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It was actually a pretty cute episode.
5103301 Really? Maybe it was at the end, but for most of the episode we had to watch Rainbow Dash at one of her worst performances of all time. She even reduced Yona and Ocellus to tears because she didn't care about their interest. That wasn't cute, Yona and Ocellus deserved far better from one of their professors.
I loved the lesson in here. I also loved how it's hinting Twilight slowly becoming more and more like Celestia
so adorable. If Twilight keeps it up she could be an even greater ruler than her.
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yea this episode kinda sucked, the core lesson os ok, but it it was written SOOOO badly, god I feel awful for RD and her voice actor being treated like this
I liked this episode, especially with my second fave dragon coming to the fore-front in opening a certain rainbow mare's eyes at how insensitive she was behaving.
Okay-ish episode. The second half of season 9 gets off to a slow start. But trust me, it gets better.
6/10
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But at least the cheerleaders were cute. Which is nice...
Well well. It seems Twilight has picked up a thing or two from her mentor. Maybe she's more capable than she thinks she is.
Of course, most of us already knew that.
Not gonna lie: this one was kinda painful. I get that Rainbow Dash was supposed to be in the wrong, but she really didn't have to be such a jerk about it. The only saving grace was my aforementioned compliment on Twilight, where she knew this exact thing would happen and wanted to teach RD a lesson. That was brilliant. Everything else was... cringe-inducing.
I liked the concept of the episode (insofar as it's supposedly about supporting people you care about even if you don't enjoy what they do), but the execution... not so much. Rainbow Dash seemed excessively disinterested and dismissive of the cheerleader squad.
For somepony who thrives on attention, you'd think that she'd at least have some appreciation for what cheerleaders do, instead of half-assing her coaching and ditching her students in such a manner. Element of Loyalty, everyone.
On the upside, Smoulder was a boss when she gave Rainbow a piece of her mind. And Celestia's use of the Royal Canterlot Voice was a fun surprise.
*Sigh.* No new Pony this week, just School of Friendship garbage.
(I gave it a chance, it hurt me too much.)
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Hahahahahahahaha!!! Oh wait, you were serious. Lemme laugh even harder. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
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Careful. You're going to trigger Zimmerwald and the brigade of people who argue with him.
Rainbow Dash was Jimmy Dugan from A League of Their Own for most of this episode. He also didn't care to coach the team he was given, and he worked the absolute minimum necessary.
Pinkie was the obvious choice for cheerleading coach -- as she's been a canonical cheerleader -- but she's a little busy coaching the buckball team.
I do give the writers credit for not completely copying ALoTO. Rainbow still didn't really care about cheerleading at the end, but she did really care about the creatures she coached.
I liked this episode more than many people here because I've experienced what Rainbow has. I've had to learn to like some things I'm not passionate about in order to get the job done. I suspect a lot of parents know this dilemma too. Their kids get involved with something they aren't interested in, but they learn to like it for their kids' sake.
EDIT: Even if you aren't a parent, you've certainly been a kid. Do you think your parents or parental figures were enthusiastic about everything you did, or did they go along with it because you liked it?
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That bloke is as inevitable as taxes, the tides, and women finding me irresistible at this point
Rainbow Dash knew the elements of a good cheer all the way back to the sixteenth episode where she was teaching Fluttershy how to cheer.
Watching the results, losing by one to Celestia, it makes me wonder if Twi threw the game. Snails Shy and Pinkie are pretty much savants of the game and horribly bad at being able to teach what they do because they do it in their own way that is unteachable. By putting them in charge and keeping Dash away she made certain the training would go badly. It makes me wonder if she sabotaged the team to not embarrass her mentor.
Wow, and I do mean wow, but move over Newbie Dash or Non Compete Clause. We have Rainbow's worst episode ever right here. The plot was bad on paper and somehow even worse on execution. The writing is awful for Rainbow and Twilight. The moral itself is messed up too. Maybe if the message was more along the lines of learning to broaden your interests or something like that, it would havee worked then.
Rainbow is easily at her worst here. I know the writing has never been the best to her as she's inconsistent, but she's on another level of awful here. She's nasty, openly insults the team, and is so damn dense that you wonder why the team put up with her for so long. She makes two students cry and doesn't care! Why does Rainbow suck with the students so badly?
When it comes to her "apology" it doesn't really come off as sincere as it seems she's doing this because she was told she was awesome at stuff. It comes more off as her stroking her ego.
Twilight is just as bad with her attempt at teaching a lesson. She put Rainbow in a situation she wasn't qualified for and expected her to do it. What would she do then if things didn't go as planned? What she say to Celestia? Her whole plan is based on a whim. She's not coming off wise with her plan, she just got lucky things didn't fall apart. No, Twilight, you don't get to smile and act like you did something good.
The cheer squad themselves were really good and I liked them. Snips actually was really good and showed more concern for the team about them doing better. The cheer show itself was good. A shame those can't save this episode.
Speaking of Snips, it's amazing how he was more mature and sensible for the cheer squad then Rainbow. Hell, Snips acted more like a coach then Rainbow did throughout the episode. A character who hasn't played a big role since season 1 just kicked Rainbow's flank all over the place. How do you do that? What a mess of an episode this was.
P.S. where was Silverstream? Shouldn't a hippogriff that's bouncy, energetic, and joyful be a part of the squad?
The episode was alright. They kind of already did this lesson with Honest Apple, where it was executed far more believably. RD would totally be familiar with cheerleading, what with how egocentric she can be at times. Were I writing the episode, I would have replaced Dash with Limestone, whom Pinkie called in once it became clear she couldn't coach, and changed the lesson to be about sharing encouragement just to cheer people up, even when in reality they're doing poorly.
Also, I'm shocked they actually made unicorn restraining rings canon after all this time, given it's such a common idea in the community. Of course, it greatly amuses me that instead of, you know, being created to contain criminal magic-users, as is the norm, one was finally made just so an all-unicorn team could play buckball. Only in Equestria, am I right?
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If Silverstream was there, she probably would've solved the episode on her own.
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I think that's exactly what happened. Well played, Twilight.
Like last week, this was another story that would have been better if the show did 11-minute episodes. Watching Rainbow Dash be completely dismissive of others' interests over two entire acts made her really unlikable. And Rainbow had to not care in order for the lesson to work.
Is this the first time that magic inhibitor horn rings were depicted in canon? I know there was the spell from "Equestria Games," but I don't remember seeing the rings that occasionally show up in fanfiction.
My main takeaway from this episode was the reaffirmation of my wish that the characters could show some signs of aging. The idea of Snips' moneymaking venture was good, but it would have been more believable if he looked like the teenager he'd be by now.
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She gets like that around Rainbow Dash. Her last bona fide Celestia-like moment was in Rainbow Falls.
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To be fair, what she picked up is one of her mentor's worst, most criticized habits/teaching methods. Here, as usual, it gets people hurt, and not even the trainee, but third parties.
Anyway, whatever happened to Sonic Rainboom? When Rainbow Dash was perfectly fine acting as a cheer coach? I get that in Sonic Rainboom she was trying to coach Fluttershy to cheer for her, which made all the difference in terms of her interest, but Rainbow's constant refrain this episode was about skill as well as interest. Possibly the references to skill were a smokescreen or deflection on her part?
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School of Frindship episodes take take the character's worse traits, up them to eleven and erase their good traits so the Young Six can look better.
Scholastic Fuckball. X3
Rainbow Dash being at her worst. Again. O3O
Fuckball. ^3^
Soccer mom Celestia is scary. O3O
This episode is kinda… meh. But still okay.
Something that has long time annoyed me is when people trash an episode because an episode focuses on a character's negative traits at their worst and shows them learning from it. Because characters apparently aren't allowed to be less then slightly negative.
Rainbow Dash has always been a person that thrives on getting attention rather than giving it unless it is one of her idols. Her showing complete disinterest in a cheer squad that isn't cheering her isnt farfetched.
Snips and Snails are much better than they were in S1, aren't they?
They were actually one of the positive qualities this episode had (unpopular opinion, possibly: I enjoyed it overall).
Snips probably would never pull a Boast Busters again, rope anyone else into such a halfwitted plan like he did there, judging from how this was an exchange in The Last Crusade (before he was proven wrong):
I'd probably trust Snips to have more upstanding morals than Flim and Flam, in any case, whether he's greedy or not, lol.
As for Snails, a hidden talent he's been shown to have is being good under pressure, due to him not thinking about what he's doing (kind of like say, Forrest Gump, maybe), and he's skilled at telekinesis to the point that he can self-levitate, as shown in this episode, not just use a bucket as a proxy as he did in Buckball Season.
I'd say those two are redeemed of being what they were in S1, because they're actually entertaining now, and probably won't be doing something that endangers the entire town in the future out of foolishness.
(Well, the thing that makes that Ursa Minor case forgivable to me is that it wasn't ever done out of malice, now was it? In any case, Trixie [under the influence of that dark magical amulet she willingly put on] made them suffer for it, arguably disproportionately so.)
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It was a pretty nice episode today ^^. The return of the royal voice is always good ^^.
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It was Executive Meddling that caused it, so as far as how implementing it went, I'd say they did a good job.
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Now THAT'S speaking the truth!
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Celestia said she made some so, probably not? It sounds like an idea Twilight came up with and Celestia made it happen.
Ugh! Good grief, Dash! What would your parents have to say about this? Them being YOUR cheerleaders made YOU who you are. Is it too much to ask for you to do the same for someone else?
Good gosh, I wanted her parents to show up and give her a good tongue-lashing the moment she started complaining.
I know a lot of people harp on RD for being disinterested in the sport and being an overall bad coach, but when you look at her history with it, can you really blame her? She absolutely loathed her parents cheering because of how overly obnoxious it was for years up until the present. Even with the knowledge that it made her as good as she was, it probably put a bad taste in her mouth. If you think about it like that, it probably makes more sense she wouldn't think much of cheering.
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One ring to make you into an earth-pony
One ring to make it = !
Make a BuckBall team, with your O.C.s !
After last week I was Hoping the other characters would get major boost . As soon I saw a new writer for An RD, episode i was like “oh no”. This is the worst RD been If I were to make a MLP tier list, RD would permanently stay in the D list of life for this. Good gravy I don’t if you ever lose the element of harmony. But yeah after this she should lose it until she gains in back.
This was Smolter the Star for calling out RD on her bs. Really the thing I liked was Twilight.
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You know I agree yeah he was after the money but at least he tried!
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I'm not harping on RD for not liking cheerleading. I'm harping on her for being a self-centered, irresponsible little brat when she was put into a situation where she NEEDED to be the adult in the room, and part of being the adult means you have to actually put effort into responsibilities that you don't particularly like. I should know. I know this season taught us that it was okay to let loose and be a kid every once in a while, but this was definitely not one of those times.
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My comment wasn't really aimed at you. It was aimed at comments similar to yours but not yours in general. I only offered an explanation for her disinterest and apathy.
You know something to think about, and forgive me for asking what may be a stupid question here, but why doesn't Rainbow Dash just quit the coaching job?
If she hated the job that much, what was stopping Rainbow from going to Twilight and telling her she quits? She doesn't care about cheering and doesn't want to do it. What's stopping her from walking off? Maybe it's a matter of pride as Rainbow doesn't quit, but I think since she hated it so much that would've been the logical conclusion to this.
This felt like one of the weaker episodes of season 9 IMO. Twilight should've assigned another pony to coach the cheer team, and Dash was obviously not the right choice. It was nice to see Dash finally do her job in the third act, but the first two acts were tough to watch as a Rainbow Dash fan.
Dash was such a bitch this episode. At least she came around in the end, per the norm
Celestia's definitely rubbing off on Twilight, as well
I'll admit it was far from the best we've had this season, in fact I'll just get it out of the way and say it's 14th of the 15 so far. But it's nowhere near as bad as all the comments I saw beforehand made it out to be either. Yes RD was rough and I'm mad that she drove Yona to tears, but as Kztxl and Lightbuster pointed out, it's hardly the character assassination that was being claimed (you want that for RD, recheck Stranger Than Fan Fiction and to a lesser degree, Daring Done). At least we got some nice development for Smolder and Snails, Twilight showing she's learning from both Celestia and Discord, and Rainbow working through one of her remaining flaws out of it. Plus we can only go up from here!
Looking back on the show, I do seem to have a soft spot for RD episodes everyone else hates. Mare Do Well, 28 Pranks Later and Non-Compete Clause aren't the worst of their seasons, while Parental Glidance and The Washouts are both in my top 15.
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Guess I'm the only one that considers Tanks For The Memories the worst RD episode.
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Rainbow Dash episodes pretty much always revolve around her inability to communicate like a normal human being, and this one is no different. What bugs me about this episode more, though, is that Twilight went out of her way to FORCE her to do it just because she feels like Rainbow Dash needs to "learn a lesson", and wouldn't take "no" for an answer. I have problems with this.
Who the fuck does Twilight think she is to try to force a "lesson" on somepony who's not hurting or offending anybody? It's one thing for a character to fuck up somehow and need to learn a lesson, but Rainbow Dash is minding her own business not hurting anybody, only to be thrust into a situation she doesn't want to be in so that she can learn a lesson Twilight wants her to learn. That's an AWFUL way to deliver a moral, because an equally valid way for Rainbow Dash to deal with something she doesn't like, like Cheerleading, is to simply not take part in it. WHICH IS WHAT SHE WANTED TO DO IN THE FIRST PLACE! Nothing says that you have to actively take part in your friends' interests even if you don't like those interests, you can support their decision to do it without being personally involved. Which is actually a far better and more true-to-life moral.
I'd call it certainly one of the weaker episodes of Season 9. I'd call it one of the weaker in the series if Smolder wasn't so awesome and Ocellus wasn't so adorable.
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Per the stinger at the end, she thinks she's Celestia, and that that which was good for her is good for everyone else.
Bodes well for the future in which she has absolute power, dunnit?
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It's fine to do an episode where one of the main characters is at their worst, but pulling it off is a tricky balancing act. After all, why would we want to spend a half hour with someone who's acting in a way we don't like?
The problem here isn't that Rainbow Dash herself doesn't care about cheerleading -- it's how dismissive she is toward anyone who does like it. She acts that way for 2/3 of the episode's running time, and it gets to be pretty unbearable.
If a character that we're supposed to like is going to be a jerk for 2/3 of an episode, then they need to have some grand epiphany so the audience will be willing to forgive their awful behavior. In this case, Rainbow's epiphany came in the form of being told how awesome she is, which doesn't feel karmic enough to make up for her actions.
(cough) Most boring episode of the season (cough)
Uprooted is still my personal least favorite episode of the season. I'm not sure I'm gonna rewatch that one, but if you liked it, that's fine.
With this one, it was like with Non-Compete Clause, in that I'd seen people shitting on the episode... and I ended up enjoying it.
That being said, I feel like this is a better episode than Non-Compete Clause (which is an opinion I've seen the opposite of).
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Soooooooo.......
Worst episode so far?
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The thing is her being dismissive of something she doesn't like/lacks a complete interest in still isn't out of character or "wrong" as we've seen this with her and books. It took being hospitalized with a broken wing before she decided she liked them after dismissing reading as something for "eggheads".
I mean of course it's going to be unbearable to see her at her worst. I don't think seeing anyone at their worst should be bearable unless you have a very strong dislike of the character.
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Never forget the time Twilight mind controlled children.