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NachoTheBrony


Mexican. Polymath. Tourism Degree. Lives in Cancun, and has lived in Toronto, Mexico City and on the road. Likes to give free vacation advice. Unlikely to give you a free vacation.

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In order to ‘discord’ the Elements of Harmony, Discord had to switch their cores with those of creatures that were opposite to them. And later on, with Discord being rock, there was no way to send them back home.

This is the story of one of the six Antitheses of Harmony. One who had a life and was happy on Earth.


This story has gone on hiatus. Sorry: real life.

Chapters (11)
Comments ( 35 )

Keep going this is a good story

okay, while I can't agree with your depiction of their technology(and the fact that you compared their technology to ancient greece and yet they had noncommunal baths with plumbing without toilets, which were invented by the harappan civilization more than a millenium before the greeks came to notoriety[admittedly they were more or less trenches with seats over them that had water running through them but still]) it's a very well written story and I applaud you for that

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I don't have the data at hand (I'm not at home), but those communal toilets relied on having continuously running water, so they where a novelty that exclusively existed on thermas. So much is that toilets were a novelty that history mentions that the Roman emperor Nero would use a new chamber pot every night.
Furthermore, flushing toilets are a very recent development, not being broadly used until the 19th century.

And thanks.

2719467 true, and the tech levels I was mentioning being off mainly were those of the ponies as they have been shown to have electrical speakers, turntables lights, and ovens(as well as having both tanks and bullets being mentioned, but those are removed by most authors) but it's your story and if you desire to make them have an alternate to the canon tech, it is fully your decision.

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The canonical tech level is extremely inconsistent, with trains being first seen as being pulled by ponies, to then being pulled by their locomotives (as a matter of fact, I'm making up explanations for that on chapters 6 and 7).
Turntables predate electrical amplification, electrical engines and even vinyl. A fully mechanical turntable is called a phonograph, and before vinyl disks there were wax cylinders.
You can have non-electrical spotlights, theatrical lights and even searchlights. Go and check the terms "limelight", "gaslight" and "type-D fire".
Leonardo Da Vinci was already sketching tanks and all sorts of war engines, well before anybody had ever heard of steam power (not counting the Ancient Greek steam turbine, as it was nothing but an almost unknown curiosity).
Gunpowder can be kind of sketchy, but I'm imagining that they know only of the earliest type, not the proper high-yield, humidified-then-dried type.

The speakers and the gysmos in Twilight's basement: despite there being at least one technology that could power speakers without electricity I'm taking the excuse of both of them being operated by unicorns that could power them with magic.

And I don't understand why you mention ovens. I could understand tabletop coffee machines, toasters and toaster ovens, but why ovens?

2724127 if I recall correctly sugarcube corner has an oven which has absolutely nowhere that an external or internal flame could be stored, though I may be wrong it's been awhile since I watched episodes with a kitchen in them, but in classical bakeries pre-electricity you'd usually have a huge wood-fired oven taking up most if not all of the kitchen space which is definitely absent in sugarcube corner so as to be able to maintain the various temperatures necessary for the different baked goods. and as for gunpowder, they also used fireworks in the canterlot wedding episode, which also contains what actually appears to be an induction stovetop.

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About the oven: I just saw Pinkie's oven, and it looks to me like a normal domestic oven. And to me, a gas oven is the norm. Electric ovens are rarities to me, except for toaster ovens.
Another possibility would be a steam powered kitchen, with a basement boiler. It would be antieconomical to have that in an apparent domestic kitchen (like Pinkie's), but it would actually be very economical in a real commercial kitchen. It would be kind of hard to create the heat all the way up to proper baking temperatures (the very reason why steam power is common for industrial scale skillets and stock pots, but unknown in most forms of baking), but it also explains Pinkie's tabletop mixer.

That stove that appears on A Canterlot Wedding Part 1, on 11:43, looks like a very simplified drawing of any commercial-grade gas stove I have ever seen. Besides, every non-movable, commercial-grade induction stove I have ever seen has square pads, not round.

Something else I forgot to mention about tanks: I don't know about pre-Roman, but the Romans were already employing two tank-like technologies: the turtle infantry formation (everybody having tower shields and locking them together), and the armoured siege ram. Neither of them relied on anything but human ingenuity, grit and teamwork.

Human history is rich in alternative technologies.

Besides, we got magic in this world. That can simplify a million explanations.

Anything else?
BTW, I'm not being sarcastic: I hadn't previously noticed Pinkie's blender. Thanks.

2727721 not really that I can think of right now, and like I said in the beginning, it's your story and you can write their tech as you please. it's just a very interesting topic to me how most people tend to forget the small things which have been shown or mentioned. (and as for the word tank, which rainbow names her tortoise after[clearly referring to the vehicle whereas previously rarity used the term and could have been referring to a water tank or something similar] the word was only used for the vehicle beginning in 1915 because the laborers were under the impression that they were making mobile water tanks). and I can understand your referring to gas for most things(though that's also a fairly recent tech used in kitchens anyway) but I myself have only ever seen one house which had gas instead of electric appliances and the simplified drawings for appliances apply both to gas and electric, I was saying it looked like induction because it looks more like an induction if you think of it as more detailed.

I like this... I like this a lot. can't wait for the next chapter.:heart:

pretty good story so far. the main protagonist seems like he is Italian or Brazilian. I give this story a 6/10.

And don't forget that the Spanish took almost all the gold form Mexico and South America.

Dude since I learned about the meaning of Mexico's name, I began to read Fanfics about Luna, and how much I want to tell about the moon and Mexico's history. And belly rubs.

Here is a lullaby my parents thought me
Luna, luna dame una tuna la que mediste callo en la laguna....

Getting drunk to write a drunk journal entry?
BRILLIANT!

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I wouldn't really call it brilliant. The original plan called for scanning the sheet of amate paper (Aztec parchment) but, well, not even I could read it. So I had to write it anew once I sobered up.
Not my finest moment.

I tried to make a point of typing right before going to bed, or right after waking up, so the style would come natural.

Wow! You really do try and get into the characters perspective!
Nice work!

Well... rather nice story
I do believe you might add mature some day in the future... his "needs" are going to make him crazy soon

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Uh?

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I do believe you might add mature some day in the future

I wish to cross that bridge if I ever get to it. While the psychological load is already head and shoulders above the rating, the content remains safe.

his "needs" are going to make him crazy soon

Blame Luna: she almost killed him from not letting him rest at night. See the Insomnia chapters.

3985613 I don't blame her. .. she wants to have some fun too

This is the type of stories I fucking love.
HiE, learning new language, slow and steady/slice of life, pony society backstory, some inventions, mature themes not just for the sake of "and then they fucked". Also, I may be the only one, but I kinda dislike his log in the specialized "notes" thingie, it looks off from my dark background.

> "I became convinced that my phone was really not finding a single satellite."

In the latest episode of the Skeptics' Guide to the Universe, Doctrix Santa Maria seems to believe that GPS-Devices communicate 2-ways with the satellites. :eeyup. "¡Nope!"

He missed out on the ultimate die, in the shape of a Disdyakis Triacontahedron, ¡the D120!

> "Specifically, I have two d20’s, two d10’s and six d6’s. Oh yeah, I had a D&D appointment for tonight."

¡The D10 is not a proper die!:

I may be a snob, but I prefer purist, for I only consider proper die to be platonic and Catalan Solids.

Q/Discord really created a mess. …. again.At least he did not introduce the ponies to the Borg.

> "A week after that, while I was working with the linguists to try to make sense of the local system of measurements, the white queen had me summoned into her (…unsurprisingly modest…) chambers. She discretely returned my reverence, then guided me to her rest room and pointed me at her barrel-sized chamber pot."

But … but … ¡Alicorn Princesses do not poop!" :scootangel:

If I understand the description of the numerical system, it uses unary up to the base of powers of the base like thus:

AAAAAAAAA

Next is B

DDDCCCCBBBBBBBAAAA = 3,474

Roman Numerals evolved in a similar way from tally marks. Just look at 1 to 3:



¿Which base to they use?

It they have not quite settled on a base, I suggest either [url=HTTP:/WikiPedia.Org/wiki/sexigesimal] Sexigesimal (Base60) or Balanced Ternary:

On all unbalanced bases, Sexigesimal is perhaps the best base because 60 is a superior highly composite number with 12 factors:

1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 10, 12, 15, 20, 30, and 60.

Because of RadixEconomy, balanced ternary is the best base. Its digits are -1, 0, and +1. One usually represents "-1" wby "T", "0" by "0", and "+1" by 1.

T01 = 8 = (-(1)(3^2)+(0)(3^1}(+1)(3^0)

About currency, I once worked out this system for DnD:

I once created a campaign, which never got a chance play, where the people ise sexagesimal. Since 3-ing does not work well in sexagesimal, they use fractions of the superior highly composite number 360, with fractions of a Gold on 1 side, and the number of coppers on the other side:

  • 1, 1/360
  • 2, 1/180
  • 3, 1/120
  • 4, 1/90
  • 5, 1/72
  • 6 1/60
  • 8, 1/45
  • 9, 1/40
  • 10, 1/36
  • 12, 1/30
  • 15, 1/24
  • 18, 1/20
  • 20, 1/18
  • 24, 1/15
  • 30, 1/12
  • 36, 1/10
  • 40, 1/9
  • 45, ⅛
  • 60, ⅙
  • 72, ⅕
  • 90,¼
  • 120, ⅓
  • 180, ½
  • 360, 1/1

Most prices are in fractions of a Gold. The Copper has a purchasing power of 1 Euro; so now, a Gold is like 360-Euro bill. All denominations are copper excep 3:

  • 120, ⅓ is Silver.
  • 180, ½ is Electrum.
  • 360, 1/1 is Gold

The coins are reeded, in the shape Rouleaux Triangles, and have 3 holes in them for stringing and alignment.

As an example, if one is lonely, one can get female companionship for a Silver, but the bordello has a deal going where one gets 2 courtesans for an electrum and 5 courtesans for a gold.

If you prefer RadixEconomy, I give an example in decimal:

  • 00.01
  • 000.03
  • 000.10
  • 000.30
  • 001.00
  • 003.00
  • 010.00
  • 030.00
  • 100.00

Unfortunately, 3-thing breaks in Sexiigesimal:

1, 3,, 10,, 30, and 60. The jump from 30 to is 2x. The other way is 60, 20, 6, 2, 1. The jump between 2 and 1 is x/2. Is we use 30, it works perfectly:

1, 3, 10, and 30.

A complete system might look like thus:

A metal of the next value is 30 of the metal of the previous value.

It would be thus:

01 Copper
03 Coppers
10 Coppers
01 Silver
03 Silvers
10 Silvers
01 Elecrum
03 Electra
10 Electra
01 Gold
03 Golds
10 Golds

1 Gold is worth 2,700 Coppers. A 10-Gold Coin (really a coin-shaped GoldBrick) is worth 27,000 coppers. If 1 copper is worth 1 Euro, a 10-Gold coin is worth about ¼th of a GoldBrick.

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Hi, Walabio.

I based it all on the Aztec numeral system, which has two relevant characteristics:

  • Entirely glyph based, rather than positional (glyph in position). You could write 5864 as (five thousand)(eight hundred)(sixty)(four) or (four)(five thousand)(sixty)(eight hundred) and both would be correct.
  • Base 20.

Mayan is entirely positional, with no glyphs other than dots to represent units and dashes to represent fives. Do keep in mind that is vigesimal, and they did have a zero:

0=0

*=1

** =2

***=3

****=4

--- =5

****
---
---
--- = 19

----
----
----
---- =20

0

* =21

**
---

** =47

0

0

* =400

0

0

0

* =8,000

0

0

0

0

* =160,000

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Vegisemal is no worse than decimal, but not better. It can be approved by adding more primes to the bas and increasing the number of factors. This leads to highly composite numbers and superior highly composite numbers. Our mathematics would be easier if we would use duodecimal instead of decimal. 12 is such a better way to cut pizzas that the local pizzeria, has a guide letting them cut pizzas that way:

One can easily chop a pizza into 16 pieces, but if the number of people wanting to eat the pizza is a multiple of 3, they will fight. A pizza cut into 12ths evenly feeds 1, 2, 3, 4, 6, or 12 people.

Being able to randomize the characters in the number is problematic even for simple operations like addition and subtraction. I am certain that the protagonist will fix this and also make all numerals the same width.

The ponies probably will want to keep vegismal, but the protagonist can probably get them to accept equal-sized numerals representing the digits 0-19 and a positional system.

All the units being interrelated and powers of each other sounds doable.

Reform of the currency would be nice too.

The protagonist is lucky to still be alive after drinking the alcoholic beverage:

If their alcohol would have methanol in it, which their livers may be able to process, it could blind or even kill humans.

The measures for length, area, and volume are really the same; the LengthUnit raised to either the 1st, 2nd, or 3rd power.

At this point, one only needs time, mass, and temperature. One can derive most other units from these units. Electrical Potential (Amperes), Thermodynamic Temperature (absolute temperature as in DegreesKelvin), amount of a substance (Moles or Avogadro's Number), and Luminous Intensity (Candelas) will probably have to wait. Working with the PonyPhysicists, he can add these units to new System of measures in a decade or so.

¡The protagonist can become the great Metrologist!

In your telegraph and typewrites do not make the mistake we did of using the safe code for telegraph and glyph for typewriters for different things, such as l, I ,1 and|. This brings up Braille:

Braille fell to this impulse. The numerals are exactly the same codes as the 1st 10 letters, even though braille is a 6-bit code.

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••
••

This makes mathematics much harder than it needs to be. The blind have complained about this for over a century, but the sighted just did not care. The blind physicist Gardner and the blind mathematician Salinas got fed up with this and took matters into their own hands.

They not only added separate codes for numerals, but made the code 8 bit too:

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They added lowercase letters and over 100 special symbols.

"If you want something done right, ¡do it yourself!"
——
Proverb




Gardner–Salinas braille codes


If this romance goes south, one could end up a gelding.

I know what sleepdeprivation is like.

Sekene needs to limit herself to just 1 "fun time" for night. The protagonist needs sleep.

Given that the ponies control the day and seasons, I would expect the ponies to use superior highly composite numbers for their year-length. I suggest 360.

On Mondus, because of the eccentrisity of the Teran orbit, summer in the Norther Hemisphe is the longest season at 94 days-long. That is 1 of the reasons Earth is in an interglacial.

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