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Harmless fun, a little mythical word building, and confirmation that Apple Bloom was in fact born before the Apple parents died. Nothing amazing, but definitely better than some episodes. ("Non-Compete Clause," I'm looking at you.)
What's the magical creature of this episode? EDIT: the Great Seedling, if it we're real, looks like it could be some manner of dryad or spriggan (at least that's my first impression).
Okay, I know we're a bunch of adults who enjoy a kid's cartoon, but we don't enjoy it for the same reasons a kid would. What could've been a relatable episode just barely missed the mark.
This one was quite banal. I like the concept of being mature not meaning you have to give up stuff you like, but the buildup wasn't worth the payoff. When Applejack immediately bought into the myth in the third act, everything just kinda faltered. It would've been better if she continued playing pretend, not just to appease Apple Bloom, but because she herself was having fun. And she could in turn impart that wisdom unto Apple Bloom. That would've made for a great episode. Instead, it was just pedestrian. What a shame.
A fun little romp with a message that growing up doesn’t have to mean giving up—as in giving up your youthful sense of adventure and mystique. More Big Mac is always welcome.
I like how this episode show that you shouldn't stop enjoying something even if people disagree. There some people out there that think once you grow-up that you can't enjoy cartoons, video games, Santa Claus, or Halloween.
I disagree about the Great Seedling helping the Apples out after they captured him. From studying mythology, most fey being/creatures would be angry and vengeful if try to captured them or interfere with their work. Most like the Great Seedling help to ensure a bountiful harvest as gratitude to the Apples for taking great care of the lands.
Now just three episode left until the season break.
Okey I like that the AppleJack get to bond over something . I feel the message need a few kinks. Like say you have something you like but don’t let your responsibilities slip. Like saying Apple Bloom to buck a few trees. While setting up traps . But no AppleJack felt guilty for having to not helping as a filly. But then poor Big Mac ended up doing most the work. And nobody felt sorry for him, and even said sorry .
Also we actually saw Apple Bloom as a baby while the parents are alive that’s good.
I agree with you about that Applejack should have let Apple Bloom know it okay to have a hobby as long as it doesn't interfere with your work. And they should have apologies for overworking Big Macintosh. But this problem you get with the 22 minutes time restraint they have to work with.
It like I'm still waiting for them to explained how Celestia got a hold of Spike's egg and what happen to his parents.
5067846 Me too. Wasn't Point of Return terrible, but wasn't exactly good either. Moral sort of went all over the place, but hey, at least we have more clues to when AJ's parents died. To count it off:
Pear Butter did not die at childbirth, putting a stomp on any theories that she did.
AJ doesn't have her cutiemark at the time of the memory, but Big Mac does. Maybe the parents died before she left to Manehattan.
Applebloom was too young to walk, so she is probably around 1 year old.
Honestly, this is most likely going ot be the season's weakest episode. It's not a terrible episode, but nothing that great either. The concept isn't bad, but I feel this kind of episode would be more suited to a CMC episode; not one involving the Apple family. It has its moments of sweetness, and I always enjoy seeing one of the CMC bonding with their sister. Seeing more of Applejack's childhood and Bright Mac and Pear Butter was good. However, as far as Apple family centered episodes go, this was the worst one yet.
The plot itself is predictable, but not done in a fun way like with Frenemies. The writing is pretty bad with some moments of the Apple family being out of character. This is especially true with how unconcerned the family is about how Big Mac is. He's obviously tired, but they don't care at all. Speaking of which, it wasn't that hard to figure out Big Mac was the Seedling as we see him so tired that it was easy to make the connection very early on.
The Seedling itself isn't explained very well. We know what it can do, but nothing else beyond that or how the legend started. Goldie Delicious, while an enjoyable character, is just there to get the plot going, and I feel that she was making stuff up as she goes. It would've helped had she said she saw the Seedling as a kid, but all we know is that Goldie says there are "stories" about it. Nothing else. There's also some inconsistencies in this episode. For example, the Apple sisters are excited to catch the Seedling, but then get scared when trying to get it and act like it's going to kill them when they go check the traps.
Perhaps my biggest problem with this episode is that it's so boring. Honestly, I struggled to watch this episode as there was nothing going on at all. It screams "massive filler" and it really shows. This is an episode where if you skipped it, you really wouldn't miss anything at all. It's going really nothing that stands out aside from the Seedling design and the flashback scene.
I've seen worse episodes of the show, but this one is just really boring and rather unneeded. Certainly not an awful episode, but not one that I want to go back and see again. Just a boring episode all around, and not something worth seeing again.
5 minutes in, I was sure I was going to HAAAATE this episode. I figured there was only two ways this would play out:
A) Applejack gets way too angry at Applebloom, forcing a lesson onto her about letting kids be kids (basically a worse version of Hey Arnold's Snow episode). Or B) Applebloom was going to be screwing up the entire harvest operation by refusing to work, and laying traps that "comedically" wreck everything. THEN Applejack blows up at her, but instead of being justified, the episode would paint her as the villain for wanting to keep her farm afloat.
But to a heady mix of relief and wasted dread, the two sisters have a totally natural conversation about it, and Applejack has a totally reasonable, responsible edict as Applebloom's authority figure: help us do the work, and then I'll help you with your hobby. So there's that disaster averted. That's a good example to set, but I like this episode beyond "it didn't suck."
Instead of trying to play this as a grade school-level mystery story, by the middle the audience is plenty clued in that this is being caused by Big Mac. The emotional heart is the sisters being together, and being happier for it. Applejack knows how to have fun, but this is her reconnecting with her childhood. Watching AJ & AB trying to defy their sleep schedule reminded me of when I stayed up late at home for the first time with my Dad, or the 'powwows' at Indian Guides. Reconnecting with your inner child isn't reliving things that you've outgrown. That's closer to a nostalgia trip, and what Rarity was trying to recapture in Forever Filly. Being childlike is doing things that pointless, and probably going to accomplish nothing for material gain.
This was an odd one. There are a few genuine bonding moments between Applejack and Applebloom. But Applejack's sudden switch in enthusiasm at the mid-point is jarring. Plus the ending feels indecisive.
5067926 Great review. I did not really look at it that way, but you're right, the predictability of Big Mac being the culprit does not really matter, as the episode is about the sisters.
Season 8 and 9 are kind of the seasons of opposing morals to what came before. This one is basically the opposite of "Forever Filly", dealing with the same problem but with a separate resolution. Instead of "you need to understand that your children are growing up and putting away childish things", it's "it's okay to have 'childish' interests after you're an adult". Which is interesting, I don't really see it as "conflicting morals" so much as "one ideal doesn't fit every single circumstance, because people are different." This one is probably more applicable to bronies in particular, to be honest. I liked it, but it didn't really "do" much for me otherwise.
I guess I can see how it would put naughty thoughts in someone's head, but by actual definition, "going to seed" basically means you're becoming too old for something you used to do. Which is a fitting title for this one, since it's about Applejack thinking she's too old for something she loves.
I did feel kind of sorry for poor Big Mac in this episode, and it was really nice to see the parents have a brief cameo. Applejack and Applebloom having fun together was adorable although I found it a little jarring that AJ would be so quick to ditch her work to pursue something that only a day ago she was claiming didn’t exist, but it doesn’t take away too much from the episode.
It’s a fun and harmless episode really, as of so far it’s the weakest of the season but if it stays that way for the entirety that really isn’t a bad thing as it’s still a good episode regardless.
5067983 That would have been nice although considering she is an apprentice for Mrs Cake I’d imagine she is pretty busy. You could also argue that Grand Pear could also have helped a bit.
It's not a bad episode by any means, but it really feels like an Apple Bloom episode that was told late on that it had to be an Applejack episode at the same time. This is just me, but it could have worked out far better if the focus was AB being torn between desire to catch the Great Seedling and the justified need to keep on top of the harvest (which tbh, kinda felt glazed over and painted AJ in a bad light), slowly easing Applejack into the idea after the flashback (always a plus point to see Bright and Pear again) and her ultimately admitting that she never lost that same desire. Would lead into the same third act but with a more natural flow to the moral, and no need for Goldie Delicious (seriously, this episode would have worked perfectly well without her).
Again, I stress it's not a bad episode, but it's saying something when a more experienced writer can't match up to Kim Beyer-Johnson. And this is coming from someone who thought Sweet and Smoky was kind of iffy too.
Ah, now the Spirit of the Forest IDW miniseries makes sense, where it repurposes the Great Seedling and shifts the focus to the CMC (and remembering Diamond Tiara exists)
It's been a while, but this episode made me go "Awwwwwww!" throughout the entirety of it. It was like I was getting sugar injected into my veins with how adorable this whole thing was.
This was a pretty medium episode for me. On the one hand, it contained more Applejack than I tend to like in an episode, but it did have a lot of Apple Bloom being adorable.
I would have liked to see more interaction between Apple Bloom and Goldie Delicious. Goldie was kind of whiplashed around the episode as exposition source, early false suspect, and comic relief. As others mentioned, I would have liked her presence in the episode more if she had (at least claimed to have) seen the spirit when she was a filly. Simply having heard stories about it takes away some of the magic of the setting. This is the same setting in which Zap Apples are a real, magical thing and Granny Smith's cooky ritual is actually effective.
I wasn't especially bothered by AJ's turnabout in the third act. It felt a bit like she was "hiding/suppressing" her belief in the spirit, having convinced herself it wasn't real. But when she was convinced it might be real, she gave in and participated with Apple Bloom. This is the sort of non-stubborn Applejack I'd like to see more of. Especially if it involves cooky, weird magical stuff in Equestria. Apple-centric episodes like this one that focuses on family dynamics rather than trying to play Applejack as the stubborn quasi-racist/traditionalist vs others makes for a more pleasant experience.
This is not, by any stretch of the imagination, going to be my favorite episode of the season, Apple-episode, or anything of the sort. It was a middling Apple Bloom episode. But it does feel like a good rise upwards from last week's trainwreck.
I liked this episode. It was nice to see another episode focused on the Apple family, and I liked that we got to see Goldie again as well. I also liked that we got to see Bright Mac and Pear Butter for a few brief flashbacks, and it was interesting to see some worldbuilding about a possible new magical creature.
5068180 It's a joke from the very first Discworld story, but it gets revisited in Unseen Academicals, in which the wizards are trying to put together a football (soccer) team:
A hand went up. Ridcully sought the attached face.
"Ah, Rincewind," he said, and, because he was not a determinedly unpleasant man, amended this to, "Professor Rincewind, of course."
"I would like permission to fetch a note from my mother, sir."
Ridcully sighed. "Rincewind, you once informed me, to my everlasting puzzlement, that you never knew your mother because she ran away before you were born. Distinctly remember writing it down in my diary. Would you like another try?"
This was a fairly average episode. The "Great Seedling" was an interesting creature, we got a brief flashback cameo from Bright Mac and Pear Butter, and it was good to see more sisterly bonding between Applejack and Apple Bloom. But otherwise, there wasn't much to this story. Nothing groundbreaking, but still watchable.
Sometimes the availability (or lack thereof) of Flash assets makes scenes sadder than perhaps the animators intended them. To wit:
When Applejack decided to leave the farm as a filly to go to Manehattan, we didn't see her parents. Granted, this is because those characters hadn't been established yet, but it's been my headcanon that the reason she wanted to leave in the first place was because her parents had recently died and being on the farm hurt too much.
In the flashback in this episode, Applejack and Big Mac are the same ages as they were during that "Cutie Mark Chronicles" scene.
Therefore, it's easy to come to the conclusion that not only did Applejack miss the majority of the harvest due to being stuck in the hole, she missed the majority of what would be the final major harvest with her parents. No wonder she doesn't want Apple Bloom wasting her time on it!
Now, I'm not sure whether that subtext was intended in the flashback, but it sure makes it a lot more poignant. And when the flashback dissolves back to the present, the face that Applejack makes... well, we already know that she cries on the inside.
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This wasn't the best episode, really. It's one of those myth episodes with an ambiguous ending. At least we see more of Big Macintosh's strength.
Damn. Mac needs All the coffee.
An adorably fun episode.
And more Big Mac is never a bad thing.
Ever.
A so-so episode this time.
Harmless fun, a little mythical word building, and confirmation that Apple Bloom was in fact born before the Apple parents died. Nothing amazing, but definitely better than some episodes. ("Non-Compete Clause," I'm looking at you.)
What's the magical creature of this episode?EDIT: the Great Seedling, if it we're real, looks like it could be some manner of dryad or spriggan (at least that's my first impression).
Eh
This was a fun romp on the farm. And that flashback made me feel so much feelings.
...
Okay, I know we're a bunch of adults who enjoy a kid's cartoon, but we don't enjoy it for the same reasons a kid would. What could've been a relatable episode just barely missed the mark.
This one was quite banal. I like the concept of being mature not meaning you have to give up stuff you like, but the buildup wasn't worth the payoff. When Applejack immediately bought into the myth in the third act, everything just kinda faltered. It would've been better if she continued playing pretend, not just to appease Apple Bloom, but because she herself was having fun. And she could in turn impart that wisdom unto Apple Bloom. That would've made for a great episode. Instead, it was just pedestrian. What a shame.
I figured it was Big Mac due to how tired he looked on day 3.
It was just a cute little episode, a very middle-of-the-road one, and one I won’t pin up there. However, I enjoyed it nevertheless.
5067848 When you put it like that, then yes, it is a more decent episode.
A fun little romp with a message that growing up doesn’t have to mean giving up—as in giving up your youthful sense of adventure and mystique. More Big Mac is always welcome.
I like how this episode show that you shouldn't stop enjoying something even if people disagree. There some people out there that think once you grow-up that you can't enjoy cartoons, video games, Santa Claus, or Halloween.
I disagree about the Great Seedling helping the Apples out after they captured him. From studying mythology, most fey being/creatures would be angry and vengeful if try to captured them or interfere with their work. Most like the Great Seedling help to ensure a bountiful harvest as gratitude to the Apples for taking great care of the lands.
Now just three episode left until the season break.
5067848 ... as opposed to Rincewind, whose mother ran away and abandoned him two years before he was born?
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I think they're refering to the theory that Apple Bloom was either adopted or is the incest child of Big Macintosh and Applejack.
Okey I like that the AppleJack get to bond over something . I feel the message need a few kinks. Like say you have something you like but don’t let your responsibilities slip. Like saying Apple Bloom to buck a few trees. While setting up traps . But no AppleJack felt guilty for having to not helping as a filly. But then poor Big Mac ended up doing most the work. And nobody felt sorry for him, and even said sorry .
Also we actually saw Apple Bloom as a baby while the parents are alive that’s good.
5067873
Whose Rincewind?
5067885
Rincewind
I agree with you about that Applejack should have let Apple Bloom know it okay to have a hobby as long as it doesn't interfere with your work. And they should have apologies for overworking Big Macintosh. But this problem you get with the 22 minutes time restraint they have to work with.
It like I'm still waiting for them to explained how Celestia got a hold of Spike's egg and what happen to his parents.
5067846
Me too. Wasn't Point of Return terrible, but wasn't exactly good either. Moral sort of went all over the place, but hey, at least we have more clues to when AJ's parents died. To count it off:
Honestly, this is most likely going ot be the season's weakest episode. It's not a terrible episode, but nothing that great either. The concept isn't bad, but I feel this kind of episode would be more suited to a CMC episode; not one involving the Apple family. It has its moments of sweetness, and I always enjoy seeing one of the CMC bonding with their sister. Seeing more of Applejack's childhood and Bright Mac and Pear Butter was good. However, as far as Apple family centered episodes go, this was the worst one yet.
The plot itself is predictable, but not done in a fun way like with Frenemies. The writing is pretty bad with some moments of the Apple family being out of character. This is especially true with how unconcerned the family is about how Big Mac is. He's obviously tired, but they don't care at all. Speaking of which, it wasn't that hard to figure out Big Mac was the Seedling as we see him so tired that it was easy to make the connection very early on.
The Seedling itself isn't explained very well. We know what it can do, but nothing else beyond that or how the legend started. Goldie Delicious, while an enjoyable character, is just there to get the plot going, and I feel that she was making stuff up as she goes. It would've helped had she said she saw the Seedling as a kid, but all we know is that Goldie says there are "stories" about it. Nothing else. There's also some inconsistencies in this episode. For example, the Apple sisters are excited to catch the Seedling, but then get scared when trying to get it and act like it's going to kill them when they go check the traps.
Perhaps my biggest problem with this episode is that it's so boring. Honestly, I struggled to watch this episode as there was nothing going on at all. It screams "massive filler" and it really shows. This is an episode where if you skipped it, you really wouldn't miss anything at all. It's going really nothing that stands out aside from the Seedling design and the flashback scene.
I've seen worse episodes of the show, but this one is just really boring and rather unneeded. Certainly not an awful episode, but not one that I want to go back and see again. Just a boring episode all around, and not something worth seeing again.
It was good to see Bright Mac and Pear Butter again. Otherwise this episode was pretty meh.
5 minutes in, I was sure I was going to HAAAATE this episode. I figured there was only two ways this would play out:
A) Applejack gets way too angry at Applebloom, forcing a lesson onto her about letting kids be kids (basically a worse version of Hey Arnold's Snow episode). Or B) Applebloom was going to be screwing up the entire harvest operation by refusing to work, and laying traps that "comedically" wreck everything. THEN Applejack blows up at her, but instead of being justified, the episode would paint her as the villain for wanting to keep her farm afloat.
But to a heady mix of relief and wasted dread, the two sisters have a totally natural conversation about it, and Applejack has a totally reasonable, responsible edict as Applebloom's authority figure: help us do the work, and then I'll help you with your hobby. So there's that disaster averted. That's a good example to set, but I like this episode beyond "it didn't suck."
Instead of trying to play this as a grade school-level mystery story, by the middle the audience is plenty clued in that this is being caused by Big Mac. The emotional heart is the sisters being together, and being happier for it. Applejack knows how to have fun, but this is her reconnecting with her childhood. Watching AJ & AB trying to defy their sleep schedule reminded me of when I stayed up late at home for the first time with my Dad, or the 'powwows' at Indian Guides. Reconnecting with your inner child isn't reliving things that you've outgrown. That's closer to a nostalgia trip, and what Rarity was trying to recapture in Forever Filly. Being childlike is doing things that pointless, and probably going to accomplish nothing for material gain.
This was an odd one. There are a few genuine bonding moments between Applejack and Applebloom. But Applejack's sudden switch in enthusiasm at the mid-point is jarring. Plus the ending feels indecisive.
Overall an okay episode, though.
5067926
Great review. I did not really look at it that way, but you're right, the predictability of Big Mac being the culprit does not really matter, as the episode is about the sisters.
This was an episode about trying to capture a Pokemon
It was a fun episode even if filler.
I dont watch anymore, but that Episode Title leaves.... thoughts.
Season 8 and 9 are kind of the seasons of opposing morals to what came before. This one is basically the opposite of "Forever Filly", dealing with the same problem but with a separate resolution. Instead of "you need to understand that your children are growing up and putting away childish things", it's "it's okay to have 'childish' interests after you're an adult". Which is interesting, I don't really see it as "conflicting morals" so much as "one ideal doesn't fit every single circumstance, because people are different." This one is probably more applicable to bronies in particular, to be honest. I liked it, but it didn't really "do" much for me otherwise.
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I guess I can see how it would put naughty thoughts in someone's head, but by actual definition, "going to seed" basically means you're becoming too old for something you used to do. Which is a fitting title for this one, since it's about Applejack thinking she's too old for something she loves.
Stares at these comments
I liked the episode.
https://derpibooru.org/2055557?q=going+to+seed
I did feel kind of sorry for poor Big Mac in this episode, and it was really nice to see the parents have a brief cameo. Applejack and Applebloom having fun together was adorable although I found it a little jarring that AJ would be so quick to ditch her work to pursue something that only a day ago she was claiming didn’t exist, but it doesn’t take away too much from the episode.
It’s a fun and harmless episode really, as of so far it’s the weakest of the season but if it stays that way for the entirety that really isn’t a bad thing as it’s still a good episode regardless.
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That would have been nice although considering she is an apprentice for Mrs Cake I’d imagine she is pretty busy. You could also argue that Grand Pear could also have helped a bit.
Nice little episode if you ask me. Not one of the best of the season IMO, but it wasn't bad either.
It's not a bad episode by any means, but it really feels like an Apple Bloom episode that was told late on that it had to be an Applejack episode at the same time. This is just me, but it could have worked out far better if the focus was AB being torn between desire to catch the Great Seedling and the justified need to keep on top of the harvest (which tbh, kinda felt glazed over and painted AJ in a bad light), slowly easing Applejack into the idea after the flashback (always a plus point to see Bright and Pear again) and her ultimately admitting that she never lost that same desire. Would lead into the same third act but with a more natural flow to the moral, and no need for Goldie Delicious (seriously, this episode would have worked perfectly well without her).
Again, I stress it's not a bad episode, but it's saying something when a more experienced writer can't match up to Kim Beyer-Johnson. And this is coming from someone who thought Sweet and Smoky was kind of iffy too.
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I wouldn’t say I like it, just that I didn’t hate it.
Those are two very different things.
Ah, now the Spirit of the Forest IDW miniseries makes sense, where it repurposes the Great Seedling and shifts the focus to the CMC (and remembering Diamond Tiara exists)
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Is that really something that happened? I know nothing about what happens in Discworld.
It's been a while, but this episode made me go "Awwwwwww!" throughout the entirety of it. It was like I was getting sugar injected into my veins with how adorable this whole thing was.
This was a pretty medium episode for me. On the one hand, it contained more Applejack than I tend to like in an episode, but it did have a lot of Apple Bloom being adorable.
I would have liked to see more interaction between Apple Bloom and Goldie Delicious. Goldie was kind of whiplashed around the episode as exposition source, early false suspect, and comic relief. As others mentioned, I would have liked her presence in the episode more if she had (at least claimed to have) seen the spirit when she was a filly. Simply having heard stories about it takes away some of the magic of the setting. This is the same setting in which Zap Apples are a real, magical thing and Granny Smith's cooky ritual is actually effective.
I wasn't especially bothered by AJ's turnabout in the third act. It felt a bit like she was "hiding/suppressing" her belief in the spirit, having convinced herself it wasn't real. But when she was convinced it might be real, she gave in and participated with Apple Bloom. This is the sort of non-stubborn Applejack I'd like to see more of. Especially if it involves cooky, weird magical stuff in Equestria. Apple-centric episodes like this one that focuses on family dynamics rather than trying to play Applejack as the stubborn quasi-racist/traditionalist vs others makes for a more pleasant experience.
This is not, by any stretch of the imagination, going to be my favorite episode of the season, Apple-episode, or anything of the sort. It was a middling Apple Bloom episode. But it does feel like a good rise upwards from last week's trainwreck.
man Applejack's come a long way from "HUSH NOW LET THE BIG PONIES TALK XD"
I liked this episode. It was nice to see another episode focused on the Apple family, and I liked that we got to see Goldie again as well. I also liked that we got to see Bright Mac and Pear Butter for a few brief flashbacks, and it was interesting to see some worldbuilding about a possible new magical creature.
Needs more snuggles... try again.
After this episode, Big Mac deserves 2 days off for all of his work on the harvest.
5068180 It's a joke from the very first Discworld story, but it gets revisited in Unseen Academicals, in which the wizards are trying to put together a football (soccer) team:
This was a fairly average episode. The "Great Seedling" was an interesting creature, we got a brief flashback cameo from Bright Mac and Pear Butter, and it was good to see more sisterly bonding between Applejack and Apple Bloom. But otherwise, there wasn't much to this story. Nothing groundbreaking, but still watchable.
There really wasn't much to say about this episode. I mean, it was downright adorable, but that's about it, not that that's a bad thing.
Such a sweet episode. Was nice to see where Mac got his yoke from, makes all the more special.
Interesting topic in this episode: the perspective of children vs. adults. Not sure they've covered this one before.
Sometimes the availability (or lack thereof) of Flash assets makes scenes sadder than perhaps the animators intended them. To wit:
Now, I'm not sure whether that subtext was intended in the flashback, but it sure makes it a lot more poignant. And when the flashback dissolves back to the present, the face that Applejack makes... well, we already know that she cries on the inside.