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Holy shit.
Well that happened...
I must say, I don't really get the Fluttershy comparison (well I do). Everyone seems to forget that Fluttershy made an actual fucking effort, whereas Sunset only showed up because they were at a stalemate, and then continued to be a total bitch.
I don't understand why Sunset would try to feel like a human by fucking Armor - which alienates her further from everyone - rather than actually trying to atone. It was like she didn't think her plan through at all. An hour or so of feeling good is worthless if it means almost certainly destroying your chances of having it again.
EDIT: This was a really good chapter. The group is realizing that Sunset has some big mental problems, and they pity her, but they're smart enough to know that she might be playing them
That whole dialogue made me both laugh and relieved that they're not easily swayed.
Well after this I am pretty sure Sunset is either possessed, or has split personality.
Man, I've gotta say, Shining Armor's reason for cheating on his wife with Sunset has got to be the lamest excuse I have ever read. "Because she looks just like this girl I had the hots for in high school"... Seriously? He slept with Sunset after everything she had done just for that? I'm not buying at all.
Well... this happened.
I honestly think it is a mistake, but I guess that caution is better than the back-and-forth they've been having so far. Still, I don't feel that this gut feeling will be disappearing.
One interesting tidbit was that Sunset can command the Hunter Shadows to attack especific people, which lends to believe that they'll just attack at random any other time.
Also, she confirmed that 3 Shadows are left, meaning that Leo is still on the run
after his Oscar().Finally.
This line is extremely amusing.
How very interesting. It seems that for the first time ever, the real Sunset Shimmer (and not an act of her's to get what she wants) has been shown to Flash and company. Yet is what she saying the truth or what she believe/wants to be the truth? The answer to this question, and if Flash and the others can correctly answer it before it is too late, could very well be the key if this game with Zodiac finally ends.
Hm. Interesting chapter. I might post more in-depth thoughts later. Also, I'm looking forward to that extra content in the LTE version.
KO awesome chapter and I believe that Sunset not actually the master mind we thought she, I mean she is but not at the same time. Like there's something deeper going on here.
6878955 I don't know. Would you have took 'because he's a moron' as a better excuse?
6879126 I'm just saying that there were so many better things than "She looks like a girl I had the hots for in high school" or "He's an idiot".
6879140 True. I'll agree with you there.
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Anyone who has some knowledge of the later persona games (3, 4, arena 1 & 2, Q, and Dancing all night) have the feeling that there is usually something behind the scenes pulling every one like a puppet play. .
But kudos on getting it before the big reveal (whatever that happens to be).
6878950 Well, considering her persona is a demon, it's a plausible theory. Though, if I were in their place, I wouldn't rule out her manipulating us either
Well, when you said it was a pivotal chapter, I didn't think you meant (Persona 3/4 spoiler) the chapter right before the branch from the good or bad ending. Not sure this is what you intended, BUT that's what I got from this.
I'm honestly scared right now. That, and something that Sunset said in her conversation with Flash makes me wonder... what IS she? Is she just a messed up high school girl, or...
I am SO stoked for the next chapter.
Great effort with this chapter, Sir!
I really love how Sunset is trying to make friends. I never knew that she was that miserable inside, but I may have detected that slightly to be honest ;)
And I think that punch that Flash planted on Shining Armour was very well intended. Revenge is sweet
6878955 Sometimes people do things for incredibly stupid, childish, and petty reasons.
Hmm...
I feel kind of bad for saying this, but I still don't totally trust Sunset. Part of it is metanarrative; given all the buildup with her Persona, I find it very unlikely that we're never going to see it in horrible action. Part of it is... well, she really hasn't given any reason to trust her, and while I can believe that she's turned over a new leaf out of sheer isolated desperation, it's also possible that this is her most elaborate con yet. Still, that is straining credulity at this point. But given the history of the Jester Link...
In any case, I have to wonder what led to Sunset's isolation. This isn't just a matter of a girl telling herself that she's strong and everyone else is weak. If Sunset is being sincere, there is a notable gap in her ability to process cause and effect. Sure, that could just be the desperate need for someone to acknowledge her without wanting to punch her, but it may be an actual inability to process social cues. I'm not got to make an armchair diagnosis or anything, but this just doesn't feel like the behavior or thought process of someone with a clean bill of mental health.
...Daaaaamn.
No matter what, this can only end badly for Sunset. But maybe, at the end, she'll have someone to lean on when it all comes crashing down.
Well, the story status is still 'incomplete', so... no.
6879324 That may be true, but this really strains creditability. It seems like a thing that Shining Armor only did just to advance the plot since it doesn't feel like something his character would do with such a flimsy excuse.
One: Holy shit, plot. Plotplotplotplotplot. And I'm surprised that I'm the first to say it, but finally Sunset got the bitch slap that she deserved. For everything.
Two: May have to look at the LTE chapter. Need to catch up on the Social Link bosses there anyways. ...What? I like seeing the names of the moves! Makes me feel like I'm playing a game...
While I can understand Sunset's reasoning, it doesn't mean she has to be a bitch. I know that being alone, she lashes out, and well she thinks she's so powerful. But in the end, power matters little when she's all alone. She even gave up the blackmail material, but I have a feeling something's up. Her trying to redeem herself out of the blue just doesn't make sense, but her reasoning is something we can relate too. Deep down, we're scared to be alone. Though it does not excuse her fucking Shining. So, maybe this is what Zecora meant about the truth about Sunset. But I'm still keeping my eyes on her when she decides to do something terrible.
Does she deserve a second chance? Does she deserve forgiveness? We have to wait and see. I mean, we saw what Zodiac did to Fluttershy. Probably did something to Sunset too if she can control Shadows. All that darkness and negativity, if you're exposed to it long enough...I can't imagine how that could feel. Fluttershy described it best. It seeped into her skin.
But what is Sunset's Persona? That is the question.
So, good luck on this story. It's a very, very, very long one but each chapter, even the short interludes of slice of life, is worth it.
Wow! That was one turning point. I was hoping he wouldn't do it but Shining actually cheated on his wife. Petty reason if you ask me, but hopefully Cadance is more forgiving. I'm not really sure how to handle this situation with Sunset. It seems like she wants to change and maybe she really means everything she said, but I'm not sure where it is all coming from. She tried to kill them herself before and now she wants to be their friend? I feel like something had to happen to her to make her want to amend things, but what? At the very least the blackmail and backup servers are gone so that's a major turning point, unless there is another secret she's hiding somehow. For some reason just becoming friends with her seems like it would be too easy, and things are never as easy as just that.
I find myself forgiving Sunset too, and if I were Flash, I would tell her about the Shadows. Also, how many of you are willing to bet that Sunset's Persona underwent an alteration like Flutters'?
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Yeah this is probably my favorite chapter, but that excuse is by far the worst part of the chapter.
Also, throughout this fic I've always hated Shining Armor (except when Flash had sex with Cadance) and now he's the worst character in the fic. He's not a bad charecter storytelling wise, but he is the worst person in this cast of charecters. Worse then Eris, Sunset, those kids who beat up rainbow, and Pinkies family combined. The reason? He made up a stupid excuse. His charecter is the only one in all of media (books,fics, TV, movies, and video games) that truly enrages me
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As someone who graduated in psychology, I fully agree with your last statement.
Let's see: Failing to adapt to socially accepted rules; Dishonesty (or manipulation); Impulsiveness or lack of foretaught... Just with those three criteria, and assuming she's at least 18, I could say that Sunset has an Antisocial Personality Dirsorder.
However, I can also find traits that could suggest a Histrionic Personality. Mainly her "need" for people to pay attention to her, plus her seductive/lascive attitude towards others and her tendency to draw attention to her physical features. The only reason I can't claim it is a Disorder is because she's short 2 traits and she isn't in the "Adult Age."
Of course, there are things that I'm not seeing here, because our vision is conditioned to what Moth is presenting us with. These observations are only that, so I'm not claiming these as fact. It's only a theory.
(Note: this analisys was done using DSM-IV-TR, which while resent material, it is currently outdated by the DSM-V; using these criteria to diagnose real people whithout having a psychologic degree is strongly discouraged).
May have said this before, but I feel that this is one of the funniest lines in the whole story because of the context.
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On the other hand, if there's anyone in his life that falls under "fuckable" plus "zero chance of entangling relationship", it's Sunset.
And having a wife who honestly has deep issues with keeping out of the pants of others probably doesn't help either.
I poke at it. It jiggles.
I poke at it again. It giggles.
"Not on MAH property ye ain't."
The rustling was Twilight digging herself deeper in her sleeping bag.
"HEY! This farm ain't no nudist colony, git your buck-naked butt back in 'ere!"
I snap to attention. Where exactly did she have her hands?
"But I don't think Sunset and Scootaloo make a good couple. I'm not Rarity and even I know their colors clash horribly!"
I hear a low growl building up in Big Mac's gut.
"...OK, Applejack is off-limits too."
"She was bad?"
"And she turned up everywhere."
"You're the boss monster of bitches!"
"Twi--"
"When people take pictures of the Loch Bitch Monster, they get blurry pictures of you!"
"Tw--"
"You know what the top selling game was last year? Monster Bitch Hunter 4, starring you!"
"OK, Twi, timeou--"
"You graduated from Monster High--"
"All right all right, enough, Twilight, I think she got the point."
"...what, like Pinkie?"
"Yes, go do Pinkie."
"Eris didn't sleep with any-- Eris didn't rape you then seduce my brother!"
"...point."
"Hmm..."
"What ARE you thinking now, Sunset Shimmer?"
"Just how Fluttershy and Shining Armor would NOT make a good couple."
"Can I deck her now, Flash?"
"But I got Fluttershy to climb up there and glare at it until it goes away."
"Is that why Fluttershy herself is now hanging upside down from a branch?"
"You sure? I was just going to punch him for a while. Cadance is going to do that and so much more."
"You're worried you'll be an aunt to just one kid?"
"Oh, I know for sure she's cutting something off. I'm talking about Cadance making herself a widow."
It is vengeance! It is the night!
"Twilight, that was my bacon..."
*chomp*
"OW! That was my HAND!"
"Just let it be, Scootaloo, you don't want to get in her way right now."
"Big Mac? Y'sure y'all wanna listen to this?"
"Eeeyup."
"Gonna get some juicy gossip, huh?"
"Eeeyup."
"There! I've erased all her pictures from our... encounter... that night."
"Uh, that's great, but what about..."
"Oh, right! All the blackmail stuff on you too. RIght, right."
"You... you erased all of my Flappy Pony high scores."
"Yes, yes I did."
"Hey! Some of us are big fans of Pretty Pretty Pegasus!"
We all stare at Twilight.
"At least I am..."
6879551 I wouldn't go that far, I was just saying the "reason" why he did it/her was incredibly poor. We're really expected to buy that he would have sex with the girl who has tried to kill his sister, his wife, all their friends, raped Flash, is responsible for the deaths of at least three people and numerous other crimes... all because she looks like a girls he had the hots for when he we in high school? Yeah, that totally sounds like a believable thing for him to do.
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It could be possible that I overreacted. Oh wait, NO I DIDNT. Moth, if you wanted me to hate Shining, you are the best writer ever cuz I really hate Shining
6879578 People have done far worse things for far more idiotic reasons. Whether you buy it or not, that's you, but as presented in the story, as far as Flash and the reader are expected to believe, this is what Shining was thinking at the time. Yes, it's an incredibly idiotic reason, and he's going to suffer consequences for it. But it remains to be seen whether or not there was more to it than that...
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I've had a theory for a while now that Sunset isn't fully in control of her own thoughts and actions. If the evidence we've seen so far of Shadows and Persona possessing unique personalities and wills of their own is anything to go by, than the line between master and servant is far blurrier than it would initially appear. I strongly advise against taking my word for it, but I foresee Sunset screwing everyone over, only to discover that someone else has been screwing her over from the start. Also, considering MythirlMoth's attitude towards Starlight Glimmer's own "reformation", I wouldn't take what's happening with Sunset here too seriously.
6879659 I sincerely hope that there is and Shiny just said the stupidest damn thing there, but I'm not sure there's anything that could make this seem good.
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This may be my pessimistic attitude at play but does that line mean we should expect something to be shoehorned in to try and make up for something people don't seem to care for?
6879683 Do I strike you as the kind of writer who caves and rewrites things due to readers' dissenting opinions? I'm just saying that it's possible you haven't been told the whole story yet. It's also possible you have. All you can do is wait and see.
6879217 there's still her dad.
6879217 Not just the later games
Nyarlathotep was playing a very long game in Persona 1, 2a, and 2b.
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What happened here is not like Starlight's 'reformation'; Flash hasn't outright forgiven Sunset (given what she did to him, forgiveness is not going to come that easily). Instead, he's given her the chance to prove that her intentions are genuine.
Huh... Sunset had her breakdown, it seems.
Still expecting a big fight with her down the road, but now my money's on her getting possessed or somesuch. Maybe she received her persona from the real big bad, which is ultimately the one in charge.
I am, as ever, always happy to see an update and ever eager for more.
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How about the creepy ex-janitor who may not even be human?
6879787 Regardless, I'm still not holding out for a happy ending for Sunset.
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That's pretty much what I was thinking.
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AFAIK, the main human antagonist of a persona game has never gotten an unambiguously happy ending. The best they can hope for is on the bittersweet end of the scale.
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True but at this point the number of people who are familiar with the first 3 persona games as opposed to the game series starting at 3 (especially with the anime adaptations made - which was actually my introduction to the persona universe in the first place) I would say would be much larger.
But yeah Nyarlathotep was playing a long game in the persona universe (one that might even cover the later games depending on if you believe certain fan theories).
6879833 That's what I'm predicting for Sunset.
Hearing this I have a theory on well the true main villain and it starts with sunsets own persona. Mephistopheles follow along here cause things are going to get a bit crazy very quickly. First how did Sunset get in the the Zodiac we all know there are only two ways to get in the first time that we know of. First is that you have to get pulled in by someone that is in the Zodiac already. The other was explained by Fluttershy earlier in the story. If someone who looks hard enough in Cantorbook's apps, the school's social web sight, hacking or other wise and find the Zodiac app download it and activate it. Now how Sunset would have gotten in is irreverent cause for the hacking or looking part she was in command of a shadow that could copy Flashes Persona's and was able to hack Fluttershy's soul as she said. So its safe to say that she hacked Catterbook and found it but again that's irreverent cause for the next part is where, Mephistopheles comes in.
Mephistopheles in German foak lore is a demon given to Johann Georg Faust by the devil when Faust sold his soul in persuite of worldly pleasure's do to dissatisfaction with his own life. He uses this power for a pletora of things but one of the main points is that he use her to seduce and in the process destroys the life of a beautiful and innocent woman. I think you understand where I'm going with this right? Yes I'm making the parallel of Fluttershy being that beautiful innocent woman and Sunset being Faust. Yes I kind of am stretching it with Fluttershy sense she was far from innocent when Sunset got to her but keep following along I'm going somewhere with this honest.
Like in the story when Fluttershy and Sunset meet Sunset uses the power of Mephistopheles to subdue and control her. And if you read all canon materal you would find out how far this goes. Anyways back on topic. Now back to Sunset. Throughout the story you find evidence of her using the very powers that Mephistopheles and by extension the Zodiac gives her to do just about what ever she wants to with no one able to stop her. From the first few killing up to Raping Flash using the Zodiac to not only do this directly but also likely use it to gather all her blackmail like Fluttershy did as Eris. Now there's one question left one most probably most of you just brushed of but not likely. Where did Sunset get her persona?
Now one could guess she got it when she had to Face Leo yes this is where the whole how she got in is irrelevant thing fianly comes in when Sunset is face to face with Leo for the first time in the Zodiac she's likely scared and confused about what was going on. Now What I'm purposing is that she didn't awaken Mephistopheles on her own. In the story of Faust it was only after trying to take his own life because he was so miserable with his life did the devil appear before him took his soul in exchange for Mephistopheles. From what I can gather of this latest chapter Sunset was likely the same why when she ended up in the Zodiac. So it's safe to bet do to a similar way of thinking she was probably ready for Leo to just claw her in half. This is when I think some figure appeared's before her offering her the power to do what she wanted to live a better life. Having nothing left to lose she would likely say yes to this almost instantly. This is when the this figure using her misery as the base awakens within her the Persona Mephistopheles.
There's one more question if one come to this conclusion who is this figure that appeared before her that apeared in a way that she likely doesn't know. Well I have two idea's on who they could be lets start with the one with the matching Arcana Red flag/Juan the Janitor.
Juan for the first part of the story always apeared after a shadow had been defeated and do to his behavior had more extensive knowledge than he was letting on. From what we know the Zodiac is like a program turned in to a dimension on can alter it with the right know how and Juan he himself admits that he was the lead programmer to the original version of Cantorbook a few year's back with death hapening at the same time. Sound familiar right. Another clue to this is when Sunset is using that shadow that copy's Flash's persona one it has the Devil Arcana card right inside it. I don't think it's to far of a stretch to think Red Flag used his programming skills to give Sunset a Fake persona and maybe even pull her in himself.
I do have one more idea but its a bit more out there but has some evidence to back it up. The next person I'm purposing is one that was only brought rarely in passing but is another likely candidate. Who I'm talking about is Sunset's own father who has yet to get a name but here we go. First we start with Canterbook. His company is the one that runs it while its true that stuff could happen without his knowledge but it's also just as likely for him to keep a close eye on it or even program it himself. He could have even taught Sunset programming which can also explain her skill with the zodiac maybe. Now for the big part he could have also pulled the same thing Red Flag could have pulled heck he might have been able to do it even better than Red Flag sense he the guy that made the thing. Pull his daughter in to the Zodiac and gave her a sort of pre-programmed Persona leaving her to her own devices. Why he would do something like this is anyone's guess same with Red Flag as well.
Now what happens next can go one of two ways if the Sunsets story is set up Like Faust's story. She could be dammed forever and fall with the person behind everything. Or they can go with the more modern story and have Flash and his harem save her from her own mistakes. What ever happen's beyond this point is up for speculation but will see.
Now I hope this theory even if it's wrong gets people to think on the possibilities of who could be behind Sunset and the Zodiac itself. Anyways thanks for reading everyone.
Enjoy the art in life my Friends.
*goes off to read LTE version and sees that it's not out yet* ............Whyyyyy?
Okay... Before I read the rest...
Shining why? Pourquois?!
Ow. I felt that one. Lemme just get back in my chair.
Not even gonna lie there, I'd think that lowly of you from Sunset's perspective. Not that it's not deserved, but...
Hey Fluttershy, your pet's on the loose.
There's not gonna be any more? Awww... I got out the megaphone and boxing gloves for nothing...?
....Rarity kinda has a point there.
................Did... Something happen here that Flash is unaware of that'll become important later?
...Nah, I'm probably overthinking this.
Oh. That's why. I can wait.
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...Couldn't he have asked Cadence to play dress-up as the bacon bitch?
I mean, sure, it's weird, but... Cadence's libido>Cadence's reason -sometimes.
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...You say "Zero chance of entangling relationship", but...
That's what, like, all of what just happened right here.