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Huh. Conceived with the magic of Celestia, Silver and possibly Luna, depending on if he got pulled out before or after Luna started donating her magic.
On whom would it reflect poorly? On themselves? On the pharaoh? That needs to be inserted into that sentence.
The "still-seated" Celestia.
"Nonetheless" is a compound word.
"Hind legs" are not a compound word.
Capitalize the first letter of the first word in the sentence.
Her "willingly-given" essence.
A "choked" gasp.
I think you can change that to "moderate success."
She either needs to say what that was the last of, or just make it "That was almost your end."
The "slowly-recovering" Silver.
They fetched his "bauble."
6081663 The typos have been sent to be scrubbed and perfumed in time for court.
6081688 Sadly with my bad allergies I shan't be able to be nearby as perfumes and the like leave me lacking in general well-being.
6081688 One more that I overlooked:
"Halfway" is a compound word, also.
6081714 Damn typos! They win again!
6081717 Typo executed as an example to others.
Doesn't matter had sex. Loooooool
Celestia can kill in bed but Silver lives
that was so close to Silver losing his life, if Luna did not find him that was the end.
but she did and she saved the day.
but now it will be a year before she gets to try for the next royal foal, or will it some how I don't think Silver is going to be willing to weight that long.
this chapter was a surprise I hade guessed the royal mating would be several chapters out yet.
and to that point Celestia did not confirm if she is pregnant or not, before every one screams at me quote, Celestia held him, hugging. "Stay here for now. You've done an amazing thing." that is 90% yes Celestia is with foal.
but remember in the earlier story Luna was supposable with foal also and the magic was just not strong enough to quicken her so Luna used the magic to help turn Silver to a lunar unicorn.
ok I will put my through on the chopping block.
it is a filly and Luna is not going to be weighting around long her next estrous after they get back she will lay with Silver.
Harts Fire
6081906 it is not Celestia it is any alicorn the massive amount of magic required to quicken or conceive a foal is just huge. a normal mare is no big deal for Silver as his magic reserve as a alicorn is massive.
the problem is the 4 alicorn mars require a huge magic surge to get them pregnant.
remember with Twilight she is vary young as a alicorn and Silver was holding there chilled in magic form in his body and was still infused with a massive magic surge from just being turned back in to a stallion. so nether words he was super charged at the point in time.
Harts Fire
Seriously, this Celestia, which I can almost call Momlestia is so much nicer and sweeter and with her slight mare-over-stallion note, which I can tolerate and even love a bit. It's hitting lots of my buttons just right.
6081934 That or Luna will kill them both when they gets back, after all he did promise Luna twice that he wouldnt and she still doesnt know the truth about what happened with the sisters.
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And yet you pushed him into it... GAH is she trying to sound sympathetic for his sake or was she expecting a different outcome than them mating?
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that is just Celestia being her self remember she is 6000+ years old and after that long just is kind of stuck in the old ways, and a bit naïve in the way of lovers after all any stallion she has ever hade as a lover has died from trying to quicken her.
and I am getting that age from a story I am reading now.
just look up the longest story on this site.
6081736 So Silver, apparently flush with self-confidence after his conquest of the Windsong girls, decides to throw caution to the wind and attempts to breed Celestia. I have to admit, that was very brave of him, if not necessarily very smart. Confidence is good, but letting it do your thinking for you - regardless of what the stories lionize - tends to work out badly more often than not.
For one thing, I've been suspicious about Silver's plan to siphon magic off of Celestia prior to trying to get her to conceive. The reason? She needs that same magic within her in order to sustain and nurture an unborn alicorn. Silver is treating that magic like it's a barrier, something that needs to be overcome in order to put a foal in Celestia - in my view, that magic is the very potential for Celestia to be receptive at all. Reducing it doesn't make it easier to impregnate her; it just makes her less fertile.
To put it another way, Silver needs to bring more to bear, rather than trying to make Celestia have less. That's been the problem from day one, and I'm dubious that Silver can circumvent it so simply. (Though I believe this is the first instance of him draining magic with his fangs, so that's something, I suppose.)
More notable is that this left the question of whether or not Silver actually knocked her up completely open. I doubt that even Celestia would know, since this would be a first for her. But hey, at least he gave her the best sex of her life, so that's something, right? Plus, she appears to have gained some respect/affection for him - though I suspect that this is due to a mixture of great sex and his being willing to put it all on the line to please/quicken her.
Personally, I'm dubious that Silver accomplished his goal, here. Even if we leave aside possible unintended consequences from draining Celestia's magic, there's also the fact that he simply didn't have enough magic on his own; he passed out, and was implied to have come close to death, despite his own (nascent) alicorn status. If Luna hadn't helped him out, who knows what could have happened?
I'm also not convinced that Luna necessarily helped with anything, despite Celestia's appreciation for the "poetry" in her sister indirectly helping to knock her up. It honestly seemed (to me) like Luna was donating her magic to Silver in the immediate aftermath of his releasing into Celestia, meaning that he had already made the attempt and found himself not up to it. Also, how in the heck did she transfer magic to him across a dream? I was under the impression that that allowed for communication and little else - being able to directly donate power across it seems like a major expansion of that, particularly in a situation where any sort of connection between them is supposed to be stretched thin due to the intervening physical distance. If physical distance can make simply communication that much more difficult, moving energy across it should be that much harder - at the very least, the energy lost in the transfer should be significant, due to entropy.
To put all of this another way, I think that Silver more than likely failed, here. He tried hard (tee hee), and gave her his all (get it?), but at the end of the day (that's kind of a pun, too), he just didn't have it in him (last one, I swear).
Of course, that's something that I can see being part of the narrative build-up, as well. For a little while now I've been of the opinion that Silver's successfully copulating with Celestia would be the culmination of the story; that it was the "decisive battle" awaiting the end of his trials in Anugypt. If that's the case, this was the initial match, the one where the hero loses and then has to push himself harder to try and win the re-match later on. Of course, there's no guarantee of that happening here, but that strikes me as being the real poetry to be found here.
Wait wait wait...he has a character sheet? (I'm guessing this is just banter, but my inner nerd demands that I ask.)
6083043 He does not have a sheet. I never tired to form one for him. I haven't said in a while, but thank you for your input. It's been seriously helpful for the story and helped it move forward the ways it has. You've been sort of co-writing this without even knowing it for how much you've influenced the flow of things.
6083174 Aww, thanks!
I've long felt that it's not enough to simply consume the things that I like; I want to be a part of them, and the best way to do that is to try and give something back, in hopes that it will be worthwhile not only to other fans, but ideally the creator(s) as well. That you've been very encouraging in that regard is the main reason that I'm still so engaged with your work.
6083282 You do know Celestia never planned to force Silver into it, yes? By the time they left, her heat would have passed, and she would have calmly stated that it wouldn't work out. Silver was a stallion in form, but a scared colt in mind, and Celestia couldn't be truly attracted to that.
But then Silver grew some balls and took it into his own hooves.
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Hmm interesting, so is she trying to get him to learn to stand up to her?
I'm also staring to wonder about Luna's role in all this, after his suicide atempt she declared him broken and took him into her custody to fix.
But she never did actually "fix" him nor did she defend him when he needed her (in fact she betrayed him with the bet forcing him to become female), I'm sure they'll have an interesting conversation next time in the dream world.
Also unless you wrote it in the comments somewhere and I missed it, I didnt see any indication in story that she was bluffing when she made those threats to him.
6083395 I strongly suspected something to that effect, and I'm pretty sure I said something about that in a recent comment. Celestia has been making excellent strides with regards to how she's been treating Silver lately, to the point where her ultimatum was rather awkward for how it contrasted with her behavior otherwise. As such, the most reasonable conclusion was that she was bluffing.
In this regard, Silver called her bluff, and likely surpassed her expectations (which, I bet, meant that he did what she'd hoped for). I don't think that Celestia's saying "You're my husband. My stallion." was an idle comment - quite the contrary, I think that she was admitting that he'd earned her respect, and her love, with that act (which I'd take as being separate from whether or not he successfully impregnated her).
6084308 You know that Silver and Luna have, for the most part, worked out everything that happened before, right? Seriously, they've let go what they could, and forgiven what they had to. I don't see them as needing to rehash that particular rough patch anymore.
Also, Celestia's bluff wasn't something that had been unambiguously stated previously, but it not only makes sense in the current narrative, it's also the most likely explanation if you look at Celestia as a character, here.
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I'm actually thinking more of the current situation with Silver's actions in Celestia's failed scheme and his broken promises to Luna.
However given the way the story is moving I wouldn't be suprised if Luna knew something about Celestia's plan and if she did it would probably tie back to the past.
After all, he is still broken and getting into trouble because of it *cought*starlight*cough* and he does still need to heal, if anything with the whole starlight/almost murdered foals thing and the forced gender re-asignment have widened the cracks in his pysche since he tried to jump.
This story does often remind me (I blame paranoia) of "Diaries of a Madman" in that the main character has become adicted to sex as a coping mechanism and has to try to cut down as it is damaging to him.
If this is also true here then his breeder libido is definately hurting him (it certainly gets him into trouble) and maybe this is why celestia offered to "re-solar" him.
After the gender bend she knows he will out right resist if she says it to him honestly so was this her scheme to show him the trouble it's getting him into (was Aila asked to have a lunar foal then call rape to shock him?).
EDIT: It's also been a while since we've seen the shadow creatures and the Princesses know they're also interested in Silver and can attack his inner pain.
6084611 Wow, I could not disagree more with your interpretation of what's going on in this story.
First of all, Silver's promise to Luna...what promise is that? I have a vague recollection that it was something along the lines of her being the first alicorn to bear his child, but I'm hazy on that one. Even then, he and Luna confronted this when he initially spoke to her in their dreams several chapters ago, and they worked it out. This isn't going to be a point of friction between them.
Likewise, Celestia's "scheme" isn't a failed one. She was ultimately pushing Silver to see if he could "man up," and act like a stallion and a prince, rather than remain scared of confrontation (outside of life-or-death situations) and tiptoeing around the feelings of everyone around him. In that regard, she was largely using the Windsong sisters to push him, along with her own ultimatum. In this regard, she succeeded wildly. Silver has been stepping up to the proverbial plate. Yes, there have been rough spots, and even some fallout, but it was never about if Silver would be successful or not - it was about him being confident enough to try.
Likewise, I see nothing to indicate that Silver is "still broken" or that the "rifts in his psyche have widened." If anything, it's gone in the opposite direction. He's made peace with Twilight over what happened with their foal; not only has that brought them closer, but their foal is now fine and gestating within Twilight herself. Moreover, he's reached an understanding with Starlight, even if she's still sad that she can't be with him the way she wants.
Moreover, Silver is not "addicted" to sex, and he's not using it as a coping mechanism. I really don't see anything at all that would indicate that. He's still prone to insecurity, sure, and he's having to adapt to numerous unfamiliar situations, but he's not ignoring them in favor of sex. Rather, he's having so much sex as a combination of recreation and "duty" (to breed lunar unicorns), though the latter is still largely an excuse for recreation at this point.
In other words, I don't think that Silver is still broken. He's imperfect, to be sure, but he's in a better place now than he has been in a long time.
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As you said back when they formed the circle of royalty Silver made that promise, in the later dream conversation when Silver and Luna spoke about Clestia wanting to try and the dangers involved Luna got Silver to say he'd wait until they can "find a way to test the magic requirement" because it was too dangerous. While it wasn't a promise this time, it was still a second agreement not to mate with Celestia (at that time), and he still went back on it.
While I'm not sure what the scheme was and I'm mainly sounding out ideas externally I am fairly sure there was more than one scheme in place, the manning up/being proactive scheme is one but I believe this was as a pony and as a prince with another plan that involved in the mating with Celestia, as David said:
If her plan was to wait until after the heat had passed and then turn him down it logically could not have involved them mating before hand therefore this part failed.
The last two points I'm not sure how to answer as it's more based on an internal feeling but I will point out that in the first chapter of this story Silver feels ashamed of what he's doing for Luna:
Also yes he has forgiven past transgretions by the ponies and is closer to them but
Forgiving is not the same as forgetting, to me it seems as though he's trying to fight it now rather than running away, but it still feels as though the pain is still there and not healed.
EDIT: I remember a news piece where a woman was crippled in a mugging and the father said "as a man of faith I have forgiven the sinner, but I cannot forgive the sin"
Here I feel as though he still sees Celestia as a threat to his safety and life (and he would have died if not for Luna's intervention) and could no longer take the waiting and decided to "charge the guns" rather than go out on his knees.
EDIT: Or that he's being tortured by seeing the executioner's axe over his head and decided it's better that he either dies now or gives her what she wants so the axe will go away.
Also I'm glad you disagree with me, I need to prune some of these ideas that are rattling around in my head.
6084839 Insofar as Silver and Luna agreeing that it was likely too dangerous for Silver to try and put a foal in Celestia, that's all it was: an agreement. More specifically, they were concurring with regards to how they felt about that particular course of action, rather than forming any sort of binding pact or verbal contract with regards to what action should (or should not) be taken. While that may sound legalistic of me, it's to point out the fact that I don't feel that there's any sense of accountability on Silver's part with regards to this. The spirit of that conversation didn't include anything along the lines of Silver giving Luna his word.
I don't disagree that there are certainly multiple "schemes" going on, but without any further parsing of in what regard you're referring to, that's kind of a no-brainer. Celestia, by her very nature, is used to shepherding ponies - her consternation throughout this entire series is that her usual methods don't work on Silver, due to his alien upbringing. She seems to have worked out a better methodology now, but she's clearly still very uncertain, particularly since he now occupies a unique position, both as her husband and as a male alicorn.
That said, I don't think that Celestia's "plan" to wait until her estrus was over could in any way be called a "failure," simply because that was her setting a time limit to see if Silver would act like a confident stallion, rather than a timid colt. In that regard, he did what she was hoping he'd do, even if she didn't expect him to do it.
With regards to the passages you quoted, I don't believe that those show that Silver is ashamed of his studding duties. Rather, I think that he's somewhat embarrassed over them - shame and embarrassment are not the same thing. Moreover, I think that his embarrassment is rather pointless in this regard, for several reasons. For one thing, studding is seen as a fairly ordinary part of life, even if it is nowhere near the scale that Silver's operating on (most studding, I would think, is incidental). Secondly, while Silver may think of himself as fairly libertine for how much casual sex he's (supposed to be) having, there really is a larger point here, that being that he's trying to father a new race. Silver doesn't seem to realize that, at the end of the day, this isn't about him - it's about allowing there to be lunar unicorns, which has larger implications for lunar ponies, and Equestria, in general.
That's why I enjoyed that scene with the nameless, rather matronly, mare at the beginning of this story. Ultimately, Silver isn't studding just to enjoy himself. He has a job to do, and so far he's barely doing it - knocking up Aila brings his instances of successfully studding to a grand total of...three (Starlight, that nameless mare, and Aila). Creating a self-sustaining new race will require that, within the time-frame of a single generation (between twenty to thirty years, roughly), he personally sire several hundred lunar pony children...and that's a dead-minimum. More realistically, he'll need to have several thousand within that time.
In other words, his embarrassment (which isn't shame) is largely misplaced.
Finally, I don't disagree that Silver still carries scars from his past - even in the beginning of this fic he's clearly still somewhat tense around Celestia - but the thing about scars is that they're what you get when something has healed over. I don't think that he sees Celestia as any sort of threat to his safety. His using of the word "attack" wasn't literal; it was metaphorical for his being proactive, rather than let her set the terms of their relationship and make all of the decisions. He is, on some level, aware of her telling him to act like the stallion prince that he is, and he's doing his best to step up.
6084901 Well, that and Celestia basically said she'd pin him down and be the top if she had to. As sexy as it might be to be ridden by the sun, he took his fate into his own hooves.
6084951 That too!
Well... Depending on the game and the format I would bet that luck is actually on the character sheet.
6583553 Is his high or low?
fair
Silver be "Dropping Loads"!!! LOL!
I was wondering how well the sisters would avoid sleeping together. It seems the answer is "mostly." I hope they're better prepared for Luna later, as awkward as that may be. "Silver's about to do his duty by me, be prepared to assist, sister."
Also, Luna totally needs a matching tail band that talks about her being his light in the night.
I think, Book Butt is a better name
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But he has no book on his bottom.
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Hmm, if I recall correctly his cutie mark is the text of his first spell, a fireball so...
Hot flanks? Pepper balls? Fire bolt? Flame spout?
Ya... I know... I'll just... I'm gonna go now.
Solar flare?
Coronal Ejection?
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It was meant to be a light taunt.