"So last night I started thinkin'," Rainbow Dash said. "If Princess Twilight did it with Flash and got pregnant, would their baby be a centaur?"
"GAH!" Twilight Sparkle said, face paling. "Rainbow Dash!"
"I did say Princess Twilight," Rainbow pointed out. "As in, not you?"
"That's not what—well, actually, that also, but—"
"Rainbow Dash, whatever is wrong with your brain?" Rarity wondered.
"Eh, I dunno," Pinkie Pie said. "It's not the weirdest thing any of us have ever come up with. Actually, it's a pretty good question." She tilted her head. "Do they even have centaurs in Equestria?"
Sunset Shimmer rolled her eyes. "First of all, I'm pretty sure that's not how it works, Rainbow, so...probably not. Second, I..." She frowned. "I'm not sure, actually. I think I remember reading something about centaurs once? But it's been a long time..." Brow furrowing, she reached into her bag and pulled out the journal, writing a quick note.
A few minutes later, it glowed, and Sunset read the response. Her face fell. "Ouch. Bad question to ask," she said. She hastily wrote an apology, then closed the journal and put it away.
"Well?" Rainbow asked.
Sunset sighed. "Apparently there are, or were, centaurs in Equestria. Or rather, from a distant kingdom outside Equestria. The only centaur known to ponykind is named Tirek, and he recently attempted to conquer Equestria and almost succeeded. She said something about him having the power to drain pony magic, and escaping Tartarus, then they fought him and put him back, but he destroyed half of Ponyville and burned down her home." She shrugged. "So yeah, I think centaurs are a sore subject for Twilight."
"Ouch," Rainbow said. "Umm...yeah...forget I asked, then."
* * * * *
Everyone who knew Pinkie Pie had long since learned to ignore her bizarre antics. However, sometimes Pinkie Pie was too random to ignore.
"What's she doing?" Twilight Sparkle wondered.
Most of Pinkie's friends were gathered on the back steps of the school, watching Pinkie Pie roll giant signage letters around the school track. She'd roll one letter for a while, let it drop somewhere, step back, tilt her head, then either move it some more or disappear for a few minutes and return with another large letter, repeating the process.
"Is she working on something for Principal Celestia?" Rarity wondered.
"Ah don't think so," Applejack said. "She don't seem ta be spellin' nothin'."
"Girls?" Principal Celestia asked from behind the group. "What is Pinkie Pie doing on the track?"
At that moment, Pinkie began pushing a cart loaded with three Es and two As down the track.
"Looks like she's having a vowel movement," Sunset Shimmer said.
Everyone stared at her. One of the Es fell off Pinkie's cart.
Celestia rolled her eyes and went back inside without comment.
* * * * *
Sunset Shimmer couldn't sleep.
It was late Friday night. Since Thursday evening, she'd been dealing with menstrual symptoms, ultimately leading her to forego an outing with her friends. All day Friday, she'd been suffering through cramps—not the worst cramps in the world, but still pretty bad—and bloating, and had spent the day curled up in bed with her heating pad, doped up on Dammitol and drifting in and out of a fitful sleep.
Now it was half past midnight, and Sunset was wide awake. Her entire body was stiff and sore from lying in bed all day, so she got up and went to the bathroom, then padded around her apartment. She had thought of checking her e-mail or reading some of the books piling up in her digital library, but she dismissed those ideas fairly quickly as her eyes were puffy and bleary. Instead, she went to the freezer, grabbed a carton of chocolate covered cherry ice cream, plopped down on the couch, and turned on the television, keeping the volume low and flicking through the channels. She opted not to bother with the program guide or even pay attention to the info boxes that popped up, instead resorting to the refuge of the truly bored and listless: blind channel-surfing.
Because she generally kept herself busy during the day and believed in a proper eight hours of sleep at night, Sunset had very little experience with late night television. She assumed it was more or less the same as daytime and primetime television.
"Stop having a boring pussy! Try Vajujubeast for thirty days! If you're not satisfied, keep it and get your money back!"
Apparently, she was very, very wrong.
The screen showed two women excitedly applying rhinestones to their private areas with what looked like a cross between a label maker and a hot glue gun, while a guy wearing a headset gesticulated animatedly behind them while waving around the product in question and extolling the virtues of pasting plastic jewels to your crotch.
"What...the..." Sunset could only stare in horror as the commercial went on and on and on.
When the commercial finally ended, it was followed by several promos for bad, low-budget horror movies of the type Rainbow Dash was a fan of. The channel's late night movie returned, a grainy, older film full of explosions and smoke and screaming. It was a subtitled foreign film; a rubber suit monster that looked like a bipedal elephant with an upraised, erect, extremely phallic trunk was stomping through a cheap cardboard set. Occasionally, it would trumpet loudly and spray fire from its trunk. This would cut to Neighponese people running around in a panic, and somebody screaming at the top of their lungs. The subtitles said "Dongzilla!", but Sunset's ears were sharp enough to pick up that they were actually saying "Chinkozo!", which she guessed was probably Neighponese for "Dongzilla."
Shaking her head, she changed the channel.
"Diet Dogs: The Leaner Wiener!" a cheerful voice proclaimed. The commercial faded.
"And now back to the Late Late Movie: Queer For My Horses, on Throwback!"
Sunset wrinkled her nose as a scene played out of a cowboy lovingly fondling a stallion's mane while giving the poor beast the moon eyes. "Why can't Ah quit you?" the cowboy asked the horse. Sunset shuddered and changed the channel again.
She was immediately blinded by a bright strobe from the TV. "Gah!"
"—with an attack strobe to stun attackers. This flashlight is so durable it can withstand being run over by a tank and so bright it can be seen from a helicopter!"
Sunset rubbed her eyes, which watered and stung and had black spots dancing in them. "Why would they even show it doing that?" she moaned. By the time she could see again, the commercial had ended, and the programming—a late-night music video block—kicked in. A bunch of heavily made-up rockers with huge, feathered hair were dancing around on the screen wearing costumes made of badly clashing animal prints. The little popup in the corner of the screen identified the band and video as:
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"Cum On Over (Again and Again)"
Sunset groaned. She was just about to change the channel again when the video suddenly froze. Frowning, she pressed the button to change the channel on the remote.
The screen went black. The infobox for the next channel came up. Then the screen stayed black.
After thirty seconds, the screen turned gray, and informed her that the channel was not available. Sunset frowned and hit 'Guide', then started picking channels at random.
Nothing was working.
"Great," she muttered. "An outage." Shaking her head, she picked up her phone. When she input her lock code, a notification was waiting for her:
WiFi not available
Sunset frowned. Grunting, she got up from her comfortable spot and headed over to where her router lived. She leaned down and checked it.
Lights were blinking that should not be blinking.
"Great," Sunset muttered. Shaking her head, she opened her contacts and quick-dialed the cable company.
//Welcome! Canterlot Cable is now Prism. For quality assurance, this call may be monitored.//
Sunset suffered through the menu of options, then said, "My internet's not working."
//Got it. One second while I pull up your technical support information.// A pause. //We've received reports of an outage in your area affecting cable TV, internet, and phone service. Our technicians are working to fix the problem as quickly as possible—//
Sunset disconnected the call and sighed. "Great," she groaned. "Can't sleep, no Internet, no TV." She considered using her mobile data to watch EweTube or something, but her eyes were still feeling pretty cruddy and that was an awful strain—not to mention, it would burn through her data and it was only the sixth day of the month. She flopped back down on the couch, massaging the bridge of her nose and glaring at the unresponsive television.
"This sucks..."
* * * * *
"Oh, dudes, did you see it?" Rainbow asked suddenly. "Goku going Ultra Instinct is so awesome! Man, he just gets cooler and cooler and more awesome and kickass all the time!"
"Oy, DBZ," Pinkie groaned, rolling her eyes. "It's just...the same thing over and over again. How do you not get tired of it?"
"Because it's awesome!" Rainbow retorted. "And it's actually Dragon Ball Super right now?" She jumped up and started doing poses. "KAMEHAMEHA!"
"Yeah, I'm gonna be honest?" Sunset said. "Vegeta's the best character, hands down. I...don't really think Goku's all that cool. Actually, he's pretty lame."
"Lame?!" Rainbow cried. "What th—Goku is awesome and kicks everybody's butt all the time! He always gets stronger and always wins and saves the day! How can you say he's lame?!"
"Uh, because he doesn't lose ever?" Sunset pointed out. "He's always pulling some new trick out of his butt to win fights he shouldn't be able to win. It was cool back when it was just Super Saiyan, but now it's just...he's always getting some stupid new upgrade to make him hit harder and it's always Goku who gets it first just because he's the hero, and...honestly? For being the 'hero', he really kind of isn't."
Rainbow pulled a face. "Oh god, you're not gonna start in on the whole 'the Tournament of Power is his fault' thing, are you?"
"No, because that's explained right in the show," Sunset said. "No, my problem with Goku is that he's a selfish, thoughtless jerk who only cares about finding his next fight."
"She's got a point," Twilight said. "Sunset loaned me the entire manga over winter break. It's not the kind of thing I normally read? But I got into it because of the clever wordplay, the humor, and the characters. And honestly? Goku kinda doesn't think about anything but himself."
Rainbow stared at them, jaw agape. "Wha—BULLSHIT!" she roared. "He's always saving the world and the universe over and over again! He takes down every big baddie that comes along to kill everyone! How can you say he—"
Sunset held up a hand. "Rainbow," she said patiently. "What does Goku do when he's not fighting?"
Rainbow frowned. "Eating, mostly," she said. "Or training. Or..." She bit her lip. "Well, he's a farmer, right? I mean, he does farm stuff."
"His wife makes him do farm stuff," Sunset pointed out. "And if he suddenly decides he wants to do something else, he just leaves right in the middle of the harvest."
Rainbow held up a finger, then paused. "Uhh..." Her brow furrowed. "Okay, yeah, he did that...like...once or twice..."
"I think the point Sunset's trying to make is that Goku's motivations for fighting almost never have anything to do with saving the world," Twilight said. "To him, saving the world comes after fighting a strong opponent."
"But...no!" Rainbow said. "I mean, he fought Nappa and Vegeta to save the world, and he went to Namek to rescue his friends and get the Dragon Balls, and—!"
"Cell," Sunset pointed out. "Buu. Beerus. Zamasu. How many times has Goku screwed things up just because he wanted a good fight?"
Rainbow fell silent.
"And when he's not in the middle of some fight, he complains about having to do chores. He doesn't really make time for his family," Sunset said. "Now, look at Vegeta. He started off as a big murdering jerk, but later on he settled down and became a devoted husband and father. He still fights and he still loves a challenge and he still trains and he's still Vegeta, but he cares more about keeping the people he loves safe than he cares about fighting strong opponents. Goku...doesn't."
Rainbow looked like she was about to cry. "But..." Her lip trembled. "But Goku's the ultimate good guy! He..." She faltered. "He..." She worried with her wristbands. "You gotta be wrong, you gotta be missin' somethin'..."
Sunset sighed, hating herself for it, but she played her final trump card. "I can prove Vegeta is more of a hero that Goku is with three words." She took a deep breath. "Fun Time Bingo."
Pinkie blinked. "Huh?"
Twilight fought a snicker. "S-sorry," she said. "That...that scene was so..."
Rainbow, on the other hand, hung her head in defeat. "Dammit, you win," she said. "You're right. Vegeta...he'll do anything for the people he cares about." She sniffled. "I guess...maybe Goku's just a fight nut...who just happens to save the world a lot..."
"Look, just because Goku isn't heroic, it doesn't mean he isn't a hero," Twilight said gently. "He is. It's just...he's a terrible person. I mean, where it counts. Anything that doesn't have to do with fighting, he just...can't be bothered with it."
Rainbow grimaced. "Yeah...I see your point." She visibly deflated. "Wow, that takes a lot of the fun out of it..."
"Aww, we're not trying to take the fun out of it, Rainbow," Sunset said soothingly. "Sorry if..." She bit her lip. "Wow, these fan debates never go anywhere good, do they?"
"They really, really don't," Pinkie Pie said. "Hey, who's up for some Teen Titans Go?"
And that's how Canterlot High was unmade...
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Princess? You mean Principal?
There's a touchy subject, and Sunset's the only one to really answer it. Would she prefer, a monthly menstrual cycle, or a yearly estrus cycle?
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I think I'll leave that one to sunset. Nothing good will come of trying to answer it for her.
Clearly biologically impossible children granted by the grace of Harmony are the same species as the mom, for convenience. They still mix the genes though. In the case of mixed species, through a hypothetical alternate self of a matching species.
Just because they're magical lovechildren doesn't mean there's no science involved!
Please, everyone knows Trunks is the TRUE hero of Dragon Ball. When you can have like, four versions of him, two from two alternate futures (which for some reason having differening hair colors, one being a light blue the other being more purple), in Xenoverse 2, you know he's awesome. Plus, at least in one future, he did kind of save what remains of humanity from 17, 18, and Cell by himself.
Love the Dragon Ball commentary there. And that final trump card of why Vegeta's a better person than Goku is both poignant and hilarious.
To be fair, Cell wouldn't even have been a problem if Vegeta had just killed him in his Semi-Perfect form. I fail to see how anything Buu did was Goku's fault since he was dead and only had unlimited amount of time to visit Earth. Beerus was gonna blow up the planet anyway, and Zanasu is just an asshole.
Also:
A few sentences earlier:
I know these are just someone snippets, and while I like this chapter, it felt like RD was simply ganged up on by most of her friends. The points where she made a good argument where so few and in between and anytime she brought up a good argument it was simply glossed over.
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The author happens to be a Teen Titans Go fan and doesn't particularly appreciate memes like this. Thank you, and have a good day.
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Derp. Will fix.
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Everything that happened with Buu was Goku AND Vegeta's fault, because they let their battle lust screw everything up. In Future Trunks' timeline, when Kaioushin arrived on Earth to prevent the release of Buu, the only warrior he had to rely on was Trunks. Trunks and Kaioushin were able to prevent Buu from even being released. They never even had to FIGHT Buu.
Because Trunks isn't as STUPID as Goku (and to a lesser extent, Vegeta--but the whole Buu thing is when Vegeta finally really settled down. He LEARNED FROM IT. Goku DIDN'T.)
Oh, and as for the last bit...I kinda tacked that on before posting because this snippet, as originally written, ended on a down note. ^^;; I fixed that bit to be a bit more coherent.
I’m not a fan of teen titans go but I will admit one thing
I started to listen to the night begins to shine because of that show
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Okay, I'll give you Buu, but to an extent. After all, let's not forget about the human extinction attack (THANKS A LOT PICCOLO), or the fact that Vegeta let himself get mind-controlled just to get a leg up on Kakarot, or the fact that the Supreme Kai didn't think to warn Goku and his friends long before the tournament or at the very least let them in on his plan to capture babidi before he got enough magic to release buu...
And as for separating fat Buu from Super Buu and bringing Kid Buu back? A smart monster is more dangerous than a dumb monster.
Going by Dragon Ball super, beerus was going to obliterate the planet anyway, at this point it would have been worse is Goku didn't fight, Resurrection f is a whole new can of worms, and as for Zamasu? Again, he's just an asshole who couldn't handle video of someone being stronger than him. If anything, he's a much worse version of Vegeta
seems pretty straightforward to me. when Twilight goes through the portal, her equine hooves become human hands, her equine muzzle becomes a human nose, so it stands to reason her equine egg cells become human egg cells. so if she goes through the portal and breeds with Flash, their offspring will be human. similarly, if Flash goes through the portal, his human sperm would turn into equine sperm, and if he and Twilight breed on the Equestria side of the portal, their offspring will be equine.
Right?
i think i've officially put too much thought into this
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Um. No. Beerus was awakened by the vision of a "Super Saiyan God". Which was the only reason he went to Earth.
WHO WAS THE SUPER SAIYAN GOD?! IT. WAS. GOKU.
Goku Black and Immortal Zamasu would NEVER have happened if Goku hadn't challenged Zamasu to a fight--which EVERYONE TOLD HIM NOT TO DO but he did it anyway. Goku beating Zamasu set off the chain of events that led to one Zamasu being erased, another becoming immortal, and a third stealing Goku's body--and all of it culminating in the erasure of Future Universe 7.
ALL OF THAT is on Goku. If Goku had never challenged Zamasu to a fight, then yes, Zamasu would still have murdered Gowasu and probably would have waged war on the mortals in his own Universe, but that would have been a contained incident. And his universe's Hakaishin would've killed him, or Zen-oh would've erased that universe. Goku Black and Fused Zamasu would NOT have happened.
I was gonna ask if Neighpon was established in the Equestria Girls universe since the last special or short or movie I watched. Then I remembered it's not established in the show either and its just a very often used name in fanfics. Don't you love it when fandom is so predominant it messes with what you know in your head is the canon?
Anyways, I will watch the Teen Titans Go! movie and will enjoy it, and while at this point I think it's too late for them to do big references to it, I hope they can throw some line referencing how edgy the upcoming Titans show is. People complained about Go! and said they wanted more serious heroes, and they got them, now lay on them.
See this is why I prefer Superman to Goku....
He's a better man.
Superman is actually a good dad to his kid.
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Yeah but, is it really fair to blame Goku just because someone dreamed about him? Kinda stretching the blame meeter there...
And as for Zamasu? Yeah, sorry to burst your bubble there, but even the manga confirms that the Zamasu would have gone through with his actions, complete with stealing Goku's body:
In the manga Zamasu first hears of Goku after his sparring match when Shin tells him it was Goku who defeated Majin Buu. Then he saw Goku using his God form against Hit in the U6 vd U7 tournament on GodTube and immediately got pissy because a "mortal" somehow attained that power through sheer hard work.
That's right, he went through with this "zero mortals" plan in the manga even though he had never directly met or fought Goku!
It's like freiza getting pissed about the Saiyans getting stronger... but on a much pettier scale.
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Can you remind me what Goku did wrong against Cell? I wouldn't blame Cell's entire creation on Goku, you can only really blame Gero for that. He couldn't fight Cell for most of the saga because he was sick and when he got better he knew Cell was stronger than him, so he needed to train. By the time he was done Cell was in his Perfect form and was still stronger than him, which is actually Vegeta's fault. He fought him as hard as he could but he realized he couldn't win and gave up.
Then he had Gohan fight Cell because he knew Gohan had the power to beat him. This moment seems to get most people upset due to Goku being a "horrible dad" to Gohan. He gave Cell a senzu so it would be a "fair fight" and more easily force Gohan to awaken his power, but once Piccolo began calling him out on this he tried to jump back in to fight Cell again and was only stopped by Cell himself now wanting to fight Gohan. If anything Gohan caused more problems because he didn't kill Cell when he had the chance, even as Goku was shouting at him to do it. This can probably be explained by the Saiyans slowly losing themselves to their urge to fight as they increase each Super Saiyan level.
So with all that in mind, what exactly was it that Goku did to make thing worse with Cell? Thank you in advance, things discussions are fun.
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Eh, personally I can't stand the show, but to each their own.
Something I've noticed about Vegeta is that he has technically never won a fight. Whenever he fights someone, he is either so much more powerful than them that he wins without any effort, or he fights someone strong enough that he actually has to try against and loses.
Arlians- No effort
Goku - Lost
Cui - No effort
Dodoria - No effort
Zarbon - Lost
Zarbon rematch - No effort
Guldo - No effort
Reicoome - Lost
Jeice - No effort
Frieza - Lost
Android 19 - No effort
Android 18 - Lost
Semi Perfect Cell - No effort
Perfect Cell - Lost
Pui Pui - No effort
Goku - Lost
Majin Buu - Lost
Beerus - Lost
Frieza - Lost
Frost - No effort
Magetta - Won by ring out
Cabba - No effort
Hit - Lost
Goku Black - Lost
He also spends just as much time training as Goku, trying to get stronger. Unlike Goku, he hasn't worked a day in his life since coming to Earth since he married into the richest family on the planet.
As for Goku, anyone who has watched Super knows that Goku never wins a fight. Beerus, Frieza, Black and Zamasu he all lost to, he only beat Botamo by ring out, he lost to Frost because he cheated, and he forfeited the match to Hit because he ran out of time for his Kaioken. He only beat Copy Vegeta because Monika destroyed the source, and while he did beat Hit later, it was a filler episode and may not even be canon.
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You missed my point. You said "Beerus would've destroyed the Earth anyway" as if that was a foregone conclusion. It wasn't. He only went to Earth to find the Super Saiyan God, which is Goku. No Goku, no vision, no Beerus visit to Earth, no danger. As for the stuff about Zamasu....eh. The Super manga and the Super anime have a shitload of disparity, but the anime canon ALWAYS takes precedence for Super. I know, that seems wrong, but Super is the one case where it's anime over manga, always.
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You just answered your own question.
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..."Winning with no effort" is still winning. So...yeah...thanks for trying, g'bye...
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Going to be honest. I personally don't care for Teen Titans Go. Now, I can understand why others like it, even if it doesn't appeal to me. That said, it has made me laugh a few times. The Halloween episode with the Thundercats joke had me rolling, the skit where "Night Begins to Shine" plays was actually damn impressive, and the clips for the Batman movies jokes in the TTG Movie trailers have me considering going to see it when it comes out.
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This ad for the movie had me laughing like an asshole:
I won't lie though, the Ultra Instinct was awesome but I preferred the unmastered Instinct look... and Vegeta's Blue Evolution seemed more deserving.
Then again I also like some GT concepts and designs despite the fact GT was not great. Good ideas, poor execution. SSJ4 is still better designwise than the palette swap that Blue is. Hell, if Toriyama designs were used, UI would be even lazier.
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Now, while I'm still hyped over Golden Cooler in DBH and having SSJ4 Xeno Goku be equal to Blue post ToP Goku... I think we're all thinking about one thing that I'd love if you wrote about.
BROLY AND HIS RECENT TRAILER AAAA
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Even so, it still feels like too big of a stretch to directly blame Goku for it. It's essentially blaming Goku for existing.
I sort of get that part, the manga can easily be counted as its own separate continuity at this point. But the matter still stands when addressing the "what-if" scenario you brought up: would have gone through with his plans even if he didn't directly meet Goku.
It really says a lot when an official media-even one that deals with an alternate continuity-shows that a villian would still go through if his plans even if he didn't meet the protagonist.
"... So if you had a kid with Flash—"
"Drop it, Rainbow."
Vegeta is heroic in the modern sense. Goku is heroic in the classical sense, a being somewhere between god and mortal (to begin with, anyway) who is capable of incredible feats and has hubris to match. Of course, the problem is that he never really suffers for that hubris. Everyone around him does.
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And if that offspring goes through the portal, (s)he switches to the other one. Theoretically, (s)he could be the Melody to Sunset's Ariel.
So really, except for experiences accrued, birth species may not matter.
Just no doing it on the threshold of the portal. Who knows what would result. (And that's how centaurs were made!)
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Again, you're missing my point. You seemed to have been under the impression that without Goku there to fight Beerus, Beerus would have destroyed Earth for no reason whatsoever. I was pointing out that that wouldn't have happened because Beerus only went to Earth in the first place because of Goku. If you're not getting my point by now, you never will.
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I get the point, it's just the implication that rubs me the wrong way.
Actually. Several of the things blamed on Goku that threatened the world could technically be blamed on Trunks because Goku is only alive because of him. The timeline Trunks is from is the TRUE Timeline. It is him fucking around in the past that pretty much caused these all to happen. Beerus didn't even exist in the future timeline anymore to come looking for the Super Saiyan God because Supreme Kai was dead.
Also, there are reasons why Goku is so shit at being a family man. He is from the lower caste of Saiyan's while Vegeta is from the Royal Family. They are two completely different beasts in that regard. The caste of Saiyan's Goku is from don't do families, they do breeding. And while Goku's parents were the exception and not the rule for this, Goku obviously didn't inherit it from them. When you top this off with Goku being dropped on the head as a baby he is quite messed up.
ANd with Vegeta and they Royal Family they actually are hardwired for the whole family thing, raising children and all that. Goku and Vegeta are essentially Biologically and mentally hardwired to work differently despite both being Saiyans.
And then there is Chi Chi, the most unreasonable bitch every. Goku gets a shit ton of money from Mr. Satan and gives it to her? She pretends it is all gone so she can force him to work. She wants him to be a family man? She constantly forbids the one activity him and one of his sons can actually bond over: Training, as that actually interests Goten. She says there are no threats thus Goku doesn't need to be any stronger? There will likely always be a new threat and not all of them will be Goku's fault.
And you know what? Goku's fight happy nature did EVERYONE a Favor. Tournament of Power. Zen-Oh was planning on destroying 8 of the 12 Universes anyway. Goku made it possible for not only one of them to remain, but all of them. As if I remember right in the Manga, they were days, if not hours away from just destroying them.
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Well said.
I find myself asking if I should give my opinion on Goku being a terrible person/everything is his fault. I'm wondering if at this point you're tired of it by now.
It really bothers me how DBS basically canonized "Goku's a bad father/husband", he doesn't even know what a kiss is.
To be fair I only dislike Teen Titans Go because it's a complete mockery of the original show, made worse by the fact that they have the original voice cast reading these stupid scripts. That said when the writing staff actually put some effort into the script the show is capable of being good. The movie actually looks like fun, I probably won't see it in the theatres but I definitely intend to watch it.
Also, the Tournament of Power was Goku's fault but even in the anime, they say that the original plan was to just erase the universes without giving everyone a chance to survive so it turned out to be a good thing in the long run.
With Pinkie doing that thing with the letters I am surprised that nobody thought to get some altitude to see just what she was spelling out.
As for the whole Goku thing, there is a whole reason much of the fandom sees Piccolo as Gohan’s father and why he is a decent father figure. At least until Vegeta stepped up.
Ian Corlett's talent was totally wasted on that garbage.
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Someone's never actually read the Dragonball manga...
(The anime--and consequently, the official English adaptation of the manga--severely played up Goku's "virtuous" aspects and downplayed how much of a short-sighted, fight-happy Blood Knight he is. Toriyama himself has said, in interviews, that he was never happy with the way the DBZ anime played Goku up as an Ultimate Hero, and that Dragonball Super's portrayal of Goku is MUCH more in line with his true nature.)
"This world... is certainly full of things."
Next morning...
"Um, Sunset Shimmer?"
"..."
"Sunset!"
"Huh? What?"
"I... hate to interrupt, uh, whatever is happening in your brain right now... or maybe I'm not? Maybe I should interrupt?"
"What is it, Twilight?"
"You've kinda been... staring at all of us in the groin all day."
"It's getting a tad disturbing, darling."
"Haven't you noticed Fluttershy squirming every time you look at hers?"
"Eep!"
"Yeah, like that, exactly like that."
"S-sorry, sorry! It's just, even after all these years, I'm still learning about human customs and fashion."
"...darling, if you're so curious about, ahem, waxing, you only need to ask. Staring and wondering if we've... ahem, is rude."
"Ugh, sorry. But no, I know all about waxing--"
"I taught her all about it!"
"Yes, thank you, Pinkie Pie, that's something I'll never forget no matter how hard I drink. No, I meant this thing called 'vajazzling'."
"..."
"..."
".............."
*squeak*
"I'm not judging! Seriously, I'm not! Ponies do all sorts of body fashion, what with the whole 'clothes-optional' thing. I just... well, doesn't it itch?"
"Hardly... hardly anyone does that, Sunset."
"Really? Huh. So none of you--"
"No!"
"Absolutely not!"
"Ew!"
"Oh, my, I don't even wear earrings!"
"Hell no!"
"Hahaha.. ha...."
"Did that satisfy your curiosity, Sunset?"
"I guess... but..."
"Darling, I just noticed... where is your geode?"
"Er, hahaha... funny you should ask..."
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Wow. That is exactly the kind of entitled, opinion-projecting, jerkass garbage the fans, the actors, and the crew HATE. Do you not understand that the voice cast themselves LOVE the show, enjoy working on it, and to them, it's not just a job, but a labor of love? Or are you THAT wrapped up in your own perceptions of What Teen Titans Is Supposed To Be! that there's no room in your world for the notion that maybe the people making it are ENJOYING making it?
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The funny thing is Yamcha is one of the few characters who beat Goku.
... even though he ran away shortly afterwards... and Goku was weak and hungry...
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WOW! Read the rest of my post why don't you. I'm allowed to dislike it for being dumb, immature and attacking those who criticise it. They did an entire episode whose lesson was "cartoons are supposed to be dumb because they are for kids and adults shouldn't be watching them". The show makes it really hard to like it but I acknowledge that when at its best it can be a good show that captures part of what made the original Teen Titans so good.
You are a treasure.
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Fair enough. I'm very, very tired of people whose attitude toward TTG is "it's not the 2003 cartoon & it sucks & it's trash" and all that. Your comment read like it was more of the same (and part of it honestly kind of was)...it sort of overshadowed the rest of what you said, at least to me. My bad.
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Yeah no problem I get it, I may resent it a bit for not being more like the original but I wouldn't be so hard on it if most episodes were more like 40%, 40%, 20% and less like The Return of Slade. The movie does look funny though, the Batman joke from one of the trailers was hilarious.
9057973 Ian, like the rest of the Ocean talent, got bowlderized language and outright ridiculous censorship. But he apparently left not because of that but because of a pay dispute involving Goku's screams. At least, that's what I believe he stated.
Pretty much sums up my chapters in tracking on fimfiction
This reminds me of a bad joke:
How many Z-fighters does it take to change a lightbulb?
Only one, but it takes an entire season, three power ups, and a wish on the Dragonballs to do so.
As for TTG, I tried watching this when it first came out, but it was just so f-ing dumb. It’s like they took everything good about the original, put it in a blender, put it on purée, and then strained the good things out to put the crap that is on now.
I’m not saying it’s all bad. The two episodes about The Night Begins To Shine were the best episodes that they ever had. If they would do more episodes like that, it would be great. But, for now, no thank you.
This is all too real for me and my folks. We were using Spectrum, but got tired of it and just switched to AT&T. On the plus side, it was cheaper to get DirectTV with the internet service, so there's that. If you live in North Texas, don't get Spectrum. Just...just don't. 't ain't worth it.
Sunny, please don't break the Fourth Wall. That's my job.
This was a good chapter. XP
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Out of idle curiosity, not flame seeking: have you seen the OG Teen Titans show, and what draws you to TTG?
I've seen both. I was so bummed that OTT didn't get to properly end, but it was a fun ride. I can understand why the people who grew up with it are angry.
From what I've seen of the actual TTG episodes....eh? I mean, it's fine, I guess. I got a few chuckles, but it's not something I'll actively seek out. I think the major turn off for most older fans of OTT is the marketing on the newer show. It's very r/fellowkids in nature.
Also, what's the draw of Dragon Ball anymore? Just superfight porn? Like Naruto, I'm surprised it's still relevant. I'm of the opinion that there's far better anime on to watch these days. If y'all like it, more power to ya. Just ain't my thing. (though I got burned by Naruto and hate that story with a passion)
TTG! isn't bad on it's own. It just fails to live up to the Paul Dini-esque perfect balance of comedy and gritty noir that the original show and most of the DCAU are known for. (Yes, I know Dini and his people didn't directly work on Teen Titans).
Go! is unbalanced in favor of screwball and surrealist comedy.
(To be clear, I love Go!)
Wow, that's the most beautiful scene I've ever read on this site.
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...do you actually even read my stories here?
1. Yes, of course I've seen Teen Titans 2003. From the day it premiered to the day it ended, I saw every episode first-run. I was a huge fan. I even made a Teen Titans AMV once (that has sadly been lost to the mists of time).
2. Teen Titans Go is the equivalent of a gag manga. It's basically an entire series made up of Teen Titans omake, full of the kind of humor I go for (most of the time)--self-referential callbacks, winknudge jokes, innuendo, silly songs, and toilet humor. The cast are clearly enjoying the HELL out of themselves, which makes it even more fun to watch--it's like sharing a joke with the cast that you fell in love with the first time around. Sure, some episodes aren't great. Sometimes there's too many butt jokes. Sometimes they go too far with the "reacting to the hatedom" shitpost episodes.
3. People hate on it because (a) it's not the Superhero Action Show they want, and (b) they don't understand/don't want to understand that it's MEANT to be a silly joke show, and (c) they're butthurt that it isn't season 6 of the original show, while ignoring the fact that season 5 of the original show SUCKED and it had long since jumped the shark. Go may not be the same show, but it's not supposed to be. It's supposed to be random, stupid nonsense and it excels at that GLORIOUSLY, and since my whole THING is random, stupid nonsense, it's right up my alley.
I completely disagree with all of this. I didn't "grow up with" Teen Titans, because I was already in my late 20s when it came around. I've been following TTG off and on since it premiered. I'm 40 now. Using age and childhood nostalgia to justify the absurd hatedom TTG has is absolute bullshit. And please understand that when I say "hatedom", I don't mean people who simply aren't interested in it and don't devote any energy to pursuing a discourse of hatred toward it. I mean the butthurt, entitled fuckwads who spend countless hours NERDRAGING against it online, when they could simply move on with their lives and find something constructive to do (or a better show to watch).
Let me give you an example: I loathe Spongebob Squarepants. I don't waste hours--or even minutes--of my life bitching online about how much I hate it. I just ignore it, and occasionally downvote comments on my blog/fics with a Spongebob video clip embedded.
You're absolutely right. Nothing should ever be around for literal generations, ever, just because it's popular. I mean, who needs Doctor Who anymore, right? It's been around for over 50 years, surely there aren't any more stories to tell, why not let it die? And what about Star Trek? Why keep doing anything new with it? Junk all the starships and forget about it! Star Wars? It's over. It's done.
(Do you see what I'm getting at here?)
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Because it isn't SUPPOSED TO BE that. It's a gag show. I honestly think people who hate on it needlessly just don't want to accept that a joke show featuring superheroes is a thing that can be done, and don't want to give it a fair shake for WHAT IT IS as opposed to WHAT IT ISN'T.