"... How are you, Sophie?"
"That's not my name."
"Shh..."
"Is this your brother and sister?"
...
"I asked you... a question."
"Yes."
"Okay, you and me... We're gonna play a little game. It's kinda like... wheels of fortune. Except, there's no wheel... and I aint gonna give you no fortune."
"Come here... come here. Okay, here's what we're gonna do."
...
"You're gonna choose... which one lives, and which one dies."
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"You bastard!" With that, the white one with a purple mane straight up charges me. You've gotta hand it to these ponies, they've got balls.
Hm?
Oh, yes. I picked the purple one up and was going to carry her to a safe place, when this crazy bitch with a british accent attacks me out of nowhere. She must have been stunned by what I had just done and just got over it. Also, why she didn't just attack me with magic I'll never know. I guess blind rage can do that to people.
Anyways, a pair of my guys tackle her to the ground and come up holding her a few moments later. She's yelling something I don't understand at them, so I cut her off.
"Yeah, uh... take her back to the camp. Make sure she's tied up. Separated from our other prisoners." I hold purple bitch up. "Take her too. Same deal." They carry her off as Razor Blades walks up to me.
"Any plans boss?" He asks while wiping some of the blood off his knives.
"Well, I could go for some cake." I smile. "There's a bakery around here, isn't there?"
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Pinkie Pie was scared. That was quite unusual. Normally she'd just giggle at the ghosties, but that didn't really work against scary ponies. They weren't just scary, they were mean, too. She'd seen them hurting over ponies and stealing things..
"Don't worry Pinkie." Her friend Applejack whispered. "Everything's going to be okay."
The two of them had decided to hide behind the counter of the bakery until they could come up with a plan that could solve this mess. Granted, it was a horrible hiding spot, but every time the duo had tried to find someplace better, a red pony had run by the door, scaring them back into hiding.
They weren't alone, either. There was at least five other ponies hiding under tables or whatever other furniture they could find. The Cakes were among them.
"What're we gonna do?" The pink mare asked. "What if they come in here? What if they-"
Her ramblings were cut short as a boot collided with the door of the bakery, sending it flying open. They ducked down as several beings entered the building. They couldn't see them, but they could hear them.
A long sniff was about the first thing they heard. Followed by a single voice.
"Oh... god." There was a short pause. "It smells fucking amazing in here, doesn't it, hermano?"
"Sure does, boss."
"I can see cupcakes right there, in the counter." Another pause. "Those look good, can you get me one?"
"No problem."
As the hoofsteps got louder and closer to them, the two mares held their breath, praying that they wouldn't be spotted.
There was a shattering of glass, then the steps faded before loud chewing was audible.
"Wow. This... this is fucking great."
More silence, them shuffling and a gasp.
"Oh, fuck. I'm sorry! I had no idea I was with... a lady." Scrambling. Muffled yelling.
"Where are my manners?" A chuckle. "It was so rude of me to talk with my mouth full." The muffled yelling became whimpering.
Another male voice spoke up. "Don't hurt her! Please! I'll give you anything! just don't-"
A loud smack was heard.
"SHUT THE FUCK UP!"
"You son of a-
"I SAID SHUT THE FUCK UP! SHUT THE FUCK UP!"
Whoever was yelling took a few breaths to calm down before continuing.
"What's your name?"
"C- Cup Cake."
Pinkie gasped before quickly covering her mouth, fearing she had been heard.
There was a short burst of laughter that confirmed her fears. "What did I tell you? Where there's one, there's always more."
Realizing that her hope of escaping had been lost, Pinkie quickly turned to her friend and wispered. "Applejack, he knows I'm here. I'll distract him, take the back door. Get to Sweet Apple Acres."
"But-"
Pinkie shook her head, eyes intense. "Do it."
Applejack waited a few seconds before nodding.
The voice continued. "Okay, whoever's behind the counter can come out, or I'm going to hurt this lady. Badly." Another pause, Pinkie could swear he was doing it just for dramatic effect. "I'll count to five."
"... One."
"... T-"
"I'm coming out!"
As the earth pony slowly stood up from the counter, she took in the scene around her. A bipedal figure was clutching Ms. Cake and holding her off her hooves, a blade at her throat. Mr. Cake was in the process of getting up as blood ran from his nose. Several tough looking ponies were holding the other ponies who had taken shelter in the bakery at knifepoint.
"Hey!" The tall being exclaimed, dropping the mare and pointing his knife at her. "I've been looking for you."
The pink pony didn't answer him.
"What the fuck?" He asked. "You deaf?"
Upon hearing this, she sprinted forward, catching her oppressors by surprise. She easily got by the first two, and knocked the tall guy off balance as she sped out the door.
"Shit!" She heard a pony call from inside. "Get her!"
She looked back to see the group filing out of Sugarcube Corner and into the street after her. Everything was going according to plan.
Or at least it was, until she tripped. She only caught a glimpse of what it was, but it looked like a pony. More specifically, a dead one. She should have watched where she was going.
Anything else was cut off as the mowhawk man attacked her. He was on top her in a flash, trying to hit her with something metal.
"Mother fucker!" He growled as she blocked his weapon with her hooves. "Making me run!"
"Stupid little-" She never heard the rest as whatever he was wielding collided hard with her forehead and the world went dark.
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"Little pink..." I paused and took a breath. "Cocksucker."
I turned my head to see a group of five at the group of pirates looking at me, stunned. I guess they were surprised I beat a mare without a moments hesitation.
Or something like that. I don't know. These guys are kinda pussies.
"Thanks for the help... shitheads." I spat.
I swear a few of them flinched.
Okay, that leaves... only one more, and then I'll have all the element bearers which will greatly reduce my chances of getting stoned again. With that risk out of the way, I'll be free to do what I want. At least for the next day or so... until Celestia decides to come looking for these mares.
But, first things first.
"We're still missing one." I said as one picked up the mare and carried her off. "The farmer. We need her."
One of my guys piped up. "I heard she lives on the outskirts of town. By a big orchard."
"Then that's where we're going." I replied, a smirk growing on m face. "Lead the way."
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Applejack had never run so fast in her life. Every instinct, every synapse of her mind, every fibre of her being was screaming at her to go back and help her friend Pinkie Pie, but she fought them off. She had to get to her family. She had to protect them!
As she burst through the front door of her home, she could already tell that there had been some sort of commotion. Her kitchen had been totally ransacked. Pots, pans, and cutlery of all sorts littered the floor. She was about to go upstairs to check her bedroom when she heard yelling from her backyard.
"Where the hell is she!?"
When this question was answered with nothing but silence, she heard a loud smack.
Wasting no time, she galloped to the back door which was wide open. With her eyes as wide as the doorway, she took in the scene before her. Her brother was being held by a stallion about the same size as he was while a smaller colt with a red headband hit him.
Oh, and her sister was being held by a third goon and forced to watch. So there was that.
Applejack saw red. She immediately charged at the pony hitting her brother and bucked him with all her might. Years of hard labour had made her legs powerful, and she was almost sure she heard ribs breaking as the blow connected. The bigger stallion dropped her brother and tackled her, using his weight to pin her down. After struggling for a moment, she freed her left hoof and delivered a satisfying punch to his jaw.
Which he answered with one of his own. As her head snapped back and hit the earth, her vision swam. He was too heavy. She couldn't fight him.
As he raised his hoof to strike her again, something collided with his face, knocking him off her and onto the ground beside her. The sun was in her eyes as she looked up at whoever saved her from her attacker, but she could tell he or her was... very tall.
"You look like you could use a hand up, hermana."
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I hold my hand out to her. Come on you stupid blonde bitch. Take it.
I can tell she's hesitant. But that doesn't make any sense. Why should she be?
"Come on!" I exclaim, spooking her a bit. "There's more of them coming... I can get you to a safe place."
She's still thinking about it. What does it take?
"Your brother and sister can come too." I say, attempting to inject as much warmth into my voice as possible. It isn't really my strong suit. "What are you waiting for?"
Finally, she takes it. Grasping her hoof, I pull her up.
And promptly punch her in the nose as hard as I can. She falls on the ground, holding her face while crying out in pain.
Seriously, how stupid can you get? I can't help but laugh.
In between bouts of giggles, I manage to get some words out. "You- you fucking ponies..." I'm bent over laughing at this point. "G- get more- more gullible every day.... I swear!"
Motioning for the goons I had brought with me to come out of the house. Honestly, I'm surprised that my goons could get I walked over to the stallion I had kicked in the head.
"Look at me. Hey!" I get his attention. "Look at me... okay, do you know why I did what I did?"
Blank stare. Goddamnit.
"Hey! You fuck!" I swear to god. He's pissed me off. Let's see if another kick to the ribs will loosen his lips. "ANSWER ME!"
"Y- yeah I do." He finally gasps. I can tell he's already got a black eye. "You told us not to hurt them. I- I should have listened."
He doesn't deserve an answer, so I don't give him one. Turning away, I take a look at what's going on. Let's see, I've got one element bearer, and by the resemblance these three have to each other, her brother and sister.
"Grab them." I order as a pair of my guys pick up the two siblings and place them side by side in front of Applejack. I drag the mare of the hour closer to me. She's still a little dazed, and she looks exhausted, not to mention the bruises on her face.
I gently brush a strand of hair out of her face.
"... How are you, Sophie?"
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"What!?" She exclaimed, eyes flying open as I explained the rules of our game. "You can't do this! I- you- please!"
Her red brother was loudly making pleas for the lives of his family while her younger sister simply cried.
"Hey. Hey. Shh. Just stay quiet." I say to the pair before turning back to Applejack. Grabbing one of her hooves, I place it over mine, which is holding my pistol. She's fighting my grip, but she's still weak. That, and there's another stallion holding her in her place.
"Don't- please! no no no no- STOP!" She's getting more and more terrified as time passes. I'm slowly moving my hand to the left and then the right, alternating between pointing the gun at her brother, then her sister. Chances are, she doesn't even know what my gun does, but she can probably guess that it's going to do something bad.
God damn, that crying is really annoying.
BANG!
The gun goes off with a crack as a single casing falls to the grass and the filly slumps to the ground. Her siblings both cry out in unison as it happens. I can feel the pain in their voices.
And I love it. What? I never claimed to be a good guy.
Quickly twitching my hand to the left, I pull the trigger again. The recoil briefly snaps my hand back. At the same time, the red stallion is thrown backwards onto the grass.
Applejack is screaming at the top of her lungs now. I look at her, faking surprise.
"You- you... greedy, you!" I laugh as I push her away. "I give you one and you take two!"
If she had any fight left in her, it's long gone now. She curls up into a ball, cradling herself while sobs wrack her body.
"Grab her." I say before a few stallions pick her up and carry her off. She doesn't even fight back.
I turn to Razor Blades. "Okay, we're done here. Let's bounce."
He nods before fallowing me. I could've sworn I saw something flash across his face before he nodded. It was either regret... or disgust.
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Spike had never written so fast before in his life. His writing quill danced across the paper, creating a messy, scared script. The message wasn't very thorough, but he hoped it would get Ponyville the help it needed.
The knocking on his door was getting louder by the second.
There! I was done. He quickly rolled it, and lifted it in front of his mouth, preparing to send it.
Just then, the door was knocked off it's hinges by a group of three ponies. Quickly sending the scroll in a brilliant burst of green fire, he leaped under Twilight's bed.
As the stallions entered the library, he prayed to the sun and moon that the letter would reach it's destination.
RIP
So, Vaas, just executed Big Mac and Apple Bloom...
Well, can't say it's out of character for him...
For some reason, I couldn't stop laughing during this chapter. Do I have a problem?
Awesome chapter!
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But It's a good problem!
4469408 While a complete and utter psychopath, he's one helluva character, and this story is getting better and better, but goddamn, it's grim as all shit.
4469442 Oh, Vaas is my favorite video game villain bar none, and Far Cry 3 had far to little of him. Every time somebody links that Definition of Insanity video to me on one of my stories, I stop and watch it. I've played FC3 twice, and a big reason of that was Vaas.
Yeah, can't say that this is OOC for him.
well then... looks like Vaas has come to ponyville. This was exactly what I expected and you didn't fail to deliver. You stayed true to his character and showed just how dark he can be. Great job, keep goin and stay golden^^
.......... okay drama is characte4r interaction dude, not how many bodies yo put into the ground. let alone killing applebloom and wasting another bullet........ seriously dude that is the BIGGEST warnign sign of any fanfic, when you kill a lot of characters off simply for the shock of it. in other words any other killing you do will have no real impact because now its expected.
alslo applejack could have killed him in a split second. confirmed by the finale, earth ponies have superhuman strength. and the human body is frail. that collide would ahve sent him flying.
i have revisted farcry, and i have to say. its worse than i first thoguht. he kept his men in line with charisma yes, and he was cunning, but he did not make men follow him. they were paid to follow him, and did not try anything because he sowed fear in them.
in other words he could not convince ANY of these guys to follow him. especialyl because all of them could kill him without effort. a human is not superior if his weapons do not give him the advantage. he has a gun, so he has a temporary superiority. but as i just said, applejack has incredible strenght, and she would have likely injured vaas simply by running into him.
compelling characters does not mean they are powerful. vaas is compelling, but he is a small man who, while cunning, is mentally and physically hampered by a drug addiction, has half assed combat training, and is not exactly physically fit. be like me taking Tyrion from game of thrones and having him beat up celestia with a shield or something, and saying it is because tyrion is a compellign character.
4469456 One could classify him as insane, but he actually says some of the sanest shit in-game, the 'Definition of Insanity' scene being one of them.
4469408 except big macd would have killed in for doing it, wrapped him in his limbs and crushed the life out of him like a mouse under foot and with just as much speed..........
what can i say dude, the earth ponies have super strenght, and humans are extremely frail animals.
4469511 Don't forget Mac was being held back, and the second shot came before either of them (AJ and BM) could react properly.
4469821 he is easily more powerful than anyone who could have held him. and also applejack could ahve easily overpwoered vaas. i mean for god's sake, she can uproot trees! vass could probably barely lift over a hundred pounds.
4469785 .. and she would have crushed him into pulp.............
seriously she would respond with rage, killing vaas, then had an emotional breakdown for fuck's sake. she is not stupid enough to actualyl think she did it, and she has fucking super strength. as in if she was that close to him, he is dead...........
seriously i do not understande why all thes stories connected to humans a superior, biggest misconception of the centuryh i might add, intentionaly forget what the ponies are. despite being candy colored, they are creatures with human intelligence and superhuman aiblities. she could have EASILY overpowerd and killed him at that moment, and there is nothing he could do because he was dumb enough to get close to a being with super strength.
she can uproot trees with ease. that is well above the necessary force required to shatter human bones.
4469856 Big mac had already gotten the shit kicked out of him, and AJ was in a state of shock. How would you feel if you, even as forced as she was, just shot your little sister. And at the end who wins, the unarmed farmer or Vaas who has killed bigger with only a knife, not to mention that he has a gun now, too. They were both in a state of shock, and even if AJ wasn't completely, which would be complete bullshit in my opinion, she wouldn't have won anyway.
4469869 see my last comment 4469904
4469904 ............ even if you are wieldign a fucking lightsaber, if you were close enoguh to a gorrilla yo uwould be dead meat.
and as i said, earth ponies quite clearly have strength far beyond necessary to shatter human bones. in other words a she could have broken his arm without effort. when you arm is suddenly bending the other direction, you are fully distracted by pain. and i would wager a single punch of the hoof and his head would explode everywhere, especially if fueled by purest hate.
and no she obviousyl did not shoot them cause she cannot operate a gun. and it is sitll him somehow overpowering a being far more physically capable than he is to make her aim............. in other words, this whole scene would ahve played out with applejack realizing he was weaker, snapping his arm, and punching him in the face, likely breaking his neck.
if aj was a gorrila everyone would be thinking why didn't she just crushed him with him that close.
4469908 ......... he killed something bigger mostly be plot convenience and the guy not just grabbing him and crushing him........ and even then he is within arm's reach of her, rather than dancing around her.
as i said, fialing to make him army move, her realizing his wekaness, kills him.
that is like Beast from x-men could not deal with someone when he is in arm's reach and is only human dude, and he has no weapons.
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Do not bring your head canon into this story. This is not your story, so things will happen the way the author damn pleases.
Also, stop bringing your dumbass "ponys r superior!" arguments to stories that don't need them.
Absolutely every story I have read recently has you going on and on about your bullshit claims of ponies being superior when the story does not even imply that humans are superior.
In the words of Vaas: Shut the fuck up!
4469490 Oh hey, our 'favorite' critic is back. You know, I always picture you as Skip Bayless whenever I read your comments.
4469930 i am not bringing my Headcanon in. it is part of the show itself, of the lore, and all. Earht ponies have super strength. period. strength enoguh to plow entire fields at record time, knock down trees, and shatter stone. even pinkie pie can shatter stone, albeit she cannot do it at an odd angle. she worked on a rock farm after all, even if she is not as strong as maud.
the power to shatter stone is more than sufficient for breaking the human body.
now if i were saying that earth ponies would be bullet proof because of magically dense bodies, then i would be delving into head canon territory. but nope i am simply stating what the show and lore states; they are super strong. and one does not have magically fueled strength without it being beyond natural. be like saying a super hero has enhanced strength and he is only as strong as a horse or something.
so my point stands. she could have easily physically overpowered vaas.
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Super strength really depends what is classified as super.
Yes, breaking rocks is powerful, but anyone can break a rock if they find another rock to bang it against. So no, while stronger than average, not super.
Applejack was being held back by other ponies, so she would need to over power multiple ponies to get to Vaas, and he has a gun, and could kill her before she even got close.
Saying she could kill Vaas in that situation would HAVE to rely on head canon to explain how it would be possible. And also, you seem to be of the mind set that magic is a win all trump card with no weakness, that, is head canon.
But we get ahead of ourselves, the point is that no one wants to here why you think things should have happened differently in this story, the author will have things happen as he pleases, and no amount of head canon is going to change that.
4469994 see a problem, gonna state it.........
and i am pretty sure she would be more concerned about making sure her family is not shot than whatvaas would do...... and considering the action would lead to his arm shattered, he would not be able to fire the gun till he got over the shock of the injury....... and then we would have the possiblity of his men, realizing how weak he is, turning on him. a moment of weakness if a death sentence to a man like vaas. they are only following him because they belive he could lead them to victory........ if a farm mare snapped his arm like a wet twig they are going to be disillusioned. and that is NOT head canon, that is how he is controlling them; the illusion of him being strong.
and magic is not a win all situation, i will admit, but is a force that is incredibly powerful regardless of that and able to turn most circumstances to the advantage of who wields it. even a god can die if he is carless, and if magic is not used carelessly technology stands no chance. the potential to cause sabotage with magic is limited only to imagination and mystic prowess.
put simply, humans are not superior to ponies and their magic. they can fight them, but they are not going to be at the advantage in a conflict..... and no one actuall uses nuclear fucking weapons in a war. it just prevents you from marching forward as the land you nuked is gonna be irradiated.
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THIS IS NOT A DEBATE ABOUT THAT! DONT BRING IT INTO THE CONVERSATION!
First, Applejack was being restrained, she could not get to Vaas even if he did not have the gun.
Second, his men take orders from Vaas because he killed their original leader, showing he is stronger then them.
Third, his men are not under illusion, they know that Vaas can beat them on a one on one fight. You might want to reread some chapters.
Fourth, tech does not simply stop working cause a unicorn uses magic, and magic is not only limited by imagination and magical ability, in the show, we have seen definite limits on what it can do, turning it from super natural to natural, something we can study and understand, and defend against. So yes, the idea that magic is inherently better than tech is head canon.
Fifth, since we don't see a substantial amount of modern day tech in the show, comparing tech and magic will always be head canon. So please, stop trying to call your head canon fact, because every pony fan fiction ever made that has modern tech in it is head canon.
This already made me laugh!
Hahaha, fantastic!
I am satisfied with the progress, especially how the background pony has been breaken!
However, I am a little affraid of the possibility of Celery...Celestia arrives, ruining the fun. So, make that gun count!
-Zeph
4469962 You, my friend, don't fully grasp the situation. I want you to think back to all of MLP FIM and tell me how many casualties there are. No one in season one, two, or three. The closest thing to on screen death was Tirek and Tartarus is an actual place so saying they sent him to Tartarus is the same as he's in jail. Do you know how people react to death? Not well. Its an acquired taste for you non psychopaths.
How do ponies react to death and murder? They go into a panic over a pony that’s not a pony so mass murder is not going to end well for their psyche. All three of the apples were beat. Applejack, who is supposed to be a living lie detector, believed a lie. And while in shock, lost her sister. Survivors guilt plus failing at protecting her sister pretty much shattered her. Her brother's death didn't help.
All the super strength in the world won't help you when you've rejected reality. Besides Vaas doesn't need to be stronger, he just has to turn the knife stuck in her weak spot.
4470061 amp up the potential for violence n the story, and all the events before must become more perilous. makes no sense for just THIS guy to suddenly bne the most violent thing ever. which he really isn't, just cazy.
and that only applies if the guy who is resposnbile for their deaths is not within arm's reach and made of easily breakable materials.
4470032 which would make seeing his arm snap like a twig all the more eye poening.......
and that is not true to beign with. two earth ponies in close, and he is dead. a unicorn stealing his guns, dead. a pegasi shooting lightning at him, dead.
his power is a completel illusion. his power is making people think he is powerful, when in reality all it would take is a unicorn and an earth pony and he would be mush.
techn has no method of countering magic. so how could you even begin to think tech would give an advantage?
.......... also to bring up one other thing, these beings shatter rock without aid of other rocks or tools......... a horse cannot break rock with its hooves, but can kill a human with a kick. so what happens when an earth pony, clearly stronger than either, hits a human?
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You my friend, are in denial.
I have made every point I can make to convince you that you are wrong. But instead you just insist on the idea that what you think is fact when it is not.
You are beyond help my friend. This debate is over.
4470095 well it does not change the FACT that her running into vaas would have injured him and knocked him down, that shining armor would have casted a shield around ponyville the moment he got there, and that vaas being turned to stone is contrived bullshit to begin with when a isngle magic beam would have burst him into mush......... and that everyone is pretending ponies are peaceful without understanding of violence, which they CLEARLY are not. they are just not murderous, but killing their loved ones would probably motivate them to destroy I would think.
vaas should have died three times already. first against he minotaur, who was at a completely physical advantage over a drug addicted, half trained human. second when he killed hsining armor, he would have been nothing but ashes. and now being within arm's reach and threatening the family of Applejack, who is easily oneo f the most powerful earth ponies in equestrian.
not to mention the psychotic EASE he would die against celestia or luna.
seems like you are in denial. as I said before, this story only has this many votes because of a fairly good rendition of vaas character. however this sotry completely exaggerate vaas legitimate abilities to ridiculous levels. he is not good enough shot to hit someone as fast as rainbow dash, he is not strong enough to overpower any supernaturally strong being, and he is not capable of motivation enough to command this many superior beings. ans superior they are, as any of them could kill him before he could react if they had the nmotivation.
you are in denial because it has not clicked in your head that maybe, just maybe, vaas would not be able to survive in eequestria.
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JESUS FUCKING CHRIST! THANK YOU!
4470115 I have to agree with D, your in denial. The to kill and can kill decide many battles. No one said they aren’t violent, but they don't have the drive ti kill. Automatically giving Vaas an advantage. Also, Do you understand the power a gun has? A single bullet can pierce flesh, bone, and even concrete.Since you are so admant about earth pony super strength, how about a comparison. Applejack's kick could break a stallions bones. A bullet can shatter a stallions bones. They're pretty much smaller, more precise applejack kicks. With so much power in a small spot, it has a high chance of breaking down shining armor's shield unless specifically made to with hold a bullet. Tech beats magic.
Large amounts of death to those not used to it or trained for it can cause insanity. Plus the well known herd mentality would make them scared panicky automatically. Add her family in danger, surrounded by stallions she knows she can't beat and you've got an obedient applejack. Once again, you don't need to be the strongest or the best. You just need to be able to take advantage of the situation. The tortoise still beat the hare in a race he could not win.
XD Awesome chapter, once again! Keep the good work up, I can't wait for another. Stories like this really make me wish that FC 3 would have a campaign where you'd fight for Vaas :*(
Oh by Celestia, I love this! First Twily's brother, and now Applejack's siblings.... it's BEAUTIFUL!
Equestria is basically doomed already, they just don't know it.
4470115 I think i need to add another factor. You keep bringing up strength, but not skill and mobility. In a one on one, Vaas would win against AJ, even with just his bare hands. You know why? Vaas is bipedal. Ever wondered why actual horses are ridden by us? We conquered them by getting on their backs. All Vaas would have to do is swing onto her back and just do a chokehold. AJ wouldn't be able to reach due to her being quadrupedal. If she jumped onto her side, or fell, it wouldn't do much. With an actual horse, it'd shatter/break your leg due to weight. Ponies are smaller and lighter, so the mos he'd get from that would be a bruised leg. Then AJ would be stuck. If you need proof, get yourself a medium sized dog and hug it from behind while it's on it's side. When it gets bored and tries to get out, it won't because it will need to back up and then get up, but if your grip is tight enough, it won't be able to do shit. No matter how hard the dog will try, it will not be able to get up. The only way would be if you gave up. Just for test reasons, i did this with my own dog and was to hold him for about an hour, only let go because i got bored. For Vaas, it'd probably be longer considering i'm a weak gamer dude who can barely lift 50 pounds. So with that rant out of the way, let us see how you counter this. Do some tests by yourself. See the results. And, to add on to this, take note of the mental aspects of this. AJ just saw some random ponies get slaughtered and then hid, still probably able to hear the screams of others. She's in panic mode. When she gets back to her house, she sees her family held by OTHER PONIES. So that takes out that question of why didn't she fight Vaas then, as other ponies were already there, which in your "Ponies are Superior" mentality, should fit right in. When she was hit in the muzzle by Vaas, that's head trauma right there. That will take ANYTHING out of a fight. She wakes up at the base, weakened and still in mental shock, Vaas goes about with the taunting and such. She's also being held by other ponies, thus can't move. When Vaas shoos AB, she goes even deeper into shock and then the follow up K.O shock is Big Mac getting shot. Now she's probably more functional than a vegitable, and that's saying something. Immidiately afterwards she's carried off, before she can temporarily get over the shock, thus unable to retaliate. Now, in my long ass rant i might of missed a few points due to my bad memory, and might have made a spelling error or two, seeing as vegitable is underlined with red and i can't be bothered to look up the correct spelling,but i hope you will take into account things other than just strength. Also, a gorilla vs a lightsaber, no matter the distance, lightsaber will win. It cuts through space-age metal alloys, i.e. the doors on most things, with ease. A gorilla will probably be intimidated by the light and sound alone, not to mention the probable heat that comes off of it. Well, that ends my rant disguised as a comment. Have a nice day.
TL;DR - Bipedal beats Quadruped in mobility every time.
4470391 so bascally you cannot tell the difference between drama and shoving people into the tomb in hopes it affects someone?
4470404 rubs eyes.............. no a gorilla will have the advantage if you geet too close. cause one that gorilla hurts tyou, you will focus on the pain. long before you can hold back the pain it is already beating you to death. and it would take like an instant for applejack to cause crippling damage to a human. better comparison, alligator. one moment find, neck moment it crushed your arm.
.....,power is not created equal in equestrian. you are telling me a few random ponies could match applejack's strength. just as twilight is to unicorns and rainbow dash is to pegasi, applejack is much stronger than other earth ponies. the likelihood of one of the ponies holding her being an earth pony capable of similar strength to her is the likelihood twilight encounters a unicorn able to match her power; very unlikely. and we are talking about a moment of extreme rage here.
basically more than likely, she would THROW one of the ponies binding her AT vaas. and if not that strong, let us be fair and say she just punches vaas before getting grabbed again, the fool is that close. THAT would probably be a fatal injury itself. a rage fueled hit by a being of supernatural strength to a mere human, as quick as thought itself, and from a position where he obviously could not turn the gun on her in time. more than likely it would be like getting hit by a raging pull condensed into a fist sized hoof.
the problem here is that Twilight might react in horror, without a doubt, but Applejack has already experienced loss. meaning she has felt it before. and this time around she has something to blame and hurt within inches of her.
Applejack would react with rage dude. and all it would take in a single moment to fatally wound a human. and a single moment she would have, where vaas is mocking her, stupidly, stupidly drawing the attention of a mourning creature with the strength of both the earth and of grief to him. one instant, and he dies.
I repeat, the loss of her parents would create just enough numbness to the loss that she could focus her attention to vaas, and the hatred that would come after. and this is not head canon, it is not beyond likelihood she could wrench away from her captor long enough and managed to swing and connect to vaas, before he can react, and thus hit him with a blow nothing short of destructure. if maud pie can shatter a boulder simply motivated by protective impulses, what could applejack do if motivated by hatred?
this is a world where abstract concepts can manifest as actual forces. if friendship is magic, then why wouldn't hatred be power?
and about backs............. that is because horses as helpless on their backs and are not as flexible as cats. let along have the foreleg dexterity to grab a hold of an assailant.........
also there is a godo reason why this story cannot last another chapter I wager. the regal sistes teleporting into ponyville and massacring a whole fuckload of rogues at once, shouting into the air "Bring us your leader, and you will be spared! REfuse, and you will all die for your barbarism.!!"
then everyone turns on vaas cause they realized "Oh shit we just pissed off demigods. If we want a chance at living we gotta turn in or kill the retard we followed here."
........... Celestia has fought wars during that thousand years. Meaning she has probably been forced to kill al LOT of people. more people than vaas ever has. Meaning while she would prefer not to, she has the capacity and will to kill. and she just so happens to be a living directed energy weapon.
4470484 Ok, when i post this i have only read about 3/4th of your comment. It has NOT been confirmed if AJ's parents are dead or not. Yes, it has been hinted at if you look at it a certain way, but it has NOT been confirmed. Even then, there's a difference between it happening by natural causes, when you're sleeping or something, to a loud BANG, instant bloody death, right in front of you. That's the shock. If you lost your parents, even then you are in shock for a bit and go into denial for even longer. Heck, even if it's some random dude that got shot in front of you, you'd STILL go into a major shock. So, no, the numbness from loss of parents due to natural causes will NOT prepare you for someones quick and bloody demise right in front of you, along with a loud bang. Heck, the gunshot sound itself could incapacitate her. When a gun goes of near a human, it is extremely loud and can sometimes cause temporary loss of hearing. Ponies/horses have triple the natural hearing to us. So to us, it's a loud bang. To ponies, it might as well be the equivilent of a nuclear bomb going off near her, without the radiation and the fire but just the sound. You neglect to see all aspects. Yes, if Vaas stayed still long enough for AJ to properly wind up her attack and successfully hit, Vaas would crumple like tissue paper. But the situation wouldn't allow her to focus or really react to anything, not to mention limited space. Also, multiple unicorns CAN outmatch Twilight on magical power alone. For instance, if we go into headcannon(Don't actually know if it's confirmed or not) before Celestia ruled, regular old unicorns raised and lowered the moon. Thus, multiple unicorns that combine their power CAN outmatch Luna and Celestia themselves. Just like earth ponies and strength. Heck, even with us humans and IN REAL LIFE, it doesn't matter if you're the strongest dude on the planet, with enough people you can pin them down. Also, to go on your no pony is stronger than AJ, what about Big Mac? Big Mac is proven to be stronger than AJ.
Now, i will read the rest of your comment.
So thus all Vaas would have to do is get AJ on her side and bam, she's helpless. Also,
"Celestia has fought wars during that thousand years." This is pure head-cannon without any basis for fact. Also, Ponies themselves have been idiotic. None of them run from Celestia. Heck, Chrysalis beat Sun Butt with a single magic blast, Discord can pretty much say "Fuck You Sun-Arse" in Celly's face, and she'd be helpless to do anything. So, no, they wouldn't run or turn on Vaas. They would sit there like dumbasses for awhile, retreat and come back with a bigger force. Celestia and Luna are NOT the most powerful beings. Also, since you like to dig into headcannon, i'll give you this. They don't even move the sun/moon. All they did was claim they did, or they rotate the planet. But since Season four, the first one is null and void. Also, do try to bring up better, and/or more numerous facts. Cause without the fluff, all you've been saying each and every time is that AJ is stronger physically. You don't consider the mental isues, along with mobility, strategy, intelligence and better weapons. As you've stated before, Vaas is only half trained, but half trained is better than no training whatsoever. For the final nail in the coffin, AJ has not once been in an actual combat situation. She's ran, bucked a couple of changlings, and ran some more. Vaas lead a HUGE pirate operation, probably killed thousands of people that might have been better armed and armored, and has the advantage of insanity. For some reason sane people think that's a disadvantage.. Well, WAKE UP CALL! IT'S FUCKING NOT! It leads to being extremely unpredictable and able to shrug off pain better than a seasoned war vet from WW2. Heck, some insane people ENJOY pain, and love it to, sometimes literally, to death. Ever seen someone laugh while being stabbed? Because in their mind, their being tickled or they simply deny the pain access. When I splintered my ankle from a fall, i was able to hold off going to the hospital for two and a half weeks, simply because i told myself it'd go away. And for times, it really, to my mind, did. The pain no longer exsisted. The only reason I went there was because some bone was actually pushing against the skin, making a noticable bump. So do not discredit the insanity.
TL;DR - Insanity is the best painkiller, AND MAKE MORE REASONS TO YOUR ARGUMENT DAMNIT!
4470643 insanity is a disadvantage for the large part. because of his insanity, he let himself into a situation that got his ass stabbed. insanity means a lack of calirty and rationality.
if she got knocked on her side she would just jump back up dude. if you ahven't nboticed ponies are infinitely more agile than horses. and still she is beyond natural strength to BEGIN with.
and yes they would fucking panic. Because two beings, two singular beings, just massacred dozens of their men and theri only chance of surviving is them giving him over...... Cause that is what they would SAY to them. a delcaration, an ultimatum.
......... luna and celestia can match discord. perhaps once upon a time that would nto be true, but as of now it is clear. and one more alicorn on their side means they can defeat him.
chrysalis is simply a pathetic, ignorant example. She admitted it herself dude; she only got thta strong by feeding on the love sick shining armor, and love gives her sustenance and fuels her magic. and it seems likely as this is power up rules, she burned through a lot of the extra energy to win. meaning she was not nearly as powerful afterwards.
it is true celestia and luna are not the most powerful beings, but those who can legitimately defeat them are extremely rare. and normal ponies are not amongst them. together they are far too powerful to deal with. vaas gun to them is as pitiful as throwing rocks at a brick wall, as while one sister can shield the other can attack. and the ponies would turn out of fear. when you control by fear, you only stay in control so long as something more terrifying does not come around. the wrath of Celestia likely has weight in equestria, as very few beigns are bold enough to challenge her.
also saying ponies are stpuid is such a.......... paethetic reasoning.
also no, it is NOT headcanon. idw comics, we show an incident some years before where she had to protect canterlot from an enemy invasion. and in the show itself, it is stated that she built up her miltiary power after luna was banished to the moon. one does not build up military unless military threats appear.
no... not Apple Bloom (she's not my favourite, but she's still cute )
4470643 ...... also vaas is incomparable to eldritch chaos beasts and vampiric insect like temptresses. he is only a human and nothing else. no powers, only cunning, and cunning worth nothing if just one of his men decide they could take him and punch him.
4470691 Actually, that was drugs that lead to a lack of clarity, not the insanity. Also, Celestia and Luna wouldn't start off killing, they'd incapacitate but NOT kill. Also, no, Celly and Lulu can not match Discord. The first time they faced him, they had the elements of harmony. It was the Elements that turned Discord into stone, NOT Celestia and Luna. So, there goes that arguement. And, from a earlier statement of yours, Equestria is a world of abstract concepts are power. So thus, Chrysalis feeds on power in that respect. Shining Armor had enough love to overpower Celestia. And, due to conservation or whatever, can't remember the name, having gone without sleep for two days so far, she cannot create something from nothing. Thus, right there, Shining Armor himself is more powerful than Celestia. So far, from my point of view, my arguement holds more weight and is based around logic. So, let's see what else i can shoot down.
" luna and celestia can match discord"
"it is true celestia and luna are not the most powerful beings" Those two right there counter-act each other.
Celestia and Luna have flesh and bone, and are simply timeless. So thus, a gunshot CAN wound them just as much as any other firearm. Also, just saw you replied a second time, gonna check that when i'm done typing. And ok, the military thing you might have actual basis on, as i have not read the comics, only the show. But i didn't hear anything about her building up a military in the show. If it did, tell me what episode and i will re-watch it. Anyways, time to see what the new notification is.
4470750 Actually, cunning can win entire wars. So cunning and intelligence do play a major factor. Besides, that and tool-making is what got our firm spot in the evolutionary high and top of the food chain.
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Total and utter head canon....credibility destroyed.
4470750 Sorry for a three-in-a-row reply chain, but i thought it'd be important to notify you that this discussion got quite boring and considering my sleep deprivation, i think i'll take a nap. So, on that note, keep thinking of better and more numerous counter-arguements. Do some research and base some of it in reality/physics. And now, I say to you, good night/day and I issue a temporary cease fire on this discussion.
4470780 the show and comics seem to disagree. more than likely she built up her army for a war, as said in testing test 123. and in the comics it shows an incident decades before with an ivnasion from an unknown enemy.
You... Killed... ... and... ... You cold-hearted monster... You god damn addicting-to-read monster... I have to see how this pans out...
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