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I'm an irritating fangirl who also writes. A lot of my stuff is sad. I am sometimes overly sex-positive, so if you are sex-negative, I might have called you an elitist taint jockey. Sorry about that.

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2615153

It's actually there for a reason, although perhaps not the most well-thought-out reason possible. This is a little bit of an experiment, and I'm not exactly great at romance. :facehoof:

I hope the storyline doesn't disappoint! There are two chapters after this which should be up before the end of the week, and I'm working on a sequel already. :pinkiehappy:

Conflicting story tags. Were you here when Wanderer D mentioned those?

This seems to be a rather interesting story. I really look forward to reading more of it as you add to it. Keep up the great writing!

2617066

I guess I'm not seeing the conflict? I've read sad, dark, tragic romances before.

2617087

Awww, thank you! :pinkiehappy: The rest should be up this week. It's all written, I'm just getting my editor to take a pass through it.

I'm glad you like it!

2617203 It was a bit of an issue before, I guess since people aren't really complaining much about it, it's not really getting anyone else's attention. It was a rule that Sad and Tragedy were not to be paired up. :twilightsheepish:

2617262

Well, I thought the definition of tragedy was a story where the villain wins, and sad was a story designed to evoke unhappiness. I can imagine stuff that only fits one or the other. :twilightsmile: I guess if I had to pick one of the other I'd pick Tragedy to stay, since the story isn't distinctly sad until the ending -- but overall, Tavi's controlled little life makes me pretty sad.

I know the system won't let you put Comedy and Sad in the same fic, which (although I know it was abused) seems a little wrong to me. I can imagine a sad comedy that doesn't have a tragic ending. The Slice-of-Life/Adventure exclusivity thing makes sense to me, though.

Not that it matters what makes sense to me. It's not my site. :pinkiehappy:

EDIT: Do you mean this?

The story seems interesting and unique. I haven't really read an Octavia/Vinyl Fic that's centered around mind control. Can't wait to see how this turns out, but its pretty good so far though. Keep up the good work.

2617476

There's at least one other, but with different roles: Let The Music Flow. It's angled more towards clop, though. (Not that I have a problem with clop, trust me. :twilightblush: )

2617300 Noo, it wasn't that one. The one I meant was about conflicting story tags. It stated that (Don't quote me on this):

Sad and Tragedy should not be paired because a tragedy always has that 'light of hope,' if you will, and it has a tragic ending. A sad story is something that is, for lack of a better word, sad for most of the story, but ends relatively happy. A story that is sad throughout then has a tragic ending would be redundant because the whole thing is sad, there is no 'light of hope.'

I don't remember what the exact words were, but that was pretty much the jist of it. Then again, it is pretty general. I'm sure someone's tried to pull it off just to spite that blog. :rainbowwild:
Hope this has helped in some way! :rainbowkiss:

2619231

:rainbowhuh: I don't know. I've never really gotten the 'ray of hope' thing, personally. I always thought of tragedies as the stories where the villain wins, regardless of any 'this could be saved some way eventually'. Whether they're sad or not isn't necessarily a foregone conclusion, because the overall effect isn't necessarily sadness. (Case in point: Trainspotting. The second half of that film is fucking well devastating in terms of how depressing it is. The first half feels like a vicodin high plus a snort of klonopin -- good, in short. It's arguably not a tragedy, but it's still a major downer, and the only reason I wouldn't qualify it as a tragedy is because the winner is something of an antihero, but he's still better than Begbie. If Begbie had taken the money and shot all the rest of them, I'd call it a tragedy.)

The system won't let you pair certain tags, but it let me do Sad and Tragedy, and by my (personal) definition of tragedy this still fits.

Maybe that's just me, though. :pinkiecrazy:

2619231

From the link I asked about:

That's another thing. Even if they're supposed to be tragic, they should have at least a glimmer of a hope by the end, even if it's just the ponies moving on. In my opinion, if a story ends with no significant change in the characters but a sea of tears, I feel that my time has been wasted.

Which isn't the same thing as saying 'sad and tragedy shouldn't be paired' to me, but I suppose it's up to interpretation. :twilightsmile:

2619259 Wow... hot damn, you sure know how to make a point. And you did it well. While I still have my opinion, I respect how well you stood up for yours. For that, have a 'stache. :moustache:

Well done, and good day. :rainbowkiss: (<-- I freaking adore this emote. No matter how much I use it.)

2619287

'Stache accepted, sir, and I can certainly respect a difference of opinion -- particularly one that's been handled in a civil fashion. :yay:

2619379 One thing I know we can agree on... I wish there were more people like you and I! :rainbowkiss:
But not everyone, then there would be no one to make fun of or troll. :rainbowwild:

That was amazing. This is one of few stories i have read and commented on. And I only comment on stories that i think deserve it. You definitely deserve it because you just wrote an amazing story! But if i had that power and had Vinyl or some other pony under control i would not use them for what Octavia did, Id just be like "Rub my feet"

2622121

I appreciate it! I'm glad you found it amazing. I had good help with it. ^.^

That's kind of the point -- she's so repressed, unlike most people. So when she gets absolute power over someone else, her id starts driving.

I'm already about 1/3 of the way through writing a sequel, and I'm also considering writing some side stories about different ponies discovering the Sonatina. :pinkiehappy:

2622333

Positively delicious!

Once again I find Psychology in a cruel format, bravo!

I guess I could add some more senseless praise but I shall skip that.

:twilightblush: Delicious praise! Delicious, delicious pra -- :twilightoops: -- I mean, ah, yes, of course. :twilightsmile:

Studying sound waves and their effects on the human mind is something I am still very much active in and this is exactly the focus many of my fellows aim towards, mind control, which is laughable really when you consider the fact, as you said, that there are too many variables.

Yeah, justifying it in-story requires some unholy psychology/science/magic, or a combination of two or three of them. That's one of the things I like about writing MLP fic: Magic! It's just there! Everyone accepts it. :yay:

This story is beautifull for many reasons, the biggest is Tavi's obvious fall into the madness of power and then the instant regret when her humanity crops up (ponanity?). Anyway I love this story and its theme so have a Like, a Watch and a Follower.

(I like 'equinity', because it fits with the way the ponies see themselves as 'above' other animals, much the same way humans do.)

I'm really glad you liked it! ^.^ I've got more of the story planned, as I mentioned in other comments. Hopefully I can keep walking this tightrope. :pinkiehappy:

...and vinyl just wanted to say "hi"

i positively feel like :raritycry: any chance for some happy octascratch?

[also, are some settings for the story a bit off? faving got me 2 unread chapters and they wont go away for some reason]

2623862

There's a sequel in the works, but I can't figure out a way to redeem a rapist in the eyes of the reader. I do want to do more Vinyl and Tavi, but the Sonatina versions are pretty much destined for a bad end. (I've only managed to come up with one possibly happy ending to this, but it feels like a real ass pull to me. I might drop it as an alternate, though.)

Nobody else has mentioned a problem with the chapters. Dunno. :unsuresweetie:

part of me, oddly enough, would like to see more not-so-happy octavia and vinyl stories since fimfiction is flooded with the happy ones. did you by chance take some inspiration from another writer who had vinyl using mind control on an unwilling octavia using her music? I did notice a few similarities, but in yours you didn't leave vinyl a mind slave to octavia, so I'm wondering where your sequel will go when they meet again.

I'm also curious if there's more backstory to Octavia you'll bring up. she sure seems to have a profound need of control, over everything and everyone. will you push octavia towards a more sadist impulse? could she take pleasure in inflicting physical and permanent mental harm on other ponies? then of course, knowing that sonatina can make her concerts more profitable, that she can literally force through suggestion that dubstep or other forms of music that aren't classical to dissapear, or other musicians to take up a new career.

but what I really wanna see is the sonatina backfire epically on octavia. I'd actually be happy seeing Octavia crumble and fall apart, the karma circle punishing her for forcing another mind to her will. brainwashing of any form I can never appreciate, and the people involved in it. okay, now I sound like the sadist. :pinkiecrazy:

Very deep and psychological. I like it. :twilightsmile:

2624733

A lot of the next one is Octavia breaking down because she can't forget what she's done.

Let The Music Flow is one of my favorite guilty pleasures, yes. :twilightblush: It seemed OOCish to me that Vinyl would take pleasure in controlling other ponies, though, and that's kind of where this came from.

We're all capable of sadism. No worries. :pinkiecrazy: (And FWIW, I don't like this mind-control-rapist Octavia either. That's part of why I don't want to go for an actual happy ending, really; Victim Falls For Rapist is a pretty disgusting trope.)

2624852

i shall here on these tenterhooks and patiently await the next part :raritystarry:


oh well, maybe i'll pm a mod for help some day...when there are like 10 buggy stories

And here I thought I was the only one who reversed the Vinyl/Tavi dynamic. Perhaps I should clean up my little drabble.

2624970

Vinyl always struck me as the sort who'd make the first move, but out of exuberance, not actual dominance.

I look forward to reading yours! :pinkiesmile:

2624939

It might be a bit! Careful with those tenterhooks! :twilightsmile:

2625009

i'll quench the pain with more stories :pinkiecrazy:.
and there's no need to hurry...the result is what counts, not the time it takes to complete

Extremely interesting and awesomely original. Thoroughly enjoyed it!

2632104

Well, I can't claim it's absolutely entirely original -- I was kind of inspired by Let The Music Flow -- but I'm glad you liked my take on musical mind control! :pinkiehappy:

I'm working on a sequel already. More emotional devastation! MOAR! :pinkiecrazy:

2632114 I was referring more to your particular characterization of Octavia. I've read few fics where she could afford to take a chill pill or two, but ZOHMYGOD is this one ever a bitch! It's certainly an interesting take on her.
And I definitely see a similarity between this and "Let the Music Flow". Namely, the desire to throttle the one doing the controlling for their apparent and extreme lack of empathy. You sir, have made me angry. WELL DONE :yay:

2632217

Oh! Well, thank you! :pinkiehappy: I was shooting for 'ice queen given unimaginable power', and I think I kind of hit it.

Of course, now she's obsessed with Vinyl and doesn't realize getting rid of what you're obsessed with leads to withdrawal. :pinkiecrazy: You might get angry again if you read the next one. :twilightsmile:

Damnit, that ending made me really sad.
In a good way, the fic was really well-written and did a fantastic job of invoking emotion, it just...

I'm not used to clopfics giving me feels.
Vinyl Scratch was so nice, and Octavia totally abused her!
:raritycry:

2632114
Ah, Let The Music Flow, I can definitely see the similarities.
Gosh, when mind-control gets thrown into Vinyl and Octavia's relationship things sure do take a turn down grimdark alley rather fast, huh?

2632478

Yeah, being in this Octavia's head isn't all that pleasant. So tightly wound, so closed off, and now she got her first taste of power. Plus, she's obsessed with Vinyl and she's going to go through withdrawal (so to speak).

Someday I'm going to have to write something happy. Someday. :fluttercry:

2632486
This Octavia is definitely one cruel cookie.
I don't think I've ever felt so bad for Vinyl before.
:twilightoops:

2634457

She certainly has her issues. :twilightsmile: I'm glad you enjoyed the ride!

Well done! An engaging read some unexpected developments (and while Vinyl is more or less a blank slate, Octavia's character was darkly fascinating).

I confess that I find myself intrigued by Noteworthy most of all, though. The diffident, would-be coltfriend. I've no doubt you have plans for him in these 'side stories' you mentioned, though I wonder if he'll lose what little will he seems to have... or find power more to his taste.


2624852
This may have just been my failure as a writer, but I was trying to convey Vinyl not as a sadist, or a pony who seeks satisfaction in dominance, but as an incredibly misguided altruist. Somepony who actually believes they are improving others' lives by freeing them from responsibilities (the orchestra makes you unhappy? The quit. You come to a nightclub to have fun? Let go of all your inhibitions).

2652563

Noteworthy gets played with a little in one of the side stories I have in mind, but Sacred Sonatina (and Sacred Sonatina 2: Electric Boogaloo) are almost entirely about Octavia.

The hedonist spreading hedonism was an angle that hadn't really occurred to me, and I don't want to say it was a failure on your part -- it probably wasn't. I read it as a sort of damaged love: Vinyl wants Tavi to be happy so much she's willing to resort to mind control, and doesn't realize she's imposing her sexual fantasies on her. (I frequently read sadistic pleasure into things that lack it.)

I have my own set of issues, yes -- why do you ask? :pinkiecrazy:

Music is Magic... unnecessary clop is unnecessary, but I love the idea, breaking into old earth pony magic through song. Magnificent. :D

2704367

The intention is to demonstrate that Octavia's repression of her sexuality is A Really Bad Thing. This gets examined in depth in the next installment -- the reasons she repressed it, the fallout from what she's done, and the emotional breakdown from understanding why she did it.

I felt the sex scenes were important. If you didn't, then I'm glad you liked the story despite them. :pinkiehappy:

2704408
Oh, I loved the story, it was a great little read, even had some nice feels at the end. ;n; Scratch all sad 'n stuff knowing that she is going to forget.

2704562

I really am glad to hear it. :twilightsmile: Hopefully the next one doesn't disappoint!

2704594

Time will tell, but I like your writing style. So just give it the love and care it needs and I will possibly read it. :rainbowwild: If I have space for it... I read like 129819461398471 fics at a time so yea.

2707457

I've been struggling with it a bit in private, honestly, but it'll get out. I have no intention of rushing it. :twilightsmile:

Ah... Thank you for the pain, thank you for the heartache, thanks for the misery, that disturbs my waking state.

If only, if only, I could... go back... Remove the memories of the pain... ful past.

Now I lay, scared and... alone. Waiting for you... who'll never, come home...

Amazing story, perfectly executed. And the way the complications came in at the end... Beautiful.
Thanks for creating such a work,
Zeta

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I'm glad you liked it! :twilightsmile:

I'm working on a continuation. My motto is always "NOT ENOUGH PAIN YET, MORE PAIN, MORE PAIN!"

Seriously, I am working on a continuation. (I mean, who goes home with bruises on their face and missing time and doesn't try to find out why? :raritywink: Other than me, I mean. I drink a lot. :unsuresweetie: )

'Tavi's really taking the piss out of Vinyl. :twistnerd:

I really like this characterization, and I want more. :rainbowwild: It's very uniquely placed compared to almost all Vinyl and Octavia stories. I kind of wanted Octavia to keep Vinyl as a pet, but that's just my fetish. Even in a non-cloppy way, I think that sort of story would be interesting, too.

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