Logical Outcomes

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[Sarah Dino Runnerhoof]

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Very funny!

[Darkstarling]

I’ve been reading up on fics with this exact topic. You should check out The Stone Griffin on Ao3, it’s amazing.

Admittedly Lucy’s spelling isn’t very good, she was raised by wolves and satyrs you know. She’s more of a priestess who is alarmingly good with a knife. Susan and Edmund on the other hand... spies, diplomats, and lawmakers the both of them. Susan more the diplomat, Edmund more the lawgiver. Peter tries, and he’s decent enough, but he’s just not a scholar at heart. Ask him to lead people, design infrastructure, or plan a war on the other hand...

[Darkstarling]

The real question is whether England is ready for Queen Lucy the Valiant to be unleashed on it. Because she may not be old enough to serve in WWII or the aftermath, but when she gets into politics? Maybe gets ready to take on sexism, especially in the church? Look out!

[Amethyst_Dawn]

A very good point...

[FanOfMostEverything]

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Susan in particular, since she wasn't brought into Narnia at the end of the series... though Lewis did later say she could get there "in her own way." Presumably she could reshape the British political landscape in the meantime.

[Darkstarling]

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Yep. Personally I’m all about Susan fix fics since she gets a very raw deal in the text. Aslan may not be tame but he’s certainly not cruel. And even keeping close as possible to the text? Arguments with her family with awful timing aside, even if she doesn’t return to Narnia it’s more likely because she still had work to do in England.

Or elsewhere. Personally I hope she retrieves the rings and founds a fellowship of world crossing Knights Errant. They weren’t destroyed for a reason after all, and I’m sure there’s more in store for them than just helping create the Wardrobe. And spending time among those roots would also have blessed them. So yeah, she can found The Order of the Wood. She can almost certainly learn how to make her own rings too. If that idiot Andrew could do it so can she.

[Darkstarling]

By the way, The Stone Griffin is the series name. The first story in the series is Oxfordshire, 1942. Seriously, cannot recommend highly enough.

[Crack-Fic Casey]

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Reading Narnian fanfiction feels so weird.

As far as redeeming Susan... I;m not sure I'd want to make her an action girl specifically. There's room for that interpertation but the Damsel in Distress trope is so panned now it feels like anyone who isn't an action-something is dismissed, and that doesn't seem fair to fans that aren't action-y themselves. I know I get annoyed at how many hoops stories will jump through just to avoid the word sidekick; given a choise between Twilight and Spike and I'd be Spike.

Anyway, I would like to fix Susan; off-screen Face-Heel-Turn is a lousy fate. I'm not sure how she'd go looking[/i, she was supposed to represent Christians who wandered away from religion... So she wouldn't be seeking Narnia specifically. She apparently got shallow and obbsessed with status symbols, so maybe she starts the book with some dandy boyfriend who gets into trouble? Atlantis is real, Sherlock Holmes is real, what other noteworthy book/artifact things could be real? There were som roman gods the partied with Aslan... How about Dandy Boyfriend is studying magic and gets in over his head, and Susan has to go after him to one of the other worlds? She can't see Aslan because she doesn't want to, but he could give her a guide, probably a stand-in for an angel? And whatever the Dandy Boyfriend is getting screwed over by is also something he won't let go of because it's promising him power or something, and she has to escape because people have to want to change to do so?

[Darkstarling]

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I liked that the spy work Susan got up to in The Stone Griffin is actual spy work: much intrigue, but not much action. Let her use her talents, and her handiness with a bow. Besides, as she herself says in the story at one point, no one gets knighted for domestic management.

I think the trick for text-Susan is that, if you take Narnia seriously, than whatever Lucy's opinion on the matter she didn't just decide it was childish or didn't exist. That's a good fifteen years of her life! It seems more likely that she deliberately ran away from it because it became too much to bear. Many versions I've seen have her mourning a husband in Narnia, but other possibilities too.

There's a lot of potential in a rich idiot boyfriend getting in over his head, and all this stuff that she's tried to ignore comes crashing back. And because of who she is, she can't just turn away.

[Crack-Fic Casey]

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I've always felt like Narnia needs to be taken at a specific level of seriousness, and I'm not sure The Stone Griffon is what I'm looking for— though I guess it's also just really late. I did really enjoy the first one, I'm spectacularly annoyed that Narnains spread rumors that Aslan is a demon, I liked most of the spiritual stuff, and Mary is interesting enough to helm her own franchise.

I also hadn't thought of how arbitrary Susan's face-heel-turn was— Okay so Narnia is usually an allegory and it's pretty passionately Christian. Susan was meant to represent how people slide away from the faith, but that feels like a bridge too far. Most of the time Lewis's stellar narration and the oddity of Narnia let us gloss over logical things like that but that gets stretched pretty thin in The Last Battle, and the more I think about it the less I like it until we get to the end of the world. But anyway, Susan needs to want to leave Narnia behind, maybe in favor of something? She could be bitter about being made to leave Narnia, not realizing what she could do for Earth.

[Darkstarling]

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I think the ‘Aslan is a demon’ rumors were a reference to how the Calormenes seem to think that in The Horse And His Boy. They needed breathing space from Calormene because they were a young impoverished nation that just came off a hundred years of winter. And the Calormene cultural framework probably doesn’t have space for ‘another god you don’t want to mess with’ so... Still, it might have been a mistake. They certainly made them.

Mary IS interesting enough for her own series, let alone Richard and Assim and the rest of that household.

Agreed on those takes in Susan. Lots of ways to take it.

[Crack-Fic Casey]

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C.S LEWIS TOLD A FAN TO WRITE A FIX-FIC FOR SUSAN IF IT WOULD MAKE THEM FEEL BETTER FOR SUSAN
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[Darkstarling]

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Cool! TIL