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Aug
28th
2012

BONUS Random Episode Review of the Day: Over a Barrel · 8:52pm Aug 28th, 2012

(Another bonus because...because I want this one gone and done with.)

Yep, it’s time for another review! And after the last episode, I’m hoping for something a little lighter. Perhaps a fairly simple episode, like “A Bird in the Hoof” or “May the Best Pet Win?” Well, let’s see what our lovely Random Number Gods have bestowed upon us this day…

…It #20. “Over a Barrel.” WHY HAVE YOU FORSAKEN ME?

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TECHNICAL SPECS:
Season: 1
Episode: 21
Written By: Dave Polsky
First Aired: March 25, 2011

SUMMARY:

Applejack and the rest of the Mane 6 are travelling by pony-powered train (as in, the train is being pulled by ponies) to Appleloosa, a frontier town where AJ’s cousin, Braeburn, is setting up an orchard. AJ passes the time by reading bedtime stories and babying an apple tree – which she’s named Bloomberg – because she’s an idiot. Rarity whines and throws a fit about this because she’s an idiot. The rest of the Mane 6 spend the night talking about whether or not Fluttershy is a tree because, which annoys Spike enough for him go into the back car and sleep with Bloomberg.

The next day, the train is attacked by Buffalos, who are being led by an incredibly tiny one. After slamming the train a few times, the small buffalo jumps on top and detaches the back car. Rainbow Dash tries to stop her, but crashes into a crossing sign because she’s an idiot. The rest of the team arrives in Appleloosa, where Braeburn shows them around a series of puns too lame and horrible for even a Quest for Glory game before finally showing them the new apple orchard. Once he finally shuts his mouth, Applejack tells him about the Buffalo attack, and he confirms that the tribe’s been trying to get the town to remove the trees for some time now. Without the apples, however, the town will die.

Meanwhile, Dash has managed to sneak into Buffalo territory, but her cover is blown by Pinkie Pie, who’s an idiot. The two are soon surrounded, but the situation is resolved when Spike vouches for them; as it turns out, Buffalo respect dragons, which allows for his word to save their lives. The two are taken to the Buffalo camp for the night, where Dash encounters the little buffalo girl again, named Little Strongheart. She explains that the reason they attacked the train was to stop the flow of trees into Appleloosa; the town is planting on their traditional stampeding grounds, and their leader, Chief Thuderhooves, wants them gone. After hearing his dull speech, Dash, Pinkie and Spike volunteer to take Little Strongheart over to try and talk to the townsfolk.

The next morning, the remaining Mane 6 and Braeburn set off into Buffalo territory to rescue Dash and Pinkie, but instead run into them and Strongheart on their way to the town. Braeburn shows a willingness to at least discuss things rationally…but Applejack is an idiot, so she torpedoes the entire first contact because they took her pwecious whittle apple twee. Dash, who is also an idiot, retorts that they just have to move the trees, but it turns out that the stampeding grounds are the only place fertile enough to support the orchard. Twilight – the only character in this entire episode who’s not an idiot – says that they have to come to a compromise, and Pinkie offers a solution: dress up like a stock saloon girl and perform a song-and-dance number about how the two species aren’t so different and should agree to share. And they agree…that the song sucks so much that they’re going to war.

The Buffalo return at high noon the next day, but before they can charge, Little Strongheart finally convinces Thuderhooves that there is an alternative to war…until Pinkie starts singing again because she’s an idiot. And since Thuderhooves is also an idiot, he gets so angered at her song that he orders his entire tribe to charge into certain death. The settlers strike back with…apple pies. And then…Thuderhooves gets struck by a pie, but it tastes so good that he finally makes a deal: they clear enough trees to allow a path through the orchard, and give them some apple pies on the way through, and the Appleloosans will be allowed to keep the rest of their trees.

And so Twilight narrates the lesson: even the worst of enemies can become the best of friends, and that sharing is cool. And finally, it ends, and the healing can begin.

REVIEW:

Look, I have to level with everyone here: I am not the most critical guy in the world. Generally, if something’s entertaining or fun to watch or read, I’ll do so without complaint. And when I do criticize, I like to at least be a little bit positive. I just don’t like to come off as some horrible flankhole out to ruin someone’s life just to have some satisfaction with my own. Most of the reviews up to this point have showcased flaws with episodes, but I’ve always tried to be very positive as well, and a great many of the episodes the RNG has saddled me with so far are ones that I still enjoy. So you can trust me when I say that watching “Over a Barrel” again was one of the worst moments in my entire time in the fandom. I would rather read every single “Cupcakes” knock-off and then watch the Newborn Cuties videos on an endless loop for two months straight than try and analyze this episode again. It is just wretched.

I said back in my “The Mysterious Mare-Do-Well” review that I considered that one and “Owl’s Well That Ends Well” the worst episodes. I was wrong. I would rather watch either one of those again before I even look at this Celestia-damned mess again. So once again, don’t expect a lot of happiness in this review; just a lot of tears and sobs.

The very first scene highlights one of the reasons why I hate this one: four ponies pulling an entire train at the same speed it would actually go if it was using coal. Now, Faust didn’t want a lot of technology in her new series, and I’m fine with that. I really don’t want Pinkie pulling out an iPhone or Twilight jumping onto Wikipedia to research more spells. I didn’t like the hydroelectric dam in MMDW because it was a massive leap in terms of their tech level, and was made only so they could justify using another superhero cliché. But that is not the case here. You have a country that is, for all intents and purposes, decently large in size and with a wide range of geography. You have to transport goods over a wide area, and just pulling them will be tiring for even a horse. So, you invent a big, metal device capable of pulling similarly metal carriages along a line of track…and then can’t find a single thing to power it? Magitek exists in Equestria. Coal exists in Equestria. You could even have a steam engine if you wanted. I would take ANY of that over four ponies pulling an entire train (PLUS A LOCOMOTIVE) for Celestia-knows how long non-stop.

And right after this is the second problem with this episode: the writing. Every character (save Twilight) feels like they had part of their brain scooped out before the episode began. Applejack cares about her trees, but she doesn’t seem like the kind who would read them bedtime stories and treat them like actual babies. Rarity spends the entirety of the episode in a perpetual whine, crying and sobbing like a three-year-old because nopony is taking her seriously. Rainbow Dash is fine in the first half, but we’ll get to her stupidity later. Fluttershy might as well not exist, and is only there so she can make that stupid meme about her being a tree. And then there’s Pinkie Pie. Oh God, there’s Pinkie Pie. She was kind of irritating in FPK, but here she is almost brain dead. And Spike…well, he’s at least given something to do, and he ends up accomplishing a lot more in the first ten minutes than most of the cast does the entire episode.

As for the Buffalo…okay, there’s a rather big “Elephant in the Room” that I have to talk about. The Buffalo are obviously based on Native Americans, with the episode taking all the trappings of the Western genre. I won’t comment too much on them wearing feathers and living in teepees, because honestly it’s no worse than what they did with Zecora. The problem, though, is that if you swapped out the ponies for humans, you have an episode about what amounts to American (and by that, I mean US) settlers trying to take land from Native Americans, i.e. what actually happened. And it didn’t end with apple pie fights and friendship, unless the pies were infected with smallpox and the friendship was just long enough for the government to show up and force them to move because they found specks of gold on the spot they had moved them to earlier. I’m no expert on this, so I’ll leave it at that, but…if you were wanting to do an episode about enemies becoming friends and learning to share, this kind of isn’t the setting you want to use, even for a little girl’s show.

Anyway, the main buffalo is Little Strongheart. She’s just kind of flat as a character, and the start of the episode spends so much time trying to make her look badass at the expense of Rainbow Dash that it hardly endears her to me. Pretty much her entire reason for existing is to be the “reasonable Buffalo,” which becomes superfluous when Dash ends up doing more for the Buffalo side than her. Chief Thuderhooves is your stock chieftain character, and nothing more.

Speaking of Dash, I do like that she shows some tactics here by choosing to sneak through the enemy territory rather than just barge in, but all that goes away once we get to the negotiation scene.

The first scene with Appleloosa is probably the best part of the episode. Braeburn is like a cross between Applejack and Pinkie Pie, and he’s actually a pretty decent character overall. Some of the puns are enjoyable awful, such as the horse-drawn carriages (the only funny joke in the entire episode), the horse-drawn horse-drawn carriages, and the wild (and mild) west dances. His role, like with Strongheart, is to be the voice of reason on the pony side of the debate.

And speaking of the debate, the scene where the two groups meet is handled very poorly. The entire meeting gets hijacked by Dash (who is suddenly totally on board with the Buffalo) and AJ (who is acting like a stupid moron because her tree got treenapped). The scene highlights that the Buffalo had the land first, and that the Appleloosans need the land to plant their trees. The idea is to give both sides a valid claim, but in practice, I’ve found a gaping hole in this little setup: why can’t the Buffalo stampede somewhere else? No, really, why can’t they just, you know, go around the orchard and town? Is everything around there quicksand? Are the rattlers just waiting to jump up and start biting? A reason is given for why the apple trees can’t be moved, but there’s no attempt to explain why this traditional stomping ground is so bloody important besides for the fact that it’s traditional. History be damned, I’m going with the settlers on this one.

And next comes the most infamous moment in the episode: Pinkie’s song about sharing. Granted, it’s actually not too annoying, the outfit is a bit of genius, and it gave rise to the “wingboner” meme. Where I have a problem with it, though, is that it’s apparently so bad that it drives both sides into a near-homicidal rage at each other. I get that it’s supposed to be a jab at using silly little songs to diffuse conflicts, but as we’ll soon see, the solution they come up with here isn’t all that much better.

And now we have the single worst moment of this entire mess, the thing that boils my blood to murderous levels. Thunderhooves finally relents…and Pinkie breaks into song, which is all it takes for him to charge again. I know the whole joke with Pinkie Pie Songs is that they’re so bad that they annoy others, but this is taking the one-joke premise way too far. Not only that, but Pinkie saw that the song had the opposite effect of what she wanted…and did it anyway. I hate, hate, hate this episode.

The fight is…just okay. We get some decent moments, like some buffalo slamming into an anvil hidden inside a hay bale and Carrot Top riding one like a bull, but the resolution is so rushed and stupid that it hurts my brain. Thunderhooves gets slammed by a pie, which causes both sides to stop fighting and cry over the dead chief…even though he just got hit in the head with a pie. I’m pretty sure apple pies only kill you if you eat them. And look, he eats a crumb, and he likes it so much that he immediately abandons his plans to murder the ponies and agrees to let the ponies keep the orchard, as long as the Buffalo get pies. Again, I know it’s a girl’s show, but it’s kind of hard to watch when you know how it really turned out. That, and it’s a stupid ending. All this time, all they needed to do was give Thunderhooves a pie and he’d be willing to let the settlers stay? That’s…dumb.

And oh yeah, why are they fighting with apple pies? Forget that it’s a kids show for a second and look at the logistics involved. The settlers rely on the apples from the apple trees to live. The entire reason they’re fighting is because the Buffalo tribe wants the trees removed. So in order to save their food, they bake the apples into pies, using up flour, eggs, and other ingredients, and then throw them like this is a Three Stooges sketch. So, in the process of saving your food supply, you waste about half of it. Yes, that’s a wonderful plan.

And then there’s the moral. The first part (“enemies can become friends”) isn’t a bad lesson in and of itself. I have known a lot of people who start out hating each other, but over time become good friends, and it is a pretty good lesson for the kids. The second half (“sharing is caring”) is just tacked on and feels like something out of a much lesser cartoon. And Pinkie’s final gag is so irritating and I’m just happy this episode is done.

CONCLUSION:

I hate this episode. I really, truly do. The comedy makes me smile at best, the writing is terrible, the conflict is resolved in the worst manner possible, and there is just so much concentrated dumb that I can’t believe this made it to air in this condition. Yes, I know, kids show, but even shows for little girls need some kind of quality standards. There is almost nothing worse than watching bad comedy, and this episode proves that in spades.

If you like this episode, that’s fine. Maybe you find the jokes funny. Maybe you thought the conflict was resolved well. Maybe you think I’m just being a grumpy gus. And you may be right. But the fact is, this episode really does offend me with its awfulness, and I never want to see it again.

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Well, that’s enough mean-spiritedness for one day. Now if you’ll excuse me, I need a drink.

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I hate Mare Do Well more, but that is about the best thing I can say for this episode.

Yeah, the fact that they fought with apple pies just annoyed me so much that I fast-forwarded the whole battle. :twilightoops:
Even though this episode introduced Braeburn, the hottest stallion ever, I have to say that it was unbelievably dull and pointless. I agree with this review wholeheartedly.

But I liked the puns :applecry:

The rest of the episode was trash though and I completely agree that it feels like it's trying to bury the past. I mean what would happen if someone tried to do an episode like this about nazi's and jews? Yeah, I don't think that the show would survive that... I'm going to shut up now before I go on a rant of my own

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oh yeah I'm going to get some hate for this

The only reason I tolerate this episode's existence is that it builds on Equestria a bit. It shows that the country isn't all mountains, grass, and rainbows. It makes the world feel larger because it gets us out of that little valley with Canterlot and Ponyville. Other than that, I agree with this blog post. I cringe every time the pies start flying through the air.

Yeah, this episode sucked. This one, along with Feeling Pinkie Keen, are my two least favorite ones.
Which is why I'm a bit bummed that, according to what I heard, Polsky is back for S3. :-(

If a part of Equestria ever gets invaded by technologically advanced warmongering aliens, Appleoosa will clearly be the easiest one conquered.

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Godwin's Law: As an online discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Hitler approaches 1. Corollary to this law is that whoever ends up making the comparison immediately loses whatever debate was taking place.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin's_law

I'll be honest.

The only Pinkie Pie song I've ever heard was that stupid, stupid one in the pilot. After that, I fast forward past all of her freakin' earbending monstrousities. Even William Murderface (of Dethklok) could have written more entertaining tunes.

And I'm agreed on the stomping grounds thing.

As for the train, a few websites I've read list horsepower for trains (as in power to keep it moving, power to start it is tractive power) ranging from a few hundred for small 'uns to up to 8,000 for a big passenger one. And this is horsepower, not ponypower.

So when I saw four ponies pulling a steam locomotive, plus cars... yeahhhhhh.... riiiiiight....

Okay, I gotta jump down your throat on at least part of this, mainly because you shoot yourself in the foot in the process of venting.
"...there’s no attempt to explain why this traditional stomping ground is so bloody important besides for the fact that it’s traditional. History be damned..."
This is more or less the same logic you referred to in an earlier paragraph when you talked about how the government moved Native Americans around at will because they found something on the land the natives were currently occupying. As for the ponies need for survival outweighing the buffaloes' right to their traditions, this highlights some of the biggest problems and false justifications of western expansion in general; namely that settlers talk about their need to survive but forget that their claim is undermined by the fact that they moved into someone else's territory and claimed as their own without even considering that someone else might already have a claim to it. There's no indication that the Appleloosa settlers ever took the buffalo into consideration when they settled out there in the first place. So to say that their claim to the land is stronger because they need it to survive after stealing it out from under the buffalo to begin with is pretty faulty logic.

It's okay. It's over now. You can come out of your burrows as the worst is over.

I don't hate this episode, but I've never felt the compulsion to watch it more than once. I've actually gotten to the halfway point a second time around, then turned it off to load up a different episode. I just find the second half rather dull and kinda stupid.

Welp, it should be smooth sailing from here on out! (Just as long as you don't get "Owl's Well That Ends Well" next). :raritydespair:

:facehoof: "Knows Buffalo Chief is angry, and hates her song. Sings it anyway."

Someone make a meme out of this. But yeah, i hate this episode. Everypony acts like an idiot and is OOC, for some reason. Can't wait for that Nazis & Jews friendship episode coming up.

/rant

Okay, this is my least favorite episode. I might actually outright HATE it, but even I don't have nearly this many problems with it. I'm prone to skipping it when watching my own randomized play list, yet I have rewatched on occasion anyway. Taken individually I even like quite a few scenes in this episode, it's only as a whole that it truly falls apart for me.

The problem, though, is that if you swapped out the ponies for humans, you have an episode about what amounts to American (and by that, I mean US) settlers trying to take land from Native Americans, i.e. what actually happened. And it didn’t end with apple pie fights and friendship, unless the pies were infected with smallpox and the friendship was just long enough for the government to show up and force them to move because they found specks of gold on the spot they had moved them to earlier

All true, but at the same time I feel that the loss of the classic western scenario is among the great tragedies of the age of politically correct media. It's not that I belittle the real world tragedy, but well... GAH! There's just no easy answers here and I don't want to go into such a minefield riddled debate.

History be damned, I’m going with the settlers on this one.

Isn't that kind of the problem with the history of western expansion in the USA though. In this case the ponies never had to found a settlement here, they could have stayed in Equestria proper and left the Buffalo lands to it indigenous population.

And next comes the most infamous moment in the episode: Pinkie’s song about sharing. Granted, it’s actually not too annoying, the outfit is a bit of genius, and it gave rise to the “wingboner” meme. Where I have a problem with it, though, is that it’s apparently so bad that it drives both sides into a near-homicidal rage at each other. I get that it’s supposed to be a jab at using silly little songs to diffuse conflicts, but as we’ll soon see, the solution they come up with here isn’t all that much better.

And now we have the single worst moment of this entire mess, the thing that boils my blood to murderous levels. Thunderhooves finally relents…and Pinkie breaks into song, which is all it takes for him to charge again. I know the whole joke with Pinkie Pie Songs is that they’re so bad that they annoy others, but this is taking the one-joke premise way too far. Not only that, but Pinkie saw that the song had the opposite effect of what she wanted…and did it anyway. I hate, hate, hate this episode.

TESTIFY MY BROTHER! TESTIFY!

And Pinkie’s final gag is so irritating and I’m just happy this episode is done.

Aww... That's actually one of those part I really liked.

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All true, but at the same time I feel that the loss of the classic western scenario is among the great tragedies of the age of politically correct media.

Actually - and I know this is going to sound really hypocritical - but I agree with you. I actually like quite a few westerns, and the idea of basing an episode of FiM around the genre is actually pretty cute. Unfortunately, it doesn't work here thanks to Polsky's poor writing and turning one of the ugliest moments of US history into a pie fight. At leas they haven't completely forgotten about the frontier setting if "The Last Roundup" is anything to go by.

Although...that one also had a really annoying interpretation of Pinkie. Why is it that every time they go westward, Pinkie gets more and more irritating?

puns too lame and horrible for even a Quest for Glory

NO pun is to lame and horrible for a Quest for Glory game. dl.dropbox.com/u/31471793/FiMFiction/emoticons/lolface_Celestia.png dl.dropbox.com/u/31471793/FiMFiction/Luna_lolface.png

I can't believe someone else out there remembers those games.

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NO pun is to lame and horrible for a Quest for Glory game.
I can't believe someone else out there remembers those games.

Neither can I. :pinkiehappy:

Seriously, they're like, ten bucks for the whole thing. Go buy now. Now! (Ending shameless plug for ancient game series only two people on this site remember.)

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You forgot the FREE VGA remake of the second game. ITS OSSIM!
I also found the Anthology, (the 4 game compilation that costs like, $100+ on Ebay) at half priced books. Best day of my life. :pinkiehappy:

At least the Last Roundup had the train running under its own power.

I actually do like this episode, but more in a "so bad it's good" kind of way. The characterization is crap, but there are a couple of legitimately funny jokes, and some parts are just so stupid or silly that I have to laugh at them.

Seriously though, you sound like you should take a break from these for a day or two. It can't be healthy for you to get this pissed off.

You know, before you started doing these reviews I didn't think anyone but me ever disliked or downright hated any episode of FIM. Glad to see that a lot of people feel the same as I do.

Agreed on all points except one.

History be damned, I’m going with the settlers on this one.

They say "traditional" because it's a kid's show and they can't say "spiritual" or "religious," but that's clearly the subtext.

Put another way, the buffalo can't just stampede somewhere else for the same reason why a Muslim of able body, on walking to his local 7-11, can't proclaim that he has now undertaken the Hajj and so doesn't need to go to Mecca (at least not if he wants to seriously continue to call himself a Muslim). Or basically, I'm with the buffalo on this one.

I'm also with the buffalo on this one because they've come an awful long way from Africa just to stampede around the area, and presumably they did it on hoof without the benefits of a horse-drawn train to take them there, so the least they can expect is to have their culturally significant stomping grounds to themselves.

(There are no buffalo in North America outside of zoos and never have been. There are, however, quite a lot of bison. I am annoyed when shows don't get it right. You can add that to the list of problems with this episode)

318420 But Smile Smile Smile is good :pinkiesad2:

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Now that's just being truly nitpicky. Bison might be the more technically accurate term, but they are also commonly known as the American buffalo (at least according to Wikipedia).

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"Smile, Smile, Smile" isn't really a Pinkie song. It's just a regular song sung by Pinkie.

"Regular Songs" are things with full melodies and are big parts of the episode, like "At the Gala," "Winter Wrap-Up," "Becoming Popular," and "This Day Aria."

"Pinkie Pie Songs" are the tunes Pinkie sings that are deliberately played as being so terrible they're funny, like "Giggle at the Ghostlies," "Hop, Skip and Jump," "Pony Pokey," "Oink Oink Oink," and "The Welcome Song."

320056 *slides Evil Enchantress into the list*

Never thought of it that way. I just imagined a "Pinkie song" as a song featuring Pinkie Pie. But I definitely see where you're coming from.

I hit my head on the wall for a few minutes after this one...

>mfw Over a Barrel was my second favorite episode of Season One

But yeah, I do agree with a lot of what you've said here. Although, like others have said, I disagree with your point about the stampeeding grounds.

Meh. The kind of humor in the episode is the kind I enjoy watching with friends.

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