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Twilight Sparkle looked up and for quite a long moment she was rather convinced that she might be dead.
Perhaps in her death she would meet her creator; then she wondered whether any of the stories she had written had their characters jump from the paper as she killed them off, and shuddered. At least the narrative hadn’t made her a zompony.
Her vision cleared a bit and she felt an immeasurably strong sense of relief as she saw the unmistakable roof of the Royal Throne Room.
“Twilight, my dear, faithful student. What a pleasant surprise.”
She shook her head a bit, whipping her hair back and forth in the process. Conveniently for the narrative, the concentration she focused into the teleport had left her too exhausted to think too much.
At the very least, her limbs were under her control. She used them to bow as low as she could to the one pony that might have an answer. “Princess Celestia.”
She waved her hoof towards the guards; they looked at each other, and then at the tired, frazzled, somewhat dangerous-looking protagonist. Being of no consequence to the story whatsoever, they followed orders as was their role.
Twilight would once have paid them no thought, but now she pitied them completely; she supposed that she should be grateful, at least, to have been given a small insight by the narrative into the world.
And then she remembered that the narrative had scripted that feeling for her, and that the narrative had similarly let her have that moment of ironic realisation, and that the narrative had let her recover from her mental exhaustion just to torment her with apocalypses upon revelations. If not for the Princess in the room, she might have screamed; instead, she simply stood silently, looking for all the world to be a slightly frazzled, wide-eyed, perfectly normal pony.
Celestia broke the silence. “While I do appreciate your wish to see me, I must admit it discomforts me a little that you have been staring at me for a few minutes, completely silent.” She still had that usual smile on her face; Twilight knew that the implication of her smile in this situation was a subtle indication of her restrained yet emotional personality.
Then she remembered that she was thinking of the Princess—the bearer of the sun although only by the powers given by narrative, ruler of Equestria only because the narrative put the power into her hands and tried to remember her place. “Princess, I’ve recently run into a—I’ve recently made a discovery. A very disturbing discovery.”
“Is that so, Twilight?” Celestia reclined a bit into her throne, slightly tense. Twilight could tell that she only was tense to set up a semi-humorous relaxation, but she felt rather flattered that Princess Celestia was taking her warnings seriously for once, even if only to set up a joke. “I trust your judgement, Twilight, if it is of such importance that you must speak to me in person.”
She explained everything, and saw Celestia only growing tenser.
Of course her analysis of Celestia’s tensity didn’t come true—it was probably amusing to the audience. She tried not to feel the doubt that perhaps the narrative was beginning to make her wrong purely for the effect, that she would begin to think things incorrectly, that she might even become stupid, lose her most important asset, lose her defining trait—she couldn’t believe she was defining herself by some arbitrary list of traits that the narrative itself had written into her head—just because of the narrative—
She cut the chain of logic off, forcibly, before it could go any further—but then she realised that the only reason that she might do that would be to make the narrative more streamlined, make it break away from the recursive pattern and make the narrative easier to follow, easier to craft.
And the narrative had, par for the course, granted her the twisted realisation, probably simply to mock her, and probably was making her force herself to calm down—she probably would calm down regardless of whatever effort she made, although the effort itself was from the narrative—just to move the story onwards.
She couldn’t help but squeak slightly, shuddering.
Blissfully—conveniently, Twilight remembered—the Princess appeared to have taken quite some time to formulate a response. “When you write a story, Twilight, when you write—do you write about every fly on every wall? Every grain on every bit of wood?”
Twilight, even through her haze of returned contemplation, could feel a slight tinge of red on her cheeks as she recalled her last story. “I describe the position of every baryon, Princess.”
Celestia seemed to repress a sigh. “Every single one?”
“Well, even though the Clophug interpretation argues—”
She had lapsed.
For the span of two sentences, she had forgotten entirely about herself to say something that she knew would sound silly—not to Princess Celestia, who she knew had gotten somewhat used to her personality, but any audience. She was the subject of a joke about her personality.
And Celestia didn’t set it up, and neither did she.
The Princess—the goddess in whose name she swore—wasn’t free.
And the narrative made her know it.
“Twilight? Are you alright?”
She shuddered, refusing to look up. She would rather remember her as a princess than look at her know and know her to be a tool. “It’s happening again. Don’t you see? I—we forgot everything about the narrative for a moment. I took an analogy literally, and you set up a joke without intending it to be.”
She did not stop, stomping her hoof down. “Are you going to continue to make the point you were going to? Where the gaps in detail are? Are you going to make the point so that whatever audience this narrative has can be satisfied? Are you going to be a tool, just like Pinkie? Just like me?”
If Twilight had been looking up, she would have seen a rather subtle shift in Celestia’s posture.
“I agree with you, Twilight.”
Twilight, under normal circumstances, might have spoken as if she had been called mad and interrupted herself to express surprise. Instead, she turned her head wearily back up towards Celestia so that she could see her face as they spoke—although she was certain that the feeling of social propriety was felt only because it would be more convenient for the narrative in some way—and stared deep into her eyes.
“You don’t think I’m crazy?” She was fairly sure that it was because the narrative had grown tired of drawing out her torment, and she at once decided that because the thought had come into her head that it was true.
“Twilight Sparkle, my faithful student, what is something that any good story must, in some measure, have?”
“I’m going to say secondary derivatives of the concept only to be confronted by the root concept. That’s how comedies work, right?”
She could almost hear Celestia suppressing a sigh. Some kind of expressive filler, probably to preface a line of dialogue and prevent the sensation of talking heads. “Sense.”
Twilight nodded. She might have repeated Celestia’s words, but that would have been another little device of the narrative she wasn’t being inclined by the narrative to comply with.
She shook her head a little.
“Ask yourself this—if the writers of this ‘narrative’ wanted amusement from your suffering, why doesn’t it simply torture you endlessly?”
“Because repetition diminishes.”
“But everything that has happened to you has been logical, correct? Every thought the consequent of a relevant antecedent. What if the narrative simply wants to be logical?”
Twilight walked slowly towards her, hooves hitting on the red carpet as she came closer. “It only seems logical to us because we’re in a world where the antecedent leads to the consequent. The narrative is mocking us. It knows it. Every word I’m saying is part of the narrative. Every thought I think.”
“Does it matter?” Celestia rose from her throne, stepping down to walk towards Twilight. “If, in the end, you act as you should, does it matter that you act only on the will of another? You say that you are a part of the narrative—”
Princess Celestia stooped down to bring herself down to eye level with Twilight. “—what if the narrative is merely a part of you?”
Twilight stared back a bit. “A part of me?”
Celestia rose to her full height once more. “If I simply ceased to exist before you, would you say that it would be strange? Would you not say that an author who wrote such a thing would be incompetent, or absurd?”
“If I agree with you, I’m agreeing with the narrative. Maybe in whatever world the narrative is written, sudden existence failure would be considered the pinnacle of literature.” She felt a strange sort of tugging on her heart as she said the words; possibly, she had spewed some reference to popular culture, or some non-sequitur meant to inspire discussion.
“But what can we judge other than from ourselves? Why must the reality, whatever it may be, change the way you act or think? If in the end there is no escape, what is there to do but live?”
Twilight laughed somewhat bitterly. “It looks like the narrative’s too cynical for me to agree, Princess. Maybe it wants me to have some big bucking epiphany before something changes and we can live happily ever after. Maybe I’m just supposed to keep acting like this ‘til I end up in some box and people throw bits at me out of pity so the audience feels sorry for me. Maybe you’re being written by a different writer. Maybe whatever’s writing this narrative is a self-depre— ”
“Twilight,” she said, and shook her head deeply. “If the narrative’s trying to convince you, why aren't you convinced?”
She shook her head. “You said it, Princess. Maybe they just want to write a good story with some good sense. Maybe you’ll beat me upside the head and I’ll become alright again?” She felt herself being flooded with ideas; perhaps the narrative had seen fit to dump its plans on her, and she accepted them with glee she knew was engineered. “You know how I know none of this is real?”
Celestia put her hoof up against her face, apparently surrendered by then. “How?”
“You’re a goddess, Celestia. Apparently you’re supposed to be the pony that created the whole world. You could change anything. But you haven’t, because that’s not good storytelling. That’s deus ex machina.” She went up to Celestia, pulled her hoof up and poked her in the ribs—hard. “See, now it’d be funny if you actually just incinerated me, or threw me into the dungeons, because that’d prove that we’re in a funny story! Now you’ve got a reason!” Her manic rant had a complete calm about it; Twilight knew that she was only being rebellious for the sake of it, by now, and took a certain comfort in it, delighting in the very fact that her comfort wasn’t hers, that her acceptance wasn’t hers, that nothing was hers.
The princess simply stared at her.
Twilight grinned wider than she ever had in her life. “Are you gonna throw me into the nuthouse, huh? Make this a comedy again? Make the audience laugh! Throw me into the nuthouse, maybe throw some slapstick electroshock in there!”
In the thousands of years Celestia had spent ruling her world, she had seen her share of insane ponies; fortunately, none of them had been an incarnation of one of the world’s fundamental forces. Certainly not until then, when the most powerful unicorn in existence had just—for lack of any word better expressing the term—lost it.
“Twilight.”
“What?”
Celestia, the ruler of Equestria, the god-princess of an entire race, raised her right forehoof and smacked Twilight across the face with the fury of a sun filtered by a pair of UV-resistant glasses. The lavender pony flew across the floor, sliding a few painful centimetres before coming to a halt.
Celestia went over to Twilight’s standing form. “I’m sorry that I must do this.”
“Physical violence, huh? I’m sure that works on tel—” Smack.
“What? Wrote yourself into a corner, author avatar? What’s your real name? Merry Sew, Princess of the—” Smack.
“You know, a concussion won’t solve my problems. A concussion is a serious neurological—” Smack.
“I’m sure the onomatopoeia for these is ‘whack’. I bet I’m wrong just to make things funni—” Whack.
Celestia had never lowered herself to physical force, before; she didn’t enjoy the experience. It was a few minutes before Celestia had stopped; it took some while for Twilight to notice that she was no longer being brutalised.
“What?” Twilight wheezed out, not even sinking so low as to touch her cheeks and soothe the hurt flesh. “Slapstick gag getting—” she coughed a bit, “—old, Princess?” As much as she seemed to be unphased, she still felt the pain all over her body, and almost regretted not fighting back.
“You’ve lost all connection with reality, Twilight.” She meant her words.
Twilight laughed at nothing in particular. “I guess I have.”
Celestia’s horn lit up; she could feel the magic resonating with her horn, and tried to resist. She knew she had the power, and knew that she could, but as she tried to resist the bruises around her body acted up, spots of burning fire all over.
“Oh, so that’s why you hit me! Concentration! So what’re you gonna do? Brainwash me? This is gonna be a brainwashing plo—”
Twilight Sparkle disappeared in a burst of white light.
She appeared almost immediately after, lying on her bed.
She felt her cheek and winced. The bruises were definitely still there.
She still remembered the narrative, everything. Celestia hadn’t tampered with that. She knew everything, and she knew why she knew it; her train of thought was almost uninterrupted. She ran a probe on her own body, her mind; nothing. She still felt a little bit of what she had felt, but without Celestia to take it out on she felt as if her momentum had been thoroughly negated.
Spike came running up the stairs. “There you are, Twi! I’ve got a le—”
His sentence was interrupted with the belching of a letter bound by the royal seal; Spike began to read it.
My dearest, most faithful student Twilight,
‘My dearest, most faithful student’. She was still her student.
I had to injure you physically to ensure that you would not be able to resist my teleportation spell and potentially cause reaction damage. I hope that you understand.
“Whoa. You got beat up by Princess Celestia?” He looked a bit closer at Twilight. “Ooh. That’s nasty.”
“Just keep reading, Spike.”
The compulsive urges you may have may never go, and you may always doubt. I am powerful, but I am not omnipotent; I cannot change the way you think, and I cannot change the way you feel. That power is within you.
Spike grumbled. “So much for counselling. Did you seriously get into a fight with the Prin—”
Twilight flung a lamp at Spike; he ducked rather deftly. “Alright, I’ll read the letter! Jeez.”
Nopony can tell you what to feel, but I suggest that you take some time to calm down. Although it might seem hopeless, to feel as though you are nothing but a creation, I can assure you that in my thousands of years I have felt every manner of despair, every sort of pain.
I have always pulled through.
Always remember: friendship is magic.
Twilight mumbled a bit. “I guess the story’s over, isn’t it?”
Spike raised an eyebrow. “Huh?”
She laid back and didn’t bother to analyse the gesture’s meaning; her entire demeanour was resignatory. “The narrative’s up. There’s no more plot to cover. Going back wouldn’t accomplish anything. It’d just make the narrative repetitive, so I can't just do that.”
“So, uh—”
“Yeah, Spike?”
“What now?”
Twilight laughed to herself a bit. “I should schedule some animal-feeding with Fluttershy tomorrow. If there even is a tomorrow. I don’t think me helping Fluttershy feed her animals would be a great story to tell.”
She paused for a bit.
“Unless we made out doing it.”
Spike seemed to contemplate the idea before shaking his head. “Don’t you need some company, though?”
She shrugged. “Sure.”
They sat around for a while, both very quiet.
Spike broke the silence with the subtlety of Spike. “So, did you really get beat up by Princess Celestia?”
“Yeah.” She shook her head a bit, smiling faintly. “I wonder if it’ll hurt as much as it does now when the narrative stops.”
It did.
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The chapter titles are a fragmented snowclone of Barthes' celebrated quote la naissance du lecteur doit se payer de la mort de l'auteur - the birth of the reader requires the death of the author - into la naissance du personnage doit se payer de la mort de l'œuvre: the birth of the character requires the death of the work.
The Clophug interpretation is a reference to the Copenhagen interpretation of quantum physics: that all quantum thingy-stuffs are only explainable as statistical thingies instead of actual thingies.
Give me a break, it's four-twenty-two AM.
On a side note, I'm pretty sure that this is the largest chapter I've ever written for any fanfic. It's really late at night, and it turns out I spent like five hours on this. It probably stops making sense at around the three hour mark. You know when you don't know how to end a story, and you have a bit of an idea but it's kind of stupid and you're worried people will be disappointed?
Fuck that feeling. Kick temperance to the curb and soar to the extreme all the way.
oh wait, you mean that was an anticlimax? shit
Also, have this unrelated EVE petition.
Alright, was she just crazy, or was a more sinister force at hand?
God dammit if I don't get a straight answer I will punt orphans or something.![]()
This was awesome, but Celestia's dialogue seems half-finished at some points. Probably because "It's really late at night, and it turns out I spent like five hours on this. It probably stops making sense at around the three hour mark." ![]()
Here's what I noticed. My comments on dialogue in bold:
“I trust your judgement, Twilight. If it is of such importance that you must speak to me in person, it is clear that whatever you wish is... important...?"
“Twilight,” she said, and shook her head deeply. “If the narrative’s ...narrative's what?”
"...if the writers of this ‘narrative’ wanted amusement from your suffering, why doesn’t ??? 'why don't they'? simply torture you endlessly?”
Thank you for helping me feed the animals Twilight.
No problem.
...
Hey Fluttershy. Do you want to make out?
... Finally!
Hey, what'd I miss?
An uneccessary tack on to the ending of the story.
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Celestia went over to Twilight’s standing form. “Snap out of it.” ![]()
“Physical violence, huh? I’m sure that works on tel—” Smack. ![]()
“What? Wrote yourself into a corner, author avatar? What’s your real name? Merry Sew, Princess of the—” Smack. ![]()
“You know, a concussion won’t solve my problems. A concussion is a serious neurological—” Smack. ![]()
“I’m sure the onomatopoeia for these is ‘whack’. I bet I’m wrong just to make things funni—” Whack. ![]()
you are a fucking genius
There is no tomorrow.
repent. repent.
Somehow, if there were a tomorrow, Twilight would be that mare on the side of the street with some random sign slung over her shoulder preaching to the masses about the narrative.
That or she could just make out with Fluttershy.
Excellent job regardless.
That makes you think... What if we are just another part of the narrative. What if we are just a thought bubble in somepony's OR someone's head. It's really disconcerting. Mainly because you can't prove NOR disprove it. The only reason thoughts like these haven't made me insane is because i was never sane to begin with... but i digress. Twas a great story. and not many stories have made me think the way this one did so good job. I will make sure to enjoy some of you other stories. Unless they're sad stories then i will cry. Thank you for the enlightenment.
Sanity is a point of view.
As is reality.
Since any opinion is determined by the observing party, in this case Twilight, sanity and reality are relative to Twilight and Twilight alone as there exists no other reference point for sane or real that can be proved certain
Now that I think about it, the concept of one's life being nothing but narrative is intriguing (also, Twi's reaction to the realization of such is absolutely perfect!). Disturbing, yet intriguing. Better not think about it more than I just did, it gives me the creeps.
One word to conclude it all: ingenious.
It honestly hurts to read this. It is just so freaking sad and knowing that her pain comes directly from the author and the readers just makes it worse.
Very good story though.
It's like Solipsism, where you believe nothing exists outside your mind; since none of this can conclusively be proven (whether, all is a creation of the mind, or whether my actions are dependent upon someone's narrative), I'd rather entertain a school of thought of a more positive nature. Otherwise life has no meaning, no reason to do anything, no reason for existence.
You know why the Joker delights in causing Chaos and pain? Because he knows that he is just a fictional character. Everyone is just a construct for him to play with. He himself is a construct. Batman exists so that his life would have meaning. He must exist for Batman to have meaning.
you should write an epilogue of twilight just feeding the animals with twilight where nothing really happens just to prove twilight wrong, the narrative can keep moving forward if it wishes
in a way, it already is. in order for the time theory to work, we have to have no free will and events have to unfold as time allows.
it's driven me this far to figure it out, to no avail.
This entire story makes me go
And I love it. I've been there Twilight, I've been there.
And it is NOT pleasant.
~Signed, InfiniteBrony
Great story!
Alas, Twilight will never know that she was right... unless someone writes a story where she figures that out.
I take this to either mean that Celestia was right, and it's Twilight driving the story rather than the vice versa, or that Twilight is only forced to act out a story every once in a while, and the rest of the time she's free.
...One of those two. Either way, Twilight's overreacting. Existentialism is just... pointless.
Somepony has to start the slow clap.
Brilliant, sir. Simply brilliant.
I suppose dividing by zero here would be like lighting a match in a room filled with Kerosene..
Greats story!
Wow. How did I not fave this before?
This is a great story that made me think. I'm excited what other works you can produce good sir.![]()
I think I disagree with that definition of meaningless. I'd say that the statement "oh my Celestia; there was a delicious and moist black forest cake in the Sun!" has meaning. As far as I can see, the hypothesis does have implied internal detail; it's just that those details are wrong and not directly accessible. It's not the same thing as positing "magic" or "phlogiston" as a hypothesis. It constrains reality in a way that an omniscient entity could distinguish. It has coherent logical implications: "If I was inside of the Sun at that time, I could have been enjoying delicious cake!"
These are not the properties I expect of a meaningless hypothesis.
Testability requires meaningfulness, but meaningfulness doesn't require testability. For something to be "meaningless", as I understand the term, it'd have to mean nothing, in the sense of having no implications that are tied to anything that one should care about. In other words, it must only be tied to floating beliefs or confused mental frameworks.
"My subjective perceptions are the result of a mind or group of minds writing a narrative!" means that, for instance, invisible entities are watching her. That has meaning, doesn't it? She lacks privacy. It would mean something to me if even fully non-interactive beings were watching me - in terms of my preferences. I prefer that such a thing doesn't happen. It also means that her decisions may be systematically distorted to create an interesting plot. Most disquietingly, it means that she and the stability of her world are completely at the mercy of the whims of the author, and it means that her subjective perceptions may halt at the point at which the author ends the story.
But perhaps this is more of a question of subjective semantics.
That said, I do agree with you about Twilight's methodology in that episode.
That's your choice, although I did intend 'it did' to reveal reality.
Nope. What's that? The only metafictional work I've read have been ponyfics, really. My country's an intellectual sinkhole.
Fixed. Thank you.
And fixed. Just a missing period.
Thank goodness the story just took its birth control a bit too long. I wouldn't be able to handle a spin-off.
Their lives continue in the mind of the reader. Writing more would just be redundant, in my personal opinion.
That being said, I might if my 'pretentious bitch' Interior Semiotics-type grade-A bullshit gland gets fixed.
She quite literally has a mental illness and she's reacting violently to it.
Entertaining.
I half expected to see Rarity's take. If anypony constructs her life as a narrative, it would be her.
>>1013986 Y'know, I'm fairly OCD, though it tends to come and go based on one or two factors, like how tired I am or if I've had my aderol... anyway, having read that illness's description, I think I can almost remember moments of similar introspection myself...
But then, I'm still far, far, far more laid back than Twilight, and so I can't seem to recall it bothering me...
Wait. Uh. Wazzat. Dahhh. Huh?
I think I'm going to need a some time to recover from this. Cynicism combined with a knowledge of science has forced me not to be able to take this story in a comedic manor. I'm too busy wondering about my existence now.
Ouch. too deep for a fanfic, i had to create myself a whole explanation to realirty bassed on this before keeping reading. I really hope you didn't make anypony as nuts as twilight in this story on the process, cause you know, it pretty deep, and paranoic by nature; and if someone went nuts because of this it would mean that the narrative established that he should become crazy after reading this and... you know the drill, it causes infinte loops of thought.![]()
thank Celestia that is over, for a moment there i thought that reality was going to start breaking down...
“I’m going to say secondary derivatives of the concept only to be confronted by the root concept. That’s how comedies work, right?”
Is this a real theory? Can you explain it?
Hyperreality! Acknowledgement of narrative construction! Twilight's take on the concept of Lacuna! I knew that Postmodern Lit class would become useful one day besides being an excuse to talk about Watchmen. Also, was that a TV Tropes reference I see in there with the "existence failure" note?
Hooray for metafiction. ![]()
I fully understand this. Seriously. My self-education on philosophy finally is useful!
Though I wish you brought up some of the philosophical arguments for imaginary creations possessing qualia - perhaps Twilight would try to appeal to the audience/author for mercy.
That of course gets really weird when you realize that it's a mental construct in your brain trying to keep itself "alive".
I'm not sure whether to be delighted or ashamed that I really haven't an idea what the concept of lacuna is in philosophy. Is that like a Petrovsky lacuna? A missing law? A missing concept in a language? A missing section of a manuscript?
Gosh darn it.
Also, was that a TV Tropes reference I see in there with the "existence failure" note?
Yes.
I'm a troper, the term strikes me as familiar. ![]()
In linguistics, a lacuna refers to a gap in language caused by inability to translate correctly or due to missing records, documentation, etc. The postmodern concept of Lacuna refers to the gaps in human knowledge, such as what results in the creation of hyperreal situations, like Twilight and Celestia addressing what they know and don't know concerning the concept of narrative. At least, that's how I understand it.
*claps*
Bravo! This was quite the enjoyable read.
I find it quite funny that Celestia never really denies Twilight's correction assertions. She's just tried to get Twilight into something coherent again. So I assume that Celestia's already been through this already. Likely Luna too. Maybe it went like this: If the narrative wants to make me unloved, make me react to knowing the narrative wants me to be unloved by showering the world in eternal night, lets give the narrative what it wants even if it expects me to give it what it wants. Lets kill everyone and end it all! ![]()
And Discord's probably the same. I mean Twilight was already losing her grip anyhow.
Yeah, I came to pretty much the same conclusion when I had to go through that. Sure, everything that'll ever happen is probably already laid out from start to finish (through an uncountable number of causes and effects--quantum shenanigans aside--or via divine guidance, depending on your preference). But even if your decisions are all predetermined, does that make them any less yours? Of course not. Because you're destined, as paradoxical as it may seem, to follow your own free will.
The relief comes when you realize that predestination and free will need not be mutually exclusive.
You know, the absolute most brilliant part of this story is the fact that it has no real confirmation of whether or not Twilight is right. I can see the meticulous care you took in not saying something about it, unlike so many stories where the existence of an author or force is confirmed somehow. The fact that Twilight could be depressed or mentally ill (which she is already, as you obviously know) and Celestia's reaction and response to it is wonderful. This is a story that speaks volumes to me personally, as the conclusions and thoughts Celestia have are the conclusions I made about this dilemma in my short life.
Thank you for writing this. It's grand, it's brilliant, and the details, of which the devil hides his wills, are spectacular. There's no need for a philosophical discussion or debate for, as Celestia proved, what's the point? Thank you for writing the personification of this mentality.
As a side note: almost 3,000 words and that's your longest? Wimp. I've gone up to twelve thousand.![]()
Upon seeing this update one thing came to mind: "its just a show; I really should just relax"
You know, the absolute most brilliant part of this story is the fact that it has no real confirmation of whether or not Twilight is right. I can see the meticulous care you took in not saying something about it, unlike so many stories where the existence of an author or force is confirmed somehow.
The meticulous care of sitting with my leg over my head at four antemeridiem, milking out the very last reserves of creativity and demanding a conclusive, non-compromising ending like some Enron executive grabbing cash from a vault as his web of special-purpose entities collapse around him. ![]()
Personally, I enjoy the last two words the best. 'It did' implies that Twilight continued existing after the end of the narrative, but wouldn't her continued existence be then part of the narrative itself? And if any reader still thinks of what happened after, has the narrative ever stopped?
Or is she just mad?
As a side note: almost 3,000 words and that's your longest? Wimp. I've gone up to twelve thousand.
Like never paying for EVE Online, never writing a pointless sentence is a principle upon which I have never compromised. ![]()
By god... that was the best thing I've read in a long time. Now I'm paranoid that I'm just a part of a big story, created by someone else.
But have you ever stopped to think about it, like, beyond the purpose of writing a fanfiction? I have. I can't help but feel, every time I write something, it creates... something else, another reality if you will, where those events are taking place. Is someone in another dimension writing about me? Writing this down at the VERY SAME TIME I AM? I don't know... and you have revived that idea in this fanfiction.
Or maybe I'm just crazy ![]()
>>1015437 Why is that a problem? Freeman's mind is the whole reason subscribed to machinima! Or, it could have been the narrative trying to add some variety to my life to keep the story going, to keep it strong, to give me personality that the readers would love.
You know, this reminds me of RatherHomely's A Lamentation About the 4th Wall. Except that one's about Pinkie Pie and it's far more depressing.
It's just that I have to start from the beginning again and then when I reach the end and get frustrated that it's only advanced an episode or two in the span of however many months. Last time I checked sometime last year, wanna say November. . . But yeah, last episode I saw was 39. I see it's only up to 41. . .
Like never paying for EVE Online, never writing a pointless sentence is a principle upon which I have never compromised.
Touche, sir. But I'd like to point out my twelve k mark was after I had made this promise to myself as well. Granted, I may have set my bar just a little too high since I burned myself out doing that. I think you're the more intelligent of the two of us.
"Maybe whatever’s writing this narrative is a self-depre-"cating author.
This story had so much wat that I don't even know how to opinion anymore.
That was an awesome story ![]()
If we are all part of a narrative, I don't think there's any point dwelling on it. There's no way we can influence it, since even our desire to influence it would be caused by the inherently omnipotent creator/writer. The control only goes one way.
But maybe that's not entirely true. After all, a story can go off in a completely different direction than that intended simply because that's what suits the characters better, or was more realistic in the context of the story.
The way I interpret the 'it did' is the same way some types of video, when they reach their end, just stop on the last frame. The final moment in the story is of Twilight in pain, but nothing exists after that moment - a concept nigh-impossible to comprehend.
Or maybe our imaginations are all just getting worked up about a bunch of meaningless symbols on a screen.
Whichever way it is, this was a great, thought provoking story. Well done ![]()
Face it 'Bats, you'd be lost without me!
It's only going on that long because it updates at the speed of sub zero molasses.
Now on the subject of the story? Not sure if meta or Twilight's being crazy, nice work walking the line and not saying wether or not it was really an 'author' if she was crazy. Leave you to think ![]()
Personally an idea I came up with was that Twilight saw her hectic ponyville life as getting monotonous, so she starts seeing things as scripted by a higher being, and said theory driving her toward insanity.
Either way, this was fucking brilliant ![]()
I came around, some time ago, to the position that a narrative is not the sole possession of its author. The audience is the one vital factor that the author can neither control nor do without; the entire purpose of a story is to engage the reader, and a story remains only a solipsistic gesture by the author until the reader's imagination breathes life into it. And if the reader's imagination rebels in horror or disgust or pity, if the reader refuses to suspend his disbelief, he is perfectly within his rights.
So for all of you who found yourselves disturbed or unsettled by this story, I believe I can point you in the direction of a palliative -- watch carefully, because I'll do it in one single sentence: I do not choose to believe that anything in this story actually occurred, in any meaningful sense.
I don't know about the rest of you, but none of this ever happened to the Twilight Sparkle in my head.
Huh. A happy ending. At least, if I'm reading it correctly. Twilight's free. Free until the next story, anyway, but still free. I foresee a very interesting philosophical thesis coming from her. Call it "narrativism."
Also, you managed to justify Celestia laying the royal smackdown on Twilight. Kudos for that. I didn't think it would be possible while keeping her in character.
Oh, thank God: reasonable disagreement. The last person who disagreed with my interpretation of a character said, in exact words, that I had literally created the interpersonal apocalypse and destroyed a precious and beloved ship. I actually had a dialogue half-written about the power of the reader - in fact, it was what Celestia was going to segue into - that I'll probably add in a chapter of outtakes later.
That being said, I doubt that they're disturbed because it happened to Twilight: even if only a fictional character felt depersonalised, the mental disorder in question is undoubtedly real. Unlike stories with dilemmas of pure fiction - adventure and feuds and fighting - this is purely psychological, with minds relatively same as ours.
I write everything, even ponyfic, at least partially as a verisimilitude for that very reason. Psychological horror and comedy, if we take the structures of the minds of the actors to be more or less identical, are universal. Even it didn't emotionally or psychologically impact you, it certainly did others.
I suppose I've got to be happy with appealing to the average.
For my banal comment of choice: "Happiness. Knowledge. Sanity. Pick two."
This was nicely put together. If it is of such importance that you must speak to me in person, it is clear that whatever you wish
is still missing an ending, but the story's actual ending makes up for it.
Wow... This was far more interesting than I initially expected...
I just got to say that now as I am currently writing a story, I now feel that in some greater way i have created another dimension in which the things in said story occur and in the completion of my story I only lead in the destruction of their dimension... Awesome, now I'm sad...![]()
See, I can negate the implications of this story, because in my head when being meta, stories aren't a creation, they're a retelling.
They aren't what the author makes, they're what the author sees.
Stories are a land all of their own, and we simply record them.
By the way, this was great!
That is all.
Journcy Out.
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i just realized the mental, philosophical, and physical implications of a narration (or narrative) running the universe, only in a way it already does. ![]()
time runs on a straight track, we have no free will,
was right,
was wrong, and you get a
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That was pure freaking genius at work, good sir........or maybe the narrative is making me type this.......OH MY SWEET CELESTIA!







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