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FYI: ToonKriticY2K, getting this out there, please repost this blog where you can. Linkspam it, folks. (trigger warning: filthy pedo scum, creepiness, please watch carefully) · 11:20pm Jan 29th, 2018
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#ToonKriticY2K
#drama
#please spread the word
#this is never okay
#if this happened to you please tell someone because it is never your fault
#pedo scum
#trigger warning
#important
#blag
#icestarpony
#serious stuff
#this is illegal you dipshits
#youtube videos
#if you know someone who is doing this they are terrible and you should tell someone
#psa folks
#just send the damn link to anybody
It is very dangerous for us to have people like this in our fandom especially since we share a hobby with lots of children and will inevitably come into contact with them.
We need to do our best to self-police and make sure that predatory people don't get our support. And I know that sounds very difficult to do, because "how would you know?" But if we take this particular example:
-toonkritic had been reported harassing and groping women at cons years ago
-his friends and his fans made excuses for him or just ignored it.
So inevitably something like this was going to happen where he'd go "too far" even for them. We let it happen, and we can't let it happen again.
4784707
I recall there being a few people on fimfic who follow/followed similar patterns: a pedo creep who advocated incest and his sick attraction to children being legalized, people with children who write foalcon, another writer who is incapable of defining consent and understanding why rape is indeed no laughing matter, and many more.
It really fucking sucks.
*winces* Some underage fantasies are just fantasy and have nothing to do with real children in any way.
Ya see, in Texas, we have a solution for people like this.
It's called a 12 gauge.
4784764
Same in Wyoming.
4784707
Agreed.
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4784766
Let me tell ya something... life and every perception you have changes when someone in the family becomes a parent. I've only been an Uncle for about 18 months, and even then I don't think I've spent more than a sum total of 5 hours with my niece, but I'll tell you what:
If I EVER see some fucking creep like that try to make ANY kind of move on her, I'd smash their heads into the ground and break his arms and legs before breaking his jaw and force him to choke on his own severed balls.
4784777
I have been an uncle for 6 years and I get very protective when anyone gets near my nieces I have three of them and I live with them. So if anyone is around them. I get very protective to the point I don't even trust friends of my brother and sister in law.
I differentiate fictional underage from real life with one simple acronym: RCAFG
Real Children Are Fucking Gross.
Pardon my language but i don't even want my HANDS near a child, let alone my sensitive parts.
4784727
And that's what's sticking with me. I'd taken a 'live and let live' approach to the whole practice of foalcon my entire time in this fandom. I came in with that opinion on it already: in high school, I had friends who were into cub art, which is the furry equivalent to foalcon. I figured, it's not real child porn, it's a victimless crime, so who does it hurt? What's really horrifying to me is, what if that allowance of foalcon is part of why Toon thought no one would care about what he was doing, part of why he wasn't worried about consequences? Does it send the message that creeping on kids is okay, whether or not we actually think it is?
4784809
There's a lot one can debate about where the line should be drawn. And there's a reason I have no published underage stories, I'm not entirely sure where that line is either and I've so far erred on the side of caution. But the flat out grouping of "people with children who write foalcon" with people advocating for legalizing sex with children and outright rapists really bothers me.
Having a kid does not magically make you a non-sexual being. It doesn't make your kinks and your fetishes go away. And being into certain kinds of fantasy or age play has nothing whatsoever to do with real children in any way.
4784820
Of course, of course. That I certainly didn't mean to imply.
4784777
Preach it, brother! As a father of two myself I can attest to the same notion.
What a horrible manipulative person.
Its scary to see people trying to defend this person. I've seen a few of his episodes, and I've never even heard of these reports until later last week. To see people trying to 'soften the blow' and sweep it under a rug so to speak is frightening.
Ya they talked about that during a couple of live streams of Radio Molly Live.
4784720
That it does.
4784785
I agree. Nothing wrong with a cartoon. The real thing though... it's just gross.
4784809
People should know better, though. It's their fault if they choose to act upon such urges. Toonkritic should be punished for acting on such urges.
to be honest and i may be a dick i forgive him you can say i forgive too easily but if you don't you won't have peace with yourself and yes i'm too optimistic so what i'm me
4784988
Don't forgive him. You shouldn't just forgive but you can accept. Its not as bad as it is being shown by most tubers. But outright forgiving him is not kindness or optimism. Its something much worse. Justice must be served and he shouldn't be given forgiveness for manipulating his friends and that 16-17 year old! This could've ended badly and if we just forgive and forget we'll be the bad guys. We can accept what he has done and we will judge him for it. But we can't just outright forgive so he will be shackled by his evil deeds. But really forgiving evil is taking his side and placing yourself against the victim allowing it to just be covered up like in holly wood and some of his minor abuses! No, forgiving is out of the question. He's been forgiven before, and noe he has gotten worse. If we hadn't forgiven, if we hadn't let it slide, this wouldn't have happened. He wouldn't be a pedophile! So really, it everyone's fault for forgiving. In some cases forgiveness isn't kindness my friend but an easier form of a very wicked deed.
4785012
still i can't not forgive him god says forgive everyone and i rather not piss off the man upstairs some unexplainable things happened to me or people around me
4784987
Of course he should. He's an abusive creep. Did I imply otherwise? Citing larger cultural reasons that may have contributed to his wrongful actions doesn't take the personal responsibility off of him. I only mean to express my worry that he was enabled by our foalcon permissive culture, whether we meant to enable or not. I'm not even trying to say that's definitely part of it, I'm saying I'm not sure, but I'm really worried that it might be.
4785055
Hope not. I'm a kinky bitch and am a fan of some foalcon. But, I am capable of separating fantasy from reality, so I'm not gonna become a scumbag like Toonkritic.
4784809
First off the victim was 16/17 years old so it's not technically pedophilia, it is however right on level with possible statutory rape, sexual harassment, assault etc. and is deeply wrong...but it has nothing to do with foalcon.
The guy is legitimately just a creep of the lowest kind, and what he was doing was not legal or approved, becasue he was dealing with reality, not fiction.
Fantasy is fantasy, fiction is fiction, there is no crime when there is no actual person being harmed. So unless he is claiming diminished capacity (to not recognize right vs. wrong, reality from fantasy) that doesn't hold water.
4785067
Correction, one of his victims was around 17. The most recent girl, the case for which his friends went to the police, was only 14.
For accuracy's sake, I must point out that depending on where you live, simulated and/or fictional child porn, like foalcon art and stories, may carry the same charge as porn of actual children.
But more relevant, that was not my point. I'm not suggesting that looking at foalcon directly resulted in Toon actually not understanding that what he was doing was wrong, I'm suggesting much more tenuous of a connection, but a connection nonetheless. Our culture (meaning bronies) allows foalcon, treating it as harmless, as have I. To some people, it's a fine line between enjoying foalcon and ageplay ERP, something also considered harmless. But what Toon did, ERP with a child, has been argued as 'harmless' in a similar way because he's not actually touching her. And it's another small step from erotic roleplaying with her to asking her for pictures, yet another to suggesting that they meet up, and he took those steps one by one. When we're quietly permissive of something and we do not go out of our way to impress on everyone where the line is, abusive people are free to push that line.
Now, I've been thinking about this for the last several hours since I left that comment. I want to restate that fantasies are very different from what someone wants in real life, and the porn they enjoy doesn't necessarily offer any insight into what they intend to do with another person. I know that a lot of people enjoy foalcon without the slightest sexual interest in real kids. And, though it's uncomfortable to say, it's worth noting that there are a lot of non-offending pedophiles who are attracted to kids, but have no intention of acting on it. I think it's on people who create foalcon and people who consume it to make it known that this is strictly fantasy; let there be as little possibility as possible of permitting (including silently permitting) acting this way with a real child. Assuming that it goes without saying is not safe enough. To people like ToonKritic, people who are looking for justification and excuses to do the abusive shit that they want to, looking for an environment where they think they'd get away with it, a culture that permits open fantasy of sexually abusing kids looks like exactly that.
I personally Find lily peet’s view on this interesting. I haven’t been in the fandom long enough to know if the other stories are 100% true, but I do know that lily has always been very passionate and blunt about these things. This isn’t an exception.
4785179
I tried to find as many different perspectives as I could on this.
4785397
That’s generally a good way to go.
This person is an asshole.
He reminds me of my ex boyfriend from the description, only my ex degraded me and talked down to me and i took it seriously. Now I refuse to speak to or hear from him. I've been getting a lot better emotionally since then.
4785085
But the Victim(s) is/are still real living people who exist in reality...there is someone real being harmed, and again there is a charge for this...it's called corrupting a minor. In fiction there is no actual person being harmed, a non existent character who is not real outside fantasy and fabrication...
Again by this same criteria, can authors who write about murder be arrested and or charged for supporting real life serial killers becasue they give them a perspective and credence in their fiction?
If you write about terrorism in morally grey lines, can you be said to be giving justification for and defending actual terrorists?
or is fiction fantasy, and people have to take actual personal responsibility for their own actions? Hmm...what an actual concept... (this is not meant to be snarky by the way, it's just a general lament)
The actual law impresses the line. And to be honest abusive/degenerate people will push the line regardless, cause they have an actual problem and or mental issue and can't help themselves...if it was a one time thing perhaps you could argue he was being stupid or made a mistake etc. but his record clearly demonstrates a pattern of systematic behavior which is a sign of something far more permanent and dire...
This i agree with, since all in all it would only take a small specific disclaimer on such works to indicate this is for fantasy only...
But again the problem falls back on "thought policing," You can put up as much tape and disclaimers as you want, it won't stop an actual predator becasue they don't need justification from others...they will justify it to themselves because they have very serious issues...it's the same thing with schizophrenics...the voices usually convince and or get them to do what the voices tell them to...Again an accusation is one thing, actual evidence is another.
The issue is how to tell someone whose a serious predator from someone who just has an odd kink that they don't wish to act on in real life...the only real answer is if they display and or have a record of behavior...contact authorities, the mods, and etc. or warn others away...
4785632
Side note to start:
I'm about 99% sure that's not at all how schizophrenia works and that that's a terrible example.
But returning to our discussion.
As a matter of fact, they can have legal consequences brought against them in particular cases. If an author writes about someone committing a terrible crime in a story that frames what they've done as okay, they certainly can be accused of advocating these things, and whatever consequences come with doing so. They may not be as severe as actually being arrested on charges of committing that crime outright, but there are some.
Okay, let me try this again. I'm not talking about justification. I'm not saying he couldn't understand what he was doing was wrong. He very much could. What abusive people need, and I know this from experience, is to believe that there won't be consequences. That they will be allowed to do what they do, that they'll have people on their side who won't put a stop to their behaviour. And Toon believed that no one would get in his way or report him. Part of why he believed this, certainly, was because he'd gotten away with his creepy abusive shit in other cases before his most recent 14-year-old, and his friends did not stop him. You cannot truthfully say that there's nothing that can be done to stop people from doing the kind of shit he was doing, which is what it sounds like you're saying. There is. It just took far too long for anyone to do it.
But what I'm suggesting is that others may believe they'll have support in their abuse of children because there's such vocal support of foalcon. And I'd like to remind you, there's a lot of foalcon that does not read like it's only harmless fantasy. I've come across several stories on this site that frame a sexual relationship between an adult and a child as consensual and right. I've come across tragic stories where a child molester was brought to justice, and the readers were upset that they couldn't live happily ever after with their underage victim. In other words, stories that are in deliberate support of child molestation getting a pass or even rewarded in our community. How can you say that this doesn't help create an atmosphere where people like Toon thought he could get away with what he was doing? He and others like him may not need to be told they have the right of it, but they do need an environment where they won't be stopped, and this sure as hell looks like that environment. It looks like a community that thinks they should be allowed to prey on kids, because, hi, there's a ton of stories in which the moral is 'Look at this child molester and their child victim, their love is beautiful and good'.
So does this take all the responsibility off of Toon, mean he's an innocent victim of our toxic culture and he couldn't control himself? Of course not, he bears full responsibility for his actions. Does this mean that it's all the fault of foalcon writers, they're all on the side of would-be child molesters and there's no line between fantasy and reality? No, and stop putting those words in my mouth. But does it mean we've become a culture that implies predatory behaviour will be tolerated, regardless of whether that was the intention? I would say, yes. If it's just a fantasy, and not flat-out sexual abuse advocacy as some of it reads, that needs to be said.
That's not good enough. There's no prevention there. And that most certainly is not the 'only real answer'. Don't pretend that we are helpless against people who want to use our spaces to hurt kids. The very bare minimum of a place we can start is dispel this impression that we would permit someone to do so, that our community has anything but horror for someone who would actually do any of this in real life. What's more, we can improve our action against sexual abuse in general. The very fact that ToonKritic has defenders, the very fact that he got away with all he did before this, shows that we are far too socially permissive of abuse.
4785023
I'm pretty sure god doesn't require forgiveness of all but at the bare minimum acceptance. No spite or anger or petty hatred. Forgiveness must first be earned or standards shall fall and we will make e world into a hell around us.
4785632
Tech ically he tried to erp but he was rejected when the attempt was made. They only normal rp and after the erp attempt further roleplay was avoided by the victim.
4785740
Thats also true i just don’t want another bad thing to happen to me
4785765
Well your making it happen easier and faster. Forgiveness unquestioningly is a twisted virtue, not a true virtue. A twisted virtue becomes a terrible vice ya know.
4785742
Smart girl
4786375
well either way i'm fucked
4786052
"I've heard he also shaves babies! The evil monster!!!"
4786380
And she avoided the hotel room alone offer and I don't think she sent him the lead pictures he asked for either.
4785695
Name some of them, just for context.
Yes but as for actual legal liability and or in breaking an actual law, nope not at all...Just offending people's sensibilities is not a crime or a stain on humnaity...no one can ban or remove authors and genres that contain or give a moral grey view of murder or rape just becasue they don't like it and or support it... though heavens know, people would love for it to be otherwise.
I said the idea that he would somehow find justification for his actions by being apart of that particular community was wrong becasue he doesn't need justification like that.
which was what it seemed you were saying with:
And my point is these people find this support and justification on their own, but they also have entire chat sites, dark web pages and etc. for them to do so, all of them know it and all of them participate in them...
Because He did not use this site or it's functions in his grooming of underage girls, if he was so confident that he would not experience consequences then one would think he would use the site and the community apparently giving him that cover...but no, the idiot used a public service where everything could be documented and saved...becasue he's an idiot who didn't think his victims would have the guts to stand up.
Which doesn't mean anything...again these people find the justification they want in anything and everywhere they can becasue they have these issues...
This is like saying death note promotes serial killers becasue it condones murder and killing people. The fact is serial killers will kill regardless of justification they find...same with pedophiles...they have an serious issue which they cannot control or escape.
and I'm saying that is not new... society always allowed abuse, we do it all the time in every faction of society...whether it be the work place, professional businesses, the entertainment industry or the news room, or especially the household...abuse, assault and etc. occurs and people look the other way and always have... this is for many reasons, job dependency, convenience, weakness, inability to see it, and or personal connections that make such things very difficult.
Name any of the options that doesn't involve somehow banning, surveillance, persecution and or etc. again my point was how do you handle the problem issues in the community without affecting/addressing the whole community.
So how dos not putting disclaimers that say this is only for fiction and we do not condone this in reality, not serve that function. Also how do we enforce this? by removing and or shutting down any positive comments for it? Writer back to each and every comment that supports it with a rebuttal etc. ?
Again what is the actual plan and or methods we can do becasue what you said is basically nothing of any actual substance.
So um what, force other people to take our side and not have their individual thoughts and opinions...cause there is no way you can ever get everyone to think the way you do or want...
I want to see his defender, and see their actual points....i want to see what they're big excuse is (especially since these accusations have credible and actual poof) an my guess it is those people who can't come to terms with it and or ignore it becasue it is convenient to do so...this is common nature by the way.
The guy was caught, this time with actual credible evidence that can be used in a court of law...my understanding is he was in trouble with the police before but they didn't have anything slid to convict him on...these latest victims actually have the evidence to support their claims.
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It was a joke and it just seems like a rediculous crime only cliché villains would do. And yeah I know, horrible people like him and many others give the whole creative industry a bad name when it gets out. That's why it doesn't get out. Holly wood has so many coverups its insane. Their was a producer who drowned stunt devils and non essential staff while filming scenes by making them where suits that were too heavy for underwater scenes for too long.
4785179
Except when she accuses the Analysis community of covering up. She was out right wrong about that.
4787595
Then how come Toonkritic wasn’t arrested before? How come this is only popping up if it’s hapoened before?
4787629
I know of those incidents at conventions, though just to mention, even before the Toon's pedophile incident, his inappropriate behavior at cons was known when researched. Problem was that there wasn't really any evidence (example video) other than by word, so it wasn't that the incidents were swept under the rug by the brony community (I'm interpreting you mean the analysis reviewers), it was just forgotten since no one can legitimately proof that happened. The pedophile case was different since the minor posted her email conversation as proof too the analysis community and that Toon did admit this in the skype chat adds more to the proof, so this is why its a big deal now than before.
4787659
That makes a lot of sense. Thanks.
4787674
No problem, but there is another big misconception that has been exaggerated from this. People accuse TK's friends of hiding the evidence and sweeping the incident under the rug, but that is simply not true. First, yes they did held the information of the skype call, but it was because to make a official statement of the situation with all of the facts in clear view, reason was to not to cause any rumors that could exaggerate and or cause people to send hate mail to TK's family. A example of this is with the KP drama where people accused her of abusing the people that do her videos, and illegally using mlp assets, which later on turned out to be a big misunderstanding. Second, if you see the skype chat where some of the analysis were confronting toon about the emails, they tried to convince him to turn himself to the authorities and when that didn't work they had no choice but to contact conventions head and staff of the situation which cause them to ban him from any upcoming and future conventions. They also were the ones to inform the authorities which cause him to be arrested shortly after, then they were going to release a official statement. In fact the second video on the blog by Moliminous even says this at the end of his video. Only problem was that it was leaked before they could release a official statement which surprise surprise caused rumors that were exaggerated. Third, yes they did know of his inappropriate behavior at conventions, but they were trying to have him stop that because at the time he was a good friend to them, and like any friend your close to, you try to have them to know better than that. Its just the pedophile truth came out was the last straw for them. This is really common in real life where you want to help someone close to you but they keep digging their grave deeper till the point of no return. Fourth, some of the other analysis did explain the story in true detail a few days after the leak, examples are Thespio's and Lightning Bliss's video on the matter.
4787523
I meant the baby shaving thing was a ridiculous thing. And I do get it. You just don't know how deep the rabbit hole goes...
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i defend toonkritic i read over your post got a few opinions of myself.
first off let start at the bottom
"So um what, force other people to take our side and not have their individual thoughts and opinions...cause there is no way you can ever get everyone to think the way you do or want...
I want to see his defender, and see their actual points....i want to see what they're big excuse is (especially since these accusations have credible and actual poof) an my guess it is those people who can't come to terms with it and or ignore it becasue it is convenient to do so...this is common nature by the way.
The guy was caught, this time with actual credible evidence that can be used in a court of law...my understanding is he was in trouble with the police before but they didn't have anything slid to convict him on...these latest victims actually have the evidence to support their claims."
well first off all the evidence is from SKYPE which anyone can impersonate anyone on it change their location and their timestamp, u can even fiddle with it to tweak it to be posted in the past, skype doesnt know who registered the account or tracks who the person who is using the account is, i personally have 4 different skype accounts all under different names all for different purposes they all have a random country and city stapled to the profile, skype will never holdup in court this evidence is a skype call and skype screenshots, screenshots i might add that have been censored and whole sections removed here are the list of the sections that are missing from the screenshots,
screenshot 539 shows at the bottom saturday nov 12th 2016 screenshot 540 show tuesday 22nd of nov 2016 where is the screenshots for the missing 10 days.
screenshot 587 date sat 26th nov 2016 screenshot 588 dec 8th 2016 where is the missing 11 days.
screenshot 589 date dec 8th 2016 screenshot 590 dec 20th 2016 where is the missing 12 days
screenshot 591 dec 11th screenshot 592 dec 31st 2016 were missing 20 days there.
screenshot 600 dec 31st 2016 screenshot 601 jan 16th 2017 missing 15 days
screenshot 608 jan 17th 2017 screenshot 609 jan 24th 2017 missing 7 days
screenshot 614 jan 24th 2017 screenshot 615 feb 6th 2017 missing 12 days
screenshot 615 feb 6th 2016 screenshot 616 feb 8th 2017 missing 48 hours
screenshot 616 feb 8th 2017 screenshot 617 may 1st 2017 missing 81 DAYS
screenshot 644 may 4th 2017 screenshot 645 may 7th 2017 missing 3 days
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screenshot 703 june 11th 2017 screenshot 704 june 16th 2017 missing 5 days (girl shared photo of herself unknown content)
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screenshot 851 august 22nd 2017 screenshot 852 august 24th 2017 missing 2 days (censored pic)
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screenshot 873 sept 13th 2017 screenshot 874 sept 15th 2017 missing 48 hours
screenshot 890 sept 17th 2017 screenshot 891 sept 22nd 2017 missing 5 days (bottom of 890 doesnt match with top of 891)
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there is so much missing that it almost equates to a year of texting and there is so much more if u look over the screenshots look at the top and bottom of each screenshots and see if they line up with the next screenshot u will likely find the same as i did that sections have been purposely edited out these screenshots are telling a 1 sided story making the girl out to be a victim and censoring anything that would show her to be the one pulling his strings.
now onto the next one
'The very bare minimum of a place we can start is dispel this impression that we would permit someone to do so, that our community has anything but horror for someone who would actually do any of this in real life.'
well for one i'm sure there are more wrongful people in the fandom that what toon is accused of i remember a quote done the fandom is not a safe place for children, we are a fandom made up of mostly adults, if u think toon is the only "alleged pedo" in this community u would likely be more disgusted by what goes on in this community then u would ever be with toon and his drama of a skype convo with a "minor" she is only a child if u look at it from an american point of view. where she lives she is a legal consenting adult. u cant hold toon and this girl at the same view point toon a US citizen "sally" a citizen of the republic of the philippines both legal consenting adults from their respective countries. she knew what she was getting into with toon screenshot 546 "huh for some reason i suspected you to ask that. XD Ah, to Hell with it, why not? ^^"
screenshot 547 "lol alright, and if at anytime you feel you wanna stop, let me know" - toonkritic stated this to sally.
screenshot 548 "we could do a bit now if you want?" sally replies "Alright, you wanna start? i'm gonna laugh so hard in the xxxxx call later; yes xxxx sin as well XD" quote the bottom of screenshot "Censoring out all lewd shit from the minors perspective, out of respect for "Their" Privacy" what privacy u wouldnt need to censor these logs if they werent going to be leaked to social media also it indicates that whole sections were removed and these screenshots altered to make toon out to be horrible where infact sally could be the one goading him on or being even more lewd then toon.
sorry to say but from all indications of these edits of the screenshots i'm seeing a pattern the edits show someone trying to script this incident against toon its obvious. sections that the girl posted that are likely very lewd or erotic are completed censored or removed, 500 screenshots and over 300 missing from the list, this tale of toon being this monster this pedo is completely false sure if she was american i can see this being legally wrong but u cant hold her at the same height as u would a 14 year old american who doesnt know better, we dont know her situation but we do know she is from a foreign country where their legal age for consent is 12 years old she is 14 she is legally giving consent to ERP with toon whether he is american or an adult its doesnt change how this event has been twisted to make him out to be the villian.