• Published 21st Aug 2015
  • 13,424 Views, 310 Comments

Everypony Lives - Chinchillax



It’s been eight hundred years since Princess Twilight made death illegal. And now life is perfect. Perfect for everypony but Care Free.

  • ...
61
 310
 13,424

The stallion lay slumped in slumber at the foot of Princess Twilight.

“Thoughts?” she asked.

The dragon leaned his long neck over to the stallion, setting his head down right next to the pony’s body and watching him breathe. “I know this isn’t what you want to hear, Twilight, but in his case… I think it would be okay if we let him go. It looks like he’s been in a lot of pain for a long time.”

"I'd have to agree with Spike," added Discord. "Not everypony is meant to live forever."

“No,” said Twilight. “I promised that I would never allow death to touch any of my little ponies ever again.”

“Can’t we make an exception for him, though?” asked Spike. “Just this once?”

“And what about the hundreds more just like him?” said Twilight. “Do you want to let them die too?”

“A few hundreds out of billions. We compromise and help them on whatever other wish they would like, why not this one?”

“No, Spike. I will not reintroduce that plague to Equestria. Ponies grieved too much over death and loved ones before the transition. And besides, I know if he managed to make some friends he would be fine.”

“You don’t know that,” said Discord.

She blinked, her eyes darting to him.

“You may be fine with exploring the upper limits of immortality, Twilight. Perhaps most of Equestria is as well. But there’s a limit as their lifetimes approach infinity. And some may reach that limit sooner than others.”

“You’re wrong, Discord. Whether they are sixty or six hundred, when ponies are struggling we help them! We don’t stand idly by being depressed about a problem that can be fixed. We fix the problem and continue!”

The draconequus frowned.

The tower stayed silent for several long moments. The only sounds different from the usual crystal echoes were the deep breaths coming from the unconscious stallion.

Twilight sighed, staring down at the pony. “Discord, do you think he might like that second Equestria you’re terraforming?”

Discord continued to frown. “Not the way he is now.”

Twilight sighed, bringing up her hoof and massaging her muzzle.

“Isn’t there some kind of compromise we can make for him?” asked Spike.

“A compromise between life and death? Of course not, there is nothing in between.”

“There can be,” said Discord.

A yellow crystal flashed into Discord’s paw as he pulled the sleeping stallion into the air with his magic. In a haze of blue light the stallion slowly got younger… and younger, his cutie mark vanishing. Discord siphoned off every scrap of memory the stallion had into the crystal, leaving nothing behind. By the time he was done, a sleeping baby foal was all that remained.

“The compromise between death and life: reincarnation.”

Author's Note:

.

Comments ( 268 )

I'm of the opinion that if people are absolutely sure that they want to die, let them die. But this has no real world application- in reality, people who commit suicide are making impulse decisions or are suffering from a mental illness and can't make the decision for themselves, and even if neither of those are true, then the risk is still to great that they are to let someone commit suicide.

As for this stallion, I'm of the opinion he should give live's experiences another try before being so adamant that suicide is the only option.

As for Discord's option, it's probably the best, because he pretty much killed the stallion, however he replaced said stallion with another lifeform with an exactly equal entitlement to life who will end up being much happier.

Great story! I'm trying to upvote this but it won't let me... :rainbowhuh:

6341575
That's because of a new site feature. Any story with less than ten votes, up or down, will have its votes hidden from the public.

This is a really interesting concept for a story! Death has always been like a shadow to life, ever-present and frightful as it grows longer over time. While personally I'd love to live forever and never have to worry about what happened to me, I can also see why some people would grow tired of living, especially if everything in a world was 'perfect'.

The one downside I saw is that the story isn't very detailed or (dare I say it?) deep. The plot itself is interesting, but the lead-up to such a point in one's life, the background behind a society of immortals, what circumstances constitute 'life' and 'death', how ponies can/do lead their everlasting lives, the changes following Discord's solution, and so on are all a little too vague to be engaging. If the story were a bit longer, those kinds of questions would definitely be good topics to touch on.

This is a great little story, altogether. Love the Japanese titles too, nice touch. :trollestia:

Saw story, was interested, clicked. Read story, continued to be interested. The premise is--for lack of a better word...--interesting, and even if it's one you found you still did a good job putting it all together. There's no glaring errors, and the writing doesn't make me want to beat my head against the wall, so, success!
But I'm also confused. It feels like a small piece of something much larger, but I can't make out what that larger something is meant to be, and I can't tell if it ended too soon or started too late. Are you exploring a tyranny of benevolence? The nature of death? Of reincarnation? And what of the stallion? It's hard to emphasize with him when we know so little of his life, and with this ending where it does, Discord's solution--a continuation of sorts--still feels like an ending. But, then, maybe that's the point...
Of course, it's also possible I'm over-thinking things...
Regardless, I enjoyed this. Have a like!

6341591
OMG YES, I didn't know that became a feature or when, but I'm glad it's there!

6341671
It was made a feature on 24 July of this year.

Actually if Discord has the heart that I think he has after all of what has happened -- that foal is NOT the petitioner.

It would be EASY for Discord to disguise a reincarnation event.

---

If it is the same pony then the same event may happen and we come back to square one a couple of hundred years down the line.

6341575 6341671
Now the votes are revealed!

>10 upvotes
>1 downvote

And then there's this asshole.

Well then, I expected a...happier ending, or at least Twilight coming around. The ending feels like cheating the petitioner, and as stated this all feels cut from something much larger :/

Don't get me wrong, I enjoyed the read, but still...my heart is hollow now.

Very interesting. If someone wanted to get cancer would we call them mentally ill? In a world where mortality is, in principle, optional the right to choose to die seems essential but exercising that right may be a symptom of an ill mind. I think this may be the kind of problem I would want to have.

Very interesting to say the least. I can see this story staring a complex debate in the comments. Although I think it would have been more interesting if Celestia, Luna and Cadendza were there.

Would have liked to see Twilight's reaction to Discord suddenly pulling that reincarnation bit. But yeah, this was pretty good look at something only our little Twilight could magic up. Especially when paired with Discord's magic.

I wish it would have gone on to eventually reveal why Twilight became so desperate to try and find a 'cure' for death. A nice "I did it, Rarity! I did it! I finally found the—" only to trot in to see Rarity 'sleeping' on her couch. The last of her friends finally passing away. No Luna, no Celestia. And now not even one of her old friends remained beyond Spike and Discord.

You know, something like that. I guess.

It was a nice little dystopian twoshot, but I could help but feel the protagonist was somewhat weak. He didn't have much of a personality other than "I'm sad and I want to kill myself." It's kind of hard to feel for him or the situation that Equestria's in as a result.

Nice story, but a bit hollow overall. It would have been nicer to explore Twilight's intentions behind the whole immortality thing - I get that she's changed but it didn't feel like Twilight. She was just a little bit too cold and organize-y.

Loved the story, but not gonna lie it brought back some of my more personal problems .~.
Still loved that you wrote this :) You're showing the downfall to a paradise that a lot of people want.

I don't think people are afraid of death...they're afraid of what comes after.

Namely, if anything at all comes after. Or if it's nothing but a dreamless sleep, with naught but nothingness waiting beyond the veil of life.

Long have we pondered the existence of gods, of all names and origins, and the possibility of an eternal paradise (or damnation) after we pass from this world. Long have we pondered on a realm beyond our own, although, after so many millennia of civilization, we have yet to show irrefutable proof truly exists. Long have we pondered whether or not there will by anything at all waiting for us after our mortal hearts play their final tunes.

I did always like the Hindu concept of reincarnation, both in philosophy and in context. The promise of a fresh start, in a new body, trying your hand at the game of life once more.

I wouldn't call myself religious, but I don't like the idea of nothing but blackness at the end of the road. And I also don't like the idea of leaving this world behind forever. Death just seems so...final, but life, on the other hand...

Life is full of potential.

Not a bad story, and I do get where it was going.

I just have a hard time feeling for the protagonist.

He comes off as an emo little kid who just wants to have his way. I was kind of hoping for a more intelligent argument from his side of things, but he just came off as pathetic since his arguments were basically "but I don't wanna live anymore, and you can't make me...so there,".

A good idea though.

6341574

This says a lot about what needs to be said.

6342855

I just have a hard time feeling for the protagonist.

He comes off as an emo little kid who just wants to have his way.

This says more, the protagonist makes no convincing arguments for why he should want to die, he just does and we are told he does.

6342695
Agreed. This doesn't read like the logical extension of anything - it's definitely not "show Twilight". Feels more like every other AU grimdark Tyrant Twilight. Maybe it's actually Starlight Glimmer masquerading as Twilight, enforcing Harmony at horn-point! This might have worked better as part of a longer work, where we'd get some background on why Twilight ended up like this, what happened to the other alicorns, and why this pony wanted to die.

I always thought the Time Lords of Gallifrey (or should that be Gallop-Frey) had the right idea. A singular mind or consciousness can only take so much life. You need to be 'refreshed' on occasion if you intend to live for Millennia, so that life doesn't become stale.

But even that would eventually start running up against the limits I think. That episode in the school with the Tenth Doctor, where he tells the alien that he's become tired of giving the benefit of the doubt (or something like that) makes me feel just how mentally old he is, even with a young face.

So yeah, you might be able to make your body immortal, but the mind is another matter, & if you change the mind, are you still you?

6342849
Why are humans afraid of death and why we believe that is normal? I'm not talking about the moment you almost die and when your survival instinct kicks in. That is normal and natural and I don't even know if you can call that fear.

I am talking about that fear of death that is produced by the thought. For centuries we created ideas about what could be after death. None of them were proven and I'm not saying that they are wrong or right.

Isn't death... life? You can't have one without the other. So aren't they are the same thing.

If we were to understand life, why would we be afraid of death? Man started measuring time. He created the concept of time. And the funny thing of that is that he suffers because of that concept he created,

I don't find that normal at all.

I found this story to be delightful. Well done.

Damn, I was all ready to post a big speech about how if he's just so damn tired of being alive and immortal, and no matter what he can't die, then the best thing to do would be to wipe his mind, reset it, let him start over. And then it happens right at the end. Honestly, I kinda gotta agree with Twilight here. It's bad that she's forcing it on her subjects, but she's right about pretty much everything else. And they reached a great solution at the end there.

So those who grow too tired of life will have their minds wiped and be allowed to start all over. No idea why this has the tragedy tag. He got what he wanted in a way, Twilight got what she wanted in a way, and Discord just brought a great solution hundreds would take because it's equivalent to what they want.


6341696
That's assuming he'll become the same person again, which is very unlikely. He may become someone who can handle being immortal much better, or me may become someone who cracks much earlier.

6341574
There are many people who are terminally ill and face nothing but another year or two of great pain if they keep on living. Suicide can be a completely rational choice for them.

Except that reincarnation isn't a compromise between death and life. If you can't remember your former life then prior you is functionally dead, and if you can then all you did was physical mutation.

6343453 I didn't even consider that, but I agree with you completely.

Not everyone has the mental fortitude to handle life eternal. Honestly, even if you're happy to be immortal, there's still the issue of getting bored.

This was awsome and dark. LIKED, FAVED, AND IM FOLLOWING YOU .Good job mate.

~T.CC

Very interesting, Chill. Good to see something new from you.

Great job with the story, I really liked it. Also, what do the titles mean? I would use google translate but I still don't trust it.

Pause #35 · Aug 21st, 2015 · · 3 ·

Big issue with immortality is stagnation.

6343500 It's just what he wants Twilight to think...

i cannot condone this. while they may have done everything to make everyone immortal. there has to be a limit. food and resources. entertainment. and then theirs the bad side, killers,greedy people. ect. and then theirs just living so long that you just get tired living. even if you make another planet whats to stop you there? what if they continue that over and over again and suddenly they are faced with oh shit theirs aliens and we are invading their territory? even then if theirs nothing whats to stop them from coming into more than one universe? and then they meet a celestia who's disgusted by what twilight has done? death is a natural thing that cannot be interrupted. if it is something horrible might happen. if there is a heaven or hell in this universe you'd bet your ass they would step in to stop twilight. and theirs that thing at the end! wipe their memories and have them live again? i can guarantee that would not work ether, they might just follow in the same footsteps or might come out worse than what the were? not to mention to whole no longer being able to have different babies anymore. no more evolution. no more leaps in technology or art or medicine. death is something that should never be taken away no matter how much it hurts. its just a natural thing. if you make everyone immortal sooner or later those hundreds that dont want to live anymore will start to grow more and more. and you cant really make them babies since you know a few more would be like "WAit! that was my friend why did you do that!?" and yeah doing what Twilight did, that is basically killing him.

My god this is dark. I want to share my opinion on this, but I'll be back later. Too sleepy right now.

This Discord doesn´t sounds like Discord... at all. You should have replaced him for another OC speaking his lines . :ajbemused:

6343500
Agreed. See "Death of Personality" from Babylon 5 episode "Passing Through Gethsemane".

Death needs to get his bony ass up and smack a bitch. Like, just straight up strut down that crystal bridge up to Twilight and backhand her.

6344168 I'm not usually one for slapping a pony, but I guess I'll make an exception.

6344177 I agree with the whole "usually not my thing" bit, but just..... Damn it Twilight. Life simply can't be a thing without Death there too. It's a metaphysical impossibility.

Alrighty then, Twilight.

6342855 well as the story makes clear they've been through this before. How many times can you rehash the same argument?

6343798
- Nothingness

- Continuation

6344168 I don't think he can he lost the limbo contest

Great story. It leaves you with more questions than answers, such as the upper limits of food production, the social and economic stasis that would come from the lack of circulation at the top... When the population can no longer be supported by the food available and nopony dies, does that mean that ponies starve eternally, or does Twilight have some spell to make enough food to feed billions of mouths every day? Or has technology advanced to the point where intensive farming is possible? Is that why Discord is "terra" forming (equuiforming?) a new Equestria? Are we out of room? Will Twilight rescind the ban on procreation for colonists?

Are ponies going to be rotated out of their jobs so that those younger than them can advance in their careers? What of their special talents? Unlike humans, ponies can't really change careers. Did Twilight figure out a way to change a cutie mark? Is that one of the wishes she can grant?

How does she minister to the personal wishes of billions? Is there some sort of wish-granting bureaucracy? Do you have to fill out Wish Request form TS-121 in triplicate and submit it at your local office of the Royal Wishing Service? Do you have a Wishing License? Sorry, you need to fill out form TS-77 first and bring it down to the Wishing License Review office? Why are there so many bureaucrats? There has to be some way of providing employment for those billions... There are so many ways that this can be a dystopia, despite Twilight's best intentions.

Very well written and thoroughly enjoyable.

Reincarnation?

Chicago Ted declares this story to be appropriate for the outbreak of the Green Flu!

Welp, just finished reading this fic. It's not like I needed sleep or anything! :pinkiecrazy:

All joking aside, this is a good fic. You have my upvote.

I'd imagine that someone could have a child, and hide it before twilight gets to it, and maybe enough ponies do this until there are enough ponies to live normally in a cave or something, with normal life spans

Login or register to comment