Semantics
The Princesses kindly began "accompanying" me from the jail cells shortly after my Oath (as well as the returning of my Lightsabers). They knew the weight of my words and how I was honor bound to follow them. They were not a widely practiced form of swearing oaths, but the expectation of a Jedi to follow through on their promises were rooted in Oaths. Toward the beginning of the Force Wars, a little known conflict at the origin of the Jedi Order, The followers of the Light believed that all promises that a Jedi should make would be Binding.
Needless to say that I found that nugget in the depths of the Jedi Holocron.
But I digress. And there is some Princess trying to talk to me.
"You want land in the Everfree for what again?"
"An academy of sorts. Away from prying eyes."
"And what is it that you will be teaching at this academy?"
"Protection"
Celestia's eyes bore into mine as we walked along the long passageways of her impressive, if frou-frou, castle.
"Teach them how to kill?"
"Yes" I said deliberately "To protect the many, I must sacrifice the few."
"So you will create monsters?" I regarded Celestia.
"Come now Celestia, we both know Light and Dark are extensions of each other." I gave an irreverent grin. "You above all should know that."
"Sister that is enough." Luna admonished, and speaking up for the first time. "Warden, we cannot tear families apart. That is an order."
Loop-hole loop-hole I need a loop-hole... what about, "Orphans?"
"Those are quite rare. Most ponies would never give up their child, and there are many same sex couples vying for what few orphans there are." Luna countered.
"But you're saying they are there?"
"Yes I suppose--"
"Huzzah!" Luna skipped a step in her canter. "That is some! And some is better than none!" I turned down my drollery a bit. "What about volunteers?"
"You think ponies will volunteer to learn how to kill?" Celestia must really not like the idea.
"I think they will volunteer to learn how to protect. To sacrifice themselves for the greatest good. There is no greater love than this: to lay down one's life for another."
Celestia stopped. The Abacus, as quaint as they are, flitted away in her head.
"What will you do with all of these apprentices?"
"They will be the second edge of the sword. The rod that keeps the child from spoiling. They will serve Harmony." I put an emphasis on Harmony. "They will not serve the Royal Sisters or Equestria, but will do what is necessary to maintain Harmony, at the price of their own.This mantle of responsibility will not be worn lightly." I give my most crooked and conniving of smiles. "Besides, removing me or my followers would be a walk in the park for you."
What went on in that head of Celestia was a complete mystery to me. I may as well have tried to get a Jedi Master to tell me exactly what a vision meant. I know this. I've tried It involved a-
"Very well, you can have the castle of the Royal Pony Sisters in the Everfree. There should be little trouble there from the local wildlife. You may only have apprentices that we have selected and approved."
This is as good as I'm gonna get. "I'll accept, However, Isn't that castle a ruin? Twilight said something about that place being a ruin."
Celestia stopped and regarded me. "It'll buff out." She said simply and trotted away.
Was that...Humor?
I spent the rest of the day speaking with the guards at the barracks. More specifically, the guards I had fought. They were more than a little peeved about our little tussle. However, dear sweet Celestia found it important for me to mend whatever bridges I had burned.
They only seemed to simmer down after a promise of a rematch. And poker. By the Force am I bad at poker. A few even took an interest in what I was going to be doing in the Everfree. They went as far as to suggest that a "contingent" of guards be sent to "overlook" the academy. You know. For "security reasons".
And they will probably get away with it too, knowing Celestia.
I ended my day in a much better room than I expected. It seems, however, the length of their beds are far too small. I think it was on purpose too... In any case, Luna promised me that I would be able to take a representative from Celestia's school and that the applicants would be ready in the morning. Something about them being the best in unicorn foals that the country had to offer.
I had made myself quite quite clear to Luna that they be applicants. Not that couldn't do with an older Youngling, but I preferred a student that didn't have some misguided opinion that the Force was Magic. I mean, that's just silly.
I woke up when the sun rose. I could almost swear that the sun was a tad bit brighter on my eyes than my chest. One of the mysteries of the Force no doubt. But I digress.
The important part of the day was going to good ol' Sunny Flank's School for Gifted Unicorns.
When I arrived, there were various Younglings worthy of any academy.
There were 5 in all, with another blonde Youngling nervously sulking in the corner, hidden from view. I was curious about the Lost Youngling, but Celestia made no moves to bar her entry.
The Younglings stood nervous, not only was their sovereign and teacher in attendance, but so was some alien. A dashing and rouge-ish alien.
"Each of these 5 colts fit the requirements and have volunteered." Each colt in turn puffed their chests out with a smug look to match. "They have all just completed their application test per your request."
I gave a hearty smile, "And what specimens they are! Truly this is a school for the most gifted of unicorns!" I plopped down in front of the students. "My name is Warden, I have a simple test for you all. One which you are all more than capable of."
I pulled my Lightsaber out and flipped the little known safety switch so that none of the Younglings would get hurt.
"The test is simple: I want each of you to lift this Doo-Hickey." They all giggled at the name.
Their faces changed from one of amusement to confusion. They all had just taken a comprehensive arcane examination where their skills and abilities were taken to their limits. Now they were asked to lift a simple cylinder. And their faces were priceless.
"You on the right, please go first."
Each one of the Younglings, with a wary expression, levitated the Saber in their differently colored telekinetic grasps.
"So what will it be? Will you need some time to consider?"
I cocked my head. "What do you mean? There is still another Youngling in the room." I pointed to a filly by the door.
"I-I-I'm sorry, I g-got l-lost."
I couldn't help but give a warm chuckle worthy of any old man in a red suit and a white beard. "I think you are less lost than you think." I patted the ground. "Come, at least give it a shot. You have nothing to lose and nothing to prove."
The Youngling came up to the Lightsaber and scrunched her face, lifting her head as if to try and make her horn longer. She grunted with effort and ground her teeth. but to no avail.
She hung her head in defeat.
"Come, Child there is no time limit. Lift the object, please." I can see why Jedi masters like to be so mysterious. Being cryptic is so much fun!
She looked at me square in the eye. "Lift it?" She had a gleam in her eyes. A most devious gleam. I nodded.
The filly's eyes lingered on mine, then the Saber, and back to me.
With slow rumination, she bent down and put the Saber in her mouth and lifted her head.
She sat there a second before cocking her head. And I'll be damned if that was the cutest thing I have ever seen.
It was also the most absurd thing I have come across in the Galaxy.
I started laughing. I couldn't control it. That was the most simple and glorious thing in the entire Galaxy. I LOVED it! It was perfect!
The Younglings thought less so.
"Can you believe it? She doesn't even know magic!"
"And she applied to this school?"
"This is a school for gifted unicorns!"
"Enough!" I put a little Force into that one. For the kick. "Tell me Youngling, what is your name?"
"D-Dinky Doo, sir."
"Well Ms. Doo, why did you lift the object with your mouth?"
"I-I can't do magic, sir."
"And why should you? Isn't the point of this school to teach magic?" The other Younglings shrank back a bit and Celestia, who at some point slunk back into the background before the test, gave a soft smile.
"So tell me, what is the point of attending magic lessons if you already know magic?" Dinky had the rumor of a smile dance across her face. "Let me ask you again: why did you use your mouth to lift the object?"
"You never said how to lift it, sir."
"Clever Girl. are your parents around? I have an important question for them."
Author's Note:
To be quite honest, this was the one scene I imagined when I made this fic. I was worried for a while that I couldn't come back from the last chapter and how this all happened. I know it feels a bit rushed, but in my opinion, Celestia just wants them out.
In any case, please comment. I do read them all and try to respond to all of them. If you find an issue, point it out to me and I'll probably fix it. Or argue as to why I'm right. Cuz the author is always right. Nor is he ever late. My chapters arrive precicley when I mean to.
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Im going to say this is a good chapter if it does feel a bit rushed though I very much liked the part with Dinky.
I am... somewhat out of touch with my AU lore and terminology. Is an Unorthodox Jedi the same thing as a Gray Jedi? (Fast and loose with the rules, but still Light Side?)
THIS IS GOOD,
I WANT MOAR
Tis glorious. Another very kindly.
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If I remember reading Wookiepedia correctly, not exactly. Seeing as a Gray Jedi, I guess you could say "dabbles" in teachings of both the Light Side and the Dark Side.
If anyone else has a better explanation, they're welcome to post. I will admit, I've rarely kept in touch with the Star Wars expanded universe.
I had to wonder why Celestia was objecting to this Jedi teaching ponies when the main complaint was he would be teaching them to be warriors who would kill if need be. Is that not what her Royal Guard are taught to do?
Then I remembered, Jedi ONLY train children. That has to be kicking 'Tia's "mommy" instincts in the guts!
That's two of the three races as students. Will there be a third?
Ch 1
The ony other
Ch 2
Perhaps is is merely more subtle.
Ch 3
Twilight had sent off a letter to her Princess via her small dragon "companion" as she put it. not sister, lover, nor mother.
Ch 5
To some, The dreams are a direct reflection of the state of whatever part of the galaxy they currently are in.
Maybe the Dreams will fit better
Ch 7
I've tried It involved a-
asides from that, the story is good. keep writing!
Enjoying the story, but you need a pre-reader/editor. You've got capitalization and punctuation errors here and there (not referring to words capitalized because Force™), as well as some missing words and awkward sentences. Nothing egregious enough to make me want to stop reading, though.
I have no complaints. I for my part liked it!
Hope it won't take as long, before the next chapter rears it's head.
forget the chapter
Tin? Methinks you mean thin.
You have gained another fan! Keep on rolling and I love the Gray Knights (thats how i know them)!
Gentle breeze guide you, a warm smile to keep you.
P.S. Silver L.S. beats Purple L.S.
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And thus Grand Master Dinky Doo was born!
You cant be a Jedi AND a Wizard you have to pick one! (Though you could argue that they're the same thing according to Han Solo)
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A Grey Jedi is a very loose term that means anyone who is/was a Jedi that does not strictly follow traditional Jedi doctrine.
For the purposed of my story, the title of Grey Jedi was self imposed. As I will elaborate in later chapters, Warden subscribes to the unifying theory of the force. In Starwars cannon, it is the Light Side of the Force that is the most potent by being one with the Force.
I think that is hogwash.
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.......That.....is a much better explanation for why Celestia disapproves of the training than whatever the hell I was doing...
Your idea MAY be put in when I get around to editing things...
I was going to pull some crap like the military using billy clubs instead of weapons. But from a political standpoint (and my next little introduction next chapter), that makes no sense....
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...and the title "Unorthodox?" The whole point of my post was to figure out the meaning of the term "Unorthodox Jedi" in terms of Lore, before setting down to read this fic.
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I seriously do. I haven't done bad for myself considering I don't use a word processor. I also need someone to tell me to stop being retarded when my plot eventually jumps the shark.
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Added to my list of fixes!
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Eh. Unorthodox Jedi means just that. The abilities he uses and the way in which he uses them are unusual. less of a stress on known and common Jedi powers and more of crude and home brewed fighting style. I wrote that synopsis a week before finishing the first chapter lol
Thank you!
I was Kinda "thinking out loud", wondering if that was the reason she was so against that. 
...The ways of the Force are mysterious... 
I'm glad it turns out I helped the story.
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*Rereads preface, notes the lack of a capital letter*
...ah. Sorry, I thought you meant it as an official term, rather than just as a description. My bad.
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*Phew!* I wasn't sure if I didn't capitalize it. Thanks for checking for me!
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Ehh. I wanna reference Katarn.
2 oddities:
When he requests permission to set up an academy he states they would not be loyal to the sisters but rather to balance. Wouldn't that mean they must release Discord to create balance between the forces of harmony and chaos?
He seems slightly dark in his death bringing, if anything being a Grey Jedi I would think would make him more practical rather than sorta dark in his views of life and the force but runs by the Jedi way of operating.
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I had thought about that. There is a loop hole in it that the sisters also represent the opposite. A kinda cop-out if you will. Also, it was never said that the Thesis and Antithesis HAD to both exist. Lies imprisoned Truth. In fact, it is natural that one of them be locked away if they both are in constant conflict.
2)
Grey Jedi is a loose term. Warden has done some shit. And seen a lot more. He has guilt and wishes to be seen as more good than bad, but he WAS a sith for a while.
Awesome, update!!!
Now that's out of my system, if I may be so presumptuous as to make a suggestion? Dinkie (whom I love the inclusion of!) should be a saber master! If her magic/ force isn't that strong, it would make sense. Plus, what can I say? I've got a soft spot for Grey-Jedi that happen to specialize in saber fighting, especially single saber! You know, Mace Windu wasn't the only single-saber-master...
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He couldn't be Sith. "Sith" is a name of ancient race, they realised that force taken from rage make thrm stronger, and used this. that race enslaved and rulled big part of galaxy for long time. Then they were pushed back and extinct. The word "jedi" mean simply way of living involving Force™, and people who use it, this name have nothig to beeing good or bad. Some jedi knights who found the Sith's holocrons, and decided to be stronger, became "dark jedi". Masters of their order called themselves "Sith's Lords" to honor them and they way of traing their acolytes, "Sith academy" or "Sith's training". Many people do this mistake, calling dark jedi "the Sith".
I know this from many books, mostly from "darth Bane" series, and many encyclopedies wookiepedia too.
And there is also "unifying force" (I don't remember well this name, so it can be wrong) it is mostly learned by gray jedi. Especialy those who was touched by dark, but was able to win with it. they use dark force too, but with caution, not to by turned to dark jedi. If I remember well, Kyle Katarn was good example.
And this is great fanfic. I just found it, and I was very sad when I saw that making a chapter takes you around two months, but it is worth to wait.
Ps. sorry for any errors, I am not from English speaking country, and additionaly I am writing this by phone.
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You are certainly welcome to make a suggestion! I dont rightly know what roles I will fill with which apprentice. I have origionally invisioned Dinky as a consular. I wanted to imply she was magically gifted (hence the application to the School for Gifted Unicorns, but just doesnt have the knowledge due to Derpy as a mother [implying Derpy doesn't know magic, not that she is an incapable mother {which I will show how good a mother she is next chapter}])
I understand the desire for a Sabermaster. There will be one. As well the opposite. I found it on wookieepedia once. Ill find it again
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I wasn't implying he was True Sith. I meant to imply he was under the tutelage of dark Jedi for a while. I am aware that the True Sith became extinct (pretty sure) and that their progeny (the Messasi Warriors) also have also become extinct(again, pretty sure). The dark Jedi like to call themselves Sith. I think it is so they distance themselves from Jedi.
The Unifying Force is the technical term for what Warden believes. There is no Light Side, there is no Dark Side, only trends in one direction or another. "All things in moderation" is an apt way to describe his view. Like in the fight with the Royal Guard, he recognized the temptation to give in to hate, but that would be counterproductive to his view of the force. A simpler way to put it is on a scale between Control (light side) and Power (dark Side). What is the point of power if you cant control it? Conversely what is the point of control if there is no power to control? Remember that Warden isn't that strong in the Force.
That was long winded. And prolly unnecessary. Glad you're a fan!
1664598 I'm assuming by "Jedi Councilor", you are making reference to the Jedi specialization in many of the games, a Jedi that concentrates more on the nature of the force than anything else (unlike a sentinel that evenly studies both, or a blade-master that, well...). Or, are you making reference to something else?
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I seriously had a name for it. It is combat using the Force exclusively. It sounded badass. The game's Councilor was the closest analogy (seeing as they usually dont fight)
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well. I had to write this. I really love star wars, and this can explain something to others, those who only knows movies. I trully recommend reading those books. I know that there is more than 200 of them, but it is worth, and I only read about 50 for now. I had to stop myself from writing more in those comment. About unifying force alone can by written more about fighting with mind destroing effects of using to much power from hate, and that new jedi order was teaching this far in future after Skywalker created it. But again I started to be like Twilight about this. I remember there is some book about all exiled jedi. even Yoda had something with this "third force school", after all, at the end he was living next to place where dark side was concentrated. well, I really ned to find place where I can talk about this.
Ps. agains sorry for errors, written on phone.
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Haha understandable. I would be concerned if I didn't have to defend a random cannon point every chapter. I walk a dangerous line of my readers being much larger bronies and MUCH larger starwars fans. I usually spend a few hours on wookeepedia just to be sure I dont put my foot in my mouth. So far Ive been able to argue my way through cannon issues. I haven't had to pull the "This is an alternate universe, so my word is law" card yet.
On an unrelated note: Where would you suggest I start if i were to begin reading the books?
1664788 *Nods Sagely* Thanks.
Well, I started with "Darth Bane" series. It is great story about dark jedi and dark side. and after this, more or less chronologicaly, list of them from "star wars wiki", (in English known as "wookiepedia".
1655757 By Grey in this case it means neither the side of Light or Dark [Everything has darkness in their heart] [It means Warden is a mix between the two Neutral in other words
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*Rolls eyes Flutterling Style*
If you had been following the conversation, you would know that the point of that post was the "unorthodox Jedi" portion, which I had mentally capitalized and presumed was a distinct term, rather than just a generic description. Long story short, the guy in this story is a Gray Jedi. There is no such thing as an Unorthodox Jedi, only a Jedi who is unorthodox.
Well that was interesting.
The story and the writing have problems that have mostly been pointed out, so I won't rehash it all. Still, it's engaging enough to me to be enjoyable despite those problems. I like the characterization, and the universe building is what I think draws me in the most, although I'm disappointed that we still haven't gotten to the differences between magic and the Force. That could have easily been touched on in one of the first chapters with Twilight. 
dl.dropbox.com/u/31471793/FiMFiction/emoticons/sillyfilly_Twilight_Sparkle.png Speaking of Twilight, that's the one character I think you missed. She just let him go and disappeared from the story altogether. While that in and of itself isn't wrong, the way she seemed disinterested in Warden at times, is. Twilight is very curious. She just has to know everything about everything! (
) So, when she met Warden at his ship and suddenly just stopped asking questions to go to sleep, that felt wrong.
Also, after Warden left her house, as far as we know, she never went looking for him. He was gone a long time, and it seems like she should have met up with him to talk more at some point. She should have at least been looking on when the guards took him away. Twilight would have probably known about their plans to arrest him.
Anyways, that's the only big issue that don't think has gotten adequate conversation yet. Overall, I do like this story, and it (on some aspects) seemed to get better the last few chapters. I guess that's due to you settling on a more focused direction?
Please do keep it going. dl.dropbox.com/u/31471793/FiMFiction/emoticons/misc_Lyra_smile.png
1662084>>1662102 Harmony is balance. Chaos would be unbalance. Therefore, Discord stays locked up. dl.dropbox.com/u/31471793/FiMFiction/emoticons/misc_Rainbow_dealwithit.png
Moar!
I read through the entire thing way too fast, now I need more!
"The important part of the day was going to good ol' Sunny Flank's School for Gifted Unicorns."
"I couldn't help but give a warm chuckle worthy of any old man in a red suit and a white beard."
I can't help but imagine this as Warden's theme song with his personality.
1663461Those, my dear fellow, are the True Sith. The modern Sith are a sect of Dark side followers. They shaped themselves in the way of the Sith of old.
1665382I have never read the full trilogy, but Darth Bane: Path of Destruction is my favorite Star Wars book.
1665050 I recommend starting with either the Thrawn trilogy or the Jedi Academy trilogy.
Now to actually comment on this story.
Celestia seems well portrayed and so does Luna. Out of the two, Lulu is the one likelier to support him in his Je'daii teachings. I use the old term rather than the new one because he isn't teaching Jedi practices, but that of a balance within the Force. Beings have emotions for a reason and I believe that there is a time and a place for everything, even if I can't stand it. Anger, as an example, can drive us to do terrible things, yet it can drive us to do many great things. For example, if Martin Luther King and the other members of the civil rights movement of America didn't feel any sort of anger or indignation at the status quo, they may not have done as much as they accomplished.Yet, they didn't let that anger over take them.
Dinky Doo as a Jedi Padawan? Yes! Do things the way of the unorthodox and original! I think she would be best as a Jedi Sentinel or maybe as a Consular.
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I know, I was talking about that they(modern ones) are not called "Siths" but "siths' lords" or "sith apprentice"
well I still can be wrong, but I am little crazy Star Wars fan.
1739643They are still referred to as the Sith as an order. They are called Sith Lords, because the Dark Jedi that founded the order found and enslaved the remnants of the Sith species.
1739109 Su cu'y gar vode