are you like really new to this fandom or something? the creator of this show - faust - has long since left it's production , and there's multiple teams of staff working on it that undergo regular overhaul like any other project team would.....

and know this show better than anyone else does as the actual creators of it,

i could cite at least a dozen things done in this season final episode that clearly prove otherwise , like im not even sure what you're trying to prove by making such a ridiculous statement anymore at this point....

The really important quintessence of what I said, though, is that your arrogant behavior doesn't make you look like you have any talent behind you,

oh ok that's what we're getting at here , well im sorry you perceive my actions in such a way , that was not my intent at any time....

also of course i don't have talent , that doesn't exist , how can one have something that doesn't exist?....

because this is behavior that only talentless people show off.

i know plenty of highly professional and 'successful' persons who exhibit the behavior you're trying to describe here whom im sure you would find far exceed your expectations of what you consider to be 'talent' that you're mentioning here....

In fact, how you claim that you can make it so much better, it makes you look like you're jealous of the excellent quality of the episode

aaaaand now you're back to being insane again , you literally just got done affirming that

There is no good or bad in regards to episodes of the show,

except that

you're jealous of the excellent quality of the episode

you have 0 logical consistency in what you say and really it's becoming a chore for me to have to respond to you now , please stop being usane before responding again to continue the discussion....


also , have you read the fic yet? i think you'd like it....

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that's not how logic or reality works , either it's applicable to all or it's not

It's good to see that you are such an expert for both of these things. :trollestia:

i could cite at least a dozen things done in this season final episode that clearly prove otherwise

Now we get to the part where it gets interesting. Go ahead, I'm curious to what you have to say.

6872643 k , i'll make a blog post about it later when i can be bothered....

but before i do that , did you watch the video i linked below? i notice that with all your complaining here you have yet to address at all any of the content of my fic or that video i linked to give reasons why the episode was shit , im not going to bother putting more effort into explaining this if you're not even going to look at any of it....

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After all your high horse riding here, I don't even bother to look at that and neither is it necessary. I can guess by all that stuff that you wrote up there that you are just a whiny, entitled fan who thinks that it's law when he says that the episode is bad because he didn't like it and that you probably even didn't understand the plot of the episode.
I would advice you at this point to learn the difference between your subjective taste and the objective quality of the episode, but I think you wouldn't understand that either.
But I'm still curious to how you explain with your own words why you believe that the episode is bad, even more so now. :3

6873048 oh nice , you're an asshole too on top of it all....

regardless though , making a dedicated blog for discussing the garbage episode was something else i wanted to do , so ima do that now , and the fic will be linked to it of course so a notification will be sent out when i post it.....

no stop polluting my fic's comments with your dribble....

nice but still not the best way to go I think. I think the best way is to just go with SG being crazy and pathetic all the way. To just have her crack down in a somewhat similar fashion as Azula did in avatar (though not as extremely) and Twilight feeling both contempt but also some pity for her. That she truly is just an adult foal and she is then sent to a psychiatric treatment facility in Canterlot.

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I'm not agreeing with that other guy but I don't think you should call any episode "garbage". People worked hard on it and many fans loved it. I can't blame them for being upset if they love something and you say it's no-good and you can do better.
I think something like "My version of season 5 end" would be better.

6881602 i never watched what you're referring to so i don't know what the situation was with that , but im sure the background for each character is completely different , and i consider equestrian society to be far better to conduce healthy upbringings for it's ponies than our 'modern' societies today are , so there's less possibility to produce more aberrant behaviors to result in ponies acting the way you describe there.....


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I'm not agreeing with that other guy

i'd be very amazing if someone did....

but I don't think you should call any episode "garbage".

you're right , it was more like fucking trash....

People worked hard on it

i beg to differ , have you read my blog post about the show breaking down the many ways in which it's utter shit?....

and many fans loved it.

that's the even sadder part about all this , people today will gobble up whatever garbage is thrown their way.....

I can't blame them for being upset if they love something and you say it's no-good and you can do better.

shouldn't they be overjoyed as opposed to upset to hear someone claim to provide them something that's better than something they apparently already love?....

I think something like "My version of season 5 end" would be better.

to me that sounds like i would be saying i came up with my own original idea for how to end the season , but what i actually did with this fic was took elements from the writers who made the episode and made them not suck sweaty manticore balls.....

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Just because it's less likely doesn't mean it can't happen.

I'm saying that you should try to be a little less hostile. If you are being venomous towards an episode then people are going to be equally venomous towards you.
I'm not arguing about whatever you're right or wrong but just try to be more civilized about it.

that's the even sadder part about all this , people today will gobble up whatever garbage is thrown their way...

The fact that people love it makes it good. No matter what people want to say otherwise. However in the long term it will not give a lot of potential of more material.

i beg to differ , have you read my blog post about the show breaking down the many ways in which it's utter shit?....

That's one thing that you need to keep in mind. Many say that the writers were "lazy" and that's never the case. They worked hard on it and what people see as lazy is mostly just safe writing. Also when you have a well functioning team writing strong episodes comes easy while with a lesser capable team that isn't working well together.

shouldn't they be overjoyed as opposed to upset to hear someone claim to provide them something that's better than something they apparently already love?....

no, that you think it's better may cause others to be more likely to like it. A strong story only makes it more likely that people like it, nothing more.

You should try to tone down that hostility. Try to love and tolerate the opinion that you don't agree with.

6881970 of course , i just explained my reasoning for why i wouldn't write any characters that way , that is also lazy writing which is what i set out to correct with this fic not follow suit in....

The fact that people love it makes it good.

i love evil............

Many say that the writers were "lazy" and that's never the case.

i beg to differ yet again , seriously i encourage you to read the revelations i made in that blog i even linked it in the description of the fic....

no, that you think it's better may cause others to be more likely to like it.

....isn't this agreeing what i had to say there though?....

Try to love and tolerate the opinion that you don't agree with.

right , people should love and tolerate my opinion that i made a better narrative in this fic than the writers did for the ending for season 5 , it works both ways....

also forgot to say before , im glad you enjoyed the fic....

right , people should love and tolerate my opinion that i made a better narrative in this fic than the writers did for the ending for season 5 , it works both ways....

it only works if it goes both ways. You should tolerate it if people think your version is worse, no matter how strongly you think it is better.

6883091 that's what i just said to you though :l .....

but really , fluff words all around , how do you expect me to 'tolerate' that and how do i expect you to 'tolerate' this? rhetorical question we're having a conversation about literally nothing here.....

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I'm not saying I liked the ending of season 5 either but I'm saying that you shouldn't be so rude and hostile towards it. There are more polite and civilized ways to do it. I like that you make a version you like better instead of just whine but you should just try to be more respectful towards others that like it.

6883417 DERP UGH why did it take me so long to realize what the problem in the communication here was and the way to go about making it work? fuck im dumb sometimes....

your requests aren't doable im afraid....

watch all of this

and you'll understand what i mean by that and how to actually formulate your request of me....

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.......okay.....that's................official:twilightoops:

Just try to keep in mind that people will disagree and that you need to have respect for that.

6883754 not doable.....

what's official?....

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Well, at least you're honest with me.

One strange thing though is that you have a lot of fun reading low level stories so I never expected you to have such things.

6886394 why would anyone not be honest ever?....

huh? what are you talking about?....

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Many people have problems being honest.

You like many diaper stories that aren't high level. Such as this one: https://www.fimfiction.net/story/275894/lessons-in-the-carnal-arts

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