That was awesome!

As a fan of both 40k and Ponies, I can say that I am look forward to more!

This is really well done ill tag this and wait for the next chapter i always loved Warhammer 40k fan fic that is writen well so keep the chapters a comming

MORE....NOW!

*cough* Sorry...

Will you please update.  

I like where this is going.

40K + Ponies = Fuck yes.

>>1733017330

Your wish is my command! Chapter 2 was on standby in case chapter one failed, but seeing that the reviews have been positive, I have gone ahead and updated. Chapter 3 is still in progress though, so do not expect to see it out as fast as ch. 2.

Okay..this is awesome and damn well written! More please!

YES!!!!!!!!!!!

Could you fix the spacing problem near the beginning?

best story ever  i want more

Only problems I'm having are the fact you keep switching the numbers of Twilight's group repeatedly,  you don't have more DAKKA, and you don't have more chapters out yet.

I must admit I like how this is going, at least for now :3 Lets see how long until the next update and where it takes us :3

Er, storm troopers in panick?? They can't be.

Woah, that was quick... Do you already have a bunch of chapters written? or...

Must have moar!

Warhammer/MLP:FiM   crossovers are one of my favorite, I just wonder what's going to happen when they meet Luna and Celestia. . . . . .and if either Luna or Celestia are the Lost Librarian, or if they were created by him. . .  . .

Sorry about the errors in relation to the group that went to the Everfree Forest. At first I had intended all of the mane 6 to go, but re-adjusted the group to add an important plot point later on, which included having Fluttershy back in Ponyville. At first Fluttershy was the one to find the petrified ork, but I went with AJ after the edit. It seems that my check over was not entirely done right and some original parts still stuck. My bad on that one. Also, this chapter was already done at the same time as the first, I simply held it back so I could gauge the feed back on the first chapter. All went well so I released it about an hour later. Thanks for the feedback, this is in fact my first fanfic so any critiquing is appreciated! Also the DAKKA will be introduced in chapter 3, if only for a bit. I plan on making this fic MASSIVE, just like the 40k books themselves, so the plot will not be entirely explained for a bit.

Is it bad that I really want to see a Librarian Twilight, a Terminator Applejack, an Assault Rainbow Dash, a Devastator Pinkie Pie, an Apothecary Fluttershy, and a Standard Bearer Rarity?

Of course they would be in the command squad of Chapter Master Celestia.

And stepping away from that odd fantasy, really interesting story so far. Can't wait for the next chapter.

First attempted battle scene here, so any feed back would be awesome. My first fanfic overall as well so critics are appreciated. Other than that, how am I doin' so far?

Hmmm... Space Marines versus Pinkie Pie...

I almost feel sorry for them.

God dammit, whens chapter 4 coming out? This is so fucking epic, now all it needs is noise marines butt raping everyone and the tau coming in and trying to convert the ponies

>>1958419584

>implying an animal half the size of a horse combined with type twenty seven diabetes can survive a bolter shot

Those poor Space Marines. Pinkie Pie is gonna drive them insane in seconds.

Great story though I love it when two so completely different subject get combined.

Great story. That was an interesting twist towards the end there. I wonder how they're going to pacify the Blood Ravens now that Twilight pissed them off. I'm looking forward to the confrontation between Gabriel and Farseer -I mean- Princess Celestia.

Interesting Trivia: Farseer Macha/Princess Celestia - Same voice actor

I pitty the poor psyker who tries to read Pinkie Pie's mind...

You know, I get the feeling that Pinkie Pie will fuck their minds and fuck all physics law. Just for fun. And throw them a party!

For some reason whenever Pinkie pie is in danger I smile.

It might be the fact that I want her to die or the fact she'll tell reality to fuck off and hippidy-hop her way out of certain death.

Also does anyone know the name of Librarian that invaded Twilights mind?  I see a plot point between them with twi feeling a little mad at him and the Librarian feeling a little bit guilty about what he did.

Seriously! he mind raped twi

>>1978219782

I Think it was Jonah.

>>1979019790

Thank you.

I never knew Space Marines were such assholes

>>1985319853 Only to Xenos!

Just to give the more inquisitive ones a hint, the next chapter might include some Pinkie/Space Marine comic relief. Even grimdark needs a laugh now and then, and the situation screams for it now!

the humies were lucky!

Great story so far. Ponies and WH40k make a great compilation.

Any hope for Chaoz Boyz or other native to our galaxy Xenos(other than orks and humies) ?

And when will be the next part?I know that its too soon to predict but Im just curious.

Well this fic is intended to be MASSIVE, so the story is just starting to really pick up, I don't wan't to give away any spoilers, but I can say for sure that no Tyranids will be in this story, as they would be a bit OP given the whole "Eradicate everything" thing they have going for themselves...  I am absolutely swamped with my AP World History course right now so an update time is unclear, though I can tell you that I am trying to squeeze in as much writing time in my schedule as I can!

My only two irks about this chapter are a.) Twilight immediately figuring that the bird emblem on the Blood Ravens armour was, well, a raven. A detail like that isn't something she should be able to immediately figure out, and b.) da orks didn' sound orky enuff!

But enough of that, onto the next chapter!

....Hoo boy.

Well, first off, the Blood Ravens are completely out of character and are complete assholes to a ridiculous degree in this story.

The Blood Ravens, and the rest of the Imperium, don't generally have a "kill on sight" policy for xenos, especially newly discovered ones. Only the the most fanatical (and therefor batshit insane) Imperials hold that policy across the board. And that policy is only applied to xenos like the Orks, Tyranids, and Dark Eldar who are all hostile to the extreme. Basically don't go and tread on the Imperium's toes like the Tau and the Imperium will leave you alone. Assuming that the Imperium is so xenophobic as to exterminate all xenos it comes across is a common mistake most folks make.

The Blood Ravens are also OOC, as mentioned already. They're rationale and while not as diplomatic as, say, the Ultramarines they don't act like assholes or go out of their way to be assholes. Case in point, they've allied with the Biel-Tan eldar in the past and have friendly connections with that craftworld. BIEL-TAN! If the Blood Ravens can get along with those crazy bastards who tend to hold a "kill on sight" policy for non-Eldar then the Blood Ravens can get along with frakkin' ponies.

Other than that, I'll keep an eye on this story for now. It's rough around the edges and has issues *points above* but it's still interesting.

Dude......I will sacrifice a couple slaves too this story.

Fucking stare. Wheres the Angry Marines when you need them?

>>2327323273

They dont have time to be a bunch of faggots and befriend everyone, they are incredibly busy fighting the million orks, which has so far been overlooked.

>>2327323273 I do see your points on this matter, but I took a good four hours reading up on 40k to make sure that I had the details well: 1) The Imperium is incredibly xenophobic, an example being the tau, in which an Imperial fleet was about to enact exterminatus on the homeworld of the tau when they found them. Seeing a sentient race immediately prompted them to load the torpedoes and begin to bombard the planet, at that point the tau were in their med-evil times and could do jack shit about it. A warp storm bloclking out the planet was the o;ly thing that stopped the Imperials from wiping them out for the next few thousand years. 2) I am well aware that the Blood Ravens have made deals in the past with the Eldar, but it took a lot of convincing to do it. And even then, they would usually end up fighting soon after due to the space marines ignoring the eldar. 3) The Blood Ravens have had a history of being pricks, look up the Tartarus campaign if you don't believe me. Plus, they just got sucked down onto a warp-world with no communications, so given that and the threat of millions of orks, I'm being generous in not having hem annihilate everything that they see. 4) the story is not even close to being done, so many other features and plot points have yet to be revealed. I appreciate the feedback, but hose are just my points on the matter.

>>2327323273 Plus, I would hope to see you write a 40k story of your own, seeing how much you know, and that you have none out yourself...

Humble question to those that do actually enjoy this story: a good rating would be very much appreciated. I just feel that any rating under 4 dissuades potential readers from... well... reading this story. so any ratings of 4 and up would be extremely appreciated.

>>2327323273

In total agreement, especially since Gabriel would not be such a prick.

I have to say I like this so far, I feel Gabriel is a little OOC, being GABRIEL MOTHERFUCKING ANGELOS (sorry just really love the guy) the single most rational minded human in all of the Imperium (not that that's saying much but still) he wouldn't say destroy the source of information like a sentient lifeform so fast; chaos relic sure, but something like a lifeform he'd probably take them as prisoners and interrogate. That being said, this is my only complaint I have, though I will agree with post >>2327323273 on the subject of Imperial xenophobia, there are multiple cases where xeno life has been allowed to exist so shoot on kill order may be extreme but I'll give you credit that those are worlds that weren't just spit wholesale out of the Warp, so maybe extra caution is warranted.

Overall I look forward to future chapters and seeing more of GABRIEL MF ANGELOS, being a badass and hopefully not killing all the Equans he comes across, Emperor knows the Orkz don't need any help in that department.

Stare. Yet another author uses comedy element without appropriate setting. There goes my expectation.

>>2345423454

1.) Yes the Imperium is incredibly xenophobic and with extremely good reason. But the Imperium did not discover the Tau, the Adeptus Mechanicus did who hold different policies. There are hundreds of minor xenos species that have been allowed to exist and live by the grace of the Imperium by simply not being threats, dicks, chaos worshiping dicks, or all three at the same time.

2.) Yes, the Blood Ravens established a few friendly connections with Craftworld Biel-Tan. That should tell you a lot. That they have friendly connections with the most militant and xenophobic craftworld of all the Eldar should say a lot about the Blood Ravens willingness to associate with xenos. Especially ones that aren't shooting at them or being threatening to them.

3.) Tartarus was not the fault of the Blood Ravens. Even if Gabriel hadn't let Inquisitor Toth convince him to destroy the Maledictum the planet was still a lost cause and would have been subjected to exterminatus to purge it of chaos taint. And if the Blood Ravens DID start shooting everything they see (which would be OOC), like Ponies, then they'd be earning themselves quick annihilation at the hooves of Celestia and Luna. Then you wouldn't have a story.

4.) Understood, but the behavior of the Ravens and Gabriel in particular is extremely grating. Hopefully that all changes in coming chapters.

And don't think that I'm harping on you over details. I just saw some things amiss and figured I'd point them out. And yes, you're right, I don't have any stories posted yet. I do have some in the pipe, 2-3 of which involve Warhammer, but they may be a little late coming since I'm a bit of a procrastinator.

@Trill

I never said they had to befriend everyone. What I said is that they wouldn't be being utter dicks to the ponies for being "xenos". The Blood Ravens aren't the Black Templars or Adepta Sororitas, and the Imperium at large doesn't have a "kill on sight" policy for all xenos like is commonly misbelieved. And I believe that the Imperials have been well aware of the Orks the entire time even before making landfall and have been busy making preparations to deal with them so I don't know how you think they've been "overlooked".

>>2369023690 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uVmdTf7Vcxc

1.Mostly Xenophobic Imperium of the Dead Emperor? Checked

2.Orks? Checked

3.Grim Future reality? Checked

4.Chaos/Warp Abominations/Necrons/Tau/others?  Unchecked

5.Next part?

Even if there is more to be done ,the Ruinous Powers are satisfied.

I just want to say, the primary reason that the Blood Ravens are acting as such is that when I submitted my rough drafts to the Ponychan review board, 90% of the reviewers thought that the Blood Ravens needed to be a bit more "dickish". So, I went with a bit more of a grimdark approach, but I did it my way. Notice how nopony is officially "dead" yet? I've been planning a certain faction to rear its head soon, a faction that Falling Brass did in fact mention earlier has ties to the Blood Ravens... Nevertheless, I am trying me best to please the masses.

oh for gods sake...it's a stare what the fuck can it do! nothing! it works an animals yes but he is a mamal

other than that it was good

I bet 10 bucks that Pinkie Pie is actually a chaos goddess.

You know, that would actually make sense in a 40k crossover. Pinkie is the chaos goddess of laughter and fun but doesn't really have any followers because everyone in the 40k universe is a collosal dick. Then she discovers Equestria and decides that it is perfect and starts living there among the mortals. That would explain quite a lot about Pinkie Pie.

>>2372823728

Have you watched the show at all? She's stared down a dragon bigger than a titan and made it bugger off, a random librarian less than two centuries old isn't that much impressive in comparison.

Other than that, good chapter. Zach is officially on my shit list though until he redeems himself.

Also, Fluttershy is best pony.

>>2382223822 um yeah! dragon? ass gets kicked by the space marine

>>2370623706 Discord. That is all.

>>2382223822

That dragon was nowhere near the size of a titan. Not by far.

>>2382223822

A titan is also more dangerous than a wild animal that runs on a primitive reptilian sentience.

>>2382223822

A titan is also more dangerous than a wild animal that runs on a primitive reptilian sentience.

Also, a dragon does not in any way have mental defenses against psyker attack like the Stare. Size means jack squat in this regard.

I'd better see a scene where Twilight finally has enough of Gabriel's shit, grabs the entire squadron up at once with her telekenesis, then crushes every weapon their holding into fine dust. They're being made into dicks just so we can then share a collective FUCK YEAH! moment when they finally get some humility slapped into them.

I wonder how do the Chaos Gods feel about the new planet that has entered their realm. Actually I don't want to know. There's no telling what will happen if Abaddon decides to show up, with or without his arms :3

>>2372823728

>Implying mammals are not animals.

There are a lot of spelling, capitalization, and grammar issues in the first few chapters -- far too many to list. However, later chapters seem to dispense with such errors, at least on the face of it. Thus, my advice is to get a beta reader and re-read the first few chapters yourself to snuff out any errors, as those errors could very well kill many potential readers.

The other problem I have with the story is that it keeps insisting that the ponies are "pure good" when that is clearly not the case in the show. While they're not quite as bad as the G1 characters it's still quite evident that G4 ponies have the capacity to be cruel, underhanded, selfish, hateful, and a variety of other dark impulses. Indeed, while our talkative Librarian friend was scanning the Mane Six he made note of several dark personality traits they had, like vanity and cockiness. A far more accurate thing to say, which wouldn't make the ponies seem like illogical Mary Sues, would be to say that they're free of Chaos taint -- for now.

I'll also add my voice to those saying that the Blood Ravens are being too dickish (maybe you could explain their willingness to threaten death upon the ponies as them being harsher because the planet JUST EMERGED FROM THE WARP!), and finish by saying that despite everything I listed I truly enjoyed the story on the whole, and I wish to see updates.

>>2410824108

"I've had enough of your shit, Gabriel!" Twilight yelled, galloping towards the squadron, her horn aimed at them, when suddenly she was slammed into the ground, her spine shattered and severed by a power fist.

"Nope." The terminator said, his neck elongating a few feet into the air.

>>2423924239

No, it's going to be another kronus campaign again. Everyone is going to come and the only thing that will end this is a cyclonic torpedo.

I'm getting really tired of the grimderp 40k fanon.  The Imperium is more than capible of being diplomatic when engaging in first contact.  In fact, normally, they would rather avoid pissing off the locals if it doesn't contradict their own goals, especially if they know that something that is equal to an Alpha+ psycher is somewhere on the planet.  The Imperium knows it has more than enough foes on it's plate as is, and chapter masters are given even more latitude than most commanders to make use of the locals, especially in diplomatically engaging them in order to avoid needless waste of the Imperium's resources.

The Imperium's "shoot first, ask questions NEVER" only applies to those that they KNOW to be their foes, and even then they can occasionally team up to deal with bigger threats.  Especially Angelos, who directly knows that appearances are not always as they seem.  His behavior towards what have been clearly non-combatants is both mind-boggling, and heretical in and of itself.  Waste not, want not is ingrained in the Astartes mindset.

He has already had it explained to him that other than the Orkz, the world is literally the purest thing the chapter librarian has ever seen other than Holy Terra itself, and he's seen straight up that at least one local is at least willing to deal with his forces on a charitable basis, and can play with cruisers like paper airplanes.  

In short, that section needs a re-write, and until the locals directly attack his forces, or show that they are entirely antagonistic to the Imperium, he is needlessly out of character by a massive degree.

Once again, it is only fanon that the Imperium shoots first, and asks Questions Never, and that it considers all Xenos to be nothing more than dirt, especially so with the Adeptus Astartes.  A guard commander, or priest, I could see.

Gabriel Angelos, CHAPTER MASTER of the Blood Ravens? Now it's getting insane.

>>2554325543

Lets look at it like this.

1. There's psykers, which obviously means the species interacts with the warp.

2. Interacting with the warp causes their emotions to funnel into the warp.

3. The emotions condense into a Chaos God.

4. Celestia and Luna are chaos gods and the planet should be commited to exterminatus.

Sorry but I don't see how Gabriel was being out of character, hell he didn't even attack the mane 6, the tactical squad and Zacchaeus (in self defense) did. Granted, according to lexicanum(warhammer 40k wiki) they are indifferent to new alien species, but would you let someone who has connections to the ruler of the planet, run off with the knowledge that you are planning to cause mass warfare on their planet, when they have apprently never had major conflict, and 1/3 or so their species are psyker equivelent. That would cause mass panic, and Jonas knows psykers+strong emotions=daemon possetion which equals CHAOS spawning everywhere, which is worth killing a few locals to prevent.

Also Equestria came from the warp, a LITERAL hell, it would be safe to assume that most Imperials would think it a daemon world of sorts, especially considering the ponies resemble a Terran species, so maybe Gaberiel thinks their mutated horses. Also the marines only opened fire once they think twilight is a psyker, you know beings that are prone to opening portals to the warp and unleashing daemons, right after she caused a massive flash similar to how a psyker gets possed? And the fact that Jonas only planed on killing her after readnig her mind, proably finding out about Celestia, a local GOD other then the emperor. I would also like to note thats thats an even bigger no-no in the imperium then Aliens. So yeah, even if the imperium dosn't do a IMMEDIATLY KILL ALL ALIENS ON SIGHT thing, they do kill heretics on sight.

And once again, it has been stated by one of his top advisors that Equestria is as far as they can tell, an untainted world.  Cleaner than most IMPERIUM worlds, even.  

And, Gabriel gave the order to kill before he knew the locals had powers, when he ordered Jonas to MIND WIPE Twilight after he was done.  That's killing, no matter how you slice it.  Twilight struck first to defend herself once she realized what she had ordered.

Once again, needlessly antagonistic when the Astartes, especially their chapter masters, are given express diplomatic powers above and beyond any other section of the Imperium if it will help accomplish their mission.  He is not some young punk who's drunk too much of the Imperium's own koolaid to not realize that pissing off the locals, especially currently PURE locals, and adding yet another enemy to the list of things to do, ESPECIALLY when an Alpha+ psycher is somewhere in the building is a very very stupid idea.

We've had plenty of examples in 40k that they're not that crazy, and the Ravens are one of the more diplomatic chapters on top of that.  

Oh, and the Imperial Cult is a little more flexible than you think.

Made it to the end and I am liking what I see so far, though I do partially agree with what has been said by others in terms of the Raven's hostilities. On a related note however, what I figured would have been more deeply explored was the Raven's reactions to the new species being a Terran species on top of speaking the language. (Is age the difference between high and low gothic? because if that is true then Ponies using Low Gothic would point to them having had contact with Humans in the past) On a slightly different note, the royal guard pony seemed rather brash and quick to act which seems at odds with the very few depictions we have seen from them so far (Like RD said, Too Good at their jobs)

>>2579025790

I'll say it again. Gabriel just said they would cause mass warfare on Equestria, (in fanfic) Equestria has never seen mass warfare, people react to war very badly, let alone a MAJOR war in a world were the populas has never seen major conflicts, 1/3 or so the race are psykers, psykers+panic=daemons spawning up the wazoo. Now while Unicorns may not be psykers, to Jonas they seem to be about the same thing. Jonas (all this and other stuff of him knowing is due to the mind probe, which i assume was done thoroughly) also knows Twilight has a PERSONAL CONNECTION with the ruler who Twilight thinks is peaceful, and therefore would try to stop this conflict, a MAJOR problem to what the Blood Ravens want to do. Jonas knows twilight is pure, Gabriel didn't, to him Twilight has a mutant horse from a planet that has just recently come out of a place that is for the most part literaly hate, malice, and evil incarnate. So if anyone is acting out of character, or in this case acting like a moron, its Jonas, for not telling Gabriel that Twilight is "pure".

Also you think that MAYBE the blood ravens could be under major stress with a species that is a liability due to them not being able to defend them selves (all Gabriel saw of them was them standing around doing nothing at all while orks charged them) while they(Blood Ravens) have to kill said orks, that is something that most people in the imperium military would rather not deal with. Sides Gabriel never said why Jonas had to kill him, Gabriel probably though it was a mutant, Jonas knew(once again mind probed Twilight) that they had a frickin goddess, hell not just one, but TWO gods who are not the emperor and not primarchs (don't bother starting up a argument about the sisters being the 2 missing primarchs, all known primarchs are male due to it being impossible for females to get primarch geneseeds, so what logic would it make to have female geneseeds intended for males?), you know a MAJOR HERESY, even less tolirated then xenos and mutants.

So now I am willing to accept the imperium dosn't have a kill all aliens on sight policy, hell Lexicanum agrees with you. What I am NOT willing to accept is that they would not kill, what for the most part resembles/is mutant horses, who worship a heretical god, not to far out to say Jonas and Gabriel would try to kill them.

IMO, I think we're all digging a little too deep into the motives of each faction. As the story progresses jumping from shark to shark, I think we should reserve judgement until we know what side the Imperium is actually on. As of yet, no one has been "killed " or worse "fallen to chaos". Though there are some questions concerning the campaign that surely must be taking place behind scenes, it's been relatively tamed.

It could be waaaaay worse, imagine if they'd brought Titans

With that said, I like where the story is going so far. Plus, this is Gabriel Angelos that's leading campaign, he won't disappoint. However, if it were Boreale....

SPESS MEHREENS, WE STAND HERE ON AN ALIEN PLANET POPULATED BY SMALL HOARSE LIKE XENOS! OUR SPESS SHIPS HAVE MYSTERIOUSLY PERFORMED UNAUTHORIZED STEEL REHN aw forget it I can't keep a straight face.

>>2405224052

Bah, I remember him being a big bastard. At  the very least as big as a Warhound but smaller than a Warlord.

>>2382223822

Spike's a dragon.

>>2554325543

1.) So does Humanity; and any number of races.

2.) Same with Humanity; and you don't need to be a psyker to affect the Warp.

3.) Any warp entity created by the emotions of ponies would be an anathema to Chaos.

4.) No evidence at all for this assertion.

>>2701927019

1. Well humanity atleast(partly) knows about the aliens, and most have some sort of combat experince

2. Only psykers (who dont have proper equipment) can open daemon spawning warp portals

3. What? pony being in fear will be anthema to chaos? You do know the chaos gods grow stronger to ANY emotion they have domain over, sure positive emotion will make them nicer, but equestria good+ALL OF WARHAMMERS EVIL=Still realy realy realy evil

4. Well granted the author never stated Gabriel thought they were mutants but I have a reason to why he would. So assume Gabriel knows what a pony is (either he knew or his scouts told him whatever), Gabriel said mind search then wipe he never said heretic, xeno, mutant or why he wanted them killed, Jonas mind searched Twilight (I assume this means he knows everything twilight does), Jonas knew of Celestia/Luna, those two are known as gods to twilight, granted also her mentor, Jonas now knows this species have gods that are no the emperor, and for the most part resemble mutants of a known species. Theirfore it is reasonible to assume that Jonas thinks that these species are heretics.

So my logic is Gabriel though the ponies mutants, Gabe never said why he should mind wipe so Jonas just though if he found a reason he should mind wipe(or that Gabriel knew something that he didn't dosn't mater), Jonas (probally/most likely) found out about Celestia and Luna, to Jonas these means ponies=heretics, heretics=people who need to die as soon as possible. So Gabriel thinks ponies=mutites, Jonas thinks ponies=heretics. These are signs of chaos, chaos=bad and must die. Get my logic now?

>>2701927019

The 4 chaos gods also embody good characteristics such as,

Nurgle: Love

Khorne: Courage

Tzeentch: Knowledge

Slaanesh: Eccentricy

>>2720227202

1.) Relevance?

2.) False; so long as you know the proper rituals you're able to, having or being a psyker just makes it easier. Hell, psykers and regulars folks can become the portals themselves, rather explosively. Psykers are just at bigger risk.

3.) Given that the ponies existed, up until now, in Chaos free pocket of the Warp their collective emotions would have eventually spawned a good Warp entity. If they haven't already; Celestia and Luna could very well be warp entities in this story.

4.) And what does that have to do with Trill's assertion that Celestia and Luna are Chaos gods? Not only that but your entire argument and logic are both laughable wrong, not to mention difficult to read. Mutants are by Imperial definition Warp or Chaos affected abominations and, also by definition, have unstable genetics. Ponies are genetically stable and aren't tainted by Chaos to any degree. And they can't be heretics, unless you're an off-yer-rocker puritan or nutcase. They don't adhere to the Imperial Cult, and currently to our knowledge thus far they never have. To be a heretic you'd have had subscribed to the Imperial Cult then broke off from it, or simple refused it. The former hasn't occurred and the latter is still in the air.

>>2701927019

Yes but when was the last time they embodied those traits in a way that didn't want to make you commit suicide or pry your eyes out with a spork? Yes Nurgle loves you, either dead or as something that looks like it marinated in a diseased septic tank for a few months. Courage with Khorne isn't really courage, you don't need courage when you got  big chain axe and are too pissed off at EVERYTHING to care about trivialities like "living" or "incoming hostile fire". Tzeentch; okay, you got me there. Slaanesh; eccentricity is fine. Slaanesh's brand of it, however, is NOT fine. Unless you're a hentai girl, and maybe not even then. Plus, I think that GW drummed out any possible traces of "good" out of the Chaos gods in recent years. Khorne for instance used to have honour, of a form, and hunted down murders with some kind of daemonic hound (don't recall the name), even on Imperial worlds. Old fluff.

>>2793227932

1. You talked about how ponies interfering with the war and asked how it was diffrent then humans interfering, most humans can fight, most of humanity lives in hive worlds, aka place with major amounts of Gang violence and the police equivlent will some times kill of civies to lower the population to a managible amount, their are also death worlds, also consider that inquistors have different views on religon and the Ecclesiarchy recomends violence to people who don't have your same view point, Equestria on the other hoof acording to this fic has low-none violence, and dosn't have anything resembiling a military force that would do ANYTHING to slow down a ork waaaghhh. So what Im saying is warhammer 40k Humans>ponies in reacting and combating a invasion.

2. Yes, but that realy dosn't mater as twilight was identifyed as a psyker and made a bright flash while puting out a lot of magic, you know something that resembles a psyker becoming a portal like you said/becoming possesed. And unicorns are pretty much psykers, when they go mass panic, they will start geting possessed by daemons

3. Ummm, they never said Equestria was IN the warp before this, I assumed that a massive warp strom opened over Equestria and swallowed the planet whole or something like that(if you can show me your logic I will take that back and go with what you said). Also Discord ruled before Celestia/Luna, Tzeentch must have grown strong during that reign, Also you do know that for all of Equestrias exsistance and good bits they would create at most a below average greater daemon right?

Lets look at Slaneesh the weakest of the chaos gods. It took a fairly slow decent into hedonism(so long time geting stronger and stronger every day) of a galactic species, also note this is from eldar stuff, eldar live around 1000 years so to them a long time is extremly long for us, this created Slaanesh who immediatly took what amounted to be several thousand planets that were at peace time(recovering from a war but still peace) Slaaneshs birth created the eye of terror, largest known warp storm ever, AS A SIDE EFFECT, he then pretty much slaughtered the eldar pantheon whos strongest gods, Khaine, power divided by 1000s is the equivilent of demi-god(primarchs need some help fighting off avatars as showen by Fuilgrim), only reason that Khaine survived was due to a younger khorn fighting over Khaines body shatering it, only reason Isha survived was due to Nurgle waging a war for her from Slaanesh, only reason Cegograch survived was due to him running like a coward into the webway.

Celestia's greatest feat is a realy vauge moving the sun and banishment, not realy impressive considering that daemon princes can control the daemon world they rule over like its clay, and even greater daemons can create massive warp portals to, well the warp. And we all know chaos gods>greater daemons, and daemon princes

4. Yes mutants are hated by imperials. The ponies resemble horses that are sentients and have psykers, common mutations are hoves, horns, and wings you know? stuff that ponies have? making them look like mutated horses, or humans who mutated into pony like creatures, granted they ARENT that but they sure do resemble that. By heretic I mean they worship a god that is not the emperor, lexicanum has this to say.

Heresy

A religious opinion, act or doctrine going against the Imperial creed. Heresy is often not merely an unconventional religious viewpoint, but the act of Chaos worship.

Heretic

A person guilty of heresy.

Imperial Creed, Imperial Cult

The state religion of the Imperium. Its underlying principle is the worship of the Emperor as a god. See Imperial Cult, Ecclesiarchy.

The imperial creed is worship of the emperor, do the ponies worship the emperor? No, they worship Celestia, so they have a religious opinion that is going against the impeiral creed. The Gabriel and Jonas god like beings that just came from the warp is pretty much the same as chaos god. Also dont bother going for unconventional religious viewpoint, that means they worship the emperor in a diffrent way then standard, they don't even worship him. Since this is heresy that the ponise are doing, they are heretics to Gabriel and Jonas.

I'll write it step by step to show you what I mean

1. Ponies sort of look like a mutant horse, or humans that have mutated enough to look like ponies.

2. Gabriel says mind read/wipe due to him thinking ponies=mutants and should die for being mutants

3. Jonas get info from twilights head

4. Twilight knows Celestia/Luna is generaly worshiped throughout Equestia

5. Worship god that isn't the emperor=Heresy

6. Jonas is going to mind wipe twilight due to Heresy

7. Twilight starts spawning a massive amount of warp energy/magic(similar enough dont care if their diffrent) and glows bright

8.Space marines know that when a psyker is going to open a daemon portal he unleashes massive amounts of energy and creates a bright light(the portal itself is the light)

Also the chaos gods DO have those positive traits, its just a lack of them being used over the more evil ones leave them, less effecting the gods and such. Also Nurgle does care about his followers, thats why he makes the diseases become not 100% agony to his followers (he also is known to sometimes revive his followers if they do enough good for him), Khorn does have courage, he demands that anyone who worships him is not a coward, Tzeentch is actualy hope, pure hope that will want not mater what it takes to get what it wants, even hurting untoled billions, and no fear of consiquence, Slaanesh, well never been big on Slaanesh so can't talk their. Its not that the chaos gods show their possitive traits in a good way, their a corruption of said traits.

Sorry if you don't understand where I'm comming from, but who realy cares? This is nit-picking over a very un-known peice of fluff and me over analzying everything down to the word. Look atleast its the blood ravens being on bad terms with a xeno race, which is beliveble and not too OOC, and not say, the Salamanders burning down Equestria.

>>2793227932

1.) Again, how is that relevant? Not only that but I've never made these assertions that you claim I've made, what're you on about? I said that Humanity is basically not unlike ponies concerning psykers and them interacting with the Warp, and you're going on about...something completely unrelated.

2.) And your....argument has nothing to do at all with the point I made.

3.) In regards to Equestria being in a Chaos free pocket of the Warp, my bad. I was thinking of another FiM/40K fic; "Friendship is Sanctioned" on FF.Net.

The rest of your "argument" is, quiet frankly, crap, besides, once again, being mostly unrelated to my point. And the Lexicanum, being a wiki, isn't a valid source of factual information. Just look at my points to see how wrong you are.

As for the Chaos gods and "good" traits, no. Any "good" traits they might, or once have, embodied are twisted to the point where they're no longer good. Like I said; Nurgle will love you, yes, but as a fucking pus sack on legs. Yes Khorne demands courage, but his brand is all about homicidal fury that more often than not borders on fearless psychotic insanity, not actual courage at all. And Tzeentch is a dick, can't really say much about him besides his brand of hope being as twisted as Khorne's brand of courage.

Also, if you reply, try to be more clear about what you're trying to say. Because to me it seems like you're trying to tell me several different things at once while running off on unrelated tangents.

>>2857028570

fine I'll break up my argument into sections with all cap titles so you know what I mean since we somehow changed what we were argueing about for the first two things. And to also look less clutered

Hell I'll even use some quotes

PONIES/HUMAN INTERACTION WITH WAR

1. I said ponies would act bad to war

"I'll say it again. Gabriel just said they would cause mass warfare on Equestria, (in fanfic) Equestria has never seen mass warfare, people react to war very badly, let alone a MAJOR war in a world were the populas has never seen major conflicts"

you said humans would too

"1.) So does Humanity; and any number of races"

I tried to prove humans would react less bad

"Well humanity atleast(partly) knows about the aliens, and most have some sort of combat experince"

+

"You talked about how ponies interfering with the war and asked how it was diffrent then humans interfering, most humans can fight, most of humanity lives in hive worlds, aka place with major amounts of Gang violence and the police equivlent will some times kill of civies to lower the population to a managible amount, their are also death worlds, also consider that inquistors have different views on religon and the Ecclesiarchy recomends violence to people who don't have your same view point, Equestria on the other hoof acording to this fic has low-none violence, and dosn't have anything resembiling a military force that would do ANYTHING to slow down a ork waaaghhh. So what Im saying is warhammer 40k Humans>ponies in reacting and combating a invasion"

Also when did I talk about people/ponies reacting to psykers? I talked about psyker/psyker equivilent(unicorns) reacting to mass warfare

" 1/3 or so the race are psykers, psykers+panic=daemons spawning up the wazoo"

TWILIGHT TELEPORTING LOOKS LIKE POSSESSED PSYKER

2. What I am trying to say is abasicly "Twilight teleporting looks like a psyker opening a daemon portal"

"A blinding light engulfed Twilight and the other mares, the Unicorn's hat flying off to reveal a furiously glowing horn underneath."

going by game graphics here but I got nothing else to go by realy so http://spacemarine.wikia.com/wiki/File:Corrupted_Psyker.jpg

Bright light, check. Something glowng when using magic (horn for twilight/eyes and skull for psyker, checl)

MY LOGIC TO WHY GABRIEL AND JONAS ARE TRYING TO KILL THE PONIES

4. My argument made sense to me, let me post it in the most simple way I can

1.Gabriel ordered mind wipe due to thinking the ponies are mutant horse (what else would they look like?)

"Now..." the words Gabriel spoke interrupted her thinking "I have told you much, and now I expect even more from you. Jonas!" The human that Twilight had seen shoot fire approached the Chapter Master. "I want you to pick her mind clean. Every detail, every scrap of information, analyze it, then wipe out the source."

2.Mutants are signs of chaos, reason enough to kill

3.Gabriel never said why execute

4.Jonas mind searched twilight

"Her mind was being invaded, psychic presence of the librarian probing her memories, looking over each induvidual event, detail, and location, then moving to the next. It felt wrong, unimaginably wrong. This was the most private place that anypony had and he was trespassing. He spoke directly into her mind."

5.Jonas find a reason for killing twilight, that reason is Heresy (I'll assume that he found out about Celestia and Luna)

(if you feel like not using lexicanum, even though a place edited by hardcore fans only using canon material, then fine I'll use Oxford Dictonaries Online for the definition of dictonary)

http://oxforddictionaries.com/definition/heresy?region=us

Heresy: belief or opinion contrary to orthodox religious (especially Christian) doctrine. Their heresy=not following orthodox religion, even more stern for this definition only allows orthodox religion and not unorthodox worship like the other one does.

Also the OTHER 40k wiki appears to have something that agrees with the other.

http://warhammer40k.wikia.com/wiki/Heresy

Heresy: In the Warhammer 40,000 universe, the act of heresy is a religious opinion, act or promulgation of a doctrine that contradicts the beliefs and the commandments of the Imperial Cult of the God-Emperor of Mankind.

So that Lexicanum, Oxford, and warhammer40k.wikia that agrees with my definition of heresy ( "acts/belief that goes againts a churchs view point" in case you cared about hearing my definition) that would agree with the ponies being heretics

6.The heresy was worship Celestia and Luna, also not worshiping the emperor, which is realy the only imperial religous docturne

7.Heresy=reason to kill in the imperium

CHAOS GOD EMOTION ARGUMENT

Yes thats what I mean. The chaos gods have good traits, though they twist the traits into ways that suit them. They still gain power through said traits and it will also effect their personallity, though only a little bit.

LACK OF STUFF TO GO ON FROM YOUR SIDE

Also I don't see how you saying my argument is unrelated to your argument when all you say is my argument is unrelated (that is all you have said about my argument of why Jonas and Gabirel want to kill twilight) has no proof, and my argument is me trying to justify my thoughts.

HOW TO MAKE IT EASIER FOR ME TO GIVE A GOOD RESPONSE

Please, if you want me to be "related" to your argument, copy my argument with quotation marks, break it up, show me what parts you disagree with and a reason why. Since its very hard to argue with what adds up to "your not being relevant" as I have no points to go againts other then trying to say what I aready said but more clear. Give me something to work with other then you saying , not relevant. I am giving you several paragraph and a list, all I got is a single sentence.

No realy, you wont belive how bad it makes me feel when I spend like 10-20 minutes typing/googling/quoting/editing and all I get is like a small response that looks like it took around a minute or so to write up.

PS

Also I will not bother to more arguments about if the chaos gods are 100% evil and if they have good emotions blah blah blah, since I do not want to bother with an off topic argument anyway.

My head is hurting from all of your guys faggotry. This story has not progressed far enough for some deep bullshit nerdrage, either wait until the story is done or get a life. I for one think this story is perfect so far, and I hope it will continue like that.

>>2866328663

You're arguments are well thought out, but they're missing two very important points.

1) There are plenty of species in the Imperium that look like Terran species, but are not. (Three words: Catachan barking toad.) indeed, there are a variety of sentient species living within the Imperium itself that look like "mutant frogs" or "mutant apes," but which by all accounts get along fine with the Imperium. Jonas had already told Gabriel that the world was extraordinarily peaceful and that there was a powerful force keeping them from flying above a certain altitude, so Gabriel had no reason to be anything other than diplomatic to the first sentient species he comes across on an unknown world -- after all, that purple unicorn might the sovereign ruler of the planet, and would you really want to piss off someone who could order what happened to the Orks to happen to your ships?

2) The Imperium has missionaries that they send to newly discovered worlds to convert them to the Imperial cult. That fact alone that they do that proves that Jonas wouldn't consider Twilight a heretic. Indeed, she's never even heard of the light of the God-Emperor, so how can she be anything other than a lost little lamb in need of shepherding into the metaphorical herd?

>>3014430144

Well you'r beter off then brass, due to having a real argument, so grats to that.

1. For one, I wont bother looking through all of  "other speices" due to not wanting to read like 50 small articles due to my computer loading everything very slowly. But the odd few I looked at were either, confinded to their planet, killed, or did not mention their fate. The two that you specificly talked about I ( well think that I do atleast) know about them. The frog is from catcha right? the exploding one that kills everything in a half killometer radius? Its not sentient so nope, their not on good terms with that. The apes are the ones that were used in the grey knight arms right? I never played grey knights(nor the table top ever, mostly read the books, play dawn of war, and go off from disscussons online) so I assumed they were natural apes, or the imperiums slaves. I also might say that most of the species that the imperium "discovers" arent 100% xenos. Before the great crusade humanity owned like 95% of the galaxy, most species that the imperium (re)discovers were realy just mutant humans.

2. Ok they do have those, completly forgot them since they rarley apear in books. But this is what appears to be xenos(which does destroy my argument since the imperium has a no kill, contain them to their planet and keep them under watch thing) and they imperium would not bother converting xenos to the Ecclesiarchy.

So grats, you managed to break my argument. So I'll go back to my back up.

Assume the space marines saw canterlot and poneville while descending, those would look like medieval world cities would they not? Most of the species resembles mutants, Twilight knows of manticores, Ursas, and other creatures(sorta resembles Terran creatures, but far enough to look like mutants, not similar looking species as far as the space marines are conserend). Equestria came out of the warp, this is a rare event, though it still happens every now and again, lets assume that Gabriel has not heard of any medieval world being taken whole by a warp storm, he would probably assume it was swallon up a long time ago. While in the warp, with no gellar field to speak of, Equestria would be under the attacks of daemons and the chaos gods and such. If anything survived they would be mutated as hell, and gone insane. They ponies reacted in a strange way(complete shock to orks and space marines, orks would probably be the most well known xenos, and space marines are legendary/myths, so kinda well known, a average person form the Imeprium would react with running away to the orks, and immediatly respect for the space marines). Reacting this way would be a sign of insanity in the imperium (space marine the game shows the respect to space marines with guards bowing to you, and the Guards mans uplifter primer book thing talks about how orks are weak, Ciphas Cain has bits of guards reading the primer for giggles and laughing at how un true it is. the Imperial guards as conscript people during real war time, in the 40k world, being assulted by daemons would cause the local army to conscript the bloody hell out of everyone, and they would get the guardsmens primer, and know how laughbly false it is). This would be proof of chaos taint, and enough reason to kill them all.

To break it up

1. Equestira came out of warp

2. It looks like medieval world

3. It has mutant like speices

4. Assumed no medieval world has been swallon up by the warp recently

5. Nothing that is in the warp for that long can go uncorrupt short of space wolves and grey knights

6. Insanity is a sign of chaos taint

7. Ponies acted in a un-onscripted human way

8. Being attacked by daemons in warp would cause any human world to start conscripting

9. This is the proof ponies look like chaos tainted mutants

10. Anything under that much chaos taint has to die

Also the only flaw I could think of is Im not 100% sure a medieval world would have guardsmen on it, or the uplifter however you bloody spell it is given to the knights, so I might assume it is. If not the imperium has medieval/gothic architecture everywere, its wouldn't be hard to belive imperial palaces/forts/Hq/ect would be designed like a actual castle or something.

>>3039030390

Again, you're missing a critical piece of intel here: Jonas told Gabriel that the planet was uncorrupted when they landed. Gabriel trusts Jonas, and as such would go on the assumption that there is incredibly powerful force on the planet that's keeping the Ruinous Powers at bay (not to mention saving his ships from certain destruction). Working off that, Gabriel would have no reason to be anything other than diplomatic to any sentient species he comes across, whether they look like horses or not. (Again, looking like a horse with a horn doesn't make a creature a mutant.)

Also, I'm curious, just how the bloody hell does the Mane Six not acting like Imperial Guardsmen peg them as insane? There are worlds in the galaxy that have never heard of the orks or the Space Marines, after all. More to the point, they're obviously not Imperial Guard!

>>3045830458

1. Wait what? let me check the story again. Ok found it. I think I must have skiped that bit due to it being mostly exposition, and I find exposition boring so I skiped bits of it(mostly that bit due. But if Jonas told Gabriel that, Gabirel ordering the mind wipe was just....stupid in every sense of the word. Ok thats not out of character, just sort stupid.

2. Well my argument is invalid now to the whole, Jonas telling Gabe Equestria was free of taint, but might as well try to justify WHY I said what I said and make myself look like less foolish. Equestria looks like a medevial world(or world with medieval architecure via canterlot, which is kinda hard to miss being ingraved into the mountain, and the imperium seems to love the hell out of using castle and such even outside of medieval worlds) that went through the warp. IF THIS DID HAPPEN it would cause the daemons to attack the planet non-stop. that would lead the the guardsmen to retaliate, they would start loosing massivley and start conscripting the populas, if they won they would have been able to fight of daemons, which is much worse then around 20-30 orks and would have easly charged in and fought them, IF the guardsmen lost the battle againts the daemons they would have been carupted by chaos, mutation and insanity all, them not acting like Caida 2.0 ment the theoretical guardsmen which are stationed on any imperial planet, lost the battle and are carrupted by chaos.

Or to be make it simple, anyone who live on a planet that not 1-3 hours ago came from the warp would be able to handle themselves againts a few ork boyz. The only other possibilty would be they became chaos worshipers to not have their souls ripped out of their body and becoming daemon food. Since the ponies did not even try to fight the orks they had to be chaos worshipers. I should have porbably gone with that in the first place.

Though the anti-chaos force field thing does sorta of destroy that like my other argument. Unless Gabriel thought that Equestria collided into the webway(In the dawn of war novel and eldar fluff daemons cant get in through the webway) right before exiting the warp and that acted like a filter, though that is just dumb, granted that image is hilarious in my head, its still very very dumb.

So fine, you win, I lose, can't think of a fancy(or even a nice way) or saying that I lost. Realy though I just can't belive that the one part I skimmed over was like the most important thing. Now Im expecting some aseop of "check everything 100% before making any claim" to apear over my head.

This fic is great, keep up the good work!

>>3045830458

Gabriel, I am not detecting any corruption, but we cant be certain this isnt a dormant necron tomb world so lets be angreh

also:

inb4 blood ravens are "gifted" the elements

and:

eversor assassin is deployed and war ends in an hour

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>>3078130781

I wouldnt actually be surprised if ponies discovered necrons underground in their world and put them in display on the streets.

Well, if your story has this much of an argument following it you must be doing SOMETHING right.

I'm not going to go into a long winded and half assed speech about it but i believe i should quote the Astartes maxim

"Kill the mutant,

Burn the heretic,

Purge the unclean"

and to be honest i think a planet spontaneously appearing from the warp would be classified as unclean. Even if scans should that it was pure it still caused massive anomalies with the space ships so it can't be that pure can it. Aaaaand it also hosts a huge population of nascent psykers and possible mutants (or would seem to the Astartes) just like Cyrene would you not say? and an exterminatus was called upon for less reasons than what Equestria is displaying. So i agree with the Blood Ravens course of action in this story. And i think they are actually going about it a bit calmer than i thought they would. And if anything praise the emperor that its not the Iron Hands i'd hate to think of what would happen if it was them. (Damn this did become a speech didnt it. Oh well.)

>>3269132691

Just think what the Blood Angels or Space Wolves would do if they got a hold of Equestria.

>>3281032810

Oh dear god i'd hate to think of it. Poor pegasus' would probably have their wings torn off and the unicorns would have their horns ripped out. By the Death Company and Blood Claws only i'd think

I just can't say I agree with the hardass portayal of the Blood Ravens here. Maybe if it was the Grey Knights, Ultramarines, Dark Angels (paranoid as hell, remember?), definitely the Blood Angels would all be major assholes. However, the Blood Ravens are significantly less paranoid and more diplomatic. They even sided with the Eldar for a time, under the command of Angelos. Their motto is similar to that of followers of Tzeentch, "Knowledge is power, guard it well." Their first action is always to study and observe, never to attack outright and always to carefully and thoroughly assess the truth of the situation before they move in. Right now, they're not being diplomatic in any sense. They were going to rip all the information out of Twilight's mind and then purge her brain for no explicable reason. That feels totally out of character for the Blood Ravens, as they don't do anything without a clear intent and without extremely exact planning behind it.

Regardless, this is close to the best 40k crossover yet done with FiM, and I really do want to see it completed.

Also, trying to say that the order to wipe twilight's mind was due to heresy is complete BS. Jonas was given that order before he went into Twilight's mind, and neither he nor Angelos had heard anything of any sort of religious belief from the ponies, and they had no knowledge of Celestia or Luna. There was no given hint that the ponies had any religion at all before Angelos ordered the mind wipe. Therefore, there is no grounds for heresy, just the condition of being xenos. Lack of religion or any religious faith does not mean heresy or atheism, it just means there's no established religion.

What's this?  Not writing more of the emperor's favorite fanfiction?!  That's HERESY, and punishable by summary execution.  Get to writing, guardsman!

>>3358633586

Thats because the blood ravens are descended from the fucking thousand sons, a TZEENTCH CHAOS SPACE MARINE CHAPTER

learn to fluff

>>3384633846

That doesn't refute anything I said, at all. If anything you have reinforced my points by stating stuff I forgot to mention.

Question to the above and future below.

WHO GIVES A SHIT? Seriously, you guys are wasting keystrokes over nothing.

>>3417834178

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Sorry about the huge update time, I did not want to call it a hiatus as I have been writing, just not very much. Finals this week  so I've been in a battle of attrition against the armies of homework... I have been getting in some writings when available and come the end of testing tomorrow, I'll get right back onto schedule so expect chapter 5 this weekend. As for the comments... I never expected to have such an outspoken base of readers,! The feedback is outstanding and I have to say some of the reasoning and ideas that have been presented blew my mind! Hopefully chapter 5 will have a good amount of explanations as to why all that has happened has... well... happened. Still truly awesome to have had such a huge response, especially for my first published fic! Thanks again!