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Jan
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Implied Alicorn-ascension by influencing the IDW season 10 comic writers to change canon itself. · 1:46pm Jan 10th, 2020

(Okay, bit of a bold statement there. Hold on, let me explain, it's not nearly as ludicrous as it sounds. :twilightblush:)

In case some of you didn't know, in April, IDW is going to begin releasing it's "MLP:FiM season 10"-comic series.

I have... incredibly mixed feelings on this.

On one hoof, it's a chance for them to improve on the, ahem, "happy end" we got. :ajbemused:

For example, the comics seem to be able to do some things the show couldn't get away with. So we might get some Spike / Rarity interaction "too hot for a TV-Y rating". (Pretty sure the reason they couldn't ship the two was the age difference.)

On the other hoof, it's a chance for them to make things even worse.

What, if Rarity is confirmed to live in Yakyakistan entirely now? But Spike doesn't? :raritydespair:

What, if we are shown Celestia and Luna, reduced to a life of "slightly above average" mundanity, talking about "getting old"? Or worse, shown in the future with aging wrinkles? :twilightoops:

What, if they do an entire comic on Granny Smith's death and "accepting death"? :pinkiesick:

And I'm making that prediction right now, that a lot of the comics will be told in "flashback from the future" form to tell Luster Dawn, Little Cheese, or Big Mac's foal a story or teach a lesson or something. But the Mane 6 themselves are never actually gonna do anything interesting in the future. "It's the next generation's turn." :facehoof:

(On that note, PLEASE DON'T GIVE ME SPOILERS if any such information is already available. I DON'T WANT TO KNOW IN ADVANCE. :ajbemused:)


On the third hoof...

This might also be a chance to still get a word in about some things.

I admit I haven't got a clue about how exactly IDW operates, but I'm guessing, the comic is gonna run for a year or two, and they don't have every single panel drawn in advance, obviously.

...And aren't several fandom artists working for IDW, now? Like pencils? Not sure who else, I admit I haven't kept up with that. :twilightsheepish:

So. Here's my thought.

What, if we - as in, us, the fandom - could influence the upcoming IDW season 10 comics in some minor way to put something in the background of one the later comics (probably too late for the early ones). Or add some extra text. :rainbowderp:

Just something minor, that doesn't change the story of the comic, but that changes, if not the canon, then the common fandom interpretation, by what it implies.

If "aging wrinkles" imply Twilight's friends' death as a fandom reaction, then there can also be a reverse to that, without the comics outright having to canonically give them alicornhood. (Although quite frankly, that would be the preferred solution, since it would solve multiple problems the final episode created simultaneously. :facehoof:)

Just something that strongly hints a solution can still be found, that a better future awaits them still. It doesn't have to be anything 100% definite.

What could that "something" be?

Well, I'm not sure, and I would like some input on that. It'd have to be something extremely simple to try to convince them to add it, though. It couldn't be "front and center stage", we're not likely to get them to totally change the plot of a planned comic, and making unreasonable demands wouldn't get us anywhere.


A possible thought would be hinting at "life extension" by way of showing some non-pony scientist in the future working on a new anti-age potion, spell, device, or something of the sort.

(It'd have to be a bit more fleshed out than that, though. "Age spells" were already a canon thing in the show - yet old ponies were still old. So it couldn't have been that easy. Probably only possible now because it's "a brand new discovery" made by non-pony/pony collaboration.)

Again, not sure how to best do that visually in the background of one or two panels. :applejackunsure:


Or something for the Mane 6 specifically; something to hint the potential for ascension still exists and the opportunity has not passed. I'm sure we'll see comics set in that future.

What about this visual:

Twilight and her friends, in the future, talking about "how the future looks bright", or "looking forward to what more the future might bring". They cast shadows against a wall. Their shadows have wings and horns.

...Actually, that seems like an extremely simple way to do it. The implication is there, but it's vague enough for interpretation, and the comics themselves never have to address the issue, it's up to us to pick up on it, but it's there as a possibility. :rainbowderp:

And if someone doesn't like the idea of their ascension, it's vague enough both interpretations are equally valid. It's just that, right now, the ratio of "they're all going to die" to "they don't" by popular fandom interpretation is 95-to-5 in favor of them dying. :applejackconfused: Achieving at least 50-50 would be the goal. :ajsmug:



Input welcome, on what the best "simple thing" to ask for would be, and how to best approach them and ask for it, how to prepare for asking them (e.g. mock-up visual), etc.

Are there legal difficulties involved in us trying to prompt them into "giving them an idea"? (E.g., the show writers were never allowed to read fanfiction since it might've influenced them, and apparently, Hasbro didn't want to take the chance getting sued by the fans. :facehoof:) If so, how do we circumvent those? Give express written permission? Do it as a petition? :rainbowhuh:


In case it isn't clear what the point of this idea is:

If we influence the IDW season 10 comics, we influence the "canon status quo". If we can "inject" a detail in there in just the right way for the larger fandom (including outside the fanfic scene) to pick up on it and extrapolate from it into stories and art, we can influence the majority fandom interpretation of events, and we can get a better future. Profit. :ajsmug:

It's a crazy undertaking, but... it's a chance. :pinkiesmile:

Though, is there anyone else out there better suited to organize this than me? :derpyderp1:

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Comments ( 3 )

I'm sorry you're still having so much difficulty with this; I'm not really sure how to help.
Good luck, one way or another (including possibly pulling this off, and it working; I'm not sure how to help with that either, though); I don't have to fully understand your pain (From my perspective, fanfiction's been showing them as all dead or all alive, among others, for years already.) to observe it and want you to be happier.

Comment posted by Shilic deleted Jan 11th, 2020

I certainly wouldn't mind if they did become alicorns in the comics. I want her not to outlive her friends, even though my main idea is different from yours I'd be good with all of them having longer lives or immortality.

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