Jan
18th
2018
"Communist countries are bad because death squads!" · 11:53pm Jan 18th, 2018
My child, you can get summarily executed by paramilitary death squads right here in the US of A and people not only enjoy this, but they routinely vote for MORE death squads with MORE heavy weapons and military equipment.
Today a small child was killed by our local paramilitary death squads. Not too long ago an innocent man was killed in his own home because some folks thought it would be funny to send a death squad into his house.
Fun trivia for the day:
Downpatrick, Ireland (situated in Country Down) is actually called "Dun Padraig", or The Fortress of Padraig. It is not called Downpatrick because Saint Patrick is buried there, but you would think it is, because, you know, they put Patrick down there.
Imagine if all the bronies/pegasisters became Communist and we all formed a country
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SOCIALIST REPUBLIC OF PONY
That would be super cool, actually, but the CIA would try to destabilize us the moment we got shit going.
If Communist countries aren't bad because Death Squads, then obviously the US isn't bad because Death Squads, either.
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The US is bad because of other reasons, though.
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But you are in agreement that that child and innocent man being killed by death squads is fine, right? Death squads have no bearing on whether a society is desirable? Just checking.
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No,
No.
Again, you miss the point.
If your argument is that Capitalist societies do not have death squads, then you would be wrong.
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If you do not agree that death squads are fine, then Communist countries having death squads is a legitimate criticism of Communism. Whether other societies also have death squads is beside the point. There are more than two types of society; arguing against Communism is not inherently arguing in favor of capitalism.
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Just as long as you remember that it is equally as legitimate a criticism of Capitalism.
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Which means it is equally horrible to defend both Communism and capitalism.
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Which is a question of morality and justice, neither of which are really my concern here.
Capitalism is unstable and prone to regular crises. Socialism is inherently more stable, since the means of production are controlled by the proletariat instead of a handful of bourgeoisie tyrants.
If you reject either of these, then you must offer an alternative to the question of who should the means of production be controlled by.
I just want to make a point,
Communism.
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Really, now? What is your concern, then?
But why does it matter whether the system is stable or unstable? Why would stable be better? Go ahead; justify that without referring to justice or morality. I'll wait.
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Mmh, yes, this is good praxis.
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My concern is dismantling the rotting corpse of Capitalism before it dismantles ourselves and our planet.
It is normal for humans to seek stability. We are creatures of routine. In a nutshell, it's because of the same "HUMAN NATURE" that capitalists like to cry about.
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But why does it matter whether the planet is ‘dismantled’?
So? Why does it matter whether something is normal?
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We're reaching levels of exploding galaxy brain intellect I never thought were possible.
k den.
I take it you would walk into your own house, set it on fire, and then tell me "Why should I give a shit about that?" while we're sitting in your living room.
We should care because we live here? It's our only planet we have thus far? I like going outside without wearing Fallout 4 Power Armor? Having a working biosphere is good and I don't want to fuck that up for us? I enjoy eating food and not starving to death because the planet can no longer support life? Pick any reason out of these.
At this point I am genuinely unsure if you wouldn't push a button that would end all existence on earth because it wouldn't matter to you if we existed or not.
I certainly would not push that button, but it's a mystery to me whether you would or wouldn't.
Because that's how our dumb monkey brains are wired to behave, and also because we tend to seek out routines and habits unless something is seriously wrong with our physiology or our mental framework.
You are more than welcome to demonstrate for me how much you personally enjoy irregularities but it wouldn't necessarily convince me that you are correct.
Socialism allows for a much more uniform and structured society without the erratic, chaos-ridden boom/bust, up/down, gnawing irregularity of capitalism.
For an example of how fickle and irregular capitalism is, look at the recent bitcoin chaos, marked by a heroic upswing that then ended with a messy collapse.
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No. Because I have morality. But you said you aren't talking about morality, so you don't get to use that as a justification. Every excuse you've tried can be met with ‘why should that matter?’, and we can just keep going forever until you admit that it's because you are basing judgement on a moral code. Your own intelligence is wonderfully displayed in that you can't comprehend a hypothetical and resort to attacking my person for a position any observant individual would know I don't hold.
Says the person who invested in Bitcoin.
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It has less to do with morality than convenience.
Sure, we could live on a Fallout 4 post apocalyptic nightmare, but that would be much less comfortable.
For all your talk of intelligence, you keep dodging a simple question that an exploding Galaxy brain level intellect such as you ought to easily answer: by whom should the means of production be controlled?
But we both know you're actually just a bogus counter revolutionary reactionary armchair intellect, so you will continue to run from that question and pepper me with pointless flights of fancy.
You talk a good fight but offer nothing. Typical reactionary.
You are utterly predictable. Watch me perform a magic trick: you will continue to ignore my question and latch onto some other part of this post, make a grand, meaningless gesture intended to inflate your own ego, declare yourself the winner, and offer no real solution, proving my point further.
I have predicted your next 5,000 moves.
Your move!
I invest a few dollars in BTC because I love a good gamble. I am not like the idiots who spent entire livelihoods in that game.
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So you want to keep going, then. Why does it matter if something is convenient?
Actually, I'm intentionally focusing on one point and one point only so that you don't have a chance to pivot away from it.
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...not answering a question because your exploding galaxy brain level intellect has no answer.
We know. It was super obvious.
God, you reactionaries are dull. Do you ever get tired?
Of reacting, that is.
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Why does it matter if something is convenient?
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Out of the major counter-revolutionaries of history, I give you a 2/10 score, Saint Anthony.
This is without a doubt the laziest counter-revolutionary action I've seen taken to date.
You can't even perform your role in a relevant manner. You might as well just hang a sign around your neck that says "DOWN WITH THE REVOLUTION" and bang two cooking pots together.
The least you could do is take a hint from the French Royalist Counter-revolutionaries.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_in_the_Vend%C3%A9e
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So you can't answer, then.
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I don't really hold in-depth conversation with Counter-revolutionaries, sorry.
And you are going to have to do a damn sight better than that to stop my revolutionary vanguard.
Communism and capitalism are the same system. Just replace "state backed corporate elite" with "state elite."
Anarcho-Socialism FTW!