How To Accuse Someone Of Breaking The Rules · 10:53pm May 26th, 2013
How To Accuse Someone Of Breaking The Rules
1. First, make sure that they've actually broken the rules, instead of taking the word of someone else who may have said the wrong thing by mistake. You might try talking to the so called rule breaker yourself first instead of listening to rumors and not getting the whole story.
2. Note that the stories the author revoked were republished by other mods several days later. Mods who did NOT bump them up on the site home page, so no rules were actually broken. See this rule:
Revoking a submission makes a story invisible on the site again. It will need to be submitted again and go through moderation before it is visible on the site again.
Note that it does NOT say you're not allowed to resubmit a story. Only that it would have to go through moderation again.
3. Note also how the person who not only accused the author of breaking the rules, also mocked a teenager in their blog post, coming dangerously close to breaking this rule:
Do not make blog posts specifically attacking other people.
Said post narrowly escaped breaking this rule simply by not naming names, even though many people knew exactly who they were talking about.
4. The one rule the author did break was a rule she was not aware of. Now that she is aware of the rule, she will not be breaking it again.
Am I missing something here? I thought you were the one that wanted to drop this? Seems a little counter-intuitive.
Alternate Titles: "How to Focus on the Wrong Incident as Proof of your Innocence"
"How to Play the Victim and Antagonize All Who Look At You Funny."
Is that a hole in your mind, or - Look, if you want to drop this, why keep bringing it up? And why focus on the wrong thing entirely?
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Title for yours: "How I Learned to Stop Making Sense and Blindly Follow"
1106589 Title for you: How to Ignore the Facts Just Because Someone is Your Friend.
How To Completely Go Against Your Own Argument
Challenge for ANYONE: Try to create a two-sided post about what's happened so far. And, sorry unicorn, it must stay accurate!
1106579 and 1106600 I was until someone harassed me because of that other person's post. This blog post is the last I have to say about it.
I was accused of breaking rules that I did not break, that's all there is to it.
1106606 Ahaha, NO. She attacked first. She caused everything by refusing any criticism.
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Title: How to Completely Go Against Your Own Argument
1106609 That's a lie. I only refused RUDE criticism. Also when people continue bothering you when you ask them not to, that's harassment, which is against the rules.
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I know that you're angry, but this blog post is just adding more fuel to the fire for all of the haters. I'm not attacking you when I say this, but by posting this blog you're being no better than D was and just continuing the cycle of hate. Wanderer has a lot more blind and vicious followers on his side as well. I implore you to take this blog post down before things get worse. If you still need to vent I'll PM you. You're better than this.
1106615 Actually I think this blog is very tactful. I didn't name any names, something you just did. I am only defending myself in that I did not break numerous rules like people said I did and pointing out how the other said person came close to breaking a rule themselves. I have spoken only the truth. Not everyone will agree with me but that's fine. As long as I and my friends know the truth that's what matters.
The amount of alt titles is TOO DAMN HIGH!
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You didn't name names, but it's still very clear who you're talking about. You shouldn't need to defend yourself like this. It's just mimicking those who wronged. It makes both sides seem like the bad guy here. I'm only trying to he'll and stop all of the flaming :/
1106614 Sure. RUDE ONLY. (cough)WANDERER D, A WHOLE CHAPTER OF A FIC(cough)
Oh, I'm sorry, did I say something wrong?
1106623 Yes just like the other person made it very clear who they were talking about. I'll remove this blog post if he removes his.
1106630 And everything before that? It doesn't matter about any previous circumstances?
1106654 Uh... No, I meant the circumstances leading up to anything related to this. You just made a quite un-proportionate argument
1106667 NOT THE SHIT WITH WANDERER! What happened BEFORE THAT! Why some of us are acting like this! You're disregarding a LOT of important info!
“How to Completely Miss the Point”
1. Look at a previous story of yours, and realize that it has been included in a group for riffing candidates.
2. Threaten the group owner immediately with reporting, doing away with all form of diplomatic civility.
3. Refuse to counter any legitimate arguments, instead using variants of “Stop talking to me!”
4. Bitch to the mods when the one-sided argument fails to fall in your favor.
5. If the mods actually give you your way and make said riffing group take it down, make a post boasting about the achievement on your blog.
6. Throw another fit when your misguided and narcissistic viewpoints are again countered.
7. Delete the blog post when you inevitably lose the argument again, then create a new post bitching about the people you lost the argument with, thus creating a repeating cycle.
8. Do this a second time, because the first time went so well.
9. By this point, you may notice that a friend of the people you are arguing with has riffed your story. Go be a bitch to him as well.
10. Frantically block and report everyone who refuses to kiss your ass and say you’re not even SLIGHTLY at fault for your attitude. Go “on hiatus” for a few hours, temporarily deleting all of your stories.
11. If the riffer of your story offers to make peace and destroy all evidence of his vindictive actions, comply. This will have the side-effect of removing conflict with those he associates with as well.
12. Ban every single one of them from your new “peaceful” group, even when they try to be nice. This will have the side-effect of making every single one of those people pissed at you once again.
13. At this point, the people who are on your side may claim that your attitude is unsavory, volatile and possibly even self-destructive. Cuss them out too until they can only kiss your ass from then on, because what the flying fuck do they know?
14. As tensions FINALLY seem to die down ever so slightly, write and post a new story crossing over with an obscure book series. Make sure this series involves disturbing elements that translate horribly to cartoon ponies.
15. Get indignant when your poorly-fleshed out, poorly-written dreck gets more downvotes than upvotes by the general reading populace.
16. Go on a comment-deleting spree, which will attract the attention of legitimate FIMFiction reviewers and earn you even more downvotes, both from those who have read and hated the story and from those who despise the way you’re behaving.
17. Treat every incoming comment from these people, even those that give constructive criticism and debate the logistics of the story, and flames and attacks on your person, and block the whole lot of them.
18. A wild moderator appears to resolve the tension. Delete the chapter to wipe all those nasty comments that are so obviously haters and so obviously wrong. Now it’s like he was never there!
19. What’s this? That action was against site rules? Claim that ignorance to the rule meant that you didn’t have to follow it until you DID know. Repeatedly claim this as your main line of defense.
20. Have a delayed reaction to the fact that this action has earned your craptastic story a revocation. Return to the shelter of your group and act like everything is your former go-to shield’s fault and that now HE’S PICKING ON YOU TOO!
21. Watch with satisfaction as one of your hand-picked sycophants makes a factually-inaccurate slander video that states that this wouldn’t even be the first time you’ve broken this rule, and watch in disappointment as the mod’s discovery makes said sycophant piss his pants and remove it.
22. When the mod makes a factually-accurate (but not incriminating) blog post detailing the situation, defend yourself with one of your alts, making no effort to hide your identity as your bullshit behavior gives you away. Watch as alt account gets deleted by mods.
23. Delete your revoked story. Make your own blog post in a similar style to the mod’s, minus much of the factual accuracy. Imitation, after all, is the sincerest form of flattery.
24. Get pissed when some clever sumbitch makes their own list to counter your counter. Delete and block on sight!
25. Realize that the comment has been saved offsite, possibly to be included in someone else’s blog post. Forever.
26. This is the variable step. At this point, you do whatever your pretty teenage heart desires.
27. Bide your time until the administrative staff of FIMFiction catches wind.
28. Bitch and moan when the Admins all tell you to get over yourself, and just give those “evildoers” a slap on the wrist.
29. Use Alts to attack the blogs written by those you hate, until they’re all deleted. Sit in silent fury as you do your best not to get your Main deleted.
30. Fail. Start from scratch. Rinse and repeat.
1106706 No, I am saying that we should consider those when referring to this case as well. I should probably be more clear.
1106705 That whole post is either a lie or exaggerated, so I'm not going to bother responding to it.
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Oh... Oh, what?
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1106733 I don't care if you or anyone else believes me or not. I've had my say.
I have a group of wonderful friends and I won't allow people like you to spoil it for me.
That's all I have to say to people like you. Good bye now.
1106744 Goodbye indeed, Ma'am. Sorry it had to come to this. You'll see what I mean.
1106744 Ironic. According to the Pony Personality Test, you and I are both Twilight Sparkle. A shame we are so very different. We may have gotten along well under different circumstances.
Is this still going? I thought this whole deal was done and buried by now.
Well, I can say I have learned my lesson here. I shall not ban/delete/revoke without posting proof of breaking the rules first.
So, congrats! You're banned!
Why? Well, to show that I learned from your lesson here, here's the rule you're breaking: mass-downvoting. Reason? Revenge.
Proof 1: A rather confusing list of all stories, of the same author, you and your alt _Pinkie_Pie_ mass downvoted within seconds of each other:
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Proof 2: YOUR list of recent downvotes of stories, with time stamps, to compare the above abuse.
i.imgur.com/sE8Cuoj.png
And, finally, proof 3: Alt account _Pinkie_Pie_'s (which happens to have the exact IP address as yours in case you want to deny it.) recent downvotes, of the same stories, with time stamps for comparison.
i.imgur.com/RZsxvf8.png
You know, while it's true that there's no rule about revoking and resubmitting, the allowance is for you to edit your work. Not to erase the chapters and re-post the exact same thing in order to delete the comments.
In that sense you are abusing the system that is provided for you to post stories, because that does end up bumping your work.
Also, other than giving you some advice and doing my job, I was already over this whole thing. When you mass-downvoted my stories in your petty personal vendetta, you broke another rule that results in perma-ban. That is for everyone that does that. Everyone.
And yes, I might sound like an asshole for doing this, but those ARE the rules. I have mentioned this before. I have hunted down people that mass-down-vote stories in the front page because it is the most petty type of 'revenge' you can do. It doesn't matter who you are, those that do it and get caught get banned.
Now, before your 'friends' decide to do videos or follow your footsteps, let me remind you all about something: my job here is to make sure the rules, as they are intended, are followed and to defuse situations. I have asked people to stop harassing others and they do, mostly because they respect me for enforcing the rules fairly.
If you don't get the fact that I have to do my job, or that I don't necessarily feel good sometimes about banning someone, but have to do it, it's your problem, but I have to, just as I have to pass stories that are utter crap, simply because they follow the rules.
So don't come crying to me about being unfair when you have personally gone out of your way to break every single rule you can find, and then have the temerity to post this blog. IF you want to make a case, in the Staff page you will find the emails of all mods and admins. You can write them for clarification, help, or even to make a case against me if you want.
1106957 Whait. Wut r you doin. Whiet. Stahp
1107035 She got banned already, don't you see? It was a permaban, so it can't be changed. Stop trying to get her out of it. It's useless.
1107053 Ok. I will. Y'know what, I'll be counting every day of this. Aaand you know she won't feel bad for that.
1107060 Now you have telepathic powers, great.
1107065 I have a hard time believing that she's sorry. Oh well.
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Knighty would have likely given Wanderer the go-ahead on the perma-ban. because the mods/admins have a group chat, and bans and the like are generally discussed in this chat, so complaining to knighty will only make him laugh at you. If unicorn wants to accept responsibility for her actions, then she should stop trying to make Wanderer out as abusive, and accept her ban. She fucked up, and she has to face the consequences of said fuck up. Regardless, having her friends pester a mod, making said mod out as abusive and in the wrong, and refusing to let the problem go is not going to help her case. But even then, the chances of her getting unbanned period is very, very slim, and she won't be able to make a new account and just lay low either, because her IP Address was banned.
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It's not been listed (yet) on the FAQ page, but it should be pretty self explanatory that downvoting all of a person's stories within a short enough period of time that it is impossible that they were capable of reading said stories in (In this case, all the stories were downvoted in five minutes, as shown in the picture) is a case of blatant abuse of the voting system. The vote system is designed for readers to upvote stories they liked, and downvote stories they didn't enjoy. It is not for them to blanket downvote because they disagree with an action taken by the author (in which case he was completely in the clear, but that's beside the point). It's disrespectful, inconsiderate, and fails to help the author improve from the situation. While the riffing of her stories portrayed them in a more negative light, at least they provided some form of criticism, something she could use to know why the story was disliked.
If someone dislikes your story, you want to know why, right? Now imagine if you found out that the dislike is beacuse that person doesn't like you, and you wouldn't very much enjoy it would you? No, you wouldn't. It's one of those unwritten rules, because it shouldn't have to be written.
As I see it, the rule wasn't explicitly stated because the mods/admins didn't think it needed to be stated, because it should be common sense. But really, at the core, this was just an attack on a site mod, who enforced a rule in a way she didn't like. It's like slapping a police officer who gave you a speeding ticket: It's gonna end poorly for you. You simply don't attack someone who can ban you. PERIOD. If you do, then don't complain when they ban you, because honestly, you were asking for it.
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What would Wanderer's forgiveness give you? She's not getting unbanned, so it'd make literally no difference.
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~Mission Log~
Sixteen days. No sign of goodwill. Morale is low. So is the nacho supply.
1139454 I actually forgot about this blog. get dem nachos. I order it.
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Got 'em. I wonder if she still gets email notifications?
I bet it's been so quiet because she's blocked just about everybody who knew her.
1145470 That's so goddamn greasy. WELL. They're nachos, fuck everything.
Nah, she hasn't blocked anyone, she's possibly even receiving those notifications still.
1145526 Well, the people she blocked are still blocked. I had to use YET ANOTHER alt account to post here.
I mean that, other than her erstwhile supporters, there wouldn't be much in the way of chat on here, as anyone else often ended up blocked.
Here, have some napkins.
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1107053 So how's that working out for ya?
This incident right here.
2030220 Good times, huh?
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It's here, digging through all the garbage of bygone drama and forgotten users, that you find the best examples of how bro the mods really are.
1106744 Girl you messed up big time!!
This whole clusterfuck made me lol. Im an asshole. XD