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    TWILY IS BAE

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Apr
30th
2017

Episode Discussion » S7E5 - Fluttershy Leans In · 1:38pm April 30th

Synopsis

Fluttershy is determined to make her career dreams come true with the help of some very special ponies. But when her true vision is not being executed properly, she must find a way to stand up and fight for her ideas.

I debated on whether we should have early posts and I decided, you know what, you're all going to watch it today anyway.

Comments ( 78 )

Damn right.

I'm fairly convinced you follow Evehly because of her adorable (and smexy) depictions of Fluttershy.

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Hol' up we have an internet detective here

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I was greatly amused by Evehly's recent art of Celestia's haunted bits.

4514546 You're either having a nosebleed or heart attack when it comes to Eve :rainbowlaugh:

Dang it Canada :facehoof:

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recent art of Celestia's haunted bits

"Recent"

You mean the one posted back in February?

I debate on whether we should have early posts and I decided, you know what, you're all going to watch it today anyway.

Goddamn right :ajsmug:

Are one of the "special ponies" in the description Discord? I really hope it is!!!!:pinkiehappy::pinkiegasp::heart:

I'm not

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Wow. Time flies when you're old.

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You must be older than me to say that haha

A part of me wonders if they'll expand Fluttershy's fondness of anime and have her make her own anime, only to have so many 'creative changes' happen...

...Kinda like that one episode of Family Guy featuring Elijah Wood and James Woods

Damn kids. Can't wait till next weekend to watch it. Noooooo you have to see it now.:derpytongue2:

I'm waiting till next week like a good little boy

I hope that I'm able to see this, but given that I can't seem to find the newest episodes of "Transformers: Robots in Disguise"...

Honestly? Apart from Fluttershy being more confident (which is always a good thing to see), this was...a really, really forgettable episode. 7.5/10, full review Saturday as usual.

MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM I can't find a stream to watch. :/ I suppose I'll have to watch it next week or whenever someone posts to youtube.

Well, this episode existed. Fluttershy not taking crap from anyone was neat (oddly missing Discord, especially since Starlight had a one second cameo), but that's all there was. The new environment they set up was nice and it wasn't another season 1 or 2 repeat. Honestly though, this episode didn't have any major flaws but nothing except for Fluttershy actually taking charge really stuck out either. Another 7/10 or so. 5 episodes in and nothing spectacular, but no duds either, all of it has been average. Celestial Advice is probably the strongest of the season overall, though depending on how much the flaws mattered to you, All Bottled Up or Maud's episode could easily top. This and Flurry's episode were good, just nothing great came out of them.

A very Canadian episode about dealing with an overburdened medical system.

Coming back to this, I never realized the episode was leaked, and I'm now kicking myself for not noticing...

BenRG #23 · April 30th · · 1 ·

I've got to say that this one felt a bit forced. The idea was good and I got the point of the first two reels. However, I got the impression that the resolution was thrown together in a bit of a hurry when the writer (G M Berrow) realised that she was running out of time to do it.

Don't get me wrong; the ending wasn't wrong and it was certainly in-character and also respected how Fluttershy has grown as a character since her introduction. That said, I can't help but feel that it was a third reel quick-fix that came about because of run-time pressures.

I have to agree with commentators elsewhere that the surprise guest-star was actually unneeded based on how the episode was concluded. If we'd had a brief indicator of how Big Daddy McColt was able to teach the Mane Six how to use natural materials in a sustainable and harmonious way then that simple five minute or less addition would, in my view, have made the episode much more complete. Really, all that was needed to re-balance the length of the segments when the 'experts' are introduced and then fail to respect Fluttershy's creative vision in favour of the resolution and this episode would have been much better.

BenRG's Rating: 7/10

:rainbowderp: Another episode already! That caught me offguard.

The gap between seasons is long enough already. I'll stick to one per week, thanks. :ajbemused:

Okay, now I'm caught up. So we finally get to see giraffes and deer in Equestria... as nonsapient beings without a known society. Guess that ruins a few headcanons, huh?

Definitely not my favorite this season. Don't get me wrong, it's certainly competent and it succeeds at what it tries to do, but it's just so bland and forgettable. I did like how it showed how assertive Fluttershy has gotten, but that's about it. I wouldn't turn off the TV if it showed up, but I wouldn't exactly pay attention.

So I'm going to give it a 6/10.

I like Fluttershy so naturally I liked this episode where her character progression is clearly demonstrated, but at the same time it felt so forgettable. Nothing of note happened besides building an animal sanctuary that will probably be forgotten by the next episode and never show up again. It wasn't bad, but I would rank it similarly to the last 4 episodes: average.

Episode really felt like nothing happened and it kind of worked against the message of "Suited for Success"

Is anyone else wondering about that giraffe? The way the episode was presented seems to indicate that it was just another animal, which is bound to throw at least a few wrenches in a few headcanons regarding them, including mine. You would think that, with how similar her eyes were to that of a pony's, it would indicate sapience.

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Yeah, it's kinda weird. In the comics there's a whole story arc where they interact with a sapient deer civilization. Not that the comic is holy gospel or anything.

I did wonder where they were going to go with this story as it could have ended up with a trust the experts, they know their thing more than you do, moral given the vagueness of Fluttershy's plans. Still it was nice to see Fluttershy being large and in charge and I didn't expect a Big Daddy cameo, the rest of the family would have been nice. It was a shame they didn't use Discord through given he could have literally made Fluttershy's dreams reality.

I feel like this episode's heart was in the right place, but that it was... flawed in regards to the lesson it was trying to teach.

Having dreams is a great thing. Pursue the things you're passionate about and have a goal you're striving for. Even be willing and able to stand up for your creative vision.

However, don't blindly insist your vision is correct to the exclusion of all other opinions, as in real life achieving a dream requires compromise and sacrifice. Don't run after your dream without a cohesive and sensible plan, and be willing to adapt as needed as you inevitably encounter obstacles and challenges. Certainly learn how to communicate your ideas in a way that other people can understand and be able to work together with others to help a dream come to fruition, rather than get angry every time your poor ability to communicate creates problems.

Making a dream, any dream, creative or otherwise, into a reality is a hard process that often runs into all sorts of practical problems that you never considered during the "dreaming" portion of the process. Its important for people, especially children, to learn that their "dreams" don't just automatically happen and that stubbornly and "assertively" driving them forward is going to cause even more problems in a world that doesn't bend over for you just because you want it to. Striving for our dreams is as much about compromise, adaption, and staying strong in the face of making changes to plans and still moving forward. Its not about getting irritated and angry every time you don't get things your way and blaming others for not listening to your "vision". Your vision might well be wrong, at least in part. So communicate, confer, and even be willing to compromise with the people helping you out. Don't give up on your dream, but don't try to hammer it through without taking into account the practical issues you'll no doubt encounter along the way.

In the end the dream you achieve might not match up exactly with the one you originally thought up, but the real life result might prove better, stronger, and more amazing than anything you dreamed up.

Or, you know, teach children that if they don't get their way then all they have to do is get obstinate, shout, and get rid of the people that don't agree with them, never listening to any other opinion or ideas outside of their "vision". That's a great lesson for kids, right?

I posted my review on The Writers Group, but I might as well post it here, also.
Turns out there's Fluttershy 2 in Ponyville, and she takes care of animals even better than Fluttershy 1 does. When Fluttershy 1 breaks Angel's Bunny leg, she brings him to Fluttershy 2 because she couldn't be bothered to help any animal anymore.

Since Fluttershy 1 is useless, Fluttershy 2 finds herself up to her neck in animals. It is then that Fluttershy 1 decides to shed all of her character traits and become a Boss, which isn't even her final form. She evolves further and employs master-slave tactics to have other ponies build her a Paradise in Equestria. They try their best but it's not good enough for Evolved Boss (former Fluttershy 1). She puts her hoof down and breaks all their efforts, then banishes them out of corrupted Paradise.

Fluttershy 1 in her Super-Sayan-7-Evolved-Boss form gets herself new slaves and brainwashes them to only see the world through her eyes. They build Paradise in Equestria and every animal lives happily ever after.

4514836 This guys put it best, I agree 100%. Good episode, but flawed... still enjoyable, the message just kind of nags on you a bit... Also,

Or, you know, teach children that if they don't get their way then all they have to do is get obstinate, shout, and get rid of the people that don't agree with them, never listening to any other opinion or ideas outside of their "vision". That's a great lesson for kids, right?

This. This^. THIS.

This is an important clarification that needed to have been made. Not to start a politics arguments, but... well, our current White House apparently confirms that this is a legitimate strategy. This is not the way I would want kids to be educated. It's true, don't rely on experts 100% or expect them to be ALWAYS right, but evidence and facts should be important to consider, not just thrown aside or regarded as wrong or, say, fake. This is a clarification that EVERYBODY needs to learn, whether you are an average working Joe or the leader of a complex country.

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Everything you said makes sense, on the other hand the ones who she was conferring with basically completely ignored her, so her frustration was warranted. Even if the inital 'blueprints' were a cobbled together mess, her verbal instructions were thown out the window or intentionally misinterpreted to make it so they wouldn't have to actually do what Flutters wanted in the slightest. "We used the trees" You know that isn''t what she meant. "The fabrics are organic" But they still aren't the colors she explicitly asked for. "I put pillows in the cages that she outright told me she didn't want" Just...ugh.

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I agree that the three that were brought in to help weren't doing a very good job of communicating either, which is why I feel the episode was kind of flawed in its lesson. This really should have been about learning to communicate and compromise in the pursuit of one's dreams, rather than teaching that if people don't listen to you or agree with you then just get rid of them and push onward with your own vision regardless. That's... not really very effective a method in real life. I would've liked to see the episode have a more balanced view where maybe Fluttershy also realized that maybe parts of her vision weren't quite right, and that the helpers also learned to listen better. After all, Fluttershy might know animals and how to take care of them, but an animal sanctuary is an entirely different and new level of responsibility beyond just caring for a few animals in her house. Fluttershy probably has a lot to learn about how to run one properly, and deal with all the problems such a sanctuary would encounter that go beyond her "expert" experience... but the episode just kind of paints her as 100% correct, and I just don't feel that's part of a teaching a good lesson to children. The episode made it look too easy to achieve one's dreams and that all you have to do is be stubborn about what you want and not listen to outside opinions because clearly you know best and how could you possibly be wrong about your dream?

Trust me, in real life, you can often be wrong about your dream. That doesn't mean its wrong to dream, or pursue it passionately. But compromise, adaption, and communication are so much more important than what this episode suggested they were, which is why it kind of rubbed me the wrong way.

Now I'm kinda sad that Giraffes have now been revealed to be just animals in equestria:fluttercry:
But the one we did get was cute.
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Yes indeed, Faust would not have approved, from her interviews she imagined most of the hooved species were intelligent except pigs.
I always imagined them as friends of the zebras in their land but sadly it was not to be.

4514994 I know, it sucks! I mean, Giraffes are in the same family as cows and oxen, aren't they? So why aren't they sapient like the cows on the show? Or the sheep, for that matter.

I think I would have liked this more if they hadn't covered this sort of thing in "Suited for Success," with Rarity, who was more likely to scream than F-shy.

I honestly had no idea this was even leaked. I'm kind of glad I did jump the gun and watched, because now I won't be holding my breath for a good episode. 4514836, 4514927, and 4514942, your interchange was perfect. Exactly what I was thinking. Very forgettable episode, and the lesson was not well-clarified at all. Seeing Fluttershy bring out her assertiveness again is nice for developing her character, but that was basically all it was good for. When that assertiveness was the actual conflict, like it was in "Putting Your Hoof Down," that made for a memorable episode.
6/10 at most.

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Or, you know, teach children that if they don't get their way then all they have to do is get obstinate, shout, and get rid of the people that don't agree with them, never listening to any other opinion or ideas outside of their "vision". That's a great lesson for kids, right?

You have a fair point, but those ponies who worked for Fluttershy never even took in what she said, and the fact that they immediately made the sanctuary so "drab" because they only wanted what they wanted without taking in consideration of what she has told them, the animals couldn't even make a good living out of it. What is to be blamed? Poor communication or selfish desires? Also Fluttershy had a pretty neat design shown in the episode, so it should be clear to us that a dream does need a cohesive plan.

Yes it's true that experts are not perfect, and they sometimes will need to open their minds to outsiders' ideas. However, the fact that those ponies who sloppily mis-constructed her design were the ones who lacked communication, and since they absolutely have zero vision of how nature or wildlife functions, it's almost always the expert who should do most of the thinking. That was what one large chunk of what the episode was trying to convey to its audience.

By the way, now that you have mentioned "exclusion of all other opinions", this episode was similar to S1E14 (Suited For Success) in many ways. The reason Rarity's reputation was damaged was because she accepted the opinions of her friends, who are nowhere fashion expertise (except for Fluttershy, she had a lot of detail in her comment on Rarity's design). In the end, because she was sympathized by her friends, Rarity was able to choose what was best for each of them and made her redemption as a true fashionista.

With that said, both episodes convey the same message: Being open minded and welcoming of others' ideas is one thing, but believing in your own strengths over peer (or stranger in this episode) pressure is just as important.

4514836 I want to start by saying that I strongly agree with most of your review, however, I think
4515143 also makes a very strong point. Fluttershy DID kind of have a right to be mad at them because they completely ignored her, and made everything unlivable for the animals that she knew so well. It was really a moment of "Step aside, little lady, and let the real professionals handle this", other than, "I disagree with your opinion and you must listen to me", that i think got under Fluttershy's skin. She didn't want to be pushed around so she had to stand up for herself in the moment.

However, the speed of that scene is also my biggest problem with this episode. It all felt too rushed and somewhat incomplete. While I commend Fluttershy for becoming so bold over the years and G.M. Burrow for showcasing such strong development, I feel like she solved her conflict a little too easily. It was like there really wasn't too much of a conflict for her to really face, other than pull herself back up by the bootstraps after one minor setback and press on. I could have seen the trio of workers trying to win Fluttershy's trust back and try to compromise with what she wanted to do, while also helping to meet their own standards. If something like that was included, then yeah, I could have seen more of a conflict of Fluttershy trying to trust others and work together towards a more common goal.

So while I was somewhat satisfied enough with how this episode turned out, I definitely wouldn't call it Fluttershy's best episode. It really felt like a first draft of a script that didn't have enough time to completely flesh out and be something great. And this is coming from someone who has enjoyed nearly all episodes of Fluttershy in the spotlight.

tl;dr—It was good enough, but could have been a lot better with stronger execution. 7/10

This a very good episode I'm sure some people are going say that Fluttershy was being bossy, but she wasn't she hired them made clear what she wanted, but I'm not sure why these other business ponies forgot the number one rule 'the customers always right' but I think that this episode show what much Fluttershy has grown as character. Anyone find odd that it's another Fluttershy episode that leaked early, just like 'Scare Master'.

4514892 Now Bad dragon that's nor really fair calling the vet Fluttershy, just because she does because they do the same job. I mean do you call every farmer you see AppleJack?

4515400 Everything about her screamed Fluttershy. She didn't have the heart to throw out the animals that got better. Come to think of it, Fluttershy 2 was more of a Fluttershy than Fluttershy 1 in this episode.

Dilos1 #50 · May 1st · · ·

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I think I've decided to continue believing that giraffes are a sapient species, it's just the giraffe we saw was forced to go to the local vet because none of the pony doctors knew how to care for a sick giraffe, whereas a vet would have a somewhat broader field to reference from. As for why she hangs around the sanctuary, I think I shall deduce that she just likes spending as much time around animals as Fluttershy. She also doesn't talk because she can't speak plain Eqush, although she does understand it. That's my headcanon, AND I WILL GO DOWN WITH IT!

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