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Sep
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2015

Visiden Tries It: Project Horizons · 7:39am Sep 8th, 2015

There's been a bit of rumbling about the site for a while since this fic showed up, and the comments I've seen have been mixed. I've mentioned before that I haven't checked it out for myself, now's the time to change that.

I'm going to try something different this time. I'm going in neutral, leaving this blog post open as I read on. I'll quote bits I want to comment on until the end of the first chapter. It may end up looking like a riff, but I'm not going into this fic hating it. However this turns out, it's just my thoughts as I read along.

Alright...

Let's start with first impressions...

23k words as a first chapter? That's not exactly inviting now, is it? And it's made more poignant by having the succeeding chapters not even half as long. I suppose one should have braced for this when the story is 1.5 million words long.

War. War never changes.

And neither does this tagline. Oh, but wait. It's

“Once upon a time, in the magical land of Equestria…”

War. War never changes.

That's actually a nice bit of juxtaposition between the two opening lines associated with the two crossover elements.

I trotted into the sector’s communal bathroom, and immediately my ears perked to a familiar giggling. Walking past a stall, I glanced in at two mares employing unauthorized and probably ineffective washing techniques. According to the training manual, behavior like that in public spaces was punishable by whipping and restriction to C class rations, so it was pretty understandable that the pair looked up with some trepidation when they spotted me.

“Oh, it’s just Blackjack,” the dappled mare, Pastels, said in relief before flushing and snapping at her partner, “I swear, you are trying to get us flogged!”

“Fun,” giggled the white mare, Misty Hooves from the bakery, nuzzling her. Misty was a chronic offender. I didn’t know if she liked the kiss of the whip or if there was something else wrong with her. Or both.

I sighed. In theory, I was supposed to discourage this kind of thing. However, it fucking sucked being the mare who was supposed to discourage this kind of thing. “You won’t think so if it’s Daisy doing the flogging,” I commented, and instantly their smiles disappeared. I couldn’t blame them. With the constant duty and honor bullshit, a little flank spank was one of the few reliable means of recreation, and a lot of the security mares got really... enthusiastic about it. I stepped under the spray and immediately jerked. “Cold!”

I would note this as a gratuitous bit of lesbian pony fanservice made particularly annoying because it shows up so early, but it does provide some characterization for Blackjack. So she's a figure of authority, but she's willing to cut ponies some slack.

Instantly, my ruby eyes popped wide at her cute flank and graceful tail.

I would applaud that the story didn't frog march Blackjack to the nearest mirror to describe her, but this is still an awkward place to start mentioning her ruby eyes.

What? I was security! I was allowed to break the rules when pursuing a fine flank!

So...that's less "reasonable authority figure" and more "corrupt cop".

“Right. You got me,” I said as I held up the hoofcuffs. “So?”

“Aww… don’t know the spell yourself? I thought all the security unicorns did. Marmalade does,” Daisy taunted as she stepped over me, making her way towards the atrium stairs. The vapid unicorn gave a slack grin and nodded, and then both of them had a good laugh as they trotted away. I rose, glaring at their backs before hobbling after the pair.

So any security mare should be able remove the magical shackles of any other security mare. That's going to pose problems when they have to actually restrain rogue security mares now wouldn't it? Well, security mares besides Blackjack I suppose.

Huge support pillars had been sculpted in a parody of tree trunks, and the support beams had been fashioned to resemble branches.

Why would they be a parody? Are they making fun of trees? The word may be close, but it's not the right fit.

Still, despite being made out of recycled poo water, the chips were pretty tasty!

There's a lot of exclamation points in this story.

“Which means you’re intelligent. Skilled! That you possess far more competence than a lowly security pony like myself!” I said as she hesitated. I almost had her convinced! “I’ll pay you in oral sex!” I blurted. Textbook turned the shade of a spoiled apple, and Rivets covered half her face as she chuckled.

There's a line between roguish charm and being sleazy. Blackjack doesn't have to worry about that line though, she's pretty deep in the sleazy side.

“I had no idea. I didn’t think you were into mares,” Rivets said with a smile, munching on her grass chips.

Lady, Blackjack runs around chasing mares and just loudly sexually propositioned a mare in a public place. She's not exactly very subtle. You've either only known her very very recently or you're dense enough to make lead seem like Styrofoam.

I glared down at the cuffs on my hooves, growled, and then bit the conjured metal.

Interesting. I thought that it was a magical construct like a green lantern thing. Are they creating solid matter out of nowhere or are they just summoning it from somewhere else?

“Do overmares ever?” Rivets countered with a snort. “Her mother was bad enough; I sure didn’t shed any tears when she died last year. But that little tyrant is going to…” and she drew herself up short, realizing that even though I was the most irresponsible mare in security, I was in security. She coughed, then gave a little shrug. “I’m just concerned about the stable. That’s all.”

And that was the story of my life. No matter how friendly I was, I was security. She wasn’t. I enforced the Overmare’s rules and punished those who didn’t. I sighed, my ears drooping a little. “Well, see you at the card game tonight?”

I like this Rivets. She's also doing a lot of complaining, which appears to be the usual pastime for the stable besides fucking, but she's making the best of what she has instead of constantly screwing up and pitying herself.

Everypony in Stable 99 had a job assigned to them from birth. Maintenance ponies maintained, security ponies secured, and baker ponies baked. The forty or so males in Stable 99 were no different: they were breeding equipment. From birth, they had their segregated quarters in medical and were signed out by mares for reproductive purposes and, more frequently, recreational. There were twenty unicorns and twenty earth ponies on the breeding rotation. Once a male reached… how old was it? Twelve? Fifteen? -- they were put into breeding. Of course, to keep the number in rotation the same, that meant that a male had to be taken out of breeding and retired.

So they're walking sperm banks. You know, just because you've been living underground doesn't mean you have to turn into drow.

Wait, scratch that. Let me talk about the dark elves from the Forgotten Realms for a moment.

There are underlying reasons why the drow are so matriarchal and treat their males like shit. True to the spider motif they have, drow females are bigger, stronger, and possess a greater divine affinity than drow males. The principal drow deity, Lolth the spider goddess, also actively encourages constant domination and in-fighting among them to "weed out the weak". So the females have the means and incentive to dominate the males. Even then drow males were allowed to be fighters and wizards. They were considered expendable, yes, likely to be sacrificed to summon demons or whatever, but they weren't locked away and reduced to mobile cocks.

Why would they do this to their stallions? Population control? That would be better served by controlling the number of mares, not stallions. Why aren't they allowed to do anything else besides fuck? It's not hard for a stallion to be a repairpony and then fuck a bunch of mares when he's free. I don't think this was touched upon in the original. Little Pip was just sort of nonchalant about how "overmare" was they way things were. I doubt it will be touched upon here, the way things are going so far. It's just...there.

Yeah, except nopony ever asked me if I wanted them. She started for the exit. “Hey…” I called after her, and when she looked back, I sat down and raised my cuffed hooves. “You mind, Mom?”

That's actually a nice reveal. Smooth transition and the information was hidden temporarily without making it seem that it was being hidden. The only giveaway was that Blackjack thought a lot about how her mom was a security mare.

Technically, every unicorn, much less every security unicorn, was supposed to be able to do a whole slew of spells that I couldn’t.

You mentioned that earlier. You're starting to repeat yourself, Blackjack. If you're gonna whine, I'd appreciate fresher ones.

Okay, this was my chance! I grinned. “So… I’ve got ten minutes before I have to start my rounds. Can I swing by your quarters on my way for that flank spank?” I gave her my best ‘I promise you’ll enjoy it’ look.

She snorted, looked at me, and gave a flat ‘in your dreams’ “No.” Then she trotted away from me as I sat down hard, watching her go.

“Oh come on! I was being sympathetic! Nice! Midnight?” But she didn’t look back as she disappeared down towards the residential quarters with the rest of the mares. “Ugh, what does a mare have to do to get a little service in this place?!” I sighed, head hanging. “So unfair…”

That's...really disgusting. She's trying so hard to be sympathetic whenever she's complaining about being security, but it's hard to care for her when she's being so aggressively, stalkerishly, lewd. She reminds me of Princess Fatora from El Hazard, and that reminds me of how this scene would be perceived as twice as loathsome if she was a stallion.

“She’s the Overmare. It’s her job to keep us all safe,” I replied, almost by rote as my red eyes looked from one to the next. Only Rivets met my gaze.

Again with the self-description. My brown eyes can't take it.

I slowly slipped back from the table, leaving my bits behind.

Damn, she got so awkward that she left her va-- oh, wait she meant money.

She just looked at me with wary eyes. “Just... getting some stuff for Rivets.” Her soft voice was surprisingly deep for such a puny pony.


‘P-21: Breeder. Retire from service immediately,’ flashed on the screen of her… no… his PipBuck. “You’re the new P-21,” I muttered, staring down at his saddlebags and clothing.

Oh, okay. So their females are bigger than their males? Guess they're more drow-like than I first thought. Are they going to start worshiping spiders next?

As we struggled, though, I still had one advantage she didn’t. My horn flashed white as I wielded the baton in my magical grip. And one more thing I could do with telekinesis: with another thought, I triggered my PipBuck’s ‘Stable-Tec Assisted Targeting System’. The S.A.T.S. was a magical spell that momentarily slowed time almost to a stop and let me line up my attacks perfectly. Each attack cost some spell charge that had to build back up over time, but right now I wasn’t going to waste any of it. Three baton strikes to the head. The spell even gave me the probability of each strike landing!

Ah...S.A.T.S.

You know, I fucking hate that spell. They should re-name it "Mookslayer", because that's what it does. It's like Inuyasha's Wind Scar, a move designed to wipe out all the faceless enemies, but always proves not enough for the boss monsters so there has to be a prolonged fight. The game had V.A.T.S. so you can turn the real-time shooter into a turn-based shooter in case you didn't have the reflexes or the patience to keep things moving at real-time, and probably so Bethesda can point at a feature and say "See? It's not just Oblivion with guns!" It wasn't a time-stop spell.

“Forget it. You can handle the little cock. I’ll report you’re bringing him in,” Daisy said sourly as she touched her bleeding nose and then glared at me. “One day, I’m going to have your fucking head on a stick, Blackjack. Promise you that.”

I'll note that Daisy didn't use S.A.T.S in return to sneak in some hits before moving on. I'm reminded of a spell, oh sorry, power, in the old D&D psionics handbook called "Temporal Velocity". It also functioned as a sort of time-stop spell. However, after the speeded up moment, the caster was severely disoriented for a few rounds as a result of being in a faster timeframe. S.A.T.S. doesn't seem to have any sort of drawback save for a brief cooldown.

Then I spotted the olive filly watching us from down the hall.

You know her name. Or is it another olive filly? Damn, now I'm getting confused.

“Oh…” Males in 99 lived in medical and were identified on their breeding roster by their designations. P for earth ponies, U for unicorns. Don’t ask me why the former wasn’t E; I’d never gotten a straight answer.

Who is she talking to? Me? I thought I was looking at the world through her eyes and she was narrating to herself. Am I some kind of passenger in her head?

“Nope,” I replied and took out the syringe of Med-X painkiller. I yanked the cap off the needle, jammed it into his leg, and squeezed the soft plastic tube to force the drugs into his system.

Guess she studied in the Dexter Morgan school for giving shots; able to find a blood vessel instantly.

There was a pop from his knee like a gunshot as he screamed, the limb jerking back into place.

I had a bone reset once. It was more of a wet, dull pop. It certainly didn't sound like a deafening explosion of gunpowder. Now, maybe it hurt like a gunshot, but Blackjack's not in the position to feel that hurt.

“Well… I suppose. He helped me with Scotch, after all,” she replied in far softer and warmer tones than ‘suppose’.

I like this. It has a subtlety to it and touches on the interesting question how fatherhood works in a stable. I'm thinking drow again (I keep going back to them because of this fic) and how matron mothers had a lot of patrons so the children of a drow noble house weren't sure who their fathers were. Normally, it wasn't important, then there's the whole deal with Driz'zt and Zaknafein, does Blackjack ever wonder about her father? Bah, it's not going to be touched upon further in this fic is it?

I wished I could just tell my mom things, but there was always a line. She would be my mom until a point was reached, and from then on she was firmly ‘Head of Security’. And that always came first.

You keep repeating this thought. This has to be like what? The third or fourth time to mention that your mom is head security first before mom?

He stood, then lifted his tail, carefully pulled out a bobby pin, and extracted a small screwdriver from his… body cavity.

This mare who loudly propositioned another mare in a public for oral sex, can't say the word "ass"...to herself.

Stable-Tec! Going outside! This was huge! Epic! A real game changer! With Stable-Tec here, all the Overmare and Rivets’s ponyshit didn’t matter. Maybe I wouldn’t have to be security anymore. Maybe…

Ugh...did she really just say "epic"? Is she going to talk in l337 next?

What was that noise and why was my mane crawling?

Your mane is crawling because it's been possessed by the spirit of foreshadowing.

The whites of her eyes were stained a solid piss yellow.

This is going to be an easy way to differentiate good and evil characters, isn't it? If they're described as resembling excrement in any way, they're bad news.

Her reeking brown teeth curled in a grin of pure glee.

Must be some new breed of super mutant with teeth-curling powers.

You!” rasped a pony from the door, a unicorn floating a rusty razor blade in front of her. I found something better… I hoped… in the rusty twenty gauge shotgun dropped by the earth pony I’d just killed. I didn’t even need to use the mouthgrip. I slipped into S.A.T.S. as she charged, the blade slashing wildly in front of her, the world dropping to a crawl. In the spell, I could target her legs, body, or…

The Mookslayer, of course.

There was an easy way to tell which way the raiders had come: they’d left a trail of blood from residential door to residential door all the way down the hall.

And she's correctly identified the enemy type despite this being her first time encountering them. That's some lucky guess there.

Inside one room, I saw a red bar moving towards the door, and I slipped into S.A.T.S. the second her head was in view. My glowing baton crushed her windpipe in a single lucky hit. Her yellow eyes bulged and rolled as she dropped a .38 revolver from her mouth; hey, I might have slept through two thirds of my classes and Textbook’s lectures, but I paid attention to my firearms training! My backswing smashed her temple, sending her slumping against the door frame.

And the Mookslayer does it again.

“Yummy!” Then she lunged, grabbing my leg and trying to bite through my security barding!

You crushed her windpipe, she should be dead from asphyxiation, but this could be an interesting touch of unreliable narrator. Blackjack only thought she crushed the raider's windpipe, but had not actually hit with enough force.

I suddenly became very aware of one part of him that wasn’t mechanical. A part that I was fairly sure was going to be inside me in a few seconds. I became aware of a whimper and looked over at a prone white shape. The Overmare. One of the filthy, yellow-eyed ponies was pinning her down and raping her, her mouth and flanks bloody. The idea was utterly alien to me, and I did all I could to tear my eyes away and hide my horror. Mares might occasionally force another mare against her will, a class A crime, but for a stallion to do that to a mare was… focus, Blackjack!

That's really gross, and excessive. This is the first chapter and we've got a stallion's head being blown off with a shotgun, cannibalism and self-mutilation, a pony exploding into chunks of gore, rape...where do you go from here when you've set the bar so high and so early?

A Stable 99 stallion? How?

I actually like this bit if it's what I think it is. It's a consequence of a bad system coming back to bite them in the ass. It's potty-mouthed raider Driz'zt and potty-mouthed raider Zaknafein coming back to Menzoberranzan to give their house what for.

She flushed furiously. “Go buck yourself, Blackjack.”

You've already used the word "fuck". No reason to do this now.

“Sodomized,” P-21 said simply. I was really glad that Daisy didn’t have a shotgun at that moment. She did, however, launch herself at P-21 with the clear intention of smashing him into blue jelly. I was barely able to stop her. What, was he trying to get killed?

“How’d you know?” Marmalade asked curiously, but he just gave her a flat look and went back to work. “Rude.”

This is a needlessly disgusting detail that goes nowhere. Better off cut is what I say.

Luck saved me from a messy splat as bones churned beneath my hooves.

You know, you can only use that term for so many times before I start replacing "luck" with "the author".

Footnote: Level Up.
New Perk: Rapid Reload - All your weapon reloads are 25% faster than normal.

This wasn't clever when Kkat did it, and it's not clever now. If you want your character to develop new skills, show them developing these skills, like Blackjack practicing with various guns and how to reload them with maximum efficiency. Kind of similar to those bootcamp training montages when cadets disassembled their guns and reassembled them. Only this one is for reloading.

Good God, what if DannyJ did this for To Keep the Fire Burning?

ENEMY DEFEATED Firelink acquired 5000 souls, then allocated it to his STR and END

Well, that's the end of the first chapter. It's...really excessive. More so than the original I believe. This seems to be a pattern now for game crossovers. Chapter 1 is particularly long because the author wants the tutorial section of the game completed in the first chapter. It's not completely unbearable, I might come back to check on the next chapter, but so far it hasn't been so much as gripping as it has been vile.

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Chapter 1 is particularly long because the author rewrote it entirely in order to retroactively foreshadow some stuff that otherwise came out of nowhere later on. I liked the original version better. :derpytongue2:

I think the main thing was P-21? Originally there was no explanation of what that meant (because all the characters knew) and so their interactions were *really weird* (because the author knew).

Good God, what if DannyJ did this for To Keep the Fire Burning?

ENEMY DEFEATED Firelink acquired 5000 souls, then allocated it to his STR and END

I am insulted that you would even think this. Firelink is not that competent. He spends it all on resistance and humanity.

Project Horizons. A tale of references to Portal, TF2, anime, followed by a gang rape scene. Keep away.

Then again, I'll take the liberty of copy/pasting someone else's comment here, which contains a theory that might help explain some of the things in this fic:

Yesterday, I tried to read it again. My first attempt (long before completion) ended after more or less 16 chapters. This time, I didn't even manage to get past 1/5 of the first chapter.

Reason? Dear God, Blackjack is so annoyingly dumb. I mean, I wrote similar characters before, hell, I still write Vinyl as sex-obsessed imbecile. However, since my Vinyl is a side character, I can make chapters less focused on her whenever she gets annoying. Meanwhile, due to 1st person perspective, we have to deal with Blackjack and her idiocy 24/7. Not to mention that, given her initial interactions with others in her stable, her idiocy seems to be rather a rule than an exception (it's kinda like "20 minutes with the jerks" – y'know, like a beginning of a horror movie when you have a doubtful pleasure to meet all those dumb teens who are gonna get slaughtered in later part of the movie).

Well, there's actually fridge brillance behind that: Blackjack's stable always consisted of 460 mares and 40 stallions... Add 200 years of inevitable incest and it's all clear...

(source)

Thanks for this. This saves me from having to read it myself.

Your thought process and reactions are similar to my own whenever I read something. That explains why I had little to complain about when reading Breaking Point.

If I can ever figure out the reading order of all of your side stories, I plan to do a full reread of everything. I'm curious as to what you have changed or corrected in your own work over the years.

Yeah, looking back on it PH wasn't very good...

3377598 All the side stories came out late Reckoning, so you should read them after you finish it. Apart from the Spike story that was split off from Reckoning, because Visiden felt it worked better on its own.

There is a lot more wrong with this story than basically anyone is willing to admit, especially fans who are desperate to shield it from criticism now that it's up on FIM Fic for the masses to comment on.

Since it's hidden behind the mature filter I never turn off, I don't really have to worry though.

Sheesh. I actually started reading this after I finished FO:E, since it was the 'other' big fic in that...genre, I guess. It doesn't compare well to the original fic, where even though things were grim, they weren't excessively so. This fic goes out of its way to mutilate (physically) and viscerate (emotionally) its characters.

Even after reading THAT chapter, if you read on you can figure out which, I kept going. It was tough.

I've only got the two big chapters at the very end left, but I just don't know if I can force myself to read through them now.

While a lot of your points are valid I'd like to argue against a couple of things you noted. The biggest would be your issue with the males being walking sperm banks. While in a normal society that wouldn't make sense at all the fact that they are in a vault/stable suggests how that came about. I don't know how familiar you are with the Fallout games but many of the vaults were used by vault-tech as social experiments you can look at the list of them here if you'd like.

Secondly about Blackjack injecting the med-x. Many pain relievers can be injected into the muscle rather than directly into the vein which requires very little training to do correctly, especially if it's an auto-injector. Think of it like an Epi-pen.

There's something to be said about haters and hate...

Regardless... and I admit, the story has it's flaws, but it's hardly all that bad... well... no... The story itself is a horrible mess. The characters, the situations they are placed in, the very world that they inhabit are completely FUBAR. It's not your baby sister's wasteland, that's for sure. Shit goes down and incredibly bad things happen. BJ is forced to make some truly horrible decisions because there's no real other option.

If you consider FO:E a PG rated film, FO:E - PH is most definitely R rated, with special disclaimers about sex and violence, hyper, insane levels of frankly Tarantino level violence. That's not to say that there aren't plenty of moral options and interesting dynamics later in the story, but they come a bit later... well... at least chapter 6 anyways, initially.

Still, it's entertaining and that's all I hoped to get out of it. So I'm looking forward to finally finishing the series as it's posted here.

3377844
Breaking Point lost over 20,000 words, so I think some of it came from there as well. Either that or a whole lot of fat was trimmed.

3378479 Nope, Breaking Point was all trimmed fat, mostly rewording to be less verbose. Many of the paragraphs with extra small details were cut, some of which I really liked. I haven't reread the entire story in a while so I'm not sure if the overall quality changed much.

I like how pretty much anyone with half a brain and a lick of taste arrives at the same conclusion: that PH is a bloated sack of crap.

Visiden, if you think this was vile, you've got 77 chapters of sliding quality ahead of you. I look forward to seeing further reactions.

Even more telling me not to read PH, I wonder about Heroes...

3377881 Try Murky Number Seven, none of the excessive there for any of the categories.

Except that you will be required to handle very large chapters,
I got a non brony to read and love that story thus strongly recommend it.

Also feels, there are a lot of those. A quite dark story that, but ever so full of unbreakable hope.

3379687 Heroes, Memories (highly recommend), and Horizons are the main fallout stories I've read aside from the original. So far I've really enjoyed Heroes. My biggest complaint with it is the infrequent updates (the last update on Heroes was back in May of this year).

I'm just going to flat out say that I enjoyed Horizons immensely. I suggest going a few more chapters in, Visiden, before making a final decision. If I remember right, and it has been years now since I read those earlier chapters, Horizons drags for a little while at the beginning. The earlier chapters are a bit clunkier compared to later on.

That's really gross, and excessive. This is the first chapter and we've got a stallion's head being blown off with a shotgun, cannibalism and self-mutilation, a pony exploding into chunks of gore, rape

Given your above comment I have to ask what exactly were you expecting here, Visiden? This is a fallout story. This is not a normal adventure story. This is a story taking place in a post apocalyptic world where it is very common for all this stuff you mentioned and more to simply be par the course. I also wonder if you've played any of the games from the series.

Given your above comment I have to ask what exactly were you expecting here, Visiden? This is a fallout story. This is not a normal adventure story. This is a story taking place in a post apocalyptic world where it is very common for all this stuff you mentioned and more to simply be par the course. I also wonder if you've played any of the games from the series.

Some restraint? The same sort of restraint I expect from any dark story? Being a Fallout story is no excuse. Yes, I know that the Fallout world is gory and brutal, but front-loading so much brutality works against the story. It disensitizes the reader and drains the gravity from succeeding instances of brutality.

I played Fallout 3 and Fallout New Vegas (I also played Fallout Tactics, but the fandom apparently doesn't count that) and my favorite part was when a female npc was brutally and graphically raped before my eyes. Oh, wait, that doesn't happen in the games either. There are some implications of it, and the hints give it more weight. The best parts for me was exploring the abandoned vaults, where you only get hints. You piece together what happened, and the horror of it dawns upon you. That's the awesome aspect of Fallout's dark. Watching your Bloody Mess perk do its work is silly, not dark.

I know that I shouldn't be one to talk given the contents of my stories. I'm not saying that PH should tone it down "for the children" or some such thing. I'm saying PH should tone it down to really highlight the dark.

where do you go from here when you've set the bar so high and so early

Oh, you have no idea...

Chalk me up as a defender of Project Horizons. Yes, it has plenty of issues, like the excessive length, and all the references and developments that don't fit tonally with the rest of the story – essentially, Somber is way too enamored with his ideas, and doesn't know how to "kill his darlings", so to speak. However, it is also the most emotionally intense story I can remember reading, and Somber consistently creates some very impressive set pieces.

And yes, it is a very messes up story – Expect mutilation, canibalism, body horror, mental torture, serious considerations of suicide, mass murder, infanticide... and, of course, the infamous scene in chapter 33, for which even Somber found appropriate to add a content warning. However, and here is where I think PH differs from a simple gorefic, it acknowledges the causes and consequences of those things, and use them in order to drive the plot forward, while exploring some interesting situations.

I'd recommend checking out chapter 6 ("Play") if you are unsure whether to continue, as it showcases well what Project Horizons can do well, while being fairly self-contained, not requiring much knowledge of the previous chapters or spoiling anything significant.

Comment posted by oakofmarble deleted Oct 4th, 2015

3381884 if You like emotionally intense? try Background pony. I personally think it's hard to beat in that department.
3379824 See that's why I like your stories so much, Yeah they're dark, but not ALL dark, Your characters have celebrations, and peaceful moments, And developing friendships and relationships without being in constant world ending terror. It makes the impact of those scenes of death feel important. It's why I don't like "Grimdark" Horror stories and movies, Dark can be interesting and fun and add a whole new level of depth to a world, but if it's all there is to a world. After a while it gets boring and repetitive.

3749566 Heh, Background Pony made me decide to avoid reading SS&E fics. All the overblown prose and forced drama really ruined the fic for me, and the ending was incredibly unjustified, in a way that made me question why over 90% of the fic was even there. In fact, that is one of my go-to examples of "dark for dark sake".

3749643 I'm inclined to disagree, I found the ending sadly poetic and most of the story was along the lines of sad more so than dark. There was in fact rather little dark and several really sweet and heartwarming chapters that made what dark there was stand out. Plus I'll admit i like flowery prose. And I guess a lot of the subject matter struck home for me on a personal level.

That said I will say dont let and one of SS&E's fics turn you off his writing as a whole, if you didn't like bg pony you wont like things tavi says but with over 100 fics and counting a LOT of his stories are very drastically different and his style of writing is not always the same from one to the next... Plus I will always recommend the epic that is austraeoh.

I do highly recommend it, even if it does drag a bit sometimes and if Somber is prone to sometimes erratic ideas.
And then there was the whole thing where he'd help me with chapters of my (now nuked) fic, and then I'd see some of my concepts explored in new chapters of PH...

But on the whole, Somber is an absolute sweetheart and a good friend of mine.

I hihly recommend https://www.fimfiction.net/story/931/fallout-equestria-pink-eyes - this story more ligh, funny and sad than original Fo:E and will be cure for any ill in your heart.

3750837 Eh, I get that perspective, and I did find the end fitting (it is pretty much the only way it could have ended). However, it only fits because he built up such a nihilistic, "everybody loses" universe. And, in a sense, that kinda ruined the effect for me, since if losing is the only option, then losing really doesn't mean much. Also, most of her actions didn't actually do anything, and some good 80% of the fic could have been removed without much effect. This made even the stuff that I really enjoyed, like her interactions with the pony in the retirement home or the first chapter, empty in retrospect.

It is pretty exemplary of most of his other fics (I did read a bunch after finishing Background Pony), which have some great stuff that gets lost thanks to a lack of self-editing. I haven't read Australleoh (in my RIL since forever), but from what I heard, the series suffer from that same problem eventually.

3756925 See, as with many stories it boils down to perspective. I saw her making a difference albeit usually a subtle one, the couple that stayed together, A pony's last days not being so lonely, Sure at the end of the day everyone forgot about her influence, even her, but that doesn't mean she had none at all.

Plus I think I related to it in some regard. Being in such a situation would be... Unimaginably lonely, and I know what that's like. Thankfully I sorted myself out without causing the end of the universe or losing all my memories but still.

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