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    Hi there! Just a couple of quickies (Most MLP Gen 5 related)

    So, this 'MLP A New Generation' is a thing, huh? And the movie is being released to stream on Netflix next month?

    Let's take a look at the main cast, shall we?

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Aug
16th
2021

Hi there! Just a couple of quickies (Most MLP Gen 5 related) · 5:16pm Aug 16th, 2021

So, this 'MLP A New Generation' is a thing, huh? And the movie is being released to stream on Netflix next month?

Let's take a look at the main cast, shall we?

...Yeah. Apart from getting a distinct feeling of Uncanny Valley from these guys, I am also of the opinion that this will be targeted at a younger market than G4.

(What's the matter? Don't they like the bronies no more? :fluttercry: )

Apparently there's a trailer as well, which I won't watch because every trailer these days seems to give away half the film. But tell me... do they seem as creepy in the preview as they are on the poster, or is it just a case of looking bad in still-motion?

(I mean, I can understand why they went full CGI, but... where's the charm? :twilightoops: )

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As one of the few people round these parts who’s been publicly mixed on the film following the trailer, I’m in a good position to answer these questions.

Yes, the characters do look better in motion. CG characters usually do, of course, but the posters and other marketing still images are almost exclusively using DreamWorks Face (boy, do old habits die hard, given that DreamWorks is quite respectable these days - I’ve liked more of their recent films then Disney Animation ones, somehow - and they haven’t used it severely in many years), which is obviously not as dominating in the film itself, though it is still around a bit. You know the face, all smug expressions. Diluted a bit for the younger crowd, given MLP as a brand can’t have the kind of sarcastic zest of those films.

However, everything not to do with characters - environments, buildings, etc. - looks great, especially as the budget must have been low (not above $20 million, I’d wager). The characters are actually mostly fine, it’s just the weird proportions of the facial features inherited from the character designer’s signature artstyle, given them a human-like offness, at least when translated to 3D with a touch more realism to the designs then in FiM. I find you get used to it, but it’s always a mild itch. Except for Zipp, of course (the white pegasus). Somehow, they gave her narrow-slanted eyes (think about what they would want viewers to infer about her character from that), but forgot to adjust, or chose not to, the rest of her face to match. Every second staring at her face is a trip to the Uncanny Valley. Unlike the others, you don’t get used to this. This type of reaction is common enough if one looks around - most people just can’t articulate why she feels wrong.

Anyway, I think it’s less that it’s aimed younger, then it’s aimed at the same crowd FiM was (which is young kids and their parents, let’s remember), but with contempt rather then respect. The trailer sealed the deal - with this film, Hasbro wanted, and got, a film little different then any big standard CG animated film like we get several of every year. It’s the same things - it’s shrill, manic, desperate to please. Except in place of the three tiers of jokes aimed at different audiences (toilet humour, innuendos and pop culture references), it’s got a “desperate-to-be-hip-and-socially-relevant-with-today’s-kids” feel to it, and many aspects within. Everything about the pegasus locales and the two pegasus leads. Just another “babysitter kids’ film”, as I often think of them as.
And the voice cast, dear god, the voice cast. It’s mostly young actresses that are hip and socially relevant with the kids, or at least Hasbro hopes so. Izzy’s is an experienced voice actress (Ducktales, Spider-Verse, many others), and Sunny’s has some acting chops. But the two pegasi? One’s a former Disney Channel star, and in the trailer, lacks the energy her character needs, to put it mildly. And Zipp - they hired a YouTuber. Who has done some acting the last few years, but it ain’t showing up here. Her voice even fluctuates between her two trailer lines, from an affected male voice to the more expected female raspiness. As if that wasn’t enough, her “personality”/“character” is the most obviously “checklist-mandated” too, just to complete the trifecta of being the poorest effort in every measurable category.

Anyway, just to get back to your question, yeah, this film is very clearly forgoing the respectful, earnest, sincere, character-based direction that made FiM also work for us, with typical Hollywood sass and smarm in place of character depth. And since it’s MLP, with all those surpluses gone, there’ll be very few bones thrown for adults - this film is for kids and their dutiful parents. Which, you know, a respectful goal if done earnestly. Not here, I don’t think. This project is feeling very much like that Smurfs: The Lost Village film a few years back, but with a few extra red flags against it (the choice of plot scenario and setup being one of them, about which I will say no more). And that film was kind of likeable!

There are actually plenty of things I like from what we know - everything with Izzy, some of the early going-ons, etc. - and I’m delighted to root for the home team studio that produced the film, the first CG animated film in Ireland (since the visual issues are design choices, not technical failings, that helps). But they’re all compensating factors. It’ll be watched and quickly forgotten, even more so then the G4 film - that had very minimal impact on the fandom, and we’re even smaller now.

I am also of the opinion that this will be targeted at a younger market than the original

I am of the opinion that what you call "a younger market" has been the sole target audience since Lauren Faust was in it. As 5569601 pointed out, this was more showing a lack of respect for their developing-but-extant intelligence.

What's the matter? Don't they like the bronies no more? :fluttercry:

Go watch Fame and Misfortune with that question in your head. You will no longer be surprised by this movie.

The straight on image gives the impression of a human face with no nose, that might be the issue. In motion might fix the issue, but there is a distinct uncanny issue with the level of anthropomorphizing. As I did with FIM, I'm not jumping to just on any bandwagon. I'm probably going to wait for the hysteria to die down and see what I think after.

I am also of the opinion that this will be targeted at a younger market than the original.

I mean... that is the general idea of toymaking, to try and appeal to that decade's generation of kids

G1: 80s kids
G2: 90s kids
G3: 00s kids
G3.5: nobody learned anything from this
G4: 10s kids
G5: 20s kids

also "the original"? I get you're talking about G4 but that's kinda doing a disservice to a franchise that's been going for almost 40 years prior to this :unsuresweetie:

What's the matter? Don't they like the bronies no more? :fluttercry:

I mean considering the main character is a devoted fan of the Mane 6 and is trying to carry on their legacy I'd say they haven't forgotten about us, particularly with some scenes in the trailer and other places

But tell me... do they seem as creepy in the preview as they are on the poster, or is it just a case of looking bad in still-motion?

the latter - Izzy is the most adorable creature in G5 thus far tbh

5569601
Thank you. Very informative and well argued. :twistnerd:


5569609
You have a point there. I only just clicked as to the significance of the fillies at the end... :facehoof:


5569610
Different strokes and all that... :rainbowderp:


5569619
Yep. i plan to watch it, then reach a proper conclusion. No rushing to judgements here (apart from the poster) :derpyderp1:


5569622
Oops. I know what I meant, but obviously it came out wrong. Fortunately, you can edit blogs along with stories, so... :rainbowdetermined2:

5569622
In all fairness, G1 went darker than G4 ever did.

To answer one of your questions, the movie is aimed at generation alpha.

I honestly don't know how to feel about the movie. Hopefully it'll be good but points addressed by others has left me not wanting to get my hopes up. But I won't judge till I see it. Hopefully it'll be great!

Honestly I judge nothing until I see the full movie.

In the end I want cute ponies doing cute adventures.

5569625
Really now? Then please, I'd like to see it reanimated in G4 style. The animation style is the only thing stopping me from watching G1-3.5 of MLP.

I don't know why, but I constantly feel a vibe of disrespect for G4 emanating off of G5. Personally, I think any new MLP will always be measured against G4, no matter what Hasbro tries to do with G5.

5569601
So, to summarize, G5 is a G4-disrespecting farce with shallow characters and excessive patronization of young people.

5569764
damn you haven't even seen the whole film yet and you've already come to that conclusion based off the trailer alone

based on what I've seen however, the movie definitely pays its respects to G4's legacy as best as they can while still making it their own for the most part

5569794
And that, my friend, is the problem. G4 was like Queen, G5 is like Queen + Adam Lambert. This "Izzy" fellow will never match up to the likes of Twilight Sparkle, just as it is impossible for Adam Lambert to do Freddie Mercury sufficient justice.
I get that they're trying their best, but sometimes you just have to let a good thing be.

And then there's this:

And the voice cast, dear god, the voice cast. It’s mostly young actresses that are hip and socially relevant with the kids, or at least Hasbro hopes so. Izzy’s is an experienced voice actress (Ducktales, Spider-Verse, many others), and Sunny’s has some acting chops. But the two pegasi? One’s a former Disney Channel star, and in the trailer, lacks the energy her character needs, to put it mildly. And Zipp - they hired a YouTuber. Who has done some acting the last few years, but it ain’t showing up here. Her voice even fluctuates between her two trailer lines, from an affected male voice to the more expected female raspiness. As if that wasn’t enough, her “personality”/“character” is the most obviously “checklist-mandated” too, just to complete the trifecta of being the poorest effort in every measurable category.

I've highlighted the most disrespectful parts.

And finally, this:

Anyway, just to get back to your question, yeah, this film is very clearly forgoing the respectful, earnest, sincere, character-based direction that made FiM also work for us, with typical Hollywood sass and smarm in place of character depth. And since it’s MLP, with all those surpluses gone, there’ll be very few bones thrown for adults - this film is for kids and their dutiful parents. Which, you know, a respectful goal if done earnestly. Not here, I don’t think. This project is feeling very much like that Smurfs: The Lost Village film a few years back, but with a few extra red flags against it (the choice of plot scenario and setup being one of them, about which I will say no more). And that film was kind of likeable!

There is EVERYTHING wrong with this, it doesn't take having a PhD in astrophysics like Dr Brian May to understand what's wrong with this.


I'm still gonna watch G5, but only so I can claim the extra credibility that comes with having already watched it for my opinion on it. I'll be going in with the lowest expectations in the world, and coming out disappointed.

5569866

I'll be going in with the lowest expectations in the world, and coming out disappointed.

you sound awfully dead-set on not enjoying this movie even a little bit m8

I thought the Sonic movie (which coincidentally also featured James Marsden) was gonna be terrible and went in with low expectations, but ended up coming out of it feeling pleasantly surprised and impressed with what I saw - at least try and have a modicum of optimism going into this, it's not a completely irredeemable movie from what I've seen

I mean, okay, the voice cast is full of people who probably won't be reprising their roles in the series barring Kimiko Glenn as best bean pony Izzy and possibly a couple others, but there's another half of the cast that that original commenter neglected to mention who are seasoned actors both on-screen and behind the microphone: James Marsden which as I've mentioned above, does a lot of movies involving talking animals (and also appeared in Disney's Enchanted), Michael McKean of Spinal Tap and SNL fame, Ken Jeong of Ken Jeong fame, Jane Krakowski of TV/Broadway fame, Elizabeth Perkins of film fame (and also a brief appearance at the beginning of Finding Nemo) and Phil LaMarr of Samurai Fuckin' Jack/Futurama/so much more fame

This "Izzy" fellow will never match up to the likes of Twilight Sparkle,

she's not trying to tho - and she's not even the main lead character anyway, that title belongs to Sunny Starscout, the orange one with the purple mane and the Mane Six dolls on her bedside table - but Izzy is an important part of the story though, and people are already in love with her just from the trailer (and even before that) because random objects somehow end up on her horn throughout the course of the movie like a tennis ball magic suppressor and a can of beans which she ends up spilling and also because she's voiced by Peni Parker (which I stand by my opinion of that movie being the best animated movie I saw that year)

these are separate characters, they're not trying to outdo the original Mane Six, it's just something new, and something that inevitably happens - buying into the fearmongering of people who want to see it fail isn't the way to go

welcome to the new world m8

5569872
1. Yes. I'm still gonna watch it because it's MLP, but I have very low expectations for it.

2. There's gonna be a fucking SERIES?!

3. There shouldn't even BE something new! If they're gonna continue MLP, why the FUCK not just stick with G4?! Tried and tested, beloved characters with depth and personality, and not some cheap, badly-animated Hollywood knockoff like G5 will definitely be!

4. Bring me back to the old world then. If the new world is one with G5 instead of G4, then I'd rather keep G4 than be forced to accept the stupid SJW bullshit that will inevitably be infused throughout G5.

5569891

There's gonna be a fucking SERIES?!

I mean... yeah? that's kinda the whole point

how the hell can you already hate this generation so much when you clearly know nothing about it

There shouldn't even BE something new! If they're gonna continue MLP, why the FUCK not just stick with G4?!

i.pinimg.com/originals/08/db/31/08db311c1aa0143d5a58736f8a9af9d8.jpg

and also because it seems to me like they reset the franchise at least once per decade, I'm sure they'd have loved to keep it going at least a little bit longer to hit that even 10 season mark, but if they kept it going past that they'd have inevitably fallen into the trap of seasonal rot which helps nobody - hell you've already got whats-his-nuts complaining about wanting to "revise" season 9

cheap, badly-animated Hollywood knockoff

have you actually seen the trailer

stupid SJW bullshit

aaaaaaaand there it is, I think we're done here - are you sure we watched the same show m8? because the whole point of G4 was to promote friendship across all races, which seems to be the main task of G5 as well, just for a newer generation of kids who are seeing the ugliness going on in the world right now and don't know what to do

if that's "woke" to you then you clearly learned nothing from G4

5569928
The thing is, they're planning on taking friendship and recycling it to push some ridiculous "woke" SJW feminist agenda. And that's not even my MANE problem with G5!
First of all, 5569601 already said this before: G5 doesn't have the same emphasis on character development and personality that G4 had.
Second, I hate that the voice actors seem to be selected specifically to pander to some sort of arbitrarily "hip" young audience, also as 5569601 said.

It's not all about the SJW bullshit they're about to turn friendship into, it's also the overly-polished corporate nature.
And of course I know G4 was promoting friendship between races, but even if G5 promotes the same thing that doesn't stop it from being promoted in the cringy SJW style I'm complaining about.
It's not the friendship I'm against, it's the cringy "woke" style in which the friendship is being presented.
If this is how G5 is gonna be, I would gladly take G4 seasonal rot over G5 doing to MLP what Chibnall did to Doctor Who.

And before you call me a far-right conservative, I do support Joe Biden. I just don't like these "woke" SJW idiots who go around randomly "cancelling" people for "assuming their gender".
Oh, one last thing: expensively-animated does NOT equal well-animated.

5569891
ANG is very much not a Hollywood production, any more than FiM was. FiM was made in Canada; ANG is being made in Ireland (mostly to be rid of Canada's unions - G6 will no doubt be made in New Zealand for the same reason).

5570361
I didn't say it was being made IN Hollywood, but the story style will definitely be Hollywood cliche.

5570839
5569928
So, I finally went and watched the trailer.
I hated it. It's horrible.
I don't see any of the personality that G4 had in G5.
What else can you say now that I've watched the trailer too?

5573356
That, while trailers try to cherry-pick the best bits, in this case they're cherry-picking what they see as the best bits for the actual target audience which isn't us and never was. And with old white men trying to appeal to little girls, we might at least get a laugh out of their incompetence. And that, as I said before, G4 went out of its way to devote an entire episode to telling people like us to stop watching pony (which didn't work then either).

5577460
Of course! It all makes sense now. They're trying to kick us bronies away from MLP by ruining it using G5.

r/conspiracy

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