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deep breaths, you're all going to need them
What happened?
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Gonna guess it's in reference to whoever is running things for the next four years.
Vague!
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Ooohhh, now I get it!
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Just thumbing through executive orders in the last day can give you some idea...
https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/
--Sweetie Belle
*sigh*
Yeah, I'm going to be looking at places to move. Permanently. If we're dumb enough to elect that asshat TWICE then I don't have any hope for the country moving forward. I hear Costa Rica has good cost of living.
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Come to Canada, we have maple syrup.
Also, you may have heard things about our bacon but I promise that Canadian bacon is its own separate thing and we have the normal kind too.
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That just tells me who is signing orders.
Knew how it was gonna go down, didn’t watch a second of it. Nothing we can do about it now, might as well accept that it’s gone be a rough four years.
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Look at the bright side, his party is so overwhelmingly incompetent they'll get little of substance done, and he himself can't legally have a third term.
5827128 Is it? It was apparently straightforward enough for a few people to unfollow me
If it makes you feel any better, the federal government is already broke, so they can't afford to do most of that anyway.
There were some highlights, such as Amy Klobuchar getting a few digs in at Trump in her speech, and Hillary Clinton struggling not to laugh when Trump was talking about renaming the Gulf of Mexico, but otherwise we need to brace ourselves. It's gonna be a wild ride...
Last summer, I made sure to renew my British passport (dual Scottish citizen from my Mom's side). I mean, I know the UK is going through it's own shit-show, right now, but I think I'd rather be there than here. I will miss Phoenix.
I'll have to work on my Scottish brogue, though ... 
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There are the mid-term elections in two years, and I swear every last one of the Americans here better turn out and vote Blue across the board.
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I very much doubt he's in any shape to even consider running at the end of his term, even if he lives that long.
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I mean, yeah? Lots of stuff happened yesterday, I don't know what thing(s) you're referring to.
People can assume whatever you like but you haven't actually said what you're annoyed about.
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To be fair, given the post on the last day of similar relevance, there's a distinct pattern.
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Yes I'm sure it's something Trump did, but again he did lots of stuff.
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Haven’t you heard, America is screwed.
Oh, and I’m not gonna be going to America for four years, Just like the last time, the orange monster got elected.
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Lol good we don't want you here anyway
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Wow, I think you need to go back to kindergarten if you’re gonna behave like a child.
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> You're behaving like a child
> Uses Emote and then edits in a proper response.
lol, lmao even.
Anyway, it's time to respond to some of what you said.
No, it's not, even if you hated the man's first term, we "survived" it last time and we'll survive it this time too. America has survived much worse presidents than Donald Trump and Donald Trump isn't even the worst modern president we've had.
As for this again we don't want you here.
5827197 5827198 I mean, granted, I could have pre-emptively be talking about the petty child that's downvoting every comment, or perhaps about someone I met on the street. It is indeed a very vague blog post. But I did that very intentionally, to see where people's mind would immediately go to. And the fact that just about zeroed-in on a specific event and person on their own with no additional prompting was also not a surprise.
5827208 5827204 I don't want this fight here. Stop it.
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Fine.
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Unfollow? Geez Looeez, people sure can take offense easily. Keeping an open ear is good for society, even if a person thinks the people they are listening to are way wrong in their opinions. We all have to live with each other anyway.
5827215 If they feel that strongly about it, there's nothing to be done. It's not a crime to unfollow me.
Man, I’m 24 (turning 25 this year) and even I feel too old for this shit
Good luck everyone, everypony and everycreature, we’ll all gonna need it
Gulf of America.
Trump is more important than Carter (and Veterans Affairs).
We're going to develop continental shelf energy sources to deal with an energy crisis, but not wind power because that is environmentally questionable.
US will handle its own healthcare without the rest of the world.
"Those who supported me are right and just, but those who opposed me are potentially criminals."
It's now official government position that Hunter's laptop exists and was damning for Joe.
DEI bad; monoculture good?
Helping the world bad; keeping everything for ourselves good.
We need to kill more criminals.
The military will solve our immigration policy shortfalls.
And most importantly, in an effort to protect women from men pretending to be women, the official government position is that there are only two genders...
...and everyone in the US is now female.
(Among other Trump decrees)
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Arguable. Trump has been openly criminal, so it's easy to see what he's gotten away with, while all the others were smart enough to hide their crimes.
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Ain't that the truth.
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I'm taking specifically from a policy standpoint not so much a personal standpoint
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... Again, arguable. He enacted huge tax cuts, caused the deaths of hundreds of thousands with his mishandling of the pandemic, and has set our SCOTUS up to be skewed for likely the next 2 generations. I can't think of a single modern president who has done the kind of damage he has.
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Well, to be fair. You did posted yesterday, the same day you-know-who became President once again. So, it's no brainer that most people would react negatively to this.
And I admit that I didn't connect the dots at first, because I thought this blog was about your personal life? Not about the fiasco that is called "politics".
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) while ignoring homeless and homeless veterans, government programs that suck the life blood of the people, teaching kids about sexual orientation and who/how to have sex instead of reading, writing, math, etc., focusing more on DEI then actually being the best at for the job, are all more important than the freedom of having your own opinion without getting shunned and shouted down, keeping the money you make, having affordable housing and food, lower taxes, better jobs, not having to worry about looters, robbers, murders, people overdosing on drugs, securing the border to not let in r*pists, murders, child traffickers, and drug dealers! 
Careful now, "wrong think" means you're a racist, sexist, homophobic, transphobic, white supremacist bigot that needs to keep their mouth shut or else you'll offend someone on the internet. After all; feelings, letting everyone into this country no matter what, focusing more on illegal immigrants (sorry, asylum seekers
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Andrew Jackson probably did the most amount of unjustified, indirect killing of any president. You also can't blame Trump for mishandling since all he had control over was who could come into the country but people bitched about that, a lot of how the pandemic was handled came down to state levels.
> I can't think of a single modern president who has done the kind of damage he has.
Bush Jr: The Patriot Act, the mishandling of Katrina, the War on Terror in general. Trying to Privatize social security, failed to get immigration reform going which, you could argue the illegal immigration crisis every president since Bush has inherited has been his fault. the Plame Affair. No Child Left Behind has permanently damaged the US education system as well. His administration also caused the Mortage Crisis that we ended up having, though the Democrats are also to blame for this, they essentially bribed him to allow it to happen by saying if he did they'd keep funding the war on terror.
Obama: The Benghazi Attacks and Arab Spring were all mishandled under him, (Obama in general was a foreign policy dud). The Solyndra Bankruptcy was also his admins fault, no you can't control when a company goes under but he funded them with a 530 million dollar loan in 2009 and they went bankrupt in 2011, that money disappearing. Obama is also effectively the cause of both the War in Ukraine and a lot of Iran's rhetoric today, though Bush helped with that. He allowed Russia to annex Crimea, and he constantly made fun of Mitt Romney's Anti-Russia stance by saying "The 1980s called, and wants its foreign policy back.” Both with Ukraine and Libya, he'd say "We have this red line don't cross it" and when Russia or someone else would cross it he'd do nothing about it. At Home Obamacare was a failure, yes you can blame conservatives for shutting it down but you can also Blame Obama for not getting more democrats on board with it. He had a super majority in the house and senate when he came into office, and he didn't do anything meaningful with it.
Obama shoving through Obamacare as quickly as he did also created the problems in the Senate we have today such as the nuclear option. Obamacare and a lot of his other policies have also permanently fucked medicine pricing. Also You can argue that Obama is the entire reason the democratic party is so divided today and he really didn't cultivate working relationships with democrats well, a lot of them hated and still hate him.
Trump's tax cuts are divisive just like Bush's are, since economists are still arguing that they did or didn't do anything meaningful, Foreign Policy wise he was relatively successful and you can't say he wasn't, especially when compared to Obama or Bush. the Scotus thing is subjective, some people thought Obama's or even Biden's appointments were terrible and permanently damaging as well.
Edit: Also for Obama his regular drone attacks on civilian areas during the war on terror as well as the unsanctioned bombing of a US Citizen also counts as a thing he did wrong. Yes the dude was a terrorist but he was still an American and had the right to a fair trial. Obama didn't (And couldn't) suspend Habeus Corpus so that's still part of our law. He also jailed journalists, a lot. Man was like FDR and Wilson that way.
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The 'damage' you speak of is only from a very liberal perspective. I'm not going to try and 'educate' you, change your mind (Because political views and beliefs are too personal to be changed by some random over the internet) but I think there's an element of perspective you're lacking when it comes to how the 'other side' view his actions and where Trump's actions rank the whole catalogue of presidents.
1. He enacted huge tax cuts = I'm going to assume you mean tax cuts for billionaires and not the blanket tax cuts he did which also included people from the middle class. This doesn't inspire as much outrage from conservatives, because there's the idea that if a corporation has to pay less to the government, it means you don't have to pay as much to them for their goods and services. Or, optimistically, it means they can afford to pay their workers more. Does this always happen? No. Is it just trickle down economics? Hell yeah, and it sucks and is still being adhered to by a lot of the political class to this day, but the blanket cuts he enacted did at least positively impact the non-millionaires a little. Tax cuts don't really do much for the working class since they don't pay as much in taxes as those in the middle and upper classes, so yeah, the majority of Americans don't see a benefit from those cuts, but the people who pay the most into the system do feel it and they appreciate it. Liberal states, such as California, New York and those in New England, also don't feel the benefit quite as strongly since they're burdened with high taxes by their states regardless of what meagre cuts Trump can give them, so the benefits only appear to be entirely corporate-focused.
2. caused the deaths of hundreds of thousands with his mishandling of the pandemic = The entire world fucked this up. Early on there was a push by Trump and some governments around the world to essentially close the border from all outsiders, but this saw pushback at the time and was a non-starter. Once Covid was within the country, it fell out of the federal government's hands for the most part. The controversy over nursing home deaths in New York wasn't pinned on Trump, it was pinned on the governor because we understood that once it was here, it was up to the local governments to handle things since the only thing he could've done was effectively a non-starter (Closing the borders to everyone). You could've pushed for stricter rules from the top down, but certain states would baulk at the idea of the federal government telling them what to do, which would've included more states because it would've been Trump telling them what to do. 1.2 Million covid deaths isn't a good thing but it's hard to pin the blame on a sole figure when you can something like breaking it down by individual states. Just as blaming Biden for inflation is both wrong but easy, blaming Trump for the covid deaths is equally as reductionist.
3. set our SCOTUS up to be skewed for likely the next 2 generations = It sounds like extreme whataboutism, and it is, sort've, but this has been the case with the SCOTUS since almost its inception. Bill Clinton also appointed two supreme court justices. It's a bad thing, sure, if those justices aren't aligned with you politically - but it's not something that half the country will view was 'damaging'. I personally think this is a non-issue since the appointed justices are typically on death's door anyway. 'Generations' is hyperbole, it's likely the next 8 to 16 years.
4. I can't think of a single modern president who has done the kind of damage he has. = Bill Clinton: Appointed 2 supreme court justices and got America involved in the Kosovo war. The Al-Shifa Pharmaceutical Factory missile strike is also estimated to have killed tens of thousands indirectly. George Bush: Iraq war, which saw hundreds of thousands dead and kickstarting the global war on terror which might've lead to a lot of indirect deaths via terrorist attacks, wars, revolutions, etcetera and appointed 3 whole supreme court justices. Obama: Interventions in Iraq, and saw a general increase in US's global military presence (Can be blamed on Bush but Obama continued it, ditto for indirect deaths via terrorist attacks, revolutions, etcetera), became known for drone strikes, and appointed 2 supreme court justices. Biden and Trump are practically paragons in comparison.
I just got here. I've got peanut brittle. Anybody want peanut brittle?
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I honestly can't tell if you're for or against my derision of Trump's focus on petty trodding on of opposition, ignorance of actually popular issues, or grandstanding on realities he knows (or cares) nothing about.
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Small cuts for us, those ended years ago.
The problem with SCOTUS is not that we have conservative judges. It's that they were chosen out of a pool of loyalists to an idea instead of people who were qualified for the job. Oh, and it's apparently not illegal to bribe them. That's a problem too. But we'll call that one more of a Mitch McConnell policy, since Trump just rubber stamped the picks.
We had far more deaths than other countries by comparison. His policies of discouraging basic precautions had a lot to do with that.
More than anything else, though, has been his overall projecting distrust of the very system he wanted to lead.
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Everything I said in my previous comment about not trying to change your mind applies.
According to people on the Right, and you saw it from Trump's mouth in the run up to this 2024 run and during some of his podcast appearances, the people he chose for specific roles and jobs got criticised by members of his own base for not being loyal. Picks like Kavanaugh, who sided with the more liberal justices when it came to certain things. The only one I can recall was a vote on the Voting Right's act, where despite being hounded during his initial appointment and being chosen by Trump, ended up voting in accordance with the more liberal justices. The Right-wing in America has similar ideological fracturing as the Democrats do. Some people are picked for their roles in accordance to one faction of the party, some are chosen to adhere to another branch, etcetera. The particular criticism you're making here might be more true of his current term, but we just saw that Vivec was ousted from DOGE due to his friction with Trump's more MAGA-oriented base despite being a Trump pick himself.
Ideological loyalty isn't a Trump exclusive trait, or Republican specific. Biden received a lot of support in-party because Obama still has quite a lot of pull within the Democrats, and Biden was who got his endorsement. Mitch McConnel pulled funding from a governorship race because the Republican candidate was Trump-aligned. Despite being viewed as one of Trump's staunchest allies after his victory, DeSantis was also one of his most outspoken opponents in the republican presidential primaries.
I think when it comes to certain appointments, the person appointed might feel a degree of gratitude for the job, but that gratitude starts and ends if it A. goes against their own interests B. goes against their own beliefs. If after Trump leaves office it becomes political poison to position yourself as a Maga-aligned politician and it puts your cushy congressman job at risk, people will abandon the label in droves.
I think American politics is largely theatre, and I think it's rare outside of maybe judge appointments for anybody to get their job through sincere merit or qualification. But the grand crux of what I'm trying to say with this particular point is that I don't think you'll have to worry long-term (Beyond 4 to 12 years) of Trump's politics being in your life.
Comparing recorded cases of Covid, number of deaths from Covid, and total country population should be factored in why America's numbers aren't too bad, but I digress.
I'm going to make two points in response to this.
1.Early on there was still a fog of war surrounding Covid. We didn't know if it was a incredibly deadly, or something akin to the flu. At this time period, before it hit America proper, you could only look at examples from other countries on how to handle it and early on, countries like Sweden which pretended it didn't exist basically, were pointed at by the Right as precedent that lockdowns were unnecessary and would just lead to greater harm due to damage to the economy. There was the moral obligation to avoid suffering and death of course (I luckily didn't lose anything to Covid. Did catch it though from my parent) but there was also the pragmatism of keeping things going to keep the economy and people's livelihoods moving so you wouldn't have to pay for it later. (I think the current economy in not just the USA but much of the world is still due the way it is due to the lasting impacts of the lockdowns) When you see a lack of cases in Sweden, but skyrocketing numbers in France (who did implement lockdowns), inconsistency on how deadly it is (I remember seeing a 10% rate of death early into Covid, some numbers were less than a percent) and the fact it's already in your country, what do you do?
2. Picture yourself back during Covid, you've seen Europe in lockdown and its spread. Trump is proposing a complete border shutdown and complete cessation of all flights in and out of the country, like he did, he doesn't stop there. You will also not be allowed to leave your home during specific times, must wear a facemask at all times outside, maintain social distancing rules and all unnecessary venues must be shutdown. This is what we got in countries like the UK. It might sound reasonable to you in a vacuum - but Trump is the one proposing these. Do you trust these precautions if he's the one proposing them? Especially if there's no end-date to these personal restrictions? That's a part of why I don't think such precautions came from the top-down and the burden was put on the states instead. It would also, in theory, lower the financial burden on the federal government, but that's just an aside.
I think in the end, Trump left it to the states because when one looks at it as a political issue, not a moral or health one, one side approved more of the lockdowns than the other, so he appeased his side by doing nothing. Some states implemented strong lockdown measures and mask mandates, others did nothing, some did a bit of both.
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This isn't exclusive to those opposed to Trump, just so you're aware. It's a back and forth of saying that the systems in place are delegitimised and devalued by the actions of their opponents. The examples I'll list for what the conservative-wing would accuse the Democrats of doing. Now, saying this, I understand completely that those doing those actions believe themselves completely justified and those who support those doing them don't see it as such.
George Bush jr signed an executive order upon coming into creating the Office of Faith-Based and Community Initiatives, which one could argue is a step towards the integration of faith and state, which are supposed to be separate. During Obama's era, people said he weaponised the IRS against republican organisations, and the whole NSA scandal broke under him. Under Trump, his appointment of a 3rd supreme court judge was viewed as a break from tradition and a violation of some unspoken pact, and his cordial relations with NK was a betrayal of America's allies. Under Biden, the numerous cases against Trump were seen as a violation of neutrality that judges are supposed to uphold, and the fact Biden was in charge whilst having a mental decline was proof that the president wasn't actually the president.
There are many more examples for every president (I'm definitely forgetting a lot for Bush, apologies) and the points made by those opposed to the person in power are numerous and nuanced but it doesn't impact by overall point, which is twofold: First, the devaluing of the presidency or the institutions that make up government isn't one-way, it's perceived as happening all time by everybody against both sides. Secondly, the numerous institutions and systems within America are only viewed as sacred when politically convenient, but useful as a tool/weapon against political opponents whenever necessary by those who can use and occupy them. These institutions aren't viewed as sacred cows by those in power, and they'll gladly they that they are if it helps to rile people up into anger against their political opponents.
At the end of this, I'm not trying to convince you to change beliefs or anything like that, I just think - and this is applicable to Wanderer D - that, ultimately, politics is something you don't necessarily need to feel strongly about. And that things won't be as bad as your worst fears, but won't reach the highs of your most optimistic dreams. The back and forth, the aggression, the idea that the sky is falling every single time your guy doesn't get elected, isn't necessary when you can look at the precedent set by the generally mundane actions of your political opponents but also the equally mundane choices made by your selected politicians. The ultimate vestment of the guys elected is in themselves, and if you're lucky, they might believe and care about the things they say but in the end, they just need to keep being elected in order to keep their job and the benefits that come with it (Book deals, insider trading, donation money, etcetera).
No, I am not a centrist.
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So you do or don't think the former of what I said is more important then the latter?
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The maple syrup IS very tempting, but you have a bit of a housing crisis. I don't want to make that worse for you when some basic homes in Canada are almost as expensive as some.european castles! I do wish you the best of luck.
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True, but he's replacing the entire staff with sycophants so he may just power through.
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He can't get important things done with the house and senate, and those people know he will never have to win an election again. They on the other hand...
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To be clear, that idea was killing Roe V Wade. With that accomplished, they don't have loyalty to him directly, only to party.
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I apologise, misunderstanding what you meant by 'idea'. I thought you meant the idea of 'Maga'.
I get what you mean though. I also think it's more than that, because the Republican party isn't united in beliefs, even if they present a united front. Think Democrats and progressives(AOC), neolibs(Warren), socdems(Sanders), DINOs (Fetterman, Gabbard), etcetera. In the Republican party you got your neocons(Graham), libertarians(Ron Paul), paleocons(Desantis), RINOs (Liz Cheney, Kyrsten Sinema), etcetera.
Because 3rd party is seen as a wasted vote, the Dems and Republicans are just kitchen sink parties for the two halves of the political compass. Think how Elizabeth Warren has different politics from AOC, this exists within the Republican party too, but this has only become more apparent in recent years as the unity that came about as a result of 9/11 has gradually faded. I still remember the teary-eyed AOC voting on a bill to give money to Israel the rest of her party approved despite disagreeing with it personally. The smaller factions are forced to vote in-line with the larger factions and hope they can occasionally slither their ideas into the odd bill if they get the chance.
Kavanaugh isn't loyal to the party I'd argue, more so loyal to the leadership of the Republican party, which despite being president, Trump isn't. It's why he voted yes to overturning Roe vs Wade but upheld a bill the bill I mentioned previously, which Trump's base wouldn't approve of. The Republican party upper echelons are dominated by the religious right, but due to the way Republicans do primaries, they aren't necessarily kingmakers when it comes to who runs for president, which is why they have friction with Trump. Had they the similar level of control that the upper echelons of the Democrats do over their primaries, then the 2015 candidate likely would've been Jeb Bush and the 2024 candidate would've been Mike Pence. Same way the Democrat party leadership practically handpicked Biden and Clinton over a populist like Bernie Sanders and how an actual billionaire couldn't buy the position.
Roe Vs Wade was a point of contention within the Republican party believe it or not, since it was definitely an optics issue. Whilst the MAGA crowd support it being overturned on principle, there was also the worry that it'd cost Trump the election in 2024, which caused a lot of friction within the party. Some people said it was outright sabotage by those who just wanted to ensure Trump didn't come to power, even if it cost them 2024. Remember that some senior Republicans wanted to push for it to be criminalised nationwide? Yeah, that was seen as some as a move to spite Trump and ensure he lost the election in case overturning Roe vs Wade wasn't enough.
There is an ideological fracturing within the Republican party that is allowing a lot of the smaller faction's ideas to rise to the surface and see consideration (Trump pardoned the Silk Road founder as a bone to the libertarians) and I think if the Dems underwent a similar phase, a lot more populist ideas will see some serious consideration - there's no reason why universal healthcare should be considered unattainable for example, nor should money have as much sway in politics as it currently does. Now that the election is over, maybe a candidate who doesn't lockstep with the leadership might emerge and be so popular that the leadership can't just override it.