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Humanus Defensor: Nickname given by the Gektar, used to refer to the average human of the Colonial Guard after they undergo the standard genetic boosting.
Normally, the average unaugmented human male weighs between 370 and 400 pounds (170 and 180 kilos) and stands at 7.9 feet (2.5 meters). When they join the Colonial Guard, an obligation every colony follows, they must go through genetic augmentation. A process that enhances all aspects of their bodily structure. The end result is a human that weighs more than 450 pounds (200 kilos) and stands at 9 feet (3 meters), who is capable of lifting twice his weight and enduring the harshest of physical tests, all of this without the need of powered armor. Also implanted is a second heart. This is mainly used to pump blood exclusively in or out of their heads when in extreme acceleration. It also delivers doses of adrenaline and other substances when needed.
Human females, however, are not required to join the Colonial Guard. Instead, they may continue with their studies and become professionals far before most men. If they choose otherwise, they must undergo a more subtle gene-boosting process in order to maintain their fertility. They usually fill the role of “Raiders”: light troops that often are the tip of the spear in most operations. Raiders are respected, and even feared due to their cunning skills in battle.
One more notable fact about humans is that they can quickly adapt to different types of environments and tasks, to the point that they can accomplish almost any given order or labor. It should also be noted that these physical changes are mostly subtle, such as slight modifications on bone and muscle density. Heavier changes, ranging into augmentation, will still require some form of advanced equipment to be viable.
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“Half of our army has been isolated...” one of the many generals sitting near the large table in the war room muttered, nervously running his hoof through his mane. “Cut off from our supply lines, everything...”
“The Gryphons are pounding us into the ground...”
“Don’t think like that, Honour,” a mare said, looking at the other pony with a worried expression. She turned to Celestia and Luna, her expression unchanged. “Princesses... what should we do?”
“We must keep fighting,” Luna said, rising up from her seat. “We have endured worse. This is but a stone in our path to victory.”
With a solemn nod, Celestia continued, “We must regroup and prepare to take Trottingham back. But we need a way to re-establish contact with the rest of the army...”
Luna sighed, taking her attention off of the conversation. She trotted over to the large window of the war chamber and looked up into her sky. Was it really hers anymore? Maybe, maybe not. She needed to focus on the war, but it was almost painful.
A single falling star lit up the night’s sky; a beacon of hope. She reminded herself not to lose faith, for there were many lives depending on her. A relaxed smile spread across her face as the star continued to fall. “Yes... there is hope.”
The star made a sharp turn, causing Luna to cock an eyebrow. Her mind reeled back to the meteor shower six or seven months ago, the time in which Equestria was changed forever. She silently watched as the star approached Canterlot...
This was more than hope.
She turned to the rest of the ponies once again, her smile twisting into a determined frown. “Incoming!” she yelled, before a loud explosion rocked the castle, causing the window behind her to break into hundreds of shards that then fell onto her. Celestia and the generals fell to their knees, shielding themselves from the coming glass.
Could they possibly be back?
Naught but a moment later, alarms began to sound. Luna could hear ponies moving through the halls of the castle, the noise of their armored hooves resonating through the entire castle. She shook the glass off of her coat, watching as Celestia and the generals stood back up, looking at the broken window. Pony soldiers pushed the door open, rushing into the chamber in numbers to make sure Luna and her sister were both safe. She ignored them, instead turning to the window, reaching into her own heart and gathering all the determination she could find.
“Luna, wait!” Celestia shouted as the younger sister leaped through the broken window.
With a loud thud, the Princess of the night landed into the palace’s courtyard, flattening the grass under her hooves. She caught a glimpse of a unicorn soldier firing beams of magic at an unknown target around a corner.
She galloped past the soldier and around the corner, finally seeing what had landed outside the palace.
It was surrounded by pony soldiers, being attacked by all sides. The beams of energy either bounced off of it or were just shrugged off. The spears and swords did little to its armored exterior, leaving dents and small gashes but no visible wounds. And it had just survived a fall from orbit, the proof being the large, smoldering crater in the spot in which it stood.
“They are back...” she whispered to herself, her eyes wide as she watched the hulking, massive figure of the biped turn to her whilst fending off various forms of attacks.
“Princess—” it began, but was interrupted as a magical beam hit its shoulder, leaving a scorch mark. “Oh, stop it already!”
Luna shook her head to clear her thoughts, then looked back at the human. “Halt! Ceasefire!” she called out, raising the volume of her voice in order to stand out from the cacophony of noise coming from the attacks.
The offending ponies froze in mid-attack, shakily returning back to their normal positions and backing away from the titanic human. They formed a circle around it and glared angrily, pawing the ground and readying their weapons, ready should it attempt anything.
“Phew, thanks...” it said, dusting off its armored suit, which had burn marks and dents in every area.
The Princess walked calmly over to it, the ponies stepping to the side to make way for the alicorn. “Before we proceed with anything, may I ask what your purpose is?” she asked as soon as she had pierced the barrier of soldiers.
The human shrugged. “Just wanted to talk.”
“O-Oh...” She craned her neck to the side and shot a burning glare at the ponies, who shrunk away under her gaze. “On behalf of Equestria,” she said, turning back to the human, “I am deeply sorry for any pain we may have caused to you.” The last thing she needed was more conflict, especially against the humans.
“I was just expecting spears... not fucking laser beams.” He finished by looking at the soldiers and releasing a low, distorted growl, making their fear increase tenfold.
Luna sighed, “I’m sorry, but we are quite on edge these days, thanks to the war.”
“I figured,” the human said, looking down at his scorched armor, then back at Luna. “I am Divisional Commander Atlas of the USS Vector.” He extended a hand at the Princess. “It is a pleasure to see you again.”
Luna reached up with her hoof, and the human gently wrapped its enormous hand around it, shaking it with a surprising amount of gentleness. “I do not recall meeting you before, may you refresh my mind?”
“I accompanied Admiral Becker six months ago, when our species first met.”
“Ah,” Luna said, giving the human a warm smile as he let go of her hoof. “You were one of his guards, I see.”
The man looked over at the ever increasing crowd of ponies. “I am here to talk to both you and your sister... privately.”
“You do understand that we have a war to attend to?” Luna asked, looking up at the hulking man and tilting her head to the side.
“This is bigger than your war,” the human said. He began walking, the crowd of ponies parting itself to make way for him. “Trust me.”
Luna huffed and began following him, leaving the entire group of confused ponies behind. “My sister should be in our war room. I will lead the way.”
“Lead on, then.” Atlas slowed his pace, letting the Princess take point.
She briefly wondered what the man’s purpose was. Where was the Vector? What could possibly be more important than the war? She hoped they had a good reason for causing that much chaos in the first place.
The Princess and the bipedal beast soon reached the door to the war room. With her magic, she gently slid it open, peeking inside before letting Atlas in. The generals were still inside, some of them being aided by nurses in order to take some shards of glass off of their flesh, while Celestia sat solemnly at the head of the table.
“Luna?” her sister said as she saw her. “Luna, what happened?” She stood up and trotted over to the door.
“Oh, it was nothing...” Luna sighed, “We just have a rather... unexpected guest.” She pushed the door open, exposing Atlas to everypony in the room. His hulking figure crouched through the doorway and into the chamber, eliciting gasps from several of the generals and nurses.
“What is that...?” one of the nurses mumbled.
The man folded his arms. “I’m a human.”
Celestia approached him, her expression demeaning anger. “Are you the one that caused all of this disorder? May I have a reason as to why you did this?”
Atlas huffed. “Because I have an offer.” He reached up to his head, removing his faceplate and revealing a smirk. “One that I do not believe you’ll refuse.”
The white alicorn looked up at him, eyebrow raised. She then pushed through the door, followed by Luna and Atlas. The three began walking through the palace, Celestia and Luna leading the way.
“And what does this offer consist of?” Luna asked.
“That depends on you.” The man stopped walking, prompting the sisters to stop and turn to him. “We can end your war. We’ll finish what we started.”
Luna craned her neck backwards out of surprise. Her sister, however, remained completely stoic.
“I suppose you want something in return...” Celestia said.
Atlas nodded, smiling. “Food. Everything you can spare, including any meat you can get, as well as a spot for us to build a colony.”
The two sisters remained silent until Luna spoke up, “And how much food are we talking about?”
“Enough for five billion humans.”
“What!?” Celestia exclaimed. “You cannot be serious-”
“It is the price for saving the lives of your people. This will be the difference between the lives of billions of ponies. It’s your choice.” He shrugged.
Luna nudged her sister, gesturing for her to follow. She led Celestia away from the human, enough for him not to listen.
“What do you think of this, sister?” Luna whispered.
“It’s atrocious, there is absolutely no way that we can accomplish—”
“Yes, we can,” Luna added. “You just don’t like them, do you?”
Celestia sighed, “They are dangerous, Luna. You and I have both caught glimpses of their power, and we have barely scratched the surface.”
“Exactly! We can end this war right now, and save the lives of our ponies! I, for one, agree with their terms.”
The elder sister stared longingly at Luna, before turning back to the human, who had leaned against a nearby wall and folded his arms. They both walked over to him, Celestia frowning.
“So...” the human began, looking down at the alicorns.
“We... agree with your terms,” Celestia sighed out, causing Luna to smile to herself.
Atlas stood upright again. “Good! Now, when do we—”
“But!” Celestia interrupted him. “Before you take any part in this conflict, you will allow my sister to... visit your ship. We must know what we will be seeing before making any true moves.”
The human grumbled, “Very well...” He brought his hand to the side of his helmet afterwards.
Admiral Becker stood in the middle of the Vector’s command bridge, surrounded by consoles and screens. He looked at the main virtual window, overseeing the planet the ship was orbiting.
“Yes, copy that. I’ll be sending a dropship your way.” He sighed and folded his arms, staring worriedly at the planet.
One of the technicians got up from her console and walked over to him, clutching both of her hands together. “Sir, permission to speak freely?” she asked, receiving a nod from the Admiral. “Are we making the right decision?”
“Was there even a decision to be made?”
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OH! I get top spot in the "Special Thanks" section this time? I'm honored.
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I don't see how Equestria can feed 5 billion humans and all their ponies after war time. I still think the number of people in the ship is atrocious but we already discussed that point. Pretty much throwing the current population of Earth into another planet and wanting them feed.
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woah 5 billion?! I must of missed that detail before.
You do know that our current population is 7billion odd right? to fit 5 on a ship with any kind of comfort it would have to be the size of a small moon and even then the interior would be as roomy as a submarine.
Just sounds like a silly number and to expect the ponies world to be capable of sustaining that many extra mouths is laughable 
Why even pack that many souls onto a single ship? Does it eally need that many to function and have a formidable force of soldiers?
other than that I liked how this chap was handled this time around much better 
Shit just got real. (I've been wanting to say that for awhile now
) 5 billion humans?! You do realize that this is like putting the entire current population of humans on earth on their planet and expect the natives to feed everyone, right? Because those genetically enhanced humans must eat a lot of food. And we can barely feed ourselves now, although there is enough food for everyone on earth
. Yup,i like where this is going. Luna is in for some awesome scenes. The griffons? Not so much. And the ponies, particularly Twilight, will get to see the humans in action! (too bad there has to be death; although I think the humans won't slaughter the griffons, just kill enough if them in a grand display of power to intimidate them. Or not.) back to food; how can Equestria even hope to grant the humans what they want? Unless equestria takes up the entire land hemisphere of the planet (which I highly doubt), it'll be impossible without support from other nations. one last thing, if you're going to make the next chapter the part where the humans help out, then please make it long.
3000 words would be satisfying, but 4000, like in chapter 6, would be really great. But I understand if you want to keep it short.
Thats not so much the issue Im having its that Equestria is somehow expected to take the strain of 5 billion new residents who need food and want to build permenaant homes on the planet, is the planet a huge planet that makes our earth look like a tiny moon or something?
Because it would need to be to support the farmed food sources for that many new residents.
But remember this isnt a story breaker just an irritating little detail issue unless of course you have a reasonable explination to the food issue
I'm pretty sure in the prologue that they said it was earth like. Same size, same environment, same everything. If it was a huge planet, it would probably collapse under its own weight, becoming some sort of brown dwarf. Or something. Bleh. Astronomy isn't my strong point.
Great chappy. The only problem I have with it is the request made of the humans. I would imagine that if we as a species had mastered space travel we wouldve found a way to put a farm on a ship. Im my opinion a more realilistic request would be to give us as much food as you can and give us a sizeable portion of land to set up our own farms and well end your war.
Agreed, 5 billion seems ridiculous. From what I've gathered, the Vector is tens or perhaps hundreds of kilometers long by a good few kilometers wide and tall (I don't remember if the author specified the exact size or not.) However, this would reasonably only hold a few million at the very most, since the majority of the ship would be taken up by its mechanical systems, vast amounts of equipment and other cargo, manufacturing facilities etc. So say that the ships dimensions are 50km x 5 km x 4km, that would be 1 trillion cubic meters in volume. If it is assumed that maybe 20% of the ship is dedicated entirely to residential space (seems generous), then that would be 0.4 cubic meters per person. The average volume of a human is about 0.05 cubic meters, and let's not forget that a lot of humans in this are twice as big as humans today (so they might be more like 0.1m³). To live comfortably, I'd think you'd need at least 100m³ per person, so your ship would need to be 250 times larger than what I stated to fit them, and I was being generous with the 20% dedicated residential thing.
I also want to point out that whole "food-dilemma" thing doesn't seem quite relevant to a reality where humans are hyper advanced (compared to now anyways), and are masters at augmenting themselves. Since food is expensive to produce, space consuming to store, and the fact that it is associated with some of our body's most temperamental and likely to fail organs, why isn't that one of the first things to go on the augmentation list? If they can make people with 2 hearts that can lift twice their own weight, why don't they replace conventional food with a very slowly depleting, long lasting, efficient auto regulating nutrient injection or something to that effect? Especially on a mission through space where the food for (apparently 5 billion) would take up vast amounts of space.
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>>1494967 >>1495073 >>1495301 >>1495379 >>1495539 >>1496050
Guys seriously?! You are still going on about the size of the Vector and how many humans are on board? Jeez, I thought we went over this about 17 chapters ago.
Quote from about 5 weeks ago made by Pissfer , one of M&M's editors who helped determine the size of the Vector:
Well, that was sort of the thing that you have to look at. If you take the ship and assume it's 50km wide and long (which is not unlikely), and a floor height of approximately 3m, that would give you approximately 16000 floors that are each 30000km squared in area, which gives you a grand total of 480 million square kilometers, so the total density is just over 10 people per kilometer squared. Granted, there is a lot of room that is used for other things, but if we said that 1/4 of the ship was living quarters, that would still mean that 10 people would share an approximately 15x15m space. While that is quite small, note that it does appropriately fit the proposed size of the sleeping quarters shown in the first chapter, as I'm sure the room is probably somewhere between 4x5 and 5x10.EDIT: Actually, sorry, for some reason I was thinking that a kilometer squared was 1000m squared.... so, uh, ya. It would actually be more like 500mx500m allotted to living quarters for 10 people, which is just massive. Really, we could go down to 0.25% of the space as living quarters, which would take it to 50x50 for 10 people, which is more than enough. So, uh, yeah. If anything, it could be argued that 5 billion is still too low
That should sound/look familiar to you Bairiko since that was a reply to a comment you made about 5 weeks ago.
600km long? Ok, I'll revise my shit based on that. Lets say it's 600km x 10 km x 10 km. 600 km x 10 km on the bottom of the ship would be 6000 square kilometers, which is far more than the stated "several hundred times larger than canterlot", so these dimensions are pretty generous. The volume of this ship would be 60 trillion cubic meters, so it is 60 times larger than my prior dimensions in volume. It would need to be 250 times larger to allow for 5 billion people at 100 cubic meters each on average in a residential area of the ship. So that means the ship would still have to be 416.6 repeating% of the size to allow for that, and that is once again assuming that 20% of the ship is dedicated as being a residential area, and that the ship is indeed 600km long (both seem rather generous). Even if the ship was really this big, I can't even begin to imagine how much time and money it would take to build. 600km long is 31 times as long as the super star destroyer in star wars, and that is the largest ship seen in those movies. A 19km long ship is impractical enough, but a 600km long ship that can hold 5 billion people? Either the humans are so advanced that this is a fairly easy task for them, or they spent ludicrous amounts of time, money, and effort on it. If it were the former, then once again, why must they worry over things as trivial as food? If it is the latter, then why were they using this ship -with the population of a planet aboard it- to investigate a broken space station? Things like this are a real pet peeve of mine when it comes to sci-fi.
If you take the ship and assume it's 50km wide and long (which is not unlikely), and a floor height of approximately 3m, that would give you approximately 16000 floors
...If the ship were 50km tall, then it would be basically taking up a 125000000000000m³ area extending to the top of the stratosphere... I don't think that would be very good for the atmosphere.
...just something that stood out to me. Why aren't the Unicorns doing anything creative with their magic? The description made me feel like these were mages just casting magic missile and not throwing their big weapons. Also... why did the human decide to land in the middle of the Palace? I understand that he's going to talk to the princesses... but just "dropping in" that way into a country where you KNOW is in the middle of a war, and are going to be extra jumpy... that doesn't sound like a good idea to me.
And now onto the issue of the numbers.
I.. I... that number... 5 billion REALLY stands out to me. And it really bothers me... like a lot. Not enough to make me turn away from the story but enough for me to cringe and dislike the story a little bit more. Which is sad, 'cause for the most part it's a good story. But these numbers are ridicules. The mass of that ship would be... sooo F-ING huge. Wouldn't the ship's mass be enough to shift planets and moons about?
It's just too big... lets get some perspective on just how big this f-ing ship is.
If the ship really is about 480 square kilometers. It's about the size of the earth's surface area which surface area 510 million square kilometers. Of course only 149 million km squared is actually live able on earth... soooo you could say these ships ARE bigger than the living space on Earth.
This just screams "impractical!" To me. It's not worth the resources to build and maintain a ship of that size. And if we're saying 0.25% of that is living space... well lets do math: 480x0.25=120km squared. Right on the dot actually... and this is smaller than our Earth's living space. To me... it just is... sooo impractical and doesn't feel feasible to me. Battleships were too big to be practical, which really just make me feel like this behemoth is waaaAy too big.
>>1496503 Ok where else would he have landed to meet the Princesses? If anything, I think that landing right in the middle of the palace grounds was the best choice of action otherwise you would get panic from the citizens outside the palace.
>>1496386>>1496050>>1495379>>1495301>>1494854 The number of humans is just a FUCKING number! He might have over exaggerated the number to get more food for the humans. After all, they are huge and have big appetites. You people shouldn't be worrying about insignificant details such as numbers. They are completely irrelevant to the story.
Image: http://i48.tinypic.com/331osg9.jpgI think that instead of food as a reason to bring Vector back you should of used something like 'a place to settle down.' It makes more sense because if they are spacing faring race then they shouldn't have to worry about trivial and easily produced things like food(watch /any/ space opera and you'll see the creation of food is trivial after a certain technological point.) The motive of finding a planet to settle until they can find their way back home makes things easier to understand.
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>>1496673 Where would I have landed? Probably outside the city so I can approach without causing as much panic and hopefully not get the guard attacking me. You know... give them a chance to recognize me and let them know who I am. "I'm one of those human guys that was here X time ago! Need to talk to the Princesses please." It's just not good diplomacy to land the way he did in the capital, of a nation which is at war. If he could have landed with more control and much slower then sure landing there would be fine. But the way he landed?
a loud explosion rocked the castle, causing the window behind her to break into hundreds of shards that then fell onto her. Celestia and the generals fell to their knees, shielding themselves from the coming glass.
I'd say that's not the best way to enter the capital of a nation... not to mention one that's at war.
And errr... yes... yes numbers are very much important, at least in this setting. Sometimes numbers ARE just there to kinda be there. In which case you'd be right. They'd be a detail that wouldn't make too much of a difference. However, even so you don't want to throw out huge numbers just to have huge numbers. Also, in a setting like this (a war and colonization) numbers do become VERY important. Also in a sci-fi setting when you're talking about ship size and whatnot, that also is a point where numbers become important. And these numbers were made important in the text.
“Enough for five billion humans.”“What!?” Celestia exclaimed. “You cannot be serious-”
Soooo... yeah... the numbers are kinda important worth discussing. For me personally not "RAGE AND FLIP TABLE!" but still to me it's an issue that should be addressed. Especially when it's a pretty good story otherwise.
How the hell are there 5 billion humans on the ship? Even if there was 1 million humans per km of ship it would only come to 600 million, and having 5 billion people on a single ship would be near impossible when considering the sheer amount of supplies needed; which would take up the significant amount of space. Say 1 hyper caloric bar sustains a single person for a day, that's still 5 billion bars needed per day; and even if the average augmentee can live off of 1.5 l of water a day that's still over 7.5 billion litres of water needed just for consumption per day. Also, if they manufacture most material they would still need absurd amounts of storage space. Considering that these ship's could be isolated for extended periods of time (like in the story) I don't see the military putting that many people on a single ship which, if destroyed or lost, would lose them 5 billion soldiers, engineers and doctors (who would need a large amount of medical supplies).
Also, although oxygen can be recycled carbon dioxide would eventually build-up and, unless there is a way to convert carbon dioxide to oxygen without the loss of atoms, the ship would become uninhabitable.
I really like the story and the rewrite, but I needed something to rant about.
Ok, I guess you both did not read my comment before posting...
Quote from about 5 weeks ago made by Pissfer , one of M&M's editors who helped determine the size of the Vector:Well, that was sort of the thing that you have to look at. If you take the ship and assume it's 50km wide and long (which is not unlikely), and a floor height of approximately 3m, that would give you approximately 16000 floors that are each 30000km squared in area, which gives you a grand total of 480 million square kilometers, so the total density is just over 10 people per kilometer squared. Granted, there is a lot of room that is used for other things, but if we said that 1/4 of the ship was living quarters, that would still mean that 10 people would share an approximately 15x15m space. While that is quite small, note that it does appropriately fit the proposed size of the sleeping quarters shown in the first chapter, as I'm sure the room is probably somewhere between 4x5 and 5x10.EDIT: Actually, sorry, for some reason I was thinking that a kilometer squared was 1000m squared.... so, uh, ya. It would actually be more like 500mx500m allotted to living quarters for 10 people, which is just massive. Really, we could go down to 0.25% of the space as living quarters, which would take it to 50x50 for 10 people, which is more than enough. So, uh, yeah. If anything, it could be argued that 5 billion is still too low
OK, I must say that: I like this story. Really, i like it!
And I already know (about two - three months) that Vector is 600 km long and have five billion people on board.
But...
still...
this...
is...
so...
fucking....
ridiculous!!!
First: 600 km, right? And Luna: Where was the Vector?. Umm, hellooooo!? 600 KM!!! And this ship is currently on planet orbit. Not behind their moon, but on planet orbit. This thing should be visible even in the daytime, let alone at night!!!
Second: Seriously, 5 BILLION PEOPLE!!!??? Well, they always can eat these griffins.
Third: As others already said - why this ship don't have a farms, hydroponics and cloning plants for meat production?
Eh, once upon a time your ship was 45 km long and have only 750 000 people on board. Is this was bad?
>>1498228 No, I very much DID see that/read it. And if you read my comment which you replied to you'll note that the numbers I'm using in my equations are the numbers given to us in that post which you put in your reply to mine. And I'll say it again. 5 billion is still ridicules and very impractical... as is the ship.
First: At that distance, it can be easily mistaken by another cluster of stars.
Second: Yes.
Third: Was it ever stated that it didn't?
Enlighten me. Why is a ship that can destroy planets, carry its own fleet, fill entire systems by launching hundreds, perhaps thousands of soldiers from orbit, and make colonies, impractical?
5 billio- wut. Ok being as this is fanfiction I'll give you the benefit of the doubt. 5 billion is a massive number, consider that fact that as of right now the world has 7 billion. 5 Million would be much more reasonable if you provided an excuse why, they were going to make a new colony maybe? And I just read the rest of the comments they agree with what I'm writing.
>>1499472 Look I am not saying its bad it just seems highly unreasonable. It is your story and I don't want you to "shape the story to your desires?" that is far from what I want. Besides like I said it is fan-fiction so I am giving you the benefit of the doubt (I do have a social disorder i may be putting it wrong here, but it makes sense to me) I see your point and I don't want to rip at your story, in fact this is the only problem I have found in this story and that's just me trying to find something to complain about.
>>1499498 Perfectly understandable. Keep in mind, however, that this is taking place in the future. In the past decade, the earth's population has been exponentially growing. In another hundred years, it might be perfectly feasible for a ship to have a crew numbering in the billions.
>>1496836>>1497621>>1498633 Let's just all think about this, let's just think about it for a second. What year in human society does this fic take place? In the 30th century! Now just looking at how fast humans are growing. Just think about how fast the world is being populated now. We are at 7 billion and still growing EXPONENTIALLY. Now if you remember your basic math, that would mean that by the 30th century there would be trillions upon trillions of humans scattered across the stars just like this fic. And don't you think that by the 30th century we would have developed ships big enough to support 5 billion people on board while having space for armaments and vehicles? Just think about it. You people are complicating this far more than you should.
>>1497921 And yes, 5 billion is a lot of mouths to feed, but they also have the shitty bars that they can make over and over again. Not only that, but if you haven't read the original version, they only send a fraction of their personnel to colonize. Just chew on that for a bit.
I don't particularly need to think about anything, just saying that numbers are relevant in a sci fi setting if you didn't know. I would feel disrespected if universes like Star Wars constantly changed their numbers around because no one remembered what they wrote down.
>>1499902 Oh for the love of god, the point is that throwing that number around is absolutely ridiculous, especially in a single ship. That's the population of a planet. It DOES matter if you suddenly double the population of a planet from what, 5 to 10 billion. It is relevant, not just a number. And who says we are going to reach the 30th century at this rate? Sure it's fiction, but it doesn't spot being a ridiculous number. Putting 5 billion humans in a ship that shows not to be self sufficient is a completely imbecile move on the part of the government. He increased the number from 700k to 5 billion in the rewrite. It's not something that you just ignore.
Our population grows but we do it at a rate to which we can adapt, if we suddenly doubled our population we would collapse. And while they have the stool to colonize do they have the space? Can the equestrians really spare the space?
>>1499328 Once I helped proof read a chapter, but I don't know how far you changed it. You said it was to keep the crew dependent on the government so they wouldn't run away with the ship. Just because you can make a ship this big doesn't mean is a good idea, in fact it sound like a stupid move to invest in a single big ship than a fleet.
First of all, the energy time and resources it would require are gigantic. It dwarfs stuff like the death star, and that was destroyed by a single fighter. So it only takes one weak point or a few and you have a gigantic target filled with 5 billion people. If something goes wrong that's five billion dead. But it's ok the humans have trillion so they can spare... So why exactly, if they are so super advanced, can't they colonized and terraform another planet and not ask the equestrians for food for 5 BILLION giants?
>>1500692 That is certainly better written than this and thats saying something.
>>1500609 I didn't said anything about removing ponies?
>>1500620 I don't see what's so funny about that Mr. Let's-stcik-2-hearts-in-the-giant-that's-great-science. Putting 5 billion soldiers in a ship is an idiotic move. How do you police them? Put them all answering to a single admiral? Opinions, culture, background all that shit matters. For all you mention about tis size and tech, you also sais there are no other species on board because it woudl require a lot of adaptaions. That was when this was less and 1 million crew, but aparently there is no prioblem in sticking 4.9 other billion humans now.
Just because a ship is big and has loads of gun it doesn't make it practical, specially a colonization ship. You focus too much on make them world destroyer, but making a colonization ship not self sufficient and sticking 5 billion people it in it it's stupid. Sure it may sound cool, but its not practical. Its like the whole Noah's ark stuff but even worst. Space. Oxygen means trees or plants to recycle it, water and food, be it farmed and stored, entertaiment, culture, all that shit needs space. Putting 5 billion people in a ship with extremely limited resources is stupid and just asking for conflict.
>>1500649 Since you're the one that said the the number doesn't matter, but yet haven't given a convincing point to justify it, I sayd it's a good move.
Image: http://i.qkme.me/3rhseg.jpg>>1501031 Considering we don't have spaceships other than very primitive ones, you don't really have a lot of evidence to say they don't. But the point is not if Star Wars has a valid point with midichlorians, specially when compared to a fic with magical talking ponies, the point is that such a ship is stupid, expensive, resource intensive, a big target, inconvenient and that a single bad hit cancause a lot of casualties.
>>1501127 For what you? If you got nothing smart to say other than an idiotic meme better shut up. Go back to 4chan.
>>1500536 *calmly places a stack of papers on the table* Your Honor, Members of the Jury, Ladies and Gentlemen, Natzo, let me direct your attention to Exhibit A! *flourish of covering cloth* This little thing here is something we like to call 'Science Fiction.' It's a usable title because it combines the crazy contraptions and sciencey stuff that we all know, love, and dream about, and puts it into a completely made up world! Now, folks, when people would make media under the Science Fiction genre, they put it there because they wanted to stretch the limits of what we know to be true in the realm of science today. I would like to draw on the example of the movie franchise Star Wars. In it are laser pistols, rifles, hand-held contraptions that, when activated, produce a beam of light-energy capable of cutting through nearly anything. In my opinion, Your Honor, the 'lightsaber' as it was labeled, is pretty physics defying in itself if I'm not mistaken. Continuing with the current example, I wish to touch upon the super destroyer known as the 'Death Star.' In the original trilogy when the small band of heroes have their first encounter with the Death Star, they originally mistook it for a moon. This fully-operational battle station had a weapon on-board that was capable of leveling entire planets into dust in mere seconds. Once again, pretty far-fetched.
I would like to conclude that my client has in no way out-stepped the boundaries created by the term 'Science Fiction,' his ship, the 'USS Vector,' is an entirely fictional creation of his design, no one else's. He has also fictionally created a new universe in which he takes the universe of My Little Pony: Friendship Is Magic and melds it with his own unique universe, the one in which the Colonial Guard and the USS Vector originate from. And as such, any statistics, numbers, and rules he creates in said new universe are entirely under his jurisdiction and are in no way intended to be overly reliant upon current scientific laws and standards.
A final word, Your Honor. Fiction is merely that: Fiction. If it real, we'd likely call it Realism or Realtion. You are welcome to create alternate names.
And with that, Your Honor, I rest my case. *picks up the stack of paper and walks out of the court room*
>>1501153 Okay, first. Thank you, thank you for raising the point that the laws of physics might very well mold themseselves to our human concepts of "a cool action sequence" at some point in the future. You are absolutely right, I have no evidence that the laws of physics won't abruptly bend to our whims, and fly in the face of all logic and established structure.
Second, it's time for me to actually defend this design.
Resource intensive? yeah, so's a dyson sphere. Doesn't mean it's not a good idea. When your ships's weight isn't an issue, the sky's the limit.
Expensive? That's another way of saying resource intensive.
Stupid? I'm disproving that right now.
A big target? We're in space. The sad truth is that if you've got the firepower to crack a ship of that magnitude, you'd be better off shooting at a much larger, much less mobile planet, which is NOT built to withstand combat damage. Really, it actually makes more sense to live on giant planet sized ships, rather than sit on a planet that can easily have an asteroid launched at it at near light speeds.
Single bad hit? Yeah, so could a bad hit on any one of a bunch of smaller ships. With all the redundant systems you can stick on a ship like the Vector, it would likely survive a bad hit that might cause catastrophic structural failure on another ship, which would of course result in the loss of *all* hands on board.
Lastly, I'd like to raise the point that even Star Wars recognized the fact that a giant station having a "weak point" was pretty stupid. The death star II actually had to be destroyed before completion because the new design had no weak point!
>>1499328 There are a couple of reasons but the biggest and main reason is because of it's cost. Not just the cost to make said ship, which would be astronomical, but also to maintain it. It's the same reason why we don't use battleships any more. It's a lot easier, cheaper, and faster to build smaller ships that can do essentially the same thing. Again just like why battleships were replaced. Sure they were used to great affect up to Operation Desert Storm but the cost was through the roof and it wasn't worth keeping the one mega ship when we could use a bunch of other smaller ships to do the exact same thing only a lot fast, cheaper, oh and not being a sitting duck. 
That was an issue that battleships had as well... easy to spot and easy to hit... cause... you know... they're SO BIG!!
Also just the size of the ship. Would you even be able to bring the ship anywhere near small planets? From your descriptions of how big the ships are they're about the same size as the surface of our planet. Which means that the ship is going to have quiet the gravity field, and I can't but help picture the ship flying next to a planet and then pulling it out of it's normal orbit before the ship leaves... of course that could be used as a weapon... ...but where would you build that monster!? ...and where the heck would you get the resources to build it the 1st time, not to mention keeping it in working condition?
fact that a giant station having a "weak point" was pretty stupid.
It wouldn't have been nearly as stupid if it had been almost anything besides an exhaust pipe... heh, a poorly guarded exhaust pipe took down the Death Star. Still makes me shake my head in disgust to this day.
>>1501195 Since I'm as much a Judge as you're a Lawyer, I dismiss that claim.
Since I only used the Death Star example for the weak point and size I will point out that Star Wars was written in a time where people still had poor understanding of space travel and science. As time has progressed more fiction has tackled the points other works ignored, such as the amount of energy a laser gun would require, why do all aliens seem to talk English, Why do all aliens look like humans with weird foreheads or colors. Tackling this points is what differentiation good works from bad ones. Just throwing big numbers and still thinking the work will be taken seriously no longer cuts it. Who knows, maybe he will fix this when he ends up rewriting this again, if all this blogs about quitting the story are any indication.
>>1501235 For resources it mean not just the ship but the crew. Again, food, water, oxygen, medicine, space, entertainment, law enforcement, education, cultural differences. This are 5 billion different humans in a single ship that apparently can't sustain them for more than a few months. Then there is the space for all the weapons fleets, nukes, what ever else they, colonization materials and tool. The problem seems to be he tends to focus to much on the military side of the ship and not the colonization side.
>>1501376 OBJECTION! Not all aliens speak English. From a person who says that Star Wars is better that Machine and Might, have you even watched the damn movie? There are shit tons of aliens that don't speak English! And majority of the aliens don't even come close to looking like a human being. Only in Star Trek though...
>>1501438 Never specified those examples were solely from Star Wars, nor limited to western fiction. Earlier works did tend to ignore language barriers, which is my point, since that is now addressed in more recent fiction. A lot of alien in many movies are just humans with weird ears or skin, but that has changed, though the humanoid shape does remain dominant.
>>1501462 Oh please, it wasn't a big insult, nor one at all. Since a lot of authors are doing the I'm quitting stuff, it get annoying, even though a lot have valid reasons. I don't know the guy, but sincerely, all "should I continue or quit" blogs always end up sounding like seeking attention, since the comments are always "no don't quit, we love you, you're awesome, have my babies, you're the most talented guy in this site. This was the first fic I read and I love it."
>>1501376 I have many choice things I could say about your final statement in your reply to me. None of which I enjoy saying. However, you make it very tempting for me to just open up and release all the nice, little packages of crap that have your name written all over each and every one of them. But I won't.
Now, I will take note of your first statement.
Since I'm as much a Judge as you're a Lawyer
Look back to what I said:
Your Honor, Members of the Jury, Ladies and Gentlemen, Natzo
Please examine both the first person listed and the last: Your Honor (a title reserved solely for the judge in a court case) and you, Natzo. This in no way implies you having judiciary authority. Your dismissal has been dismissed. By logic.
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