A seven-teen-year-old Catholic Brony. I was previously interested in adult MLP fan-fiction, but I am leaning away. I aim to write entertaining fiction, while remaining at a level of censorship.
(Contains references to The Bible; read with caution.) After being summoned by God to teach the ways of God to every speaking animal in Equestria, it is up to me, Elyjah, to figure how to fulfill the command. I have been told from the Messengers to always wear a robe inscribed with my name in it, and it appears to be my guide in this world. But how would the life here react to me?
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Don't mind me, I'm just sitting here listening to Rich Girl by Hall and Oates.
4538717 It already came my friend. It already came.
So when you say references from the Bible, you mean it basically centers around it.
NOPE
So, self insert Christ-centric fic?
Would Jesus agree with a teen rating?
how long until Sweetie Belle has to perform fellatio to get out of underground sex dungeon?
I'm not sure if it's a wrong thing or a right thing to ponify the Bible...
Elijah's a better name.
As a Christian who tries to be as respectful as I can to other beliefs, I have one thing to say to this.
This. Was. A. Terrible. Idea.
Wow, there is a word called subtle. If you don't get the point of that statement now, I can't help you. You can't just go around shoving religion into everything. I know that for our faith it is a serious matter, and that in our minds it is life or death, but that's not how everyone sees it at all, and not how we should be reacting to our world. We are trying to spread our good news, and we can't do that by forcing our ideals upon people. We simply try to sow the seeds of kindness, and hope that our actions can help others to what we perceive as the truth.
In all honesty, this is hard. It's very hard to balance your religion and what we are called by it to do with respect for the beliefs and privacy of others. The best way I have found is to simply be there for those who need someone, but I honestly fail more than I succeed. It's part of being human, I fail, I get angry, I don't say what I should have said. It's all about finding the right thing and going with it, even if sometimes the best option is just to wait patiently and be a shoulder.
Making a Christian centered fanfiction is probably not on the list of good ideas. In fact, I generally consider it a bad idea to create a religion-centric anything while on internet sites not related to religion, or unless asked. This is because it then is perceived as an attempt to shove religion down others' throats just by it existing. It may not seem that way to you, but that is how it is being perceived.
Please, remove this fiction. I don't wish to bash you, or to accuse you of blatant flame-mongering, but that is probably all of the attention this story will receive. The internet has a weirdly delicate balance with this sort of thing, and tipping it can't lead to any good. For your sake, and for the sake of cooler heads prevailing, could you please at least un-submit this story? There are other ways to spread the word, most of them considerably more wise than this endeavor. I don't claim to be better or wiser than you; I'm not. I just don't want to see this devolve as it probably will. Good luck to you as an author, and I hope that you find your balance.
Cheers.
I'm not sure about the concept, but trying to spread Jesus through Fimfiction is still awesome. I shall give this story its first like!
4538906 If people would like to hear word of god, they will go to church. My friend, I do not think that holy book needs to be mixed with ponies. If you wish to spread the word, hand out flyers and promote your church in your neighborhood :)
I'll give it a second like, but I believe this was a terrible idea. I am a very strong christian, but I think this story was damned to have many enemies. Still, I would love to see you keep writing it, no matter the feed back.
In fact, I will read this as soon as I can. And God bless all, even the ones who disliked this.
4538992 I need not the blessing of a god, for I am Snuggly! Champion of Freedom!
4539002 Who is your profile picture of? I could swear I've seen it before.
4539004 She is champion of fashion, my friend.
4539006 Fair enough.....
4538922 I don't necessarily think ponifying God is right, but I do think every way possible to spread the Word of God is a good way.
4539082 I agree. With flyers and advertisements and church. whether it is truth or not is for them to decide.
4539088 The Bible says to make disciples of all nations, preaching to everyone possible, not just advertising for a church, so for a Christian, every good way possible is great. Whether this story is a good way or not is debatable.
4538918 To be fair, he or she is not shoving Christianity down anyone's throat, (s)he's merely making a Christianity-centered ponyfic available to those who would like to read such a thing. It's up to those that find this fic to choose to read it or not to, nothing's being forced on anyone.
Don't let anyone tell you that this is bad. It is simply brilliant!
It seems this fic has spawned a religious debate. Hmm...
This story had some clever bible jokes, but it's delivery method I find a little off. There's no need to get so highly descriptive, leave a considerable amount of the story to reader imagination. Remember, writing is show, not tell.
I'll probably keep my eyes out for CH 2
4539184 Thank you, I'm just trying to help out here. God knows I've seen too many religious "debates" devolve into squabbling that serves no purpose and leads nowhere. I may seem a mite hypocritical in my statements, but I just don't want a religious shitstorm here. Thankfully there doesn't seem to be a big one here yet.
I don't understand why people are downvoting this. I'm an atheist, and I find this could be a good story.
4539125 You sir, have stolen the words right out of my mouth.
To the author,
Now I know that there is very strong opposition to any sort of Christian belief out on the vat network of the inter web, but I have to say that this debate in the comments is very hypocritical. People have many stories with gay characters and straight characters. They have racial prejudices and lack thereof. But as soon as any sort of religion other than atheism shows itself it is told that it is wrong and should not show itself every again because it is an idea that is not universal. So what if people don't agree. I don't agree with lots of things but I still listen to them to at least consider the opinions being presented. It's a matter of respect. I think that some people on here that have commented have been very disrespectful to this belief. They came and read this to show that they have very little self control but a very big mouth. It shows that they cannot stand being told that there is another way to think than what they do. Let them be bigoted and judgemental. Let them break their own rules as they try and defame your name. It shows how little they are inside. Write your story and show that you have an idea that is different than the mass of people. I want to hear this story because it shows a view that had not been taken before. Spread the possibility for free thought and expression. They went out if their way to put you down. That means you're doing something right. In the end, we cannot just sit by and let people tell us to think. God will judge us and only he can tell us if we are right or wrong. That last sentence is my opinion but I still think it is true. Just because some disagree with my opinion does not mean I should hide it. It means that I should show why I have my opinion in case others might find something good out of it. I respect anyone's attempt at creating new beautiful things and I applaud your courage to write this. Please continue.
Sincerely,
Tom the bomb
4539731 You speak as if I should throw myself on the floor and BOW to someones beliefs. How about this. A religion must earn the respect that it feels it deserves. Or did you think that any belief system is entitled to respect?
4538842 my dear sir, I think you might have also missed the meaning of the word subtle because there seems to be a lack of it in your response. Please explain to me why writing a story and giving people there possibility of reading it is in any way, "shoving religion into everything" as you put it. He is in no way making anyone read this. The author even goes out of his way to make sure to describe his story as a Christian and bible centered story. None will read this story unless they want to.(Wether the reason be a piqued interest, or to show bigotry) I think that it might not be as effective as other methods but if the author is trying to spread a truth in his mind, let him have his peace. Give him the space he needs to create and enjoy creating. Just because you don't think he will have a good reception for his work does not mean you have to put him down too. We as Christians are called to spread the Word. Not just kindness. Anyone can spread kindness. Only a believer spreads the truth of Jesus. This is because they believe more than just kindness. (In no way am I insinuating that you are not a believer) I just want you to realize that maybe he feels called to express his faith through a story rather than other mediums.
But I still want to thank you for expressing yourself. I do believe that I come across heavy handed sometimes and I don't mean to be. You saw something that made you feel concerned and you spoke out. I may disagree with your opinion but I want you to know that I think you are wrote in the face that there are other possibly more effective ways of expressing our faith in today's society. You are right in the fact that it is hard to express it and balance privacy and I have not mastered that either. Please comment back if you feel that I'm not in my right mind. We all need guidance. :)
4539809 I just think that we need to respect or differences while still holding onto things that we feel like holding onto. Religion is supposed to be a part of us. So at least respectfully give someone space to create what they think is beautiful and expresses their belief. If you want to show that you have a different opinion, start at where you are in agreement and work to where you have diverged in thinking. I find it very interesting to talk about life experiences with people and go back to where I began to believe. Everyone has a story to tell. What do you believe and how did you come to that conclusion?
But no to the second part. There are some beliefs out there that are not acceptable and should not be considered.
4539852 My friend, you tell me this but you call others who might not like to see this stuff on site for ponies bigots. I simply do not see where you draw line. Is it okay for atheist, who honestly see religion as harmful, to be vocal about it? I've seen angry Christians scream of hell to those with opposing beliefs. Should i give them pat on back?
I don't like the defense of "bible tells us to spread truth". Makes it to easy to see negative opinions as bigoted. Other man said keep it in religious forums. I agree. here it is all about pony.This story is like me buying big sack of bibles and going to E3 and preaching and than getting mad at gamers for being annoyed with my preaching.
I have no beliefs. I try to be good person. I try to live rich life. Existence or lack of god does not matter to me. I don't care.
I also don't like bit where you say kindness is just kindness. Go to middle east and spend time in active bomb shelters and then come back to me and tell me how small kindness is compared to truth of bible.
4539822 I probably did show quite the lack of subtlety. Sorry.
On the internet, I have found that all too often people will gravitate towards things involving religion, whether for good or bad intents. Mostly for bad, if the site isn't about religion anyways. Upon seeing the amount of dislikes and negative attention in the comments that the story was already attracting, I decided to speak my mind on the subject. It isn't, in my mind at least, shoving anything down anyone's throats, but to many it seemed to be doing just that.
One of the points that I hoped to express was that anything involving religion on the Internet is often met with nothing but flames and dislike, and with the notion that the person is forcing their religion upon others just by their religiously tied creation existing. I hoped to stop a continually negative spiral in which a lot of things would be regretted, just like on the fic that Rainbow Bob released around Easter that had Jesus in it.
I'm quite relieved that that didn't happen, at least so far. It's actually nothing short of a miracle, considering the groups it is in.
The other point I wanted to express was that this probably won't spread the word very well. This isn't really the right place to go about doing so, in my mind. Sure, we are called to spread the word everywhere, but it's probably not the best idea to toss seeds upon the rocky ground or the sand. The internet isn't the best place because it is so often a place for conflict, where people hide behind shields of anonymity and can scream all they wish.
When it comes to religion, they most often choose to do so, and the original message is lost in the roiling comments section. I feel like it would be better to provide what can be provided, and avoid the sometimes faith-damaging conflict that comes with these things. I do also see your points, however, and have to agree. There is no easy way to spread the word, and no way that can please everyone. Sometimes we do have to take a little risk, and I understand that.
Sigh. Well, at least this wasn't on 4chan, I guess. *shudder. I hope that this fares better than my negative view on it's situation holds.
4539891 I think that I'm doing a very bad job of expressing my opinion. I think that you should be open to talk about your ideas and beliefs. You should make your ideas available in whatever way you see fit. But the minute you start forcing people to listen to you by making so that they cannot escape what you're saying, that is where you draw the line. The author was not saying this on a separate story. They created their own story and allowed people to come and read if they wanted to. And kindness is awesome! It's great! What I was saying was that kindness is not the thing that separates Christians from other believers of different religions and lack thereof. The "truth" as I put it, is the belief that Jesus died. That is what I was talking about as the difference. But I think kindness, no matter what you believe should be practiced. I just think that showing kindness alone is not a Christian expression because everyone should do it. :) doors that make sense?
4539941 Allah have mercy on your soul. Sad part is, all this fuss over pony story. Give it a week and the fic with Fluttershy fisting applebloom with a mace will be biggest hit of this sad little fic site.
4539895 I have to applaud you. I really do. Not very many people have the guts to admit that they could be wrong. And I feel like you could have gone off on me for my wording. I seem to be harsh sometimes. But yes. I do believe that it is very hard to spread any idea without backlash, let alone religion. I guess we just have to search for the best way and try to find it through prayer, reading, talking, thinking, or whatever other method is available. And above all else, wwjd. :)
4539963 yeah... it is sad that there is such a thing like that. I just wish that people could understand, contemplate, and discuss without argument. I feel as if we did a fairly good job though. :) at least I hope so. I wasn't too pushy was I?
I am NOT ponifying The Bible. What I meant by "references to The Bible", is that I am simply going to refer to some of the events in it through certain thoughts of Elyjah. My real name is Elyjah Vasquez, that is why I named the character and Fanfiction "Elyjah".
4540474 Oh, so it's a self insert too
4540551 Yes.
4540567 Just out of interest, how did you think this story was going to be received?
4540579 I expected a feud of some sort, and that is what I got. I did plan to make the best of fanfiction, and like I stated in "read at your own risk".
Yeah, no.
Being a religious guy too; yeah, no, this story, I can not even being to think of it (the idea)
Well um. This is certainly ... something to consider reading. Sometime.
I'm a devout orthodox (Protestant) Christian, and I certainly think it's reasonable to make, if not a "Christian translation" of any given work, at least excellently-written fanfics that are strongly informed by a Christian worldview... just as most would consider it reasonable to write good fanfics that are informed by various other worldviews, or simply other premises. There are quite a lot of fics here that go to some lengths to rewrite the essentially sugarbowl world of MLP in a rather grimdark way, such as Fallout: Equestria, Under a Luminous Sky, Harmony, Take Two, etc. Some do so well, by accepting and adapting the assumptions of both; some, not so much, by running roughshod, but hardly anyone considers that their authors are inherently and seriously misguided in trying to write and share a story that makes such modifications. Or, if they do, they usually simply give the story a miss, rather than downvoting and commenting angrily. So it's apparent that there's something far more significant about writing a blatantly Christian fic that stirs up visceral reactions that go beyond mere avoidance.
All that said, the story description and image frankly do not give me a great deal of hope that this will integrate smoothly. Alien evangelism (i.e. of pony/gryphon/changeling/dragon/donkey/cow/zebra in this case, and whatever else in others) is probably the hardest possible genre to get right, and discernment between legitimate critique of the writing and deeply camouflaged simple hatred of the purpose for writing is hard to do as well. But essential.