Dec
19th
2018
FoxWulf Convergence, or On Goblinslaying · 6:43pm Dec 19th, 2018
ScarletWeather and I have kicked around the idea of podcasting for awhile now. I mean, after all, I already have one! (Link in bio!!) so as we were working on a collab blog, I had the idea to record it as a trial run. The audio is mostly unedited and I’m not using my Snowball mic, but it’s worth listening to. It’s about Goblin Slayer, a controversial anime I happen to really like.... with a massive asterisk.
Cw: mentions of sexual/gendered violence
Here’s our transcript kinda, but with fewer jokes!
Here’s the recording! AliceWulf and ScarletFox talk about the anime Goblin Slayer.
The woofs have been doubled!
I feel like one of the only people on the internet who knows about this show and also doesn't like it. I have legitimately found far more videos on YouTube unequivocally praising it rather than criticizing it, and that includes praising the rape scene in the first episode.
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Which surprises me, as my experience has mostly been the exact opposite apart from Mother's Basement.
This is very confusing (I'm listening now) because it starts off sounding like you both really hate it and it's bad and no one should watch it, but that's not your thesis c.c
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the first episode is that bad.
Also it was jokes silly, lol
It is a good anime. Love the tabletop DnD feel of it.
The show gives a decent understanding behind the characters motivations. Also a fair bit a mystery around his training.
Skimmed your transcript, I pretty much agree with it.
Given all the hype and talk about this show and it's first ep, I expected something much worse and graphic.
The first ep does a good job of showing how harsh their world is, and how fast anime girls are at getting over traumatic experiences.
Other then that I didnt see what was so controversial. I have seen far worse in other anime.
Just shows the audience has little experience with the darker side of anime.
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lol I've seen worse. The existence of worse doesn't really erase the intentional rape-as-tittilation aspect. It's not a matter of being all "oh no I'm too weak for this" it's a matter of tired, lazy story telling. Using rape as a catch all to avoid having to explain wy your evil dudes are actually evil is a crutch. It's a lazy and boring use of extremely gendered violence to prop up a creator's inability or refusal to critically engage with their own work 9 times out of 10.w
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I agree... they're horrific beings
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People are terrible. That should be clear to you by now.
Agree entirely
Again, pointing to Berserk again, what happened to Casca is the least of the evils Griffith performed. The worst of it, and perhaps what made it a much more upsetting scene then Goblin Slayer, was the intention of it. It was done as an afterthought. He did it to specifically hurt Gut's then any particular interest in the act itself.
Don't get me wrong, such scenes should be upsetting. But yes, I agree, Goblin Slayers writers did it more for da dramaz then anything. Hell, I've heard people being more traumatized with the baby goblins killing then anything due to the stupidity and unlikeability of the venturing party
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Ehh....
fair enough
First off... Berserk. And secondly, its goes to show the immaturity of the modern watcher really. Like we can't touch certain topics, not because of any concerns over sensitivity or a need to touch such topics with care, but because it shouldn't be done except to further some personal vendetta or political malfeasance.
DOES ANYONE READ GRIMM FAIRY TALES ANYMORE!
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Which Berserk? Ive watched the OG anime and it's one of my top favorite's. That anime handled everything it did pretty well and to good effect.
When it comes to GRIMM ive read the stories. I also have several book collections that have first/second/third versions of many of the stories. The difference between the early works and the versions that came about much later is stark. And there so much better.
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The one that didn't have the teams working in three different groups and run by a retarded gibbon in the advanced stages of syphalis and also was working in a form of entertainment he had no experience in, the worthless fat slug.
As too Grimm, I think we should re release the first versions. It should be instilled from the word go that children can and will perish at any moment and furthermore we adults will put them into said situation with glee
So uh. It's later. I read that transcript, and I was intrigued.
I just finished watching Goblin Slayer, and I have to say I enjoyed it. Its charm is best described, I think, by how the Goblin Slayer is already being sung of by bards a few towns over, and that when learning of this, he doesn't understand why anyone would do such a thing.
I can't say I found the first episode particularly shocking. If anything made me uncomfortable in the show it was that bit around the midpoint where the Sword Maiden, ruler of the water town goes on this spiel about how women are weak and need to be protected in general, and the show seems to subscribe to this view, and yet also doesn't. Like there are always women in distress that need saving, but also the heroes that are defeating the demon lord right now are also women, and also half the adventurers guild? Like the setting has to have this attitude but none of the actual characters do? I dunno.
Oh yeah, and Rightfully is a banger.
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We didn't get to the sword maiden as much in this, but I agree. That whole sentiment, while not exactly borne out by the rest of the show, is just a bizarre moment of weird-ass patriarchal propaganda. IT's weird on so many levels. It just slides off the rest of the show for one, as well as the Goblin Slayer himself to an extent.