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Ecthelion_Yuda


Well, I'm 17 (for now) and I absolutely love writing. Writing is one of my favourite pastimes so I'm glad that I came here!

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Twilight is still new at this whole Princess thing. So when she is summoned to the Crystal Empire to sit a Royal Court for the first time, she is understandably nervous. Things seem to be going well, that is, until a philosophy student from the University of Canterlot strolls in. What follows is a dialogue between the new Princess of Equestria and the young political philosopher, Clear Thought.

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Umm... Wait, didn't Twilight just prove Clear Thoughts point by doing that?

Also, oblig

Dat troll ending :trollestia:

Good thing this is complete fiction. Because if it tried to be logic in any way, I would go with...

She herself had done her best to become a master of magic because that was what she had been told she was good at.

0:40
FAIL.

And education of such quality is none existent. At least never presented. Just saying.

But that is only on that.

Other than this being just for shits and giggles, I found it alright. Not fascinating, not comedic in its 'complexity', but just fine. Which is an outcry of quality compares to the crap received each and every day
here. You got my like.:twilightsmile:

The rulers rule, the soldiers guard and the artisans work.

It should be pointed out this is not a bad summation of the system of government proposed by Plato's Republic.

For a more in depth analysis see: http://www.overthinkingit.com/2012/11/08/my-little-pony-plato/

This both offends and intrigues me.... write more of it

okay... (sigh):ajbemused: so a couple things....

clear thought is a dick. he starts off all dramatic and stuff but only has two complaints which aren't really connected in any way to his premise.

his first premise is that the class structure of the society is too rigid. then he asserts, without evidence, that this is somehow connected to cutie marks in and of themselves; that by some unseen mechanism ponies are gifted cutie marks by the government, somehow? (please correct me if i'm wrong in this particular universe but otherwise i shall continue as follows) this makes no sense as we have no real evidence that the marks are anything other than a perfectly natural, if indeed supernatural/mystical, part of pony biology. this has absolutely no connection to the phenomenon of social class. take for instance rarity and her fashion business; the element of generosity herself is a seamstress born to a couple of country hicks who has risen to the top of the fashion world, yet still operates at a lower social tier than simple manufacturers like fancy pants, or models like fluer de lis. there is a clear divide between nobles and commoners here but being within the fashion industry due to ones cutie mark clearly isn't it. hell! blueblood has a compass on his butt indicating him as some kind of cartographer, how does being good at maps mark one for entrance to the aristocracy? the only suitable explanation is that social standing such as this is determined by bloodlines or being born into it, like a normal nobility system. meaning the government doesn't have any say in who is or isn't noble (under most normal circumstances excluding criminal punishment or something) even if they did control the cutie mark situation, or at least not by that mechanism. while he is fair in assessing that "the nobility" is unfair and should be re-evaluated, that is not what he argues here. instead he criticizes a mechanism of their biology that has no real relation to anything, nor does it actually have anything to do with alicorns, which appear to ascend via an as of yet not understood but clear totally separate system to both cutie marks and nobility. 'ascendancy vs democracy' and 'the noble class' are both interesting issues but are markedly separate to the rest of this discussion so i shall leave that to better minds to ponder for now. ultimately there are good arguments to be made about the unfairness of the nobility class, but none of them are on display here, if any are truly present at all.:facehoof:

his second argument is... weirder. its functionally just a random non-sequitur character assassination attempt on princess celestia. i struggle to counter any point here as he, again, presents no evidence to support his baseless assumption! there is no reason presented why celestia wouldn't plan in the event of economic problems, standard military assault, or any other numerous issues, that any leader regardless of origin or nature would eventually have to contend with! not to mention they have freaken cybertron on their side! are we really going to assume that bleeping optimis prime would refuse humanitarian aid in the event of an emergency?!?:flutterrage:
this is ridiculous. he assumes that the rulers would have no back up plan in the event of an emergency, that celestia in particular is some kind of chrysalis clone, and that this would all somehow push her into a war for resources. outside of the fallout equestria timeline he has no argument.
all this somehow coming from the assumption that a deficiency in the amount of skilled laborers in any particular field would cause this collapse.
there's enough ifs and maybes in that house of cards that the wind isn't even needed to topple it.
sure it would be a problem if there weren't enough say farmer ponies one decade and this caused a huge food shortage, but his kind of problem would require a far deeper understanding of the mechanics of the phenomenon of cutie marks than this "philosopher" clearly possesses.

im beginning to think that thought balloon on his rear was intending him for the field of graphic novella and not philosophy cus he is really bad at this.:facehoof::facehoof:

do i sound like i've taken a philosophy 101 course over the summer, cus i feel it might be showing a bit strong. sorry. to my knowledge we only covered a couple of the socratic dialogues and not the republic itself so excuse me is im missing something here.
i find myself offended when logic is bad.:twilightangry2:

otherwise nice idea for a story, even if the comedic timing is a bit stiff, i appreciate the effort to explore real philosophy in this medium. thank you good sir! :pinkiehappy::yay:

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