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One cannot experience the unknowable without being forever changed. Now Sunset Shimmer must struggle with that truth as she tries to remain reconnect with the world she once left behind.

Warning: This Story features Mysticism, Magic, Wonder and Awe. If these things offend, I give my pity.

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Comments ( 82 )

Stuck in powered up state.. yea Sunset's going to need tests designed for the princesses

This sounds really good. I can't wait for more.

*le extremely dramatic gasp!*

Well, I'm guessing that this is gonna get a skele-ton of likes.

heh heh heh.... I think it's funny. Tough crowd today.

Huh, would've thought that something one was never told about that altered some basic part of your appearance and inner functions might have freaked one out a bit more than "Oh, cool I guess".

Guess not though, Sunset seems super casual about all this :trixieshiftright:

wow great picture for the story

I just have to ask. What do people have against a Human Sunset Shimmer. She either dies or just doesn't exist?

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Huh, would've thought that something one was never told about that altered some basic part of your appearance and inner functions might have freaked one out a bit more than "Oh, cool I guess".

Guess not though, Sunset seems super casual about all this :trixieshiftright:

She's deeply inclined to trust the obvious source of the changes, wants to spend time with her friend, she realizes whatever it is will require some adjusting but that trust precludes her from worrying.

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I just have to ask. What do people have against a Human Sunset Shimmer. She either dies or just doesn't exist?

A couple of answers to that.
A) If you include an originally Human Sunset Shimmer, that's pretty much your fics entire premise. If you are doing anything else you don't have twin meetings.
B) For a lot of people, Sunset Shimmer /is/ thought of as human so it just feels odd making another version the human version. Then there would be two Human Sunset Shimmers.
C) Sunset is a character with a lot of baggage tied to her situation. You have to make the duplicate Sunset Shimmer while untying her from her situation, this is actually legitimately hard. You could of course ignore that baggage but then she will feel off, it does after all have to be the same character.

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Usually having two Sunsets is just inconvenient. It is very similar to two Twilights and as such not very interesting, though some fics do play with the idea.

6668767 Not really. It's lazy writing for the most part. It's always just convinate that an event kills Sunset's family and pony Sunset survives because she is a unicorn and has a flare.

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Not really. It's lazy writing for the most part. It's always just convinate that an event kills Sunset's family and pony Sunset survives because she is a unicorn and has a flare.

I'm cutting this off here.
If you want to ask why the only kind of Sunset Shimmer fics aren't "She meets her doppleganger" ask In a thread dedicated to that, thank you.

6670098 Thank you for telling him off. He means well. He's really nice too! Ask him. BTW, I AM SO HAPPY THIS IS BACK! YES!

is this a remake of your other fic

Soooo... Does she just straight-up just ditch her friends?

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is this a remake of your other fic

Yes.

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Soooo... Does she just straight-up just ditch her friends?

Humans aren't ponies, it's a perfectly normal thing for humans to leave their high school friends. To her friends where they were going and what they were going to do were more important than how they could possibly stay together.

Does she ditch them, do they ditch her, or do they exist in a social context that encourages them to part? (Hint: It's C.)

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What you say is true. But it just feels, unsatisfying, without the goodbye or at least her telling one or more of them were she was going. But, maybe that's just me.

Other than that, good story so far.

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What you say is true. But it just feels, unsatisfying, without the goodbye or at least her telling one or more of them were she was going. But, maybe that's just me.
Other than that, good story so far.

Well Showing that reason is the first thing I did, and even with that she considered stay a valid option.

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I shall concede. I would have liked to have seen a goodbye, but I can live without it. Just one question.
The journal. Did she leave it with one of them, take it with her, or are you planning something around it that telling me anything would be spoilery?

There you butt iread it. “In stone and complete

you need to fix that


also i agree with loco it feels odd that you have the beginning scene at all and just jump straight into the story without doing more with it.

no one can rush this because this is amazing. Also is Sunset really Celestia's daughter, I have thought it could be true but is it real?

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no one can rush this because this is amazing. Also is Sunset really Celestia's daughter, I have thought it could be true but is it real?

It's never been confirmed or denied. But It's within possibility, so you take or leave as your fic demands.

Here it adds more to Sunset's want and apprehension to return home. It also keeps things simpler because I don't need to go create a Family for Sunset which would be a major deal either way, I can just combine that with dealing with Celestia.

6776141 I like that idea a lot that is also pretty creative

Loving this story so far, but you need an editor to go over this chapter.

oohhhhh I am excited for the next one this is amazing

The mysticism in this story is like none I've ever seen on this website. Kudos to you on such a fine story.

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The mysticism in this story is like none I've ever seen on this website. Kudos to you on such a fine story.

Thank you. Write what you know and all that I guess?

It really is disappointing how little Mysticism there is on this site, and for Sunset Shimmer in particular. The FIM universe is ripe for Mysticism, and they beat us over the head that Sunset deals with that space in Friendship Games.

6808375 Indeed, it truly is a shame that mysticism is underused in such a fantasy-type universe.

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Question: What exactly is Mysticism?

By the dictionary

belief that union with or absorption into the Deity or the absolute, or the spiritual apprehension of knowledge inaccessible to the intellect, may be attained through contemplation and self-surrender.

More broadly, it's the valuing of experience and insight as true understanding rather than knowledge.
I mean on the day to day level you've got something like look before you sleep, where we see Twilight try to apply knowledge to a sleepover and it fails.

A big part of the past stuff was giving a reason and shown difference to twilight in their relation to magic, as to the established more mystical attitudes sunset takes.

And yes the next chapter is taking forever to write, Imagine writing a conversation between two people who value experience over knowledge talking about shit that's by definition unknowable. It's hard.

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And yes the next chapter is taking forever to write, Imagine writing a conversation between two people who value experience over knowledge talking about shit that's by definition unknowable. It's hard.

I wasn't asking about that. Until I read it just the other day, I'd forgotten all about it.

No I'm just confused. mysticism is not my thing.

Sorry man. I'm out interesting concept but jsut don't like where you've gone with it.

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Sorry man. I'm out interesting concept but just don't like where you've gone with it.

I'm sure someone will come along and fill you in, Or you'll get more context in later chapters.

I love mysticism, even if I don't entirely understand it. Then again, that is what makes it great.

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Should be Chapter 5

No, pretty sure this is chapter 4.

reading fics like this makes fimfiction enjoyable.

verry good story so far update soon

while im glad to see this update afew minor complaint s

1. twilight is not one to care about who is stronger

2. this gracefull blossom comes across as rather sueish with all of her powers and being a better flyer than even rainbow dash and all of that

oh and 1 last qustion does this take freindship games into acount or not

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1. twilight is not one to care about who is stronger

Not stronger, equals. There's more to equality than power. Twilight has very few ponies she can have a relationship as equals with, and now that is crumbling around her as Sunset is entering this whole new world that she can't experience.
It's "What about Discord." writ large in her mind.

2. this gracefull blossom comes across as rather sueish with all of her powers and being a better flyer than even rainbow dash and all of that

The original version had a mentor character who everyone glomped onto and I didn't want to cut that, Besides when doing mystical bullshit sometimes you really do just need an exodump(Like as much as I need to do more showing, espicially considering mysticism I have to get you in the right mindset.), I also needed a character who existed in that world whose understanding was fundamentally different so blossom had to play that role as well.
I do try to keep blossom in the background to hopefully avoid the reason you stated, she isn't the focus but a guide(and later temptation.) for Sunset into the world of Mystical truths. I possibly overdid her use of magic but I was attempting to communicate the filter of her enlightenment through those actions.

But really sueishness is about story gravity and lack of conflict.

oh and 1 last qustion does this take freindship games into acount or not

Yes, delicious delicious confirmation that Sunset has Rainbow Powers forever.

7079786 thanks for the response *smile*

7080525 ok *grabs a stack of coments and shoves them in your mouth*

but any ways yea so ive been wondering is sunset permently staying in equestria or what cus i personally think it sbest for her to return to the human world in the end (ill still read the story either way) its just that is her home

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but any ways yea so ive been wondering is sunset permently staying in equestria or what cus i personally think it sbest for her to return to the human world in the end (ill still read the story either way) its just that is her home

Is it really once high school is over and her friends split up?

7080626 see the thing is when you fallow that train of thought you are saying friendship is only magic if it involves ponies human friendships you can just cast aside

in RL there are some groups of friends who stick together after high school into college and the rest of there lives

is that not part of the reason so many of us where drawn to the show as it showed people with verry different can have a unbreakable life long friendship

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see the thing is when you fallow that train of thought you are saying friendship is only magic if it involves ponies human friendships you can just cast aside.

I'd blame social factors far more than magic/lack of magic.

in RL there are some groups of friends who stick together after high school into college and the rest of there lives

Sure but you just made a big assumption, they all go to college. The same college in fact, so you are assuming these life long friends are part of the same social class.
Applejack is definitely not going to college. She's southern and blue collar and wouldn't pretend to not be that for the interview so college is right out.
Pinkie pie probably won't and will stay working at the cakes.
Fluttershy will likely go to a community college or trade school for veterinary.
RainbowDash will probably get a sports scholarship, probably to a good school. Of all the cast she has the most options of colleges, but even then she'd need to go to one with a good team.
Rarity with her desire to escape her class will however definitely go to a live in college so she can break into that social class.
SciTwi is explicitly upper class, and already talking about college and good colleges the kind you need connections to even think of going too.

is that not part of the reason so many of us where drawn to the show as it showed people with verry different can have a unbreakable life long friendship

The show exists in a world that would make marx giddy at how little class variation there is.

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\now you are just judging people by what you expect out of some one in there social class there are plenty of souther bell farmers who got o college hell you seem to think rainbow is aiming for a sports career when she is more interested in her music goals and human rarity has shown no interest in getting into the upper class either

see what you are doing is letting that "social norm" mindset make you fallow it instead of having faith in the power of friendship

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now you are just judging people by what you expect out of some one in there social class there are plenty of souther bell farmers who got o college

But this involves passing as, and eventually changing into the new class. (ie adopting it's tastes, signals, and values.)
That's not an applejack thing to do.

hell you seem to think rainbow is aiming for a sports career when she is more interested in her music goals

Then you could mark her off going to college to leave her friends, and mark her for leaving them for a music career.

and human rarity has shown no interest in getting into the upper class either

She's Rarity, trying to be a social climber is a core part of her character.

see what you are doing is letting that "social norm" mindset make you fallow it instead of having faith in the power of friendship

It is better to compromise your ideals than sacrifice them.

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