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On the "great" FiM vs Steven Universe "war" · 4:59am Mar 18th, 2015

So yeah...more explosive drama. Yay.

There's a show on Cartoon Network called Steven Universe. It's a series about the titular half-human, half-alien hybrid who lives in a sci-fi temple in a tiny beach town. He's raised by three alien warriors that are actually just space gems with hard light bodies, and who take him on missions to train him to become part of their group, the Crystal Gems. Between adventures, he hangs out with his dad (a failed musician who lives in a van and owns a car wash), his best friend/potential love interest Connie, two teenagers that work at the local donut shop, and his hyper-dimensional pet lion. Over time, the series goes from problem-of-the-day adventures to include a longer story arc revolving about alien invasions, civil war, love and life itself, and Steven growing into a real Crystal Gem.

It's a very solid series, combining simple-but-effective animation design with solid writing and a charming atmosphere and aesthetic that knows what mood to hit with every scene. It has a very Adventure Time feel to it - which makes sense considering Rebecca Sugar, the show's creator, also worked on that series - but honestly pulls off many of the same things better than that series. And unlike a certain Disney show, it can actually have new episodes in a reasonable amount of time.

So yes, the show is good. So good that Calpain of Equestria Daily decided to create another, EqD-style site for it. Unfortunately, this caused nothing but drama and heartache, as the very idea of that loathsome other fandom coming into their turf sent bellyaching fans rallied against him until he finally gave up. That's nothing new.

What is new is that it's the Steven Universe fandom that's stirred up the most shit about it.

What it boils down to is that Steven Universe is popular, but not just because it's a good show. There are a lot of folks who like it because it's a progressive show. I won't go into too many details because I'd probably get it wrong, but here's an article that explains some things in a bit more detail. It's a children's cartoon that's doing a good job of representing groups that really don't get that good of a deal in media at large...so when news came that someone who created a BRONY website was going to create one for this show, people...overreacted, to say the least.

To put it simply, the FiM fandom has a reputation. We've ruined MLP by taking it over and making it all about "creepy adult males." The first things anyone brings up is that we make porn, or that we put FiM with things that shouldn't go with it, or that we're chasing out all the little girls and women the show was made for. The fear was that we were going to do the same thing to Steven Universe. To which I say:

A) There's a ton of porn and inappropriate crossovers already.

B) The show is aimed at a general audience, whereas FiM is open a general audience but targeted towards girls. There's a difference.

C) Gatekeeping your playhouse so that nobody but those you approve can come in is freaking stupid and counterproductive.

Are there a lot of shitty bronies? Of course. Should there be standards on what is acceptable to post in places children can easily see, especially since parents cannot control all their online time in a world where a stapler can probably connect to the Internet? Yes. But there is a definite glass house issue going on with the reaction here. The Steven Universe fandom seems to be more in love with the representation the show provides than the fact that it's a good series. I'm happy that the show's laying some strikes against the shittiness of our society, but that's not why I enjoy watching it. I enjoy watching it because it's a good show. And good shows should be enjoyed by all.

...And for the record, there is nothing wrong with liking Fallout: Equestria. I don't like it myself, but it doesn't make you a bad person.

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I like Fallout Equestria in theory, though I'd have liked it more if it leaned sightly more towards MLP and slightly less towards Fallout. The point of a crossover, I feel, is to try and get a 50-50 blend. But, that's just my personal view, and as you said, ultimately there's nothing wrong with liking it.

I'm not really all that aware of Steven Universe, so I can't really comment on it or its fandom, but I definitely agree with your C point. Gatekeeping isn't good.

I'm fan of Steven Universe too.:pinkiehappy::derpytongue2::moustache: And it's not like MLP was the first kids show to be liked by Adults and have a bunch of porn of it made.

Dang, does that mean I have to turn in my black leather jacket? I though liking Fo:E would make me one of the bad boys.

I've been seeing lots of press about this show on my Twitter feed and was starting to wonder if I should look it up. Not going to bother now.

I had no idea about this crap. and figures, that some folks are fans, and not fans.

It shouldn't matter what we enjoy, but that we are united in liking it. If you are set against that, well, congrats, youre a fan, not a fan.

I have to admit, I haven't seen a single word from SU fans about them being angry--on the other hand, I've seen loads of people saying "It's not a big deal, stop fighting!" This feels like an issue that grew more out of people's reaction to the issue than anything else.

I think you're digging too deep...

Steven Universe will never be as popular as FiM, and even if it does; it's gonna see considerably less backlash from the world.

So, no need to worry.

It's a very solid series, combining simple-but-effective animation design with solid writing and a charming atmosphere and aesthetic that knows what mood to hit with every scene. It has a very Adventure Time feel to it - which makes sense considering Rebecca Sugar, the show's creator, also worked on that series - but honestly pulls off many of the same things better than that series. And unlike a certain Disney show, it can actually have new episodes in a reasonable amount of time.

Gravity Falls is amazing, but seriously I hate to be patient.

But I digress from the main topic. For that, I have to say it's unfortunate that assholes tend to be the very loudest and that's what people pay attention to.

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True. Honestly I don't see Steven Universe getting a convention of all it's own.

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You know Rebecca Sugar made yaoi porn of Ed, Edd, and Eddy.

The fact that the FiM fandom still has this reputation this strongly even now, as if no other show, or even children's show, has negative elements in it, is extraordinarily depressing.

I pretty much have to agree with everything you had to say on the matter.

A) There's a ton of porn and inappropriate crossovers already.

There's a reason why #34 is the most agreed upon "rule-of-the-internet". Heck it's a fact of humanity that predates the internet. For as long as humans have been creating art, we've been creating porn as well. For the overwhelming majority of human history this was even considered perfectly normal;, it's just that so much of our modern culture is still saddled with some very repressive baggage leftover from Victorian era, doubly so in countries like America where a sizable number of Puritan sects where involved in founding it. Honestly it's kind of sad to see any group supposedly exposing on the impotence of inclusive sexuality while simultaneous shaming porn and those who enjoy it.

Likewise though, if it isn't already, crossovers should probably also get a number on the rules lists. Few peoples are ever fans of only one thing, and the diversity of what any given individual can like knows no limits. So it's sort of inevitable that given due time someone will eventually crossover any two or more things with each other no matter how little sense it makes. The fact that bronies have created so many crossovers in such a short time, mostly only speaks to just how wildly diverse a group we are in the first place.

Should there be standards on what is acceptable to post in places children can easily see, especially since parents cannot control all their online time in a world where a stapler can probably connect to the Internet? Yes.

Personally I find that a much trickier issue. Yes people should be considerate and respectful, but parents also need to actually take responsibility for raising their children. Blaming any form of mass media for corruption of "today's" youth has never been valid. It wasn't true of movies, comicbooks, or television, and it's no more true of video games or the internet. The problem is parents who don't supervise there kids and instead just treat such mass media outlets as "free" babysitting.

Of course no one can monitor their children 24/7, nor should they be expected to. What any parent should be expected to do, however, is actually take the time to talk and spend time with their children on a regular basis, to discuss and even partake in hobbies and interests. Parents should be the primary role models for their own children by virtue of actually being around to act the part, not complain after the fact about what their children were doing unsupervised.

I'm happy that the show's laying some strikes against the shittiness of our society, but that's not why I enjoy watching it. I enjoy watching it because it's a good show. And good shows should be enjoyed by all.

This, so very, very much this. To many social advocate get far too hung up on inclusive media representation. Yes inclusivity is important, but nothing is good is ever accomplished by forcing the issue. Doing so might increase visibility, but it does nothing to make anyone more accepting of such things, and can in fact all to often cause the opposite. To highlight whether exclusively or inclusively is still a form of segregation either way.

Steven Universe is not a good show for representing a diversity of ethnicities, lifestyles, and other assorted such. Rather, it's a great show because it's smartly written by people who actually care about the story they are telling. Moreover though, because while it incorporates socially progressive elements it never seems to feel the need to spotlight them or get preachy about it. There are know are know Very Special Episodes acting as thinly veiled soapboxes, rather everything that is presented is done so at face value and without commentary -- which is in turn the most powerful commentary of all as it turns what might otherwise be a controversial hot topic into just a NORMAL part of everyday life.

...or at least that's my observation from the admittedly small number of episodes I've seen. Which has nothing to do with the quality of the show or my opinions there of, but is rather just because I really don't watch much TV at all now days.


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was starting to wonder if I should look it up. Not going to bother now.

THat's entirely the wrong attitude to take. If you do that you're only making the exact same mistake that overzealous fans who attacked Calpain's site solely on the grounds of him also being associated with the brony fandom.

Judge the show by its own merits, not your perception of it's fans.


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The brony reputation can be a little depressing, but at the same time a bit thrilling as well. It just goes to show how big an impact we've made. Yes, that impact hasn't been all good, and yes, it hurts that detractors focus so much on worst aspects of our fandom (which are no worse than any other), but the fact that people are still talking nearly five years latter only goes to show what a huge difference bronies have made.

At this point even if our fandom died --doubtful given just how self-sustaining it's become-- but even if it did, I think we've more than secured a permanent legacy in modern media culture. Love us or hate us, no one can ignore us.

2887754 Oh, I agree with you on that. FO:E is a good story, I feel, but... a bit bogged down by reader-punches involve stuff that is spoilery to those whom haven't read it.

The recursive fan-fiction spin-offs... some go more light-hearted, which I enjoy immensely, and some... well, darker than black. A shame "Misfits" was cancelled/discontinued.

I am a massive fan of Steven Universe, personally. Steven is basically, well, just a kid. But he's not an annoying kid. Takes after his mother a lot... and it's funny because a friend of mine, before a particular episode aired confirming it, guessed correctly what became of his mother whom 'gave up her existence'.

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Well, the fuckers got what they wanted, because a lot of people are going to stay far away from their fandom now. :B

2887754 I read the epilogue of Fallout: Equestria. Well-written, but that's all I'm gonna read. The entire concept is so fucking depressing it has a giant "NOPE" sign hanging over it.

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Okay, so...I pretty much agree with most of what you say here.

However...

it's just that so much of our modern culture is still saddled with some very repressive baggage leftover from Victorian era, doubly so in countries like America where a sizable number of Puritan sects where involved in founding it.

The history aficionado in me wants me to clarify, that the Puritans predated the Victorian era by a century or two. (Or three. They were a 16th-17th century religious group. The Victorian era is 19th century.)

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Sorry. I wasn't trying indicate which order things occurred in. It's was just an accident of my own rambling as a segued from one topic to another.

There's a show on Cartoon Network called Steven Universe.

Fan since Fredinator promoted her first episodes.
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But seriously, this whole drama felt more like when you're popping bubble wrap, only when you pop this one stubborn bubble it doesn't even make a noise and you just sort of stop popping for a second. Wonder why it didn't make a satisfying *POP*. Before immediately proceeding to bigger and poppier things.

Their 'attacks' are rather shallow and beyond ignorant. And it's mostly just tumblrites of some 12 year old with an achne breakout who probably got told her fanfic was bad, and thus, took to the mantle of becoming the biggest joke on the internet by swearing to defend SU from all things impure and brony and all other penis carrying individuals.

Seriously, those people are beyond lame and retarded. Most probably never knew of SU before it hit Cartoon Network. And who said women got kicked out of MLP? For the whole first season most said they hated it and how much superior G1 and G2 was to it. :rainbowlaugh: But did we shun girls away? No. Sure, some pimple lord out there would anonymously harass a girl or whatever, but they sure as hell weren't the majority.


I love the accusation that all the women are being chased out of FiM. A lot of them are the ones writing porn or making hilariously crude joke comics like Tralalayla. xD

There was one lovely comment by someone who said "Now I'll have to monitor my kids on the internet" because men are making porn or something. The comment was hilarious because it shows JUST HOW NEGLIGENT THE PARENT IS AND HOW THEY REALLY SHOULDN'T BRING THEIR SPAWNS INTO OUR WORLD.

If you AREN'T monitoring your how your children use the internet to begin with, (mines didn't and look where I'm at now? :P) then you should have DSS on your ass if you're seriously going to keep safe search off. Most every site actually requires people to mark their content NSFW. I have safe search on and I virtually never run into any explicit pony stuff.

People are just really ignorant. And loud. Very loud.

SU only had a few episodes that stood out for me, and that was Lapis Lazuli.
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The episode his dad helps to fix something before they blew up, sounds generic and sappy, yes it was but it was awesome generic and sappy.

Seth has always been pretty laid back with the site. If PK wants to go do his own thing, and sure he was part of a comic that hurt no one but people seem to take all too serious because that some tumblrite squaked up a storm about, then whatever. I have no interest in anything EqD spinoff. The anime site was nice, it gets some decent stuff from time to time, but it's the last place on the internet I go for anime related news. You didn't see anime people shit over that because it came from EqD people like Alex and such. They are branching out.

I give the site a month before the drama just ups and dies.

2888276 Pretty much this. Since people will just avoid those freaks and find normal people to hang with that isn't tumblr. lol

All this when the show was struggling on Cartoon Network no less. Though still got renewed apparently for another 52 eps. If things get too toxic though, and seeing how Cartoon Network is run, the show can get pulled at any time.

Ratings > Drama.

If people want their SU they best start subbing to cable more. :P

Reminds me of the anita sarkeesian bullshit from '13. Just stay away from it. The same has haloened with the Resident Evil fandom with the "old guard" going out of their way to ruin the experience for anyone new who's interested on has a different opinion.

Hey, I love Fallout Equestria and I think I am a pretty nice guy.

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The thing is, people always focus on the bad things aboyut us. They never see us do stuff like support one another, help each other, and welcome so many varieties of people. When it comes to porn...well, I foun something fun from a tumblr called TenelViper

Meanwhile, have fun ever trying to look up Team Fortress 2 (a game that’s very popular with pre-adolescent boys, despite its M rating) and trying to avoid the mountains of gay porn drawn by women, as well as the naked character models available for download not only for use in the game, but for Gmod and Source Filmmaker, which include both erect and non-erect versions. Same goes for Left 4 Dead 2, Final Fantasy VII…need I even go further?

Or go look up Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, or Transformers. And let’s not forget Harry Potter, or Tintin, The Lorax, or Regular Show. I have two young nephews who adore Regular Show, yet I remain unconcerned that they’re going to have it “ruined” for them by Morby shippers and “gumhoes”. Or here’s a big one—Avengers. If you’ve been on tumblr since the movie came out, and have somehow managed to avoid seeing Loki-related porn, I commend you.

Yeah, its kind of like that. Heck, in terms of fanfic, good luck trying to find something that is awesome as Savior, FOE, or Tears of Gaia (Sorry, just started to live read it and have been loving every minute!)

I have mentioned this beore in the ADP forum and on my own blog, but it bears repeating. Like Author said, yeah, there are bad bronies out there. IT would be naivie of us all to think not. But, it has been my experience that the good far far outweighs the bad. I think Luminary put it best when she wrote on my post

We're no more dramatic than any other fandom, and we're certaintly no more hateful. It just matters how we handle ourselves.

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Most probably never knew of SU before it hit Cartoon Network. And who said women got kicked out of MLP? For the whole first season most said they hated it and how much superior G1 and G2 was to it. :rainbowlaugh: But did we shun girls away? No. Sure, some pimple lord out there would anonymously harass a girl or whatever, but they sure as hell weren't the majority.

You know, the fun part? Tiarawhy is a chick and kkat is a dudette. So yeah... The ones who harass are usually a very tiny minority. The rest of us, well...Last I checked, Bookish is pretty danged loved. I those guys want to see women really being kicked out an dharassed, I have a few fandoms here and there that would have words

You know, all of these people who complain about the porn...

I wonder how they react to us moonies and DBZ fans.

That's different, Sailor moon and DBZ are anime

Do you know who the target audience are for stuff like that?

Um...

9-12 Japanese school children.

2888203 I'd like to think that the difference is that I'm not out on the internet attacking other fans in mass and gatekeeping my fandom.

I don't really have the time to cram another show to watch, and why should I when their fandom is apparently full of terrible people? I'd rather just catch up on Gravity Falls, or more likely, just read more fics here that I'm behind on.

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How you spend your own time is no one's concern except your own, however...

and why should I when their fandom is apparently full of terrible people?

That's still exactly the same kind misguided bigotry that leads to the misrepresentation of bronies that caused this whole mess, and nothing is solved by just turning those accusation back around. More to the point, even if it were true, that still wouldn't be anything to hold against the show itself -- you could still watch it and just not participate in the fandom.

2888586 There's still the difference that my bigotry isn't leading me to attack people and drive them away. If they want to come be fans of FIM, they can feel free.

The way things have worked out, I would want to participate in the fandom if I enjoyed the show, and it has become apparent that I would have to hide liking this show were I to do so. Forgive me for not wanting to even bother.

There's nothing wrong with liking Fallout Equestria. Highly agreed—to each their own. There IS however a lot wrong with a supposedly family-friendly site like EQD regularily posting collections of FOE side story collections, some of which are goreporn at their best. I've asked Seth about this and his answer was "It's popular so we have to".

One of the problems about Calpain is that he's the shit-magnet for EQD. He's been involved in a lot of drama surround the brony community, starting from Molestia (which I still miss a lot! One of the only funny Tumblrs I followed).

This Steven Universe seems interesting. I'll give it a look-see and do something that 99% of the people on the internet seem to be incapable of: Try and form my own opinion of it! Same way I did with FiM even! I'll try to keep an open mind to an experience that I am not sure will give me anything, but might be fun.

Anyone who says EQD is supposed to be family friendly, well... No it's not, it never has been.

Is it just me, or is the word "progressive" starting to leave a bad taste in my mouth?

It kind of implies that modern values are only being represented in modern fiction, which isn't true.

As anyone who's read a Kurt Vonnegut novel, or a To Kill a Mockingbird, or the Chinese folk tale of the fox and the scholar, or hell, anyone who's watched Courage the Cowardly Dog, "progressive" values have been around for much longer than we give them credit for.

Steven Universe is, from what I've been able to see of it, a pretty good show. It might even top Adventure Time in my book over time, but for now it certainly ranks higher than MLP.

It's strange to think that MLP has been more famous for its fandom's shenanigans than the show itself, and that's probably because the show was never all that good.

We just have to deal with a few things...

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On the sliding scale of Family Friendly -vs- NSFW, it definitely still falls closer to the former than the latter. Sure it's not so banally sanitized that small child should be left to browse it entirely unsupervised, but It's certainly nothing so offensive that kids need to be "protected" from it lest it corrupt there innocent little minds.

For the record, I don't watch Steven Universe. I don't really care about it, and probably won't watch the show even if people say it's good. What got me involved in MLP was actually the fandom itself. The fact that the show was good is just a bonus. The Brony fandom has a lot of very creative people in it, who produce some amazing works. And creativity is what grabs my attention.

But if the SU fandom is suddenly putting up barricades and becoming so elitist, I'm honestly glad they want to keep people out. Means that their fandom will end up shriveling up and dieing sooner rather than later. I know that sounds mean, but if it fosters people like that, I can honestly say we shouldn't want anything to do with them.

But what really does annoy me about this is the whole elitist mindset the SU fandom seems to have. Saying that the Brony fandom has 'destroyed' MLP, and that they don't want it to happen to their show. This is really a case of the pot calling the kettle black. I have not yet seen any indication of MLP being 'destroyed'. They like to claim that the show is now catering to the adult fans rather than the original target audience. Well, besides the fact that I haven't really seen any of that yet, any form of entertainment media is going to lean towards keeping it's largest audience happy. SU isn't somehow immune to this. If a show doesn't keep it's largest audience happy, it doesn't last very long. Whether that means changing the show or keeping it the same depends on the audience in question.

And a show's success isn't measured in static viewers. It's measured in growth. When a show is seen to have ratings that continue to rise, it's considered to be doing good. If the ratings stay the same, it's considered to be stagnating, and the studio behind it starts to question if it's worth spending money on. They don't want an investment that brings back the same returns. They want those returns to grow. And the only way for those returns to grow is for the viewer base to grow as well. What the SU fans are effectively doing by trying to keep people out in the name of protecting their imagined 'purity', is strangling the very show they claim to want to 'protect'.

The biggest stink with all this, is the idea the SU fans seem to have that bronies are 'bad'. That there's something wrong with the brony fandom, and ignore their own 'unwanted' elements. As has already been said, there is already porn and cross-over fan works of SU. The only difference is the amount. Bronies are a LARGE fandom, compared to the fans of SU. This naturally means they're more visible to the rest of the world, and that means more of the 'mature' side of the fandom gets exposed. Simply for the fact that a bigger fandom has a larger 'mature' side. But like most people, the SU fans are focusing on the sensationalist news, assuming that the mature side of the fandom is the dominant one. And that simply isn't the case. A good way to demonstrate this is to search for the 'safe' and 'explicit' tags on Derpibooru and compare the number of images. Right now there are 80817 explicit images on Derpibooru. Now, that's a lot, by anyone's standards. But compare it to the 590810 safe images, and you realize that the Brony fandom is nowhere near as over run with porn as the SU fans seem to think it is. I'm sure that a similar search of an SU fan image database (is there even is one) would return similar results, only with smaller numbers.

Is the SU fandom wants to strangle themselves out so they can feel self-righteous while their show lasts, that's fine with me. No one will miss them in the long run.

2888519 TL;DR: Ha! Yeah, they are awesome, at least the most known. And Sailor Moon was my fav as a child. Mercury and Jupiter were worthy role models. xD


Yes, Bookish is pretty awesone. And Kkat is even writing again after all this time. ^^ I wasn't 100% on it but I thought Dawn Fade was a girl too. Author of Pinkie Watches Paint Dry was a girl. We have tons of female authors like Tittysparkles, Charmer, Tennisgirl, Seehkoh(I probably butchered that name lol), and many many more.

Crazy part? They all ranged from 16 and 30's. And not the oldest ladies in the fandom by far. And I have nothing but respect for each and every one of them. I don't judge someone based on their gender. Hell, it's the internet. It's SUPPOSED to close the gaps between races and gender descrimination. Hence why so many stay and prefer anonymity. But if they chose to share their race or gender then that should be their choice and is totally their right to do so, just don't go treating them any differently then you would any dude on the site.

Shame EqD wiped their boards. There were some historic arguments on those blog comments. xD


Far as anime goes? Having been a One Piece fan since the first season on Japanese TV, I can say that Japan knows well that adults are very much just kids whose exterior shells have grown and matured to a point they may not be able to do as many kid things as they enjoyed doing, per se, but their favorite shows and friends who matured with them and managed to retain their passions despite a world that demands unyielding blind servitude, get to enjoy that higher level of awesome that comes from being older teens/adults of anime.

The cosplaying, Conventions, meeting your favorite character's VA, buying awesome figures and basically having a fun social hobby with tons of universes each can share in and share with others. Japan markets to all those with a youthful heart. And fans respect and abide by the rules they setup. It's awesome.

Anime, traditionally, became a huge boon after the war. It helped bolster the imagination of many. Inspired many to reach for the skies. Check out how ridiculously detailed those 80's and 90's animes were with their cities and mechas. xD

There has always been a massive market for adult porn down there that makes the US porn industry look like a wet noodle. And yet, even with the insane demographic of anime that produced even loli and shota works, Japan still allows kids to walk the streets unsupervised.

Why? Because despite how much porn Japan produces, Japan is still a relatively safe place with laws they trust in, and proves that what you do in the privacy of your own home, be it creating porn or watching/reading porn, that humans, despite how media likes to blame violent and sexual crimes on video games and japanimation for all the crimes we have, they prove that we can tell the difference between fantasy and reality. That humans aren't instinctively evil and would never dare willingly harm another human being even if they had the chance to get away with it.

Japan has laws they actually enforce unlike the police force in America where the law literally states a police officer is NOT obliged to help anyone even if they are in the middle of being mugged. It's in the law. You can be having your child taken from you by some angry ex who could have been stopped right there and then, only for the officer to ignore you and find the guy later kills the child and himself afterward. 'Murica!

So just because someone writes or reads FiM porn, doesn't mean they're about to go break into a farm to bang ponies. Like, seriously, who makes those correlations? Sheltered, repressed, and or sexually shamed people that's who. The ones who got taught their whole lives that anyone with a penis is out to use you, say anything to you to get into your pants and leave you without a care.

I will read pretty much any and all things as I've always liked sampling different genres, though I've always preferred the SL and Adventure types, animes like Monster and Hell Girl and the Fate/Night fill that "Make me think" "Scare me" or "Make me sad" desire. Yes, making one's self cry actually helps make you feel better, it's an emotion that shouldn't be ignored because if all we had was happiness in our lives we'd never be able to grasp the sadness that others go through.


Show of hands. How many here read Princess Molestia fanfic or the tumblr comic and got inspired to go out and rape some random girls for shits and giggles?

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No one? Really? No one with a penis wants to shove their dicks into random holes that may be unwashed and may or may not carry some STDs? Who doesn't love STDs??? Surely Princess Molestia taught you all better then that! She hasn't caught an STD in the comic or fanfic, so why not go out and rape someone?

What? You just don't want to? You still think it's horrible to force yourself on someone against their will?
You actually have standards and don't just drop your pants with anything carrying a set of tits?
Huh, imagine that? Men. With standards. Next thing you'll tell me is that there are girls that DO drop their pants at anything with a phallic shape between their legs and that all girls don't fart flowers and rainbows.



Funny thing about that tumblrite rager: The way they keep shouting about how parents have to actually monitor what their kids do on the internet? Holy shit, way to tell the world you're all irresponsible neglectful parents that just tosses an entertainment device to distract them for most the day to keep from socializing with your kids. GG TUMBLRITES! XD

I've ranted long enough. But yeah, as whose had lasting friendships with girls for most of my life.

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Hey want to talk about girly and kiddie anime? Journey through Fairyland and Unico were my introductions to anime and I still love both. Heck, Magic Knight Rayearth is still a classic in my eyes.

And not the oldest ladies in the fandom by far.

My mom is on this site and is 50, I recently went to an anime con where I saw an couple in their 40s-50s (I think) that were talking to this one man about why the show is awesome...and I joined in of course, using Twilight Sparkle as a cause.

There has always been a massive market for adult porn down there that makes the US porn industry look like a wet noodle. And yet, even with the insane demographic of anime that produced even loli and shota works, Japan still allows kids to walk the streets unsupervised.

Hey,some recent and good works of anime were made by guys who made hentai doujinshi

doesn't mean they're about to go break into a farm to bang ponies

Hey! I only did that twice! and that was only because the Dog and the sheep were busy, and my sister won't return my calls.

How many here read Princess Molestia fanfic or the tumblr comic and got inspired to go out and rape some random girls for shits and giggles?

You know the irony of those thoughts?

If you read my blogs, then you would see that being a brony, has made me do sex rps LESS! And, scary of all...

Ever since becomng a brony, I have written women like actual characters with real personalities and treat them as something other than love interest/thing to save.

InsertAuthorHere is responsible for the cancer that is killing this fandom. Also 'progressive' is a codeword for anti-white and anti-straight.

I've seen a couple of clips from Steven Universe and it's surprisingly ok. The animation is surprisingly good. For a strange reason the show reminds me of those 80's animes like Saint Seiya(Knights of the Zodiac) and Astro Boy(Ok technically it was from the 50's) in that it has simplicity yet it's purposely serialized. In fact the whole show really has a japanese anime vibe to it in a good way which is pretty rare to find these days. And I have to admit I kind of like Steven. He's very sweet, kind and very likable. I was expecting him to be loud, screechy and obnoxious like Spongebob but no he actually acts like a kid.
Also I was honestly amazed at how genuine the show is with it's emotions. I kind of wish Star Wars Rebels was like that.

Will I watch the rest of the show? Not sure because I barely have time to watch tv but I honestly liked what I saw(even though there are some strange questionable things in the show). So kudos to Rebbeca Sugar for making a well executed original concept and for being successful on CN. :pinkiehappy:

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