Its not for nothing the prinz eugen was named the "lucky ship". If prinz eugen was with bismark when it faced the swordfish it would have help but not that much maybe shot down a few plane. The fact that swordfish are so slow and low that the bismark could not have bring her gun low enough.

Hitler was a great strategist on earth (we will not count barbarosa) and one of the greatest motivator but as you said he did not understand sea power. Goering did not like the kriegsmarine so he delaid graf-zeppelin and said it could not ne ready until 1945 when they could have it for 1940 or at least 1942

The kriegsmarine and german are good engineer and do ships of great quality (proven by bismark), but even if you know how good u-boats are, they make too much of them and used the ressources that would have been used to build graf-zeppelin.

On the pacific the japanese did a lot of mistake, the first one is pearl harbor (dont attack the states you know they will come back at you) because they attacked but there was not any american AC, i mean sure they sinked a lot of battleships, but they mostly loss because of american naval air power (uss enterprise and others). But after midway where they lost four carrier it all go down. After they lost the powerfull twins shokaku and zuikaku the naval was praticly finished, then they start doing suicidal mission (see tan-go) they also lost every experimented pilot so that left naval aviation useless even when the us had no AC in serviceand send the biggest non-factor of the war (guess what it is) in a suicide mission on the tan-go mission wich failed.

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Well, Prince of Wales could have damaged even further the Bismark, but given the early sinking of the Hood she was doomed to withdraw, now, what could have happened next? I guess Prinz Eugen would have been forced to escort back the Bismark, maybe either dooming both ships, or helping save her by using her potentially more effective AA fire against the Swordfishes that jammed her rudder.

Back on a German AC, had it been exploited effectively by the Kriegmarine it could have become a game changer during the battle of the Atlantic, and assuming a more aggressive use of German battleships and heavy cruiser thanks to her, it could have eventually lead to the starving of the British isles, specially during 1940/41, when the US was still neutral and Barbarossa was still on the works, but who knows? After all, Britain still relied on its all powerful empire, and the RN although small after the Washington Naval Treaty, was still a very effective, very experienced force.

Now, we can't  put all the blame on Raeder or Donitz, after all 1) Hitler had too much influence over a force he never understood, 2) Goering was an all-around asshole that never provided enough aerial support for the Kriegmarine only because he felt like it, and 3) Regardless of the quality of its ships, the german fleet was both small and considerably inexperienced compared to the RN, mostly because the treaty of Versailles pretty much stripped imperial Germany of its fleet, and only until 1935 the new reich started a serious attempt at rebuilding it.

Also do you think prince of whales could have change things if her gun where working perfectly against bismark.

I dont think it would be able to take englamnd (because its practicly untakable because its an island) but i think she could have done major domage to the british fleet and maybe even pull a pearl harbor. I also think the nazi where horrible strategist at sea

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Well, not so much England, but it could at least have made the Kriegmarine's surface fleet more capable in both commerce raiding and fighting against the royal navy, specially during the disastrous naval campaign during the invasion of Norway.  

But at the same time, had there been an active german aircraft carrier (the Zeppelin and/or her sister), I'm sure it would have become top priority for the RN and RAF to destroy it, just like the Bismark, Scharnhorst and to lesser degree the Tirpitz were during the war.

Do you think the fact germany didn't have a airplane carrier in service (i know about graf zeppelin) could have changed something in the outcome of the war. (I also know about goering being a dick about the project and the plane)

Could they have taken england

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Sure, why not?

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I only know about navy. But i know about every type of ship of ww2. Thats a hell of a ship but i think they should have inverse the gun of behind and front so there is three gun on the front ( maybe its impossible because of balance) but do you know the caliber of the cannon. Yamato suck because first the the system that aim suck and the canon take 2 min to reload plus the material for the rmor was cheap