Battle 12: Trixie VS Gilda - Second Look
We put a lot of work into researching for these battles, but even we have to admit we may have screwed up along the way!
Our very first battle, pitting the unicorn stage magician Trixie against Rainbow Dash's old griffon friend Gilda, was not nearly as looked into as we look into battles nowadays.
A lot of you have pointed out little bits of info, such as "Hey, Trixie can't summon more than one lightning cloud!", and while normally we ignore this sort of thing, we still want to make extra sure our battles are completely accurate!
Today, we'll be watching Trixie and Gilda fight once more, this time using the decision processes we use for battles nowadays to look back on flaws and information we missed.
He's Yah-Shee and I'm Arrell!
And it's our job to accurately analyze their weapons, armor, and skills to find out who would win an Equestrian Death Battle.
Seeing as we already went over most of the information in a previous battle, we'll be skipping all of that and getting to looking over information in ways we missed last time.
One really popular complaint you guys had was that Trixie shouldn't be able to teleport!
For one thing, it was never stated in the show that Twilight is the only pony that can teleport. And since both she and Trixie have magic itself as their special talent, it's likely that if one can do something, so can the other. The difference between the two is, as we stated, that Twilight has more raw power while Trixie is more experienced with what she has.
For example, let's say they both made a fireworks display. Trixie's would be really flashy and colourful with all sorts of cool lights, while Twilight's would consist of one gigantic light explosion in the sky. Huge, but really not that much to look at!
Seeing as how Twilight teleports around with absolute ease, it's likely that the main reason she can do it is because of her large amount of magical power. Trixie would theoretically be able to teleport rather quickly and to the exact spot she wanted, but not nearly as often.
But we're not just running off of assumptions here!
In her debut episode, Trixie performed a magic trick where she summoned a bouquet of flowers. As the act of creating matter is scientifically impossible, and there was nothing for her to transform-
Not to mention transformation spells being impossible for even Twilight to do at the time and not really brought up until season three!
-that leaves only one possibility: she teleported the flowers to herself from somewhere else. So she can definitely teleport objects, and it would not be out of the question to teleport herself.
One other thing you guys brought up a lot was the lightning clouds, saying she can only summon one! Honestly, this one kind of intrigued us.
First off, we can assume that the average adult mare is about four feet tall from hoof to head, ignoring their manes. This would mean that they would also be about two to three feet long, ignoring their tails. In the scene where Trixie summons a lightning cloud to zap Rainbow Dash, we can use Applejack as a comparison against the cloud by removing her hat, tail, and a certain amount of her mane from the image.
Through this, we can figure out that the cloud Trixie summoned was just under two feet tall and five feet long! Since we can't measure thickness due to the show's style, we'll have to go with the idea of a symmetrical cloud, and assume it's five feet wide as well!
Now, a cloud is made of water vapor, and there is always certain amounts of water vapor in the atmosphere. While just creating a cloud out of nowhere would be impossible, it would be possible to use magic to collect water vapor into a cloud, and so the idea if Trixie gathering water molecules into a roughly five-by-two-by-five-foot cloud is not beyond possibility. Gathering it into a lightning cloud, however, would be much more difficult.
Lightning is created by separation of electrical charge and generation of an electric field within a thunderstorm, and believe it or not, cold weather effects such as ice, hail, and graupel are essential to lightning development! If a cloud can't produce a lot of ice, it probably can't produce a lot of lightning!
...Arrell, I didn't know you knew so much about lightning. That's kind of...
Shocking?
...I set myself up for that one.
Yep!
Anyway, we have determined that, actually, we were wrong in the end. While the creation of a single lightning cloud or a series of regular clouds would be easy for Trixie, creating a huge amount of lightning clouds would be much more difficult. This also explains why the best she could do against the Ursa Minor was a single lightning cloud, and didn't summon more or a bigger one.
We can't accurately go by the information from Magic Duel, since Trixie was powered by the Alicorn Amulet, so that episode is basically-
Ah ah ah! Hold on a moment, Arrell.
Huh?
Yes, the Alicorn Amulet powered up Trixie's magic greatly. But that's exactly it.
...huh?
"Even though it provides great power, it also corrupts the user!"
"Provides great power". That's all the Alicorn Amulet does; it greatly enhances the magical capabilities of the wearer. Everything Trixie did in that episode, she can still do. It'd just be harder, since she'd have to work her magic a lot more in order to pull it off.
Then why the hay doesn't she use that power more often?!
Well...she's lazy. Plain and simple.
"You and I have some unfinished business...my magic's gotten better since I was here last. And I'm going to prove it!"
"Got any new moves in your tricktionary, or are you one hundred percent old school?"
Alrght, the combatants are set! Let's properly end this debate once and for all!
IT'S TIME FOR A REPEATED EQUESTRIAN DEATH BATTLE!
"Well, this looks familiar," the unicorn muttered as she entered a clearing she knew from long ago. The sound of wings flapping alerted her to a presence behind her, and quickly jumped to the side, barely avoiding the swipe of a talon.
"Alright, you little horse," a griffon long since thought dead growled. "We're getting a round two!"
Quickly, Trixie flared her horn up and summoned a cloud over Gilda, intending to quickly end this battle the same as before. Gilda saw this coming, however, and flew out of the way just as the lightning came out, hitting the spot where she just was.
"That won't work on me twice," the griffon declared haughtily. With a charge, she slammed into her opponent, knocking her back several feet. Rolling to her hooves, Trixie thought quickly. Just as Gilda was charging at her again, she summoned a small fireworks display, creating a series of blinding lights in front of her foe. Disoriented, the griffon missed her completely.
The pony did not let this opportunity be wasted. She ran up and tackled, grabbing onto the back of the slightly larger creature. Wrapping her hooves around her neck, she tried to strangle the griffon, but other plans were in the mind of her potential victim.
Using the close range to her advantage, Gilda swung a talon behind herself, cutting Trixie across the cheek. The unicorn's grip loosened, and that was all Gilda needed. She grabbed onto her forelegs, pulling them down to her chest where no real damage could be done, and flapped her wings. Quickly, she took off into the sky, Trixie still on her back.
"Get ready for a ride!" Gilda chuckled. She flew around at top speed, making Trixie dizzy and slightly nauseated. Getting an idea, Gilda flew down towards a large tree. Turning around, she slammed into the bark, back-first, crushing the unicorn between herself and the wood. She stayed there for a second, then flapped her wings again and flew off. She found another tree and repeated the process.
Trixie grunted in pain. This was beginning to get to be too much for her. She started concentrating on her magic again, trying to keep one spell going despite all the hits she was getting. It was hard, considering this was a spell she had only done once before, and that was with help.
Gilda hadn't noticed her unwilling rider's glowing horn, and continued to fly around, smashing her into anything she could find.
POOF!
Suddenly, Gilda lost control of her flying. She yelped as she began spiraling out of control. Out of the corner of her eye, she saw her right wing. It had suddenly grown!
Unable to pull herself out of her descent, Gilda braced for impact. She slammed hard into a tree, crashing right through it. She hit the ground and completely released her hold on Trixie's legs. With a bit of a stumble, the unicorn jumped away from the griffon.
Growling, Gilda started to get up. "You little...fix my wing! Right now!"
Trixie was panting heavily. "Even if I had...the energy to do that...I wouldn't." She smirked.
With a roar, Gilda ran at her...only to fall over due to the excess weight on her right side. With a grunt, she hit the ground again and tried to get up.
"Say, have you ever heard the saying 'lightning never strikes the same place twice'?"
Gilda looked up. A black cloud loomed over her.
"They lied."
ZAP!
One powerful electrocution later, all that remained of Gilda was - once again - a pile of ashes.
K.O.
There we go, people! Happy?
See, I could go into a list of reasons as to why Trixie won a second time, but...really, it's the same reasons as last time. This battle's outcome wasn't affected because the lightning clouds - and even the teleportation - from the first battle weren't part of the research. They were only there for the battle's sake to make it interesting.
So now you can stop griffon us so much hate over this!
The winner was and still is Trixie.
Next time on DEATH BATTLE: Equestria!
We took a break from the tournament to do this, but next time, we'll really be getting to Hunger Pains VS Marr Bell! Stay tuned!
Got a suggestion for a Death Battle? Post a comment below suggesting matchups, or send me a PM with suggestions in it!
You may suggest OC characters, provided they are from a story on this site that is at least somewhat well-known.
Please do not suggest matchups that have already happened. You may suggest individual characters to appear in matches against a different opponent than one they have fought previously, but suggestions like those are less likely to be used (unless I REALLY like the idea).
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I'm glad Trixie still won. It looks like most complaints were mainly attack related and not the battle tactics of the fighters, which in my opinion, was a big part why Trixie won both times, she's just much more clever.
2656910 Yeah; people tend to complain about stuff I only did in the battle to make it interesting. I'll be honest, this battle was less to actually take a look back and more to tell people "It was only for aesthetic purposes, shut up!"
That ending was genius.
*sees in feature box* Oh hyes! MUST READ!
*notices MULTIPLE chapters already done*
Oh my god, HOW DID I NOT SEE THIS BEFORE?!?
*reads*
Was there ever any doubt?
Yeah it makes sense that without any real training an griffin with anger issues would be stomped everytime vs a smart magic user
Tag Team Battle!
I like that you're taking on OC's, but is it just me, or are most of the OC's sent your way horrifyingly over powered? And not only that, but a lot of them seem to be coming from some fairly bad fics. I definitely support the idea of OC fights, but... any chance that once the tournament's over you could select ones that are a bit less... dumb?
On another note, Blackjack vs Littlepip sounds seriously awesome.
WHO!
IS!
DEADLIEST!?
2657071 If I did, people would complain about how I gave her "outside help" or something like that.
That ending reminds me of
that
Jeez. Reminds me of the whole Cloud vs Link thing. IT'S FOR SHOW PEOPLE! THE BATTLE IS NOT WHAT DECIDES THE OUTCOME: THE RESEARCH IS.
Oh, and anyone else notice this came out the same day as He-man vs Lion-O?
2657277 I noticed that; I was hoping I would have some sort of battle come out today as well, and this was the best I got.
2657277 My moneys on He-man!
2657284
New season starts for Death Battle and this fic updates its first battle...
Fitting.
2657305 Yep. Sadly, I can't view the actual He-Man VS Lion-O battle until 9PM when it gets publicly released, so NO SPOILERS PLEASE!
Chessverse!Chrysalis VS Nathan 'Omnius' Traveller!
The Unstoppable Queen of Destruction Versus the Indestructable Traveller of Good!
It'd be like a MLP version of Goku VS Superman!
2657443 I've already got the MLP Goku VS Superman idea...and then one that goes beyond it.
2657473 ...holy shite.
W: *reading a question* How come in the battle between blank and blank, this guy/girl did blank when he should of done blank etcetera etcetera? Fan rage! *stops reading* Really people? Really? Okay look. The Death Battle itself does not determine who wins. We first compile all the research data we can on each of the fighters and then compare it.
B: Then we put all that together into an animated fight for your entertainment.
Huh... deja vu.
2657473 what is it?
A very interesting AND much needed revisit indeed. Jeez, some people just don't know the meaning of "Battles are for Entertainment Purposes Only." Unfortunately, the main Death Battle series always has to suffer through this too. But hey, what can we do?
Arell: We can just yell in their faces: SHUT UP! It's our show, and this is the way we're gonna do it!
Yah-Shee: Only WE can admit a mistake we made.
Hmm....very true indeed, guys.
I too also find it VERY appropriate that this revisit is released on the same day as He-Man vs Lion-O. Too bad it's only for Advantage Members until 9 tonight. I was expecting to come home from school for a new episode, but hey, this right here definitely more than makes up for it, I was on the edge of my seat wondering if Trixie would reclaim the win with this playing in the background:
The whole thing about lightning striking twice in one place kinda reminds me, ironically enough, of Turnabout Storm. If you guys all watched the first 4 parts that are currently out, you'll know what I mean.
But anyways, great job as always, and very informative too. Keep up the great work. I can't wait to see Hunger Pains VS Marr Bell! And whatever this "MLP Goku vs Superman" equivalent will be. If it's not Twilight, or Celestia, or Rainbow Dash, or even Discord, who COULD they be....? Hmm...
Also, opinions on He-Man vs Lion-O before it finally airs?
... Anon from Five Score, Divided by Four
and
... Ranma from the comic series Ranma
2657549>>2657667 The MLP Superman VS Goku is going to be...well, if you follow my blog, I spoiled it a while ago. But I'm not gonna spoil it again. And the even bigger battle? No spoilers for that at all!
He-Man VS Lion-O? I never watched either show, but while I'm rooting for He-Man, I feel Lion-O is gonna take it.
Well, what about the death ray she attempted at the end of the episode that turned into a tickle taser? Not that this changes the outcome of this battle, but it goes to show not everything was still within her reach.
2657693 Ah, well alrighty then. *searches through blog*
And while I feel neutral about both combatants, I have a feeling He-Man MIGHT possibly take the win. but I guess we'll have to see.
Zecora... I would LOVE to see the herbalist, mysterious magic zebra who LIVES in the EVERFREE FOREST fight, ANYPONY!!! ... She definitely deserves the chance to prove herself here.
As for who to pit her against, I'm not sure... While it might be fun to see her legitimately try to kill the Cutie Mark Crusaders like she was accused of trying to do to Applebloom in her introductory episode, I doubt they'd be much of a challenge.
Maybe Twilight? ... Or maybe Trixie? Pit the mysterious potion-mistress against the magically charged denizens of Equestria.
Or maybe Pinkie Pie... the other mysterious, though for different reasons, individual in the show. Zecora bends the laws of nature to her will, and Pinkie Pie breaks them... might be interesting.
2657706 She put less magic into the spell than she needed because she thought she was still powered up. Plus, like I said, it's not necessarily that she can do everything with or without the Amulet; it's just that, without the Amulet, it takes a lot - a LOT - more magic and concentration.
2657061 Well, the OC's are generally paired up against another OC, thus balancing out the "Over-powered"ness of the characters. think of the original Death Battles, did they have one of the Street Fighter characters fight Goku? No, they make sure that the power levels are at least closely matched for a somewhat even fight. (tournament not withstanding since its a bracket)
As for the bad fan-fics, well, that's personal opinion. Besides, other than Pen Stroke (and maybe a few others) I highly doubt there are that many published authors on this sight; so don't expect every story to be extremely amazing. Also, its the characters fighting, not the fan-fics
I do wholly agree on the Blackjack/ Little Pip fight though
Well, this has been interesting... carry on.
GYAH THIS WAS SUCH A TEASE!
I finally thought that Hunger Pains was finally up then THIS is up!
My heart... I don't know why, but I am nervous about my Hunger Pains's upcoming battle!
THE SUSPENSE! ITS KILLING ME!
HP: Both of us really...
So basically, if people keep whining about it, the chances of a Death Battle getting another look go up? This information will be useful for my plans. Er, I mean, um, ignore that last sentence!
2662652 No, whining about it only made me want to shut people up. I did an actual battle redo of sorts because the first two battles were done in a weird manner compared to nowadays; the second battle, though, isn't gonna change no matter what. It's obvious.
Huh? No roster death battle chapter?
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I just had an idea. For one of the Death Battles, you should do your OC Pop Filter vs. Zero's OC Mirror Image. It would be amazing.
2689093 Mirror Image is a lot more powerful than you'd expect. Zero's writing his backstory, and long story short, one of his attributes is that he's a couple hundred years old and about as strong as an alicorn.
2689783 Oh well in that case never mind then. I do hope he gives a proper explanation for why MI is that strong.
2689892 He does, trust me. It's just that the matchup wouldn't be very even since Mirror is clearly much stronger.
2692710
Chronicle: *appears again* Hmm? Oh. Who are you two?
The Catalyst: Is that Starfire's...
Chronicle: How should I know?
That moment when the actual DEATH BATTLE is updating faster than this.
2799138 I am aware of that. If it helps, I'm planning to have two back-to-back battles released one right after another to make up for the lack of updates.
Go, Marr Bell! You can do it!
2800016
That fixes everything for me!
By the way, how did you select the battles for the tournament. Like, how did you chose the match ups?
2827911 I assigned each challenger a number and used a random number generator to decide the matchups.
Pinkie pie vs deadpool.
how long till the next chapter it been like 2 or 3 months
2963825 I don't know. It'll be out at some point, and when it comes out, I'll be back on a regular updating schedule.
2963849 Since then, I've become angered. You owe me a kidney and five lungs.
2982570 Fuck da pow-lice.
2994952 Only Starscream can beat Starscream.