Ch 9: Clarity (v.1)
We had gone back to the royal sister's castle. In this time I had forced myself to wake, I did not like the dreams that followed levitating. There was one dream that I had repeatedly had where I was gliding mere inches from a night's black ocean. I could taste the salt of the water coating my throat, yet the dream yearned on. One detail I never quite picked up on was how to tell whether all my dreams were of insight, or my wit's leisure of fantasy. I'm sure every earthbound creature dreams of flying and the effects it holds to soar so freely. Just as every base creature drolls on about the lax nature of ali-horned creatures. I couldn't dare to fathom the power of Luna, Celestia... or any other winged unicorn. Darkness had blanketed the blue night sky, In Parnce we held all sorts of night festivals, My heart ached as Luna's guise of hope eroded during her flight to Canterlot.
I didn't need to ask why she felt so, it was not merely written on her face, but engraved on her heart. Her aura drifted like squid's ink in water, thick with pain, a pain she seemed able to hide well from Celestia. How could she be silent? I knew she needed to let her emotions free, she needed another to build her strength once more, yet I was not the one. She needed the support of love, the kind not even her sister could give. But a suitor I was not, and I let the thought pass me, as I thought of revisiting the treaty of our father's. This time would be different it seemed. There would be griffons, and two other equine tribes. Luna's voice cut through my contemplation. I looked to her, the sudden prickling throb crept down my limbs as they awoke. I leaned myself on to the Castle wall as she repeated herself.
"Do you remember where the guest quarter's are?" She asked.
"Yes. I'll be up there... I just need a moment." I admitted. I was pleasantly surprised she hadn't spoken in her father's tongue.
"I don't remember much of you Norm..." She caught herself before any trace for nostalgic tears peaked, and cleared her throat. "My sister cares dearly for you. Do not forget this tomorrow..." She whispered to me, then cantered into the castle.
I stood there, musing on her words. By the time I had cleared my confusion my legs had regained sensation. It was at my last step into the castle that I turn my gaze to Prince Umbra.
"How are you Prince De Parnce?" He chuckled.
"Pleased... but now I'm second guessing if I'll feel this way for long."
"Cheeky, Norm. You can keep your comforts... You'll need them for tomorrow." He rebutted.
I stepped closer to inspect his expression, it was hard to make out much with his complexion against the darkness. Such darkness that matched Luna's. He was grieving, or holding back some plaguing sorrow. "Umb-"
"Prince Umbra." He corrected me.
"Right. What are you the Prince of again?"
His irises sparked red as purple mist drifted from his eyes. "I'm a Prince of many things... but I know what you are really asking. 'What will I lord over one day?' Let us just say it is a land too bitter for you to know of..." His eyes reverted to normal as he added calmly "and it's best kept so." His magic flared and a green and black cloud-like portal stretched up from the cobblestone to his height.
I let him go. His emotion had drawn out my usual composure, thankfully I had made it to my room without an incident. Their posh guest room bed was far more inviting than my own in Parnce, but I didn't covet the sister's wealth. Nor envied it, with that much wealth followed darker emotions that my kind didn't fall prey to.
"Prancians know their limits, when to say no... when to give up, what to fight for. " I remember mumbling before the down-feathered pillows wisped my conscience to rest.
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4555118
Uh, no, thoust is not I, it's you. No derivation of "thou" is "I". I don't know where you got that from; when I put "thoust" into the Google, the first thing I get is that it's an alternate of thou, similar to while and whilst. Spelled thou'st, it would indeed be thou hast.
"Thee" is not improper when used as second person object (similar to me, her, him), but is not proper archaic English when used as a subject. So "I shall give it to thee" is correct but "Dost thee like it?" is not... unless it's the variant of archaic English spoken by the Quakers, who decided to use "thee" with everyone and not conjugate it properly.
Also, you'd be more likely to use "you" with a prince. Thou is familiar or speaks downward. If Luna doesn't know Norm that well she should use "you", because they're both of the same rank, but either of them could address a servant as "thou". (The princesses would use it with each other because they are sisters.)
4659398
I stated that in my edit,
** I forgot that thou'st means thou hast.
4659398 Thank you once again.
4661747
No, I think you're misunderstanding something.
Thou/thee/thy/thine mean you/you/your/yours. They don't mean anything else, they will never mean anything else.
However, you does not change conjugation between subject (I, you, he, she, we, they) and object (me, you, him, her, us, them). So it's hard to keep straight the difference between thou and thee. If you're just thinking "Oh, thou is you," you might say "I shall give thou a present", which is wrong; it needs to be "I shall give thee a present". So if you think about, "What if, instead of talking about 'you', I was talking about 'him' or 'me', what form would I use?" instead of just mentally translating everything to you, it becomes easier to figure out when to use thou and when to use thee.
Here is an extended example:
"Thou art a fool if thou thinkest that I shall forget thy treachery! Ponies forever will remember thee as the one who corrupted and broke all that was thine!"
"Really. Thou hast it backward entirely, I believe. Shouldst not thou be saying instead, 'I am a fool if I think that thee wilst forget my treachery?' For 'twas not I who betrayed thee first, my dear. I was simply returning unto thee the service thou hadst delivered unto me."
"Neigh, the first act of betrayal was thine, foul miscreant!"
"Well, that is thy opinion, and in truth, thou hast the right to believe whatever foolishness thou wishest, but history shall remember this day differently, mark my words. The first act of betrayal was not mine, no matter what thou shouldst say. And my patience is done with listening to thy ludicrous untruths. Stand down and be silent, or I shall have to silence thee."
So in this little paragraph I've tried to include enough mirroring where the characters repeat back to each other what they just said, but with the pronouns changed appropriately, to demonstrate what I'm talking about. Thou is the subject form of the pronoun, the same way I, he, she, we and they are subject forms, but that doesn't mean it means I, he, she, we and they, it just means any of them could be the subject of a sentence. Thee is the object form, thy is the possessive adjectival, and thine is the possessive noun.
4661802 I don't get why you've posted the same information three times. I get it really
4661877
Because you kept asking if it's really the same word to use for "person I'm talking to" and "myself", or "person I'm talking to" and "that guy". Maybe our comments crossed somehow or there was a lag but it looked like you asked that question after I'd responded to it the first time. If this is an overabundance of information, I apologize; I must have misunderstood your question, or there was some kind of lag.
4661914 I don't put any of the blame on you, you are trying to re teach me. If anything I'm at fault, because you've not only provided text examples, but worded the archaic rules in a different format. I give you full rights to slap me if I continue making errors in the story.
4661802
I translated the examples you gave as a test.
"Thou art a fool if thou thinkest that I shall forget thy treachery! Ponies forever will remember thee as the one who corrupted and broke all that was thine!"
"You are a fool if you think that i shall forget your treachery! Ponies forever will remember you as the one who corrupted and broke all that was yours!"
"Really. Thou hast it backward entirely, I believe. Shouldst not thou be saying instead, 'I am a fool if I think that thee wilst forget my treachery?' For 'twas not I who betrayed thee first, my dear. I was simply returning unto thee the service thou hadst delivered unto me."
"Really you have it backwards entirely, I believe. Should not you be saying instead, 'I am a fool if I think that you will forget my treachery?' For it was not I who betrayed you first, me dear. I was simply returning unto you the services you had delivered to me."
"Neigh, the first act of betrayal was thine, foul miscreant!"
"Niegh, the first act of betrayal was yours, foul miscreant!"
"Well, that is thy opinion, and in truth, thou hast the right to believe whatever foolishness thou wishest, but history shall remember this day differently, mark my words. The first act of betrayal was not mine, no matter what thou shouldst say. And my patience is done with listening to thy ludicrous untruths. Stand down and be silent, or I shall have to silence thee."
"Well that is your opinion, and in truth, you have the right to believe whatever foolishness you wish, but history shall remember this day differently, mark my words. The first act of betrayal was not mine, no matter what you should say. And my patience is done with listening to your ludicrous untruths. Stand down and be silent, or I shall have to silence you."
4662017
Very close but one error.
you have as
It's "all that was yours." The idea being "your treachery involved destroying that which you were sworn to protect/that which you owned/cared for." Like a ruler who did something that ended up harming his own people.
"thine" = "yours". That one is actually not so hard to remember because "yours" does take a different form. Where you would say "your" it's "thy", where you would say "yours" it's "thine".
Other than that I think it's all right.
4662045 Whoops. That's was a slip of the finger. I'm glad to see I'm not just puffing smoke though, give me a moment to digest some breakfast and I'm sure I'll be slapping myself for those errors.
I finally had a chance to read this chapter. I must saw you are making a beautiful pre-character for Discord.
4559800 I'm not gonna lie. I literally just got the notification for that message.
4782742 wow...where have you been DDiscord?
4782765 Life decided it would be fun to kidnap me.
So far I now have about 80 updates in favorites for Fimfiction.
4782778 making good progress!
4788911 Haha I wish.