The things we create should stay in our heads.
Sometimes they don't.
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Luna-tic Scientist
I actually am a scientist!
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Humans, in my pony fic? The horror!
I like this. I like this a lot.
Very evocative writing, very powerful emotional scene building. Just amazing. I really appreciate the blend of truth and fiction; the blend of your reality (I'm assuming at least parts of this are based on your real life?) and a fantasy.
Keep this up; I can't believe it has taken me this long to follow you and read your work. Bravo.
(And, I may have closed this story a few paragraphs in to go and check that you hadn't suddenly tagged your other one as complete without me noticing, before coming back)
Oh, and don't despair of being published on account of being a fanfiction author; I like to throw out a Hugo nominated The Thing fanfic as an example. It's not MLP, but it's still a derivative story that got at least some recognition.
That was fascinating. I like.
That was creepy, even more because this is scientifical plausible
But what's the probability of such events occurring/existing? Well, nothing to lose by believing-- that's the beauty of Pascal's Wager...
Sadly, 2335099, the inherent flaw in Pascal's Wager is that there are other possibilities. Perhaps the life giving deity wants to be left alone and forgotten about? It is entirely possible that believing could doom us all, if one day the deity decides that she's had enough.
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The solution: Stop believing in deities, so that humanity doesn't need to fear anything.
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Psh, unless they're bounded by some religious text that contains a deal/mutual agreement between the worshipers and the god(s) in question.
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Celestia doesn't have a book showing her benevolence, does she? Well, we're screwed...
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Thank you; it was fun to write and made a nice break from Wasp. It's great to actually finish something!
Yes, big chunks of this are true to life (it's so close to an autobiography that it's not funny), with the exception of the whole 'tortured by ponies' thing (having said that, if you look at it a certain way...).
To be honest, I have never considered even trying to get anything published; this is all for fun (although I am writing 'Wasp' to be as stand alone as possible, so it wouldn't take much to file off the serial numbers, so to speak).
This particular fic was written as a kind of introduction for my non pony, non SF reading friends/family. Once they stop laughing, that is!
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Thank-you, glad you did!
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Excellent, creepy was what I was aiming for!
Unfortunately, 2335333, at that point, you might incur the wrath of a deity that desires your attention.
If you know what your deity desires, then its not really a wager anymore, 2335392. At that point, it is just a simple fact.
Honestly, I would not want to have my personality subject to the whims of mortal authors. That, more than being haunted by ponies, seems like a terrifying thought. I am already haunted by the countless scores of people who live without rights, food, water and shelter, so adding one more soul that needs my help isn't going to be that much more of a bother. (by comparison)
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I can agree with you on that last part. Realistically, I know that there will always be the unfortunate, whether their problems be self-wrought or just bad luck. However, that doesn't mean I can ignore the cry of the needy when people can do more. Unfortunately, I have to worry about myself first, and that entails getting a good education, going to a good college and getting a good job with good pay. And by the time I have all that, my life will have already run by, and I will find that I have done barely anything, if not nothing, to help those that need help.
Phew. Makes me glad I haven't touched on the princesses yet in my story, I don't have to worry about any... oh dear.
Seriously, though, fun little premise and well executed - engrossing, but off just enough to be disconcerting.
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Entirely both too true and too depressing. While we can prioritize to a greater or lesser extent the plight of our fellows versus our own welfare, at this point we can only hope to chip away at the problem.
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(opinion/crazy ideal below)
I'd like to say that when we obtain space travel, resources would be no problem and neither would housing. Realistically, that'd open a whole new set of doors for the greedy to take advantage (insanely high colonization costs for "pioneers," etc.) instead of using the near-infinite resources inside other solar systems (or even our own asteroid belt) to raise "poor" to "middle-class," by today's standards. However, if it did work the way I wanted it to, there would still be the very rich, etc, but resources would no longer be a problem, and that's a big step forward.
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I'm afraid I see large-scale space travel as more of an 'if' than a 'when', and only as a result of our solving our problems - not as a solution to them. Yeah, if we get there, it would open a lot of doors, but we have to get there first, and we're not out of the woods yet.
Our first priority should be to get ourselves back in balance with our biosphere, and not relying on unsustainable polluting resources. Otherwise, I'm afraid reaching for the stars will take too much time and resources, and we'll find everything falling apart while we're still only halfway there.
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Humanity does progress and destruction best-- I know we'll make it to the stars eventually so long as we don't blow ourselves up xD.
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Just make sure you write about Her with respect, or you'll be seeing Her everywhere.
Glad you liked it.
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Well, I think us completely blowing ourselves up is an outside chance (but still worth taking safeguards about). I'm more worried about the wheels coming off thoroughly enough to cause a new dark ages, except this time we won't have the same resource base to climb back up with.
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That's a good point. However, keep in mind that the US has quite a bit of oil in it ("although it costs a lot to treat currently," being the excuse, the government apparently owns most of the land it's on. No shocker there) and is has about 1.2 trillion barrels of oil in the N-W region (there was some WSJ article on it.) You also have to keep in mind that quite a few African countries have a large amount of natural resources, so there would still be a select few nations that would dominate politics for X many centuries if we ever did regress to such a state.
Nightmare Moon, when you take her out of the context of pastel magic horses and take her "seriously", is goddamn terrifying. Good job in conveying that to your readers!
I'm an atheist.
That said, I frequently find myself reminded of the deities and such of whatever fiction I'm invested in. I can't see the moon without thinking of Luna, and when I'm in bed, the phrase "Dear Princess Celestia" rolls through my head every few minutes. Clouds remind me of pegasi, fields of earth ponies, and stars of unicorns. The stories I've read, and the stories I'd like to write, play through my head when nothing else is going on.
It seems hypocritical to me, but cognitive dissonance hasn't set in. In some ways, I'm actually hoping for hallucinations such as these.
Well, anyway, lovely story.
Phew! Well done with the nightmare parts! Those are the worst dreams, aren't they? The ones where you can't get away.
And yeah, Nightmare Moon inhabiting dreams? It seems to me that sealing her in the moon made more sense when we found that out. Yikes.
So an author abandoned a series called "Eschaton" because it was getting "too apocalyptic"? Heh. I was first introduced to the term eschato--through eschatology, the theology of end things. Which so many people call "The Apocalypse". (Theology geek is theologically geeky.)
I have always loved the "good, not safe" line. But then, Lewis is very quotable.
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Thanks, glad I could give you a shiver! The Nightmare has always been my favorite.
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You can be spiritual and still be an atheist; it's kind of inevitable I think, the human mind appears to have these things built-in, probably some holdover from our evolutionary past. I'm the same way (the fic is pretty autobiographical). Thanks for the comment
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Thanks, glad you liked it. Yes, Luna being able to manipulate dreams would make the Nightmare even more terrifying -- nothing could stand against her for long if she used the ability widely.
I should have seen the Eschaton/apocalypse link! I feel like such a foal (fortunately the line works!).
I'd forgotten about that bit from 'Lion'; something else to add to my read again list.
Thank you, sir, for what (I hope) was an excellently crafted April Fool's joke. All craftsponyship was of the highest quality. I enjoyed what you posted today, and I can't wait to see the actual next chapter of Wasp.
2357881 Thank you! Glad it was appreciated -- the 'real' next chapter will be along as soon as I can prise it from the paws of my prereaders. Also nice to see that my cheap ploy of linking people through to this fic also worked!
Man, I am right with you on this point. Other than a few particular books, I've barely read anything "real" in a little more than a year. The funny thing in my mind is that despite the change, I'm reading more now than I ever have before. The near infinite amount of fanfiction on the Internet works really well for someone who reads like most people breathe.
Also, that was awesome and unexpected, both the alternate ending (is it alternate if it's the first one published?) of Wasp and this story here. Good show.
Sounds like something from Alan Wake.
And on the subject of royal safety, I'm suddenly reminded of a classic.
You know, I do so many of those things.
I greet the moon when I see it and imagine Luna hearing me somewhere. (I should get in the habit of doing that for Celestia.)
I can easily imagine ponies around me.
I haven't read a real book front to back since finding MLP fanfiction. (Robert Jordan's "Towers of Midnight" sits half-read on my shelf not 5 feet away.)
I hope Celestia appreciates the characterization I've thought up for her; it's a bit of a different take, but I'd like to think she'd appreciate it.
P.S. Speaking of weird things... If I ever get enough money, I would like to commission a life-sized version of the rearing Celestia statue. I think she'd appreciate the sillyness of a statue dedicated to her existence in a world where she doesn't (maybe).
At first, I admit I felt a hint of jealousy, even if I could claim royal visitation with as much authority as you have.
By the end, I was very, very glad that I didn't. I look forward to my dreams this night, and yet at the same time, I dread what may come of them.
Thanks a lot.
Siccing Nightmare Moon on authors is not a constructive form of literary criticism, Celestia. Bad Princess, bad!
And you, caving to pretty Princess ponies. For shame. Where's your genetic human superiority complex?
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Thank you! Yes, it's an alternate ending. Reading is the one regret I have about starting writing; I just don't have the time anymore, so I'm reduced to snatching pages here and there. Without my phone I'd be really screwed.
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Heh, at the time I'm leaving home for work the sun is just rising, I've been greeting it ever since. The Celestia statue is a great idea -- full size would be best, but even a little one to put on a stand would be nice. Sounds like we need a Kickstarter!
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I wouldn't worry, just make sure you do as She asks...
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I think that's the 'only' unrealistic thing about the story: the fact that I'd say 'no' to Celestia. I mean, really!
...and I stopped believing in humanity's genetic superiority a loooong time ago.
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Poor form, sir! As a subject of HRH Queen Elisabeth, there is only one crown you should admit you would bow to, and it isn't on the head of some pony. If Celestia had a problem with something I wrote, I'd tell her to get in line with the others.
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You are, of course, absolutely correct. Having said that, knowing the incestuous nature of the European Royal Houses, I wouldn't be surprised to find that HRH Elizabeth II is related to Celestia in some way; perhaps via Catherine the Great? I'm sure she'd agree with Celestia, if the Princess asked.
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I can't particularly argue with your supposition of relationship between the Queen and Princess, vulgar though it may be, but HRH Elisabeth II doesn't go after ever author that portrays her ancestors unflatteringly and I doubt she would condone Celestia doing so, especially to one of her subjects. Freedom of Speech is protected, after all.
. . . I would have figured there must be others if I had ever bothered to consider the issue, but I never thought I'd actually have my illusion of being the only one shattered. I'm not sure how I feel about this. Happy I'm not alone? Sad I'm not unique? A little disturbed there is another rational person who can get so into the pattern of praying to pastel pony princesses as to start slightly believing? Annoyed that I will never be able to resist the urge to alliterate when talking about these sorts of things?
Yeah, probably that last one.
2368318 This is now truth. It has to be.
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Ah, if only I was in to writing historical fantasy romances!
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Belief in gods/spirits appears to be hard-coded into humanity at some fundamental level. It would be interesting to find out how many of us do these kinds of things, especially among those who have no 'real' religion.
I know that when I go, I'd much rather meet Celestia than anything else!
Uh..........wow.
I am a little confused, but that was pretty well written to be honest.
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Anything I can help with?
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Actually, I have it figured out now. Just one question.
Why is Luna Nightmare Moon? Is she believed that way so often?
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Luna can look like the Nightmare whenever she likes; in a way they are fighting for their own survival, so she picks the form most likely to work. Based on the amount of NMM art I see, I do think that thoughts of Luna pretty much come hand-in-hand with thoughts of the Nightmare.
There's a chunk of headcanon in there as well; prehistory Luna looked like the Nightmare, and as the thoughts of the person being visited matter, that's what happens. The author in the story (ie, me) also doesn't have an imagination that allows nice things to happen to him!
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Oh. Thanks!
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Kind of bad cop, really bad cop!
Oh, if only stories could become true acts of creation. Our world could do with a good coherent plot line. It amuses me terribly that one such a creation would be able to influence her own creation. Fuck causality! I have ponies.
Those who refuse the Powers, nonetheless serve the Powers.
Those who serve the Powers, themselves become the Powers.
Beware the Choice! Beware refusing it!
I was going to ask if the retcon in DoWaS was a deliberate bait-and-switch, or a genuine change of mind...
...but now, well, never mind.
(As a non-ponyfic writer, I'm precious about my writing too, especially when it comes to NOT letting any fondness I have for my characters dissuade me from doing horrid things to them. However, if the normal Luna asked me to change something, I'd probably be too overcome by the cuteness to demur.)
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(Please stop crying... here, look, I'm writing that you found some chocklit hearts and lived in a candy castle forever, just stop crying!)
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It was an April fool, a year in the making, but I guess you figured that out.
Partly written to prove to myself that I could be brutal to characters in whose heads I'd spent hundreds of hours, and partly as a potential 'real end', should the worst happen and my muse gallop off for pastures new.
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Nope nope nope, too late, this story is now my headcanon for precisely how it all went down in every particular.
Ha! Well done, sir. Lovecraftian ponies should totally be a thing now.