Let us suppose that the electorate follows a normal distribution. We have 3 candidates:
Righty
Centrist
Lefty
In head-towhead, they get:
Righty: 40% Centrist: 60%
Centrist: 60% Lefty: 40%
Righty: 50% Lefty: 50%
Centrist is the Condorcet-Winner.
In Plurality we get:
Righty: 40%
Centrist: 20%
Lefty: 40%
Under Plurality, Centrist, the Condorcet-Winner, finishes last due to Center-squeese.
Let us try IRV:
The 1st candidate eliminated is Centrist, the Condorcet-Winner. Surely, this cannot be because IRV cures all electoral ills. ¡It is basic math! The numbers do not lie.
40%
Righty
Centrist
Lefty
10%
Centrist
Righty
Lefty
10%
Centrist
Lefty
Righty
40%
Lefty
Centrist
Righty
Because Centris go only 20% of the 1st-Place vote, Centrist, the Condorcet winner looses.
I have always been into electoral mathematics. I write this to show that IRV is terrible system and that Approval works much better. I use this approach instead of starting by stating the simple true fact the IRV is a false reform, designed to block true reform. All of the 3rd-Party and independent votes go to the 2 major parts. When I started with IRV being a false reform, I get into arguments and never get to the mathematics. I find that it better to show the indisputable mathematics 1st, and then point out that IRV is a false reform.
The 2 parties (Duverger's Law) had an electorate demanding reform as false reform preserving 2-party dominance.
That is why I start with the mathematics before the history:
If I say to somepony grasping at straws that IRV is a false reform, they argue and one never gets to the mathematics. I start with the mathematics. Ponies cannot argue against the numbers.
It is not fair to ignore the 1 good thing about tIRV:
Although IRV transfer votes to the 2 major established parties, it does let the correct party:
If we would have used IRV in 2000, Gore would have carried New Hampshire and Florida. If Gore would have carried either of these 2 states, he would have won:
> "IRV, sure, it does not let 3rd parties and independents win, but it does allow the correct 1 of the 2 major parties to win."
Let us suppose that the electorate follows a normal distribution. We have 3 candidates:
In head-towhead, they get:
Righty:
40%
Centrist:
60%
Centrist:
60%
Lefty:
40%
Righty:
50%
Lefty:
50%
Centrist is the Condorcet-Winner.
In Plurality we get:
Righty:
40%
Centrist:
20%
Lefty:
40%
Under Plurality, Centrist, the Condorcet-Winner, finishes last due to Center-squeese.
Let us try IRV:
The 1st candidate eliminated is Centrist, the Condorcet-Winner. Surely, this cannot be because IRV cures all electoral ills. ¡It is basic math! The numbers do not lie.
40%
10%
10%
40%
Because Centris go only 20% of the 1st-Place vote, Centrist, the Condorcet winner looses.
Let us try Approval:
Righty:
40%
Centrist:
60%
Lefty:
40%
¡Centrist, the Condorcet-Winner, wins!
Ah, so I see you're getting into politics.
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I have always been into electoral mathematics. I write this to show that IRV is terrible system and that Approval works much better. I use this approach instead of starting by stating the simple true fact the IRV is a false reform, designed to block true reform. All of the 3rd-Party and independent votes go to the 2 major parts. When I started with IRV being a false reform, I get into arguments and never get to the mathematics. I find that it better to show the indisputable mathematics 1st, and then point out that IRV is a false reform.
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Australia uses IRV and they have a two party system.
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¡Exactly!:
The 2 parties (Duverger's Law) had an electorate demanding reform as false reform preserving 2-party dominance.
That is why I start with the mathematics before the history:
If I say to somepony grasping at straws that IRV is a false reform, they argue and one never gets to the mathematics. I start with the mathematics. Ponies cannot argue against the numbers.
It is not fair to ignore the 1 good thing about tIRV:
Although IRV transfer votes to the 2 major established parties, it does let the correct party:
If we would have used IRV in 2000, Gore would have carried New Hampshire and Florida. If Gore would have carried either of these 2 states, he would have won: