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I, for one, thoroughly enjoyed Mrs. Cake's uphill battle against Ginna's one-track mind!^^
Oh man, can't wait to read this when I get the time tonight!! :3
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I'm glad you are anticipating it. Feel free to leave your thoughts. I do so love hearing what people think.
Loved it!
A very good tale, and nice backstory for the cakes. Love it.
I'm going to start this off by stating how disappointed I am in seeing that there's so many downvotes to this story. I think it's clear the people who downvoted this didn't bother to actually read the story.
I think this turned out as a very thoughtful piece of fiction, one that surprisingly has no rape, or even any of the more darker elements of FoE. The sex is there, but it takes a backseat to the more important theme of culture shock. I feel bad for Carrot, who clearly has a lot going against him. I wouldn't be surprised if later down the road, he gets blanked and turned into a mare. There's a lot going against him (who trusts a gangly chief anyways?) and it's a wonder he keeps his sanity. I won't ask where his foals are at cause blah blah blah FoE has no foals blah blah blah....
The main selling point for this story is the culture of the caribou, presented really well by Ginna. It's really hard not to like her, because in a way she has no flaws. She's not complex, but she is very interesting for a mostly flat character. She is the model slave that the caribou want in pony mares, and she comes of as a better red collar slave than most red collar pony mares too. There is very little about her that is pushed into extremes, and while there is not a lot of stories where she plays an important role, this story couldn't have delivered its point without her.
Speaking of the point, I thought the story did a good job of selling the idea that in the caribou culture, being a slave doesn't have a negative connotation. A slave belongs to a master, and the two take care of each other. It basically boils down to that. There's a perverse sense of innocence is all that which I find compelling. It's important to note how Ginna sets up the tail of that legend by stating that, in those times, there wasn't a color code. No black collars, purples, or reds, just a collar to show that a female belonged to someone. The mention of being put in a pen with other mares, traveling with a favorite sex toy in a box designed to allow the slave to easily suck of her master while traveling, that's all the culture shock material that isn't suppose to make sense to someone who isn't part of that culture. Cupcake is right to think Ginna is nuts, but she doesn't realize that is what Ginna knows, that way of living, and to her, it's not wrong at all.
The legend itself was pretty interesting, and it's a nice take on a creation myth. I think Gunne sums it all up rather perfectly to Cupcake and the reader:
Honestly, that's the point of any story. Being able to take something away from what you've read or listened to, some lesson or idea, is all that matters. And clearly it matters to Cupcake, enough to... you can't say break her, and you can't say convert her, but she basically makes the choice to submit in order to save her husband, or her master/owner. There is a nice parallel there between Carrot and the caribou in the legend, both loving their mare/cow in their own way that doesn't quite fit with how others feel they should be doing things, and both having females that go above and beyond out of devotion to their man.
This story does a lot of good things, provokes some thoughts after reading, and most importantly, develops the character of Gunne and Ginna. Being that their suppose to be the antagonists in this story, giving them some dynamics helps pull them out of the flat character depiction that comes with the FoE stigma. In a way it's pretty easy to see how no pony, stallion or mare, is going to successfully adapt to caribou culture. You can't erase one culture and implant a new one without consequences. It raises questions as to what the point of the invasion for the caribou was, because it seems clear that there is no need for black and purple collars, it doesn't help their society any more than it helps to have stallions like Carrot and Mac that are viewed as defective. Why not just blank all the mares and reprogram them to fit the culture? It puts Gunne's position in Ponyville as something that needs more spotlight; what's his purpose there, how's it fit with his culture, and how can he hope to succeed?
I guess another way to look at this story is that it shows lots of grey, rather than the extreme black or white we normally see in a FoE story, with its generous layer of hyper sexualization.
Regardless, this was a good read and in my opinion, a very successful story. When are we getting some art of Gunne and Ginna? That HAS to happen!
This is the first FoE story that gets an upvote from me. (But I have also never downvoted a FoE story so far.)
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A thorough analysis. I can't disagree with much of it. But have you considered the possibility that there might actually be a grain of truth to Estra's story? If so, it may tell us more about caribou cows and caribou history than we might think. I think we should consider this possibility precisely because Gunne denies it so explicitly.
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Not sure how true that is. I have a feeling the cows would act the same way no matter what, that they would serve at the pleasure of their masters and their actions would be towards supporting their masters and making them proud. I think in all likely hood, that legend did not happen, and that it was just a story a male caribou told his slave, who told other slaves, and spread the story around much like any other legend or myth would begin. Just given that the story was told to a slave, it's going to be taken as fact because a master said it happened. I'm curious if the name Estra was really given as a nod to a very horny ideal of a cow.
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The name is probably made up. The reason the story looks so implausible is because the cows we get to see in the stories clearly wouldn't be able to do what Estra did. As Mrs. Cake said, there is no way Ginna could have pulled the sled with Gunne on it. But if we assume only for a moment that there is a grain of truth to the story, what would that tell us about caribou cows, caribou nature, caribou history? The caribou are trying to change the mares of Equestria to suit their own ideals. Who says they haven't already done something similar in the past? Remember that this is also the story about how the collar system was invented!
God damn, I never thought I would have total feels in a FoE story. But having Carrot and Cup Cake dealing with this and being THIS loyal to each other in that environment, even as to go as far as to willingly go red collar to protect her husband, has my feels going even higher.
If only the Caribou knew how seriously we took cooking here on Earth.
5510611 I completely agree with this statement. First of all, we need small stories such as these, just to give us some information about Caribou culture, that these guys aren't just the cruel rapists they seem to be portrayed in the art that has been released yet. We need more things like that.
And second of all, we definitely need art of Gunne and Ginna, but I'm pretty sure there's a piece of art that seemingly depicts Ginna with Applejack, as the art preview from that chapter where Applejack was giving fellatio to all those other stallions as an excuse of her insubordination.
5515126 It seems to me that the Caribou are basically forcing their religion onto others while at the same time, just want to spread the word. Am I crazy for thinking that makes sense?
The story is cannon I understand. But in Twilight Falls, another cannon story, we see how Princess Cadence corrupts the magic of the Crystal Heart to turn all Stallions to be more agressive and stuff like that. How is Mr Cake not affected?
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Some stallions are immune to the spell for one reason or another. That is why Big Mag is also immune and how there are some stallions in the resistance.
This story was good on a world building level. And that's what I enjoyed the most.
We have plenty of stories about the characters and how they are and all that, we need more world building stories!
5583819 Is there any future plans to explain just WHAT makes them immune? Like, Is it genetics? Is it something on their minds (like, how they used to be before the Fall)? etc.
Can Mr Cake make her a red collar just like that? Isn't there like a guideline that says when and how a mare is a red or black collar?
Also, what happened to Pound and Pumpkin?
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For the most part it is up to the owner to decide if and when a mare is ready. Now if a mare was acting in ways that would be unfitting for a red they might be investigated on, but you can see in Bruised Apples that this is not the case for Ms. Cake. Actually, Bruised Apples touches upon this subject a bit more.
Pumpkin and Pound are around, but they will not be spoken about or referenced directly in official FoE stories because of the policies of both FIMFiction and FoE in general.
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Well, I'm also just a clueless fan, but I love to discuss.
We know of two ponies who are immune: Big Mac and Mr. Cake. Forming a theory without at least three cases is always risky, but maybe we should make a list of things these two have in common.
5859889 this may me an old comment, but there r actually three known stallions who have been found to be immune. Big Mac, Carrot Cake and Breburn Apple. now, the only common trait that all three share from what i can see is a dedication to Family, Breburn actually makes a practice of buying up all the Apple mares that he can in order to protect them. being a homosexual Stallion, mares really dont do it for him, but he does have a relationship going with Little Strongheart. this is touched on in the Bruised Apples chapter 'Apploosa'
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Well, I made that comment exactly five days before Bruised Apples' Appleloosa chapter was released. But yes, Braeburn is another example. And I absolutely agree with your analysis.
6574434 well, i did not know that, but i thank u for accepting my analysis.
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As a matter of fact, I think you're spot-on.
6574763 however, that being said...if that is a fact, then all males of the Apple family should have the same immunity...that is not the case from what i have seen thus far...
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Hm... which other males of the Apple family have we seen so far? The Caramel from the third chapter of Bruised Apples actually isn't an Apple, because Caramel Apple is a mare. So yes, there are two different background ponies named Caramel out there. And I can't remember having seen any other male member of the Apple family in any of the stories or images. But I may be wrong.
6574813 while the male is not strictly an Apple, they do have ties to the Apple family, i refer to Mandarin Orange as the named Stallion, though Big Mac does lament a few times that other males in his family r not as coming about Mare rights...
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Not sure who Big Mac's talking about though. He could mean anyone. Also, appearances can be deceiving. Braeburn's masquerade had also convinced him, and Braeburn revealed himself to him only when he thought it was safe. Also, when it comes to other branches of the family, afaik the Cherries are also distantly related to the Apples. The strong sense of family seems to be a trait of the "core" Apple branch though. Well, maybe the Pies have it too. But the Oranges and the Cherries seem to have it to a far lesser degree.
6575114 perhaps, but we may never know...
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Shades of gray? I hate fantasy now. Seriously, FoE literally made me hate fantasy because people end up saying "Let's fuck up everything but it means nothing because fantasy." You are the most extreme cultural relativistic I have ever seen. I still thing you are a decently good human being, but hope you never have political or social power and choose to stay away from women, children and the vulnerable.
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If I'm a good person at all (and I struggle everyday to be) it will be because I see the line between fiction and reality. You hate Fantasy because of some person's fanfics? You're going to write off ever reading the works of JK Rowling, Ursula K LeGuin, Tolkien, or Anne Rice because a handful of pervs made a silly rape fic? That's stupid and intolerant. That's the kind of bullshit thinking that made people in power think violent video games and movies breed serial killers.
I suppose in the end you have to do what you have to do for yourself and your mental well being, and I suppose nothing I say will convince you that you're putting too much stock in a story you don't even like and should by all counts be ignoring (did you even read this story?). I feel sorry for you.
You're clearly lying when you say that you think I'm a good person. That's fine, we'll never met anyways. Surprisingly enough, I can be a good person to others. I can be patient, understanding, and considerate. I can show respect and happiness to the few friends I have even when it's to something I don't fully agree with or understand. I feel like I've done all this for you already, but at this point I feel I need to tell you to not involve yourself in things you clearly hate. And if that means avoiding the people who like the thing you hate, fine, I won't expect a response from you.
If you take anything away from this I would hope it's this: Don't be a judgmental bastard to others just because they like something you can't understand. This fandom is suppose to be about love and tolerance and being accepting of others, but I know very people bronies actually practice that mindset. No one is making you read Fall of Equestria. No one is telling you to like it. I will tell you though to ignore FoE because you don't like it, and would be happier if you did ignore it. For the sake of your own peace of mind, you should give it a try.
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Everyone has a level of general respect and value by virtue of being a human being. On that level I think you are good. Barring evidence to the contrary I can think of you like... an anarcho-syndicalist or something. Not my political ideology and very far removed from my social ideas but I can respect the shared humanity and the thought that goes into the position. But it comes down to the idea of what someone would do divorced from having to take responsibility for their actions. FoE is like a weird social checksum. It attracts and produces people who end up like Yahweh, those whose lack of accountability make them envision complete madness. Maybe it's just me, I don't know. The Veil of Ignorance means a lot to me, and I prefer that to most other things.
FoE actually does one very good thing. The harder core and more niche a sex story is, especially if it's ahegao and sexist, the better of a war story it inspires. It's essentially a gimme. It will come off as black and white mostly because the originator started with irredeemable monsters. Perhaps it's like playing a game on easy mode, but they have the mode, so use it. It's fun. And often creative. Frankly, I never could have made my own pony Santa without the caribou. So good on old NCN for that. Also, commission art. I have some cracking good agitprop in the queue once I have the dosh.
I actually rather owe them all thanks. Heck, you, personally should actually get some credit for inspiring my zebra Zivante, the new Mare-Do-Well. I owe you my thanks and a pint, and some appetizers. If I could I'd toss you a little green for being inspirational. It takes a special sort.
Mr.cake is a chad.